After all of the tears and recriminations — and a likely loss in New Hampshire — I suspect Sen. Hillary Clinton’s campaign will soldier on… but what do they do with the wave generated by Sen. Barack Obama?
They should work on turning Obama back from a Movement to a man. Clinton is already making a start on arguing that Obama has not been a leader, but is picking the wrong issues, when there are better ones at hand. If Clinton gets there, Obama will likely point to some of his bipartisan accomplishments in the Illinois state legislature. Clinton should then respond that he has no such record of bipartisan coalition-building in the US Senate.
The Clinton campaign will likely engage in “trench warfare,” focusing on states with closed primaries that keep out independents. About half of the states voting on Feb. 5th have closed primaries, including states where she still has a sizable lead. Obama and Clinton ran about even in Iowa among actual Democrats; the question will be how many Dems catch full-blown Obama fee-vah by February. (The real story of the Iowa caucuses is the total turnout; first-timers made up more than two-thirds of the people who supported Obama, while the percentages for the youth vote and independent voters only increased by a couple of points.)
The Clinton campaign will likely work the delegate strategy laid out at RCP by Jay Cost. In fact, the one thing Cost misses is that – despite threats made by the DNC against them — Michigan and Florida will be seated at the DNC convention, which is a significant boon to Clinton’s delegate count. (Did you think I was just joking about Michigan?)
This strategy, however, depends at the very least upon Clinton keeping her pledged delegates and superdelegates tightly clutched in her icy grip. There is very little room for error (especially if Edwards threw his support behind Obama). It could be difficult to do if she cannot slow Obama’s momentum.ÂÂ
Moreover, a Clinton nomination secured by back-room deals with pledged delegates and superdelegates might well create a backlash among Obama’s voters — “stolen nomination” is a phrase that comes to mind, even if it would be inaccurate.
MLK Day is like two weeks away, but it’s not going to be like regular I’m thinking.
2004 FLASHBACK
Can you say
Front Runner Howard Dean
its all about patterns
Pay attention to the past and know the future
Howard Dean
Was the 2004 Democratic primaries front-runner for the nomination, performing strongly in most polls and leading the pack in fund-raising.
June 2003
The liberal advocacy website MoveOn held the first ever online Democratic “primary”, which lasted just over 48 hours, with a total of 317,647 votes,
Howard Dean 44%
Dennis Kucinich 24%
John Kerry 16%
Leading up to the Iowa caucuses, Howard Dean was the front-runner, fueled by an official endorsement from Al Gore in December 2003, and bolstered by other key endorsements, such as Bill Bradley and Tom Harkin. Even opponent Carol Moseley Braun endorsed Dean after she dropped out of the race, having been soundly defeated by Dean in the Washington, D.C., primary. Jimmy Carter endorse Dean on the weekend before the Iowa caucuses.
John Kerry got 16% third place – its all about patterns its always like this you have to remember one thing the youth vote dies real fast,
its the old timers that rule election day
they sit back and not say anything
beware of (the silent majority) they always show up on election day
That was more trippy than Trippi.
The larger implication of your post is that it won’t do for Hillary! simply to win based on accounting. As you say, if he has a large number of fervent supporters, but she strong-arms the vote, well there will be hell to pay.
So, it won’t be sufficient for her to win. She has to win in a way that has Obama’s present supporters repudiating him. She has to fling loads and loads of verifiable, non-traceable poo. She has to shellac him in it. Which, I have no doubt, she can and will. Maybe this will be the year the black vote stops moving in lock-step to the orders of the Democrat plantation. It wouldn’t matter to Hillary!. Screw the party, she wants power.
I do love the delicious irony of a Democrat death-match between a white female “incumbent” (she has the experience of change needed to change the changes that need changing), and a black male “new-comer”.
I’m beginning to warm to the idea of a president
CarterObama. I’m buying gold and making sure my license plates are one odd and one even.Actually, that’s not true, I’m just trying to grow a mustache.
The ‘youth vote’ is a mythical animal and any candidate depending on that is doomed, doomed, doomed.
I don’t remember where I heard it, or read it, but I believe the most astute analysis of the Obamaurnaught was that he has become the perfect candidate of voter projection.
His speaches are cast as sermons and are big on soaring rhetoric, but they don’t say anything … so he becomes something different to each supporter and each supporter takes away what he or she wants.
Obama..the “post-partisan”, the one whites can vote for in gratitude because he doesn’t make ’em feel guilty, yadda yadda.
Funny how Obama’s “religiousity” is considered an asset, but is just more of the same poisonous God-talk from Huck or Romney.
Closely listen to some of Obama’s major speeches rather than relying on what others say about him.
You will find that he wants to change the system that favors special interests into one that favors the people. That’s why he’s organizing the first nationwide ground campaign at the grassroots level.
I live in California and have never even seen a statewide ground campaign for a state executive or U.S. senate office.
The campaign has five walk-in offices and is opening the sixth in Orange County with more likely soon. There is a committee for every congressional district in the state.
It’s about organizing the people.
Who cares about Barack..? Or Hillary for that matter… ? My mind is made up.. I’m voting for Fred Thompson cause he looks like Charles Bukowski after a $400 trip to John Edwards’ coiffurista.. Who doesnt love an old drunken unrepentant bum poet..?
Damn.. I wish Herbert Huncke was running.
GASP!!!1!!
In all my 46 years I have NEVAAHHH heard a political candidate talk like that. NEVAAAHHHHH!!!1!!!!eleven!!
Cause what Californians need is more coddling. Safe and warm cause Daddy Obama always tucks you in and tells you a story and then he turns on the nitelite and says sleep tight Tiger. He makes me feel special.
and also hopey
“You will find that he wants to change the system that favors special interests into one that favors the people. That’s why he’s organizing the first nationwide ground campaign at the grassroots level”
He’s got me now! The FIRST grassroots campaign! The FIRST! I’m switching teams! See you all at the Huffington Post!
PKM wrote:
Having not seen PKM around here before, I’m guessing he misunderstood the pint of the post, and may even mistakenly think I’m supporting Hillary, as opposed to hypothetically offering her campaign advice.
That being said, if I was advising HRC’s campaign, I would respond to PKM by saying that Obama is indeed well-organized, as any presidential candidate must be. That’s how you double voter turnout in Iowa.
As for the whole “special interests” trope, here’s what one of Obama’s hometown papers — the Chicago Tribune –reports:
And here’s columnist Lynn Sweet — who has enthused over how good Obama looks in swimwear — in the Chicago Sun-Times:
In January, Obama joined with Sen. Russ Feingold to introduce Lobbying and Ethics Reform Act, which set a standard for strong ethics legislation this Congress. Obama also sponsored an amendment to the Honest Government and Open Leadership Act that required the disclosure of lobbyists that bundle campaign contributions for candidates.
So this is another core Obama issue on which he can be said to be a double-talker. I thank PKM for reminding me to mention it.
That only speaks to getting you elected. Organized people have painfully little impact on the workings of the Executive office. Many people get their say, in the Bush Administration as in any other, but at the end of the day, there’s only one Decider.
OBAMA IS TRANSFORMOGRIFYING POLITICS AS WE KNOW IT !!!!eleventy!!!!!!!!one!!!
How do I know that? Because Paul Kekai Manansala told me, and he must know because he has a blog called obamabarack. That whole internal feedback loop kind of thing.
Paul – He is a lightweight, a fraud, a chameleon. At least he is unrepentant in his Leftist nanny-statism. Lord Obama will watch over you, people, and deliver power to the people, not special interests. He is breaking new ground, and his support continues to grow. Ignore him or mock him at your peril.
Nobody has ever dreamed of running a grassroots campaign anywhere, especially not Cali. He has 6 offices, guys! Fear the offices. Fear them.
It comes in pints?
I’m getting one!
Slart,
If you had my sinuses toady, you would appreciate the seven typos I caught!
Very simply:
What affiliations does he currently possess with foreign Islamic countries? And, for how long have they existed. How close is this man’s affiliations to terrorist ties. He seems to be hiding these elements very well from the people of the United States?
What military record does he possess in defending the United States?
What National Experience does he possess in defending not only the United States but the PEOPLE of the United States?
What U.S. experience does he possess is actually improving the current economy?
If these questions were answered honestly, the people of the United States might very well be EXTREMELY shocked. And, yet, the generation who is supporting the “back-door draft” and the “one-year” shelf life on all products, commodities, and life-sustaining elements seem head strong to elect this very un-qualified, man to a presidential term.
If elected, his “state of the Union” address will be less than the current U.S. expectations!
A tinge of early-onset ODS there but some good questions too.
Above:
Not to mention the the threat to our precious bodily fluids.
My thoughts are that there needs to be a changing of the guards. I mean, lets be realistic about this. How much change can there actually be if the Clinton’s and Bush’s have been in the white house for the past 20 years. It would be the same business as usual if Hillary were in the white house. She is hard and calculating and damn near a man herself in her brutish mannerisms. Her attempt at trying to muster a crying spell can only work on people that are as desperate as she is to believe that her and her team of nut crackers have the ability to change the dire and defeated state that we as Americans find ourselves.I mean if you really want to know the truth about it all, she was the president while her husband was in office. Obama represents a visual and mental change to everyone in the world. His song sheds hope and magnifies the hypocrisies and double talk that has filled the mouths of the other candidates. It is more than obvious now that the songs of the others are currently jumping on the bandwagon of his already documented slogan. It is time to change the look of American Politics as a whole,and allow a true fearless leader direct American to a higher consciousness and way of life. And what better way to do it than to embrace a completely new regiment???
There goes lunch.
“It is time to change the look of American Politics as a whole,and allow a true fearless leader direct American to a higher consciousness and way of life. And what better way to do it than to embrace a completely new regiment???”
Bright colored jumpsuits with ascots?
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I don’t really look all that good in ascots. Or orange for that matter.
Somehow, I have missed all the song-singing. I was under the impression that this was not a musical.
Obama is a fraud, full-stop. The economy, opportunity and security – he can’t deliver any of these because he can’t see beyond his own origins and personal life. He is a PLACEBO PEDDLAR of the cheapest kind on badly needed internal social, economic and political changes. He is an EVANGILICAL in secular clothing. He is a DINOSAUR about the rest of the world and a cowboy other-country-basher a la GWB. No man is an island and the USA and US society will change vastly for the better only if they are led by a man (or woman) who holds a such a world-view. At 46, Obama is already the epitome of the ignorant status-quo packed in left-over Christmas wrapping.
I will NOT be your toady, Karl!
I’ll help you out Karl:
What do you do with a canditate like Oba-ma?
For any issue can you pin him down?
How do you find a word that means Oba-ma?
Agentforchange, Magic Negro, brown!
That’s just a 2-minute penalty, right?
Ha ha ha ha ha
oh, my God
ha ha ha ha ha
*settles down*
thanks for the laugh
I dunno … that directing to a higher consciousness and way of life sounds neat! Apparently we’ll be ending the war on drugs …
Obama is the image of the future of American culture and politics. He touches the whites, the Muslims, the browns from South of the Border whom he favors most and the blacks. HE touches each group without being identified as ‘in’ that group.
He typifies the ideational construct of the future….
AMERICA has outgrown the old guard. The world is an oyster now..with no room for grit or grind. It is no longer ‘us’ vs ‘them’ and we have it all. America was brought to her knees by men witout a country. Men with no airforce and no navy and no military organization, but men willing enough to die.
To avoid war and tribal conflicts and revolutions and civil wars etc. etc. America must recognize “other” cultures as ligitimate and fellow pilgrims on this planet. No part of this planet is more than an arms length away now. What happens in Timbuctoo vibrates in the US of A instantly. What matters to some fly- speck size state is broadcast by the alphabet soup group (abc,cbs,nbc,msnbc etc. etc. etc. ad infinitim ad nausea) and served immediately in the sacrosanct areas of each family in the US of A almost as it happens. SO THAT…..when violence breaks out anywhere in the globe it happens in the homes of the families of the US of A.
As John Donne said, I am involved with mankind. America is on the dawn of a cultural revolution. Before the old guard can just fade away..the new cultural construct pushes it out of the way as with CLINTONism and croneyism….vs. Obamaism. Obama is the image of the future.
AND AS for youth.. the youth that voted for Obama are not young youth. THEY are stable second generation Univ. graduates who have soaked their heads in world affairs and come out ready for this new image. Obama is in touch with the world..and that is what thinking Americans feel we need now…to sit with the world and tolerate and get along with everyone..so as to avoid another 9/11. Obama is the go-between, or mediator between the old image of white America and the world that has been brought home to America via war, television and 9/11.
And who was the catalyst that sparked this
movement…men (of the same physical image as Obama) willing enough to die.
The youth of America see themselves as having outgrown the option of war. War is for the immature and naive tribes of the past who thought that a war could end war.
This new option is embedded in the image of Obama whose appeal is in the fact that he is not exactly white,not exactly black, not exactly Muslim, not exactly an extremist, not exactly a politician in his basic projection but a go-between that can be accepted by all the world and all the many factions in the USA, where over 100 languages are spoken.
AS the Los Angeles Times opined nearly 50 years ago: America is now so diverse in its population, the question now is: CAN ONE MAN BE PRESIDENT OF ALL THE PEOPLE.
Obama’s image projects a shadow of hope that he just might be the man to do it better than any of the others, especially the Clinton’s.
Obama does not provoke the ideologies of any group. He is the image of the future of BROWN America.
This is such a marvelous collection of abject nothingness that I felt it deserved to be blockquoted, bolded, and italicized, for posterity. That may have been Obama himself, as it was all soaring rhetoric that really say not one damned thing, and has an empty suit hiding behind it.
He is not “qualified” to be my county tax assessor, and there are people out there that want him over the IRS?
Y’know, in any real analysis I know nothing whatever about Obama. But from reading the comments about him in several different venues, he ought to change his name to “Hermann” (as in Rorschach).
Regards,
Ric
I want it made clear that Rev. Bufkin and I are not a comedy team. That was just a coincidence.
You know, a recession is coming to get yooooouuuu! Everything’s cheap, cheap, cheap. Agent Orange’s watchword is CHANGE and everybody’s going for it, cheap, cheap, cheap, and your CHOICE is to buy it from Hilary, John (one or both?), Mitt, etcetera, etcetera. Not to forget the WMD POT GW BUSH (CHANGE the constitution and give him a third term) and the KINGKONG KETTLE OB-AMA, aka PLACEBO PEDDLAR, EMASCULATED EVANGILICAL, DOUBLE DINOSAUR. Somebody here mentioned the “dire and defeated state that we as Amercicans find ourselves”. What???
AND AS for youth.. the youth that voted for Obama are not young youth. THEY are stable second generation Univ. graduates who have soaked their heads in world affairs and come out ready for this new image.
They’ve soaked their heads in world affairs? What is it about Obama nuts. We’ve got songs … and head soaking and embracing regiments …
I see a direct parallel between one’s candidate choice and goobltygook doublespeak.
alppuccino,
By George, I think he’s got it!
“They’ve soaked their heads in world affairs? What is it about Obama nuts. We’ve got songs … and head soaking and embracing regiments …”
I think the clue is here:
“…the youth that voted for Obama are not young youth…”
There is something very sad about old youths.
Every time I read something that empty of meaning I feel sad.
By George! Somebody’s swearing by George. Give him a third term, why not? By then Ob-Ama will be 50 and an old youth.
“The youth of America see themselves as having outgrown the option of war. War is for the immature and naive tribes of the past who thought that a war could end war.”
Uh huh.
But right on, B Moe. There is something sad about old youths. Otherwise known as: liberal baby boomers.
Or Perpetual Adolescents, if you prefer.
What’s with the USA? For so many citizens of The Leader Of The World and The Evangilical Empire (uh, uh, not the Evil Empire), it’s not OK with a mormon but ok with a baptist. For God’s sake, leave God out of it.
For a CHANGE, I’ll comment on Hilary instead of tired, old Ob-ama. She’s plastic and synthetic but at least she’s got a soul. According to her, Putin’s not got a soul. Just for saying this, I’ll be voting for her. She won’t be wasting time trying to save Putin’s soul before or after she’s nuked him.
Hey! HEY!! Knock off the singing already or I’ll be forced to soak your heads on world affairs!!
Don’t make me call the regiment!!! You’ll end up awfully old before you’re young!
Must. Cleanse. Brain.
The youths are fired up! Ready to go! I wonder what they are smoking nowadays! Obama reminds me of old bill clintonite back in 1992…blows out hot air without inhaling nada!!!
BJTexas, you seem to prefer soaking (other people’s heads) to croaking. Knock off the soaking or I’ll call the fire brigade.
Who are all these interesting new voices singing new songs and rocking to a different beat? I am inspired and ready for change. A new direction. I am ready to be led by the nose to a promised land… and tucked in at night. After saying my prayers.
And no smart-ass comments from McGehee or happyfeet. Don’t bring me down! Don’t bring me down!
If there are old youths there must be young oldsters? Could they be the same group of voters? Do they evoke equal sadness? If any group should respond to Obama’s message of hope, it is old people. Surely they have given up on faith. Hope, in my mind is close to wish. I have wished for many things and have found that Santa has granted most of them. Among the people I know, both youthful old people and old youthful ones, no one recalls having their wishes granted when it comes to politicians. Hope for a Clinton/Obama team?
I am aware that he has no military service, he has however worked with low income and underpriviledged families and in high risk neighborhoods in Chicago. If you do not think that that has not put him at risk, I would definitely disagree. He was also astute enough to vote against going to Iraq. I think he we had had a better plan he might have reconsidered, but under the circumstances I don’t think he believed that we had explored all of our options. An experienced leader considered loss of life before they put troops in harms way. The fact that he never enlisted in a branch of the military is not a reason to believe he is not a loyal American. I think we should be interested in comments from people in IL and in Chicago and I have heard a few negative remarks, but I have also heard quite a few positive comments. In this day of electronic informations if there is necessary information it will surface and if it is trash talk we will be able to smell it.
Evangelical. Peddler. Hillary.
By reading the above, I can see bigotry is alive and well.
I now believe it IS time for change. You go B.O.
i cant believe people will vote for a man who’s middle name is our enemy and last name of a bomb
Secret
and he’s not even american
Hey BJTEXAS DO YOU WANT A MAN NAME USANE OBAMA AS YOUR PRESIDENT ISN’T IT BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE A BENEDICT AS A POPE
Wake up Americans! Don’t choose a PRESINDENT just because he said: “I want to change!†Everyone wants to change. With his poor background and experience, CAN HE MAKE THE CHANGE??????? NO!!!!!!!
Back-door draft? I told to knock it off with the chili dogs.
Or is this a sly attempt to win over the Gleens to Obama’s camp?
jdm:
Now if the song-singing is The Animals, count me in. If it’s ELO, not so much. Okay, so maybe ELO is a guilty pleasure, but you can’t expect me to own up here.
Slart, thanks for the corrections. BTW, don’t you think peddLAR sounds more guttural, evangILICAL more biblical and HiLARY more hilarious?
Oh, and whose job was it to entertain all these guests with the balloon animals? I can’t do it because of the arthritis.
Kathryn France:
Indeed.
Holy crap… who left the doors to the asylum open?
Wake up America, Afro-American history IS American history and you are seeing history in the making. From the Boston Massacre (Crispus Attucks) to salvaging the design for Washington, D.C. (Benjamin Banneker) to winning the first Persian Gulf War (Gen. Colin Powell) blacks have always been there for America. So, it should come as no surprise, that someone like Obama comes in center stage to save America form its own sick self.
After what America has dished out to black Americans, America should count itself blessed to have a black American willing to stick out his neck (to be sure, he receives death threats) to unify this country and make it great after years of divisive politics, erosion of civil liberties and lassie fair government oversight.
The very nature of politics is to find common ground, and Obama has America’s ear. And this, after years of relinquishing our liberties and sacrificing our sons and daughters in a war to appease the blood thirsty hawks of the Bush and Cheney administration, while their contractor cronies rake in millions.
Wake up America, it’s time for a change.
Americans have a Right To Vote!What Does It Take To Get American’s Fired Up? Please Vote! Make America A Better Place!
Karl, actually I was going with the Beatles… but the Aminals will do nicely – and I’ll eep-kap um-may on-ay at-thay other-ay oup-gray).
I’m pretty sure Obama has something planned for people with arthritis – or balloon animals, I can’t remember which.
McGehee & Dewclaw,
We at PW of course welcome all of the fine visitors from CBSNews.
America is not a better place with B.O. but with Secret. There, I’ve made my contribution for change and I feel tingly.
Oh and I don’t do balloon animals.
Enter Oprah…..She threw the $$$$$$$$ party for Obama, got all the idiotic white women to follow her like a guru, and now supports TWO black men. The fact that Obama is ahead of Clinton shows that Oprah’s arm of $$$$$$$$$ has a LLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOONNNNG reach.
Personally, Edwards is the only canidiate, Dem or Rep that I would feel safe having in the white house. Get a grip America….voting for Obama is an OBAMANATION…..
Um, you first…
that tingle means it’s working BJ
Damn… that was “Don’t Let Me Down” by the Beatles. I got so nervous with all these new faces, I panicked. And I remember now that Obama has a plan to create a Dept of Balloon Animals. And Arthritis.
Well, Barry does have nice teeth with excellent canine formation. I’ll give him that.
Barack Obama = This generation’s Jimmy Carter. And I don’t mean it in the “He’s a kind, sweet guy” sense. No, I mean it in the “He’s going to screw everything up with Iran, send gas prices higher than ever, and probably has warm, fuzzy feelings for Hezbollah and Hugo Chavez” sense. Listen to his speeches – he says NOTHING. “Change to hope! Hope to change!” An Obama presidency will be a complete train wreck.
from 1992-2000 we never had it so good. Obama runs on change and ride the wave. College attendees wake up. You will experience a major change and it will not be to your benefit. Think about where Corporate White America will be if Obama gets in. Have you thought about how it will be to ” start at the bottom of the ladder”. I personally don’t care cause I am retired, but you “young” people need to see thru this cloudy “WAVE” as there may be a Bull Shark swimming below this “WAVE”
Uh…what “liberties” have you relinquished, spanky?
Wait, don’t bother. The Song Remains the Same.
Hillary is getting spanked so bad today. It’s like she’s being ground into the mud and trampled on. How embarrassing to be her. People are just totally unimpressed with what she has to offer.
Does Hillary know about this thread? Her people should be able to whip up something embarrassing.
Maybe I guess at this point the polite thing to do is just not comment about it. It’s so odd to think that it was not long ago at all when the Clinton name had a certain cachet, if a controversial one. This is just sad.
If I am like most Americans and I think I am, we are fed up with the status quo and want something different. In times like that we need a leader who can be a cheer leader and the closest to that is Mr. Obama. Most of the people voting for him most likely are getting those vibes.
It’s a sad day for America if this empty suit called Obama can deceive white AMERICANS into this morass. I am an African and i can’t tell you enough how angry a lot of Africans are about this. We know what will happen to your beautiful country if this cheat is elected president of this great nation. Stop deluding yourselves with this empty ‘change’ thing. Yes, there will be ‘change’, like the slums of Kenya.
I think I like this thread. I’m gonna eat some mushrooms and read it again. Then I think I’ll go vote.
Ah, but then there’s the cold slap of reality. Frankly, change is alright, but I prefer folding money.
I think Obama will do so well in New Hampshire and that many, if not most, of Hillary!’s prominent black supporters will shift over to him. After that, it’ll be a field day for anti-Obama poo-flinging.
This might destroy Obama’s chances, but I don’t think it’ll lift Hillary!. What she doesn’t understand is the the country is definitely over her. She’s just not likeable, what with all her grim Democrat ways, and she’s just not trustworthy. Who’s the third-ranking Democrat again? He might just be in the running.
Silk Pony versus Hair Helmet. I see it now.
Obama working the slums? The USA doesn’t need a mother Teresa, it needs a WORLD-VIEW based on wanting to know and knowing about the rest of the world.
It needs to stop supporting dictators (latest Kibaki of Kenya), nurturing tyrants while preaching democracy. It must step down from its self-acclaimed high moral ground, while dictating to, interfering with and destroying the lives of millions outside its shores for its machiavellian self-interests.
If we have no interest in the neighborhood (read the WORLD) we live in, our motives and actions are those of a frog in the well. Americans live in their own world and their world is America. Generally, there is a huge chasm between Americans who have lived or worked abroad and those who have not. Many see Obama thru the American glasses they’ve been wearing all their lives. The frightening thing is that Obama, despite having lived in Indonesia, is a DINOSAUR in his world-view.
Pay attention to what the papers report Obama as saying about other countries, on trade, jobs, economics, politics (that he has not refuted as being misquoted), not just about domestic issues. America cannot have two souls, one for itself and one for the world. America cannot see itself with one eye, and the world with the other. If both eyes refuse to see the world and try to see only its own face, America still need the world as its mirror. America needs a President who sees the whole neighborhood as a community, that is more than just knowledge or CIA intelligence, and Obama is NOT the man. His call for change is from an ostritch with its head in the sand. He has hoodwinked America’s need for change because he can’t see beyond himself and America, so how can he lead America’s pre-eminent role in the world community, that is essential to change and well-being inside the USA?
Sorry to Obama’s avid supporters but he’s a CYNICAL GENUINE FRAUD behind the surface earnestness. Great leaders who bring real change do not have to learn about the world at school but educate themselves throughout their lives from an interest in the world that springs from both the heart and the intellect. BEWARE OF THE MEDICINE MAN WHO PLAYS ON THE SYMPTOMS OF AMERICA’S ILLNESS AND NOT ITS CAUSES.
Kathryn France,
WITH HIS MIND!!!!!, right? Because the Illinois State Senate didn’t vote on going into Iraq, astutely or otherwise.
from 1992-2000 we never had it so good. Obama runs on change and ride the wave. College attendees wake up. You will experience a major change and it will not be to your benefit. Think about where Corporate White America will be if Obama gets in. Have you thought about how it will be to †start at the bottom of the ladderâ€Â. I personally don’t care cause I am retired, but you “young†people need to see thru this cloudy “WAVE†as there may be a Bull Shark swimming below this “WAVEâ€Â
You see, that is what these racist on this thread are afraid of. They are afraid that their skin color will not give them an automatic foot up anymore. One day they will have to truly compete with everyone on an even playing field rather than just against other White men. It is my guess that most of the racist posters are doing a horrible job competing against other smart educated White men for paying position. God forbid some minorities catch a break. How sad.
I must correct myself: …destroying the lives of millions outside its shores for the Machiavellian interests of ITS RULING LORDS AND BARONS. As a citizen of the “richest” country in the world, do you or the bank owns your house? What did your sons, brothers and fathers, daughters, sisters or mothers die in Iraq and all over the world for, to pay your mortgage, your health insurance, your college education?
How long can you survive without a job, how much cash do you have? Apart from belonging to your church, what social standing do you have, what value does your government place on you except for your vote? Can you afford to travel abroad? And why is the Government of the United States the biggest debtor by far in the whole world, and getting bigger? Where the f**k has your productivity, hard work and money gone? Do you have financial peace of mind as a citizen of the most technologically and economically advanced country in the whole f**king world?
And all this for being the most hated nation in the eyes of at least a quarter of the world’s population, if not half? And someone said he (or she) is “happy to be led by the nose” on the empty promises of Mr Obama.
And you knew where you were then
Girls were girls, and men were men
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again
If they hate us so, why do so many of them want to come live here?
Ah, mushrooms. I’m afraid you might find stock on hand horribly depleted, given the outbreak of teh crazy in this thread.
OTOH, I hear they grow on cowflops, and there are always plenty of those around.
Critizing Obama is not racist. I am black and African and i can’t stand the thought of Obama being the president of America. Colin Powell, yes. This Obama guy is a cheat. Not only is he going to lose big, he may in the process deny the Democrats a chance in grabbing the white house. The Republicans must be salivating—enjoying their dirty tricks with the so-called ‘independents’.
ITS RULING LORDS AND BARONS
Yep, That is GWB and DC. They’re island hopping around the entire world, picking up more subjects. Iran is next on their agenda. GWB will probably find a way to stay in the White House, so he can enjoy the spoils of war. After all God told him to invade Iraq. God forbid there is a Democrat in the White House, those Godless Democrats won’t kill innocent children with smart bombs like us Republicans.
Pablo,
To paraphrase Allahpundit:
SECOND LOOK AT MEATHEAD!
There are racists on this thread?
Name three.
And yourself doesn’t count.
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was Protein Wisdom…
Don’t worry, my African brother “Kem”. I doubt that Bush will ever leave. He won’t let some Black dude “Obama” step foot in the “White” House. I’ve been American from birth and I can assure you, it will not happen. There won’t be woman in there either. It is a Man’s place. She cried on TV and that blew it for her. Nobody wants a cry baby for President, at least not while bombs are dropping. Urah Devil Dogs.
Oh, I’m sorry, I thought this was Protein Wisdom
More like protein racism, spewed by out of work White guys, whom have time to sit around at their home PC, and get all freaked out that the big bad black man is coming to get them.
Take care fellas and find some paying jobs.
Chuck’s obviously several shrooms ahead of the main pack, although there are a few right on his tail.
Fucker. I think I called dibs on the shrooms, ya greedy asshole.
If they hate us so, why do so many of them want to come and live here?
Is that proof and comfort that half the world doesn’t really hate the USA? That’s how many Americans continue to kid themselves. You may hate your mother-in-law, or even your own father, but can you not think of circumstances that make you still live with them?
Brother, the world is desperately full of poor desperate people, from historical developments, colonial exploitation, wars and destruction, no small part of which has been the handiwork of our Lords and Barons. And most of those who come are ignorant and see the USA as an escape from poverty, packaged by dazzling american brands, TV projections of American Life and the wide-spread gloss of american “culture”. Of course, there are professionals who come to advance their careers, some of whom leave and others remain. For this privileged group, they can enjoy the better material comforts of the USA because they can afford it.
Fortunately, the hatred is balanced somewhat by many individual americans who are decent and caring people, who are not bigots and zealots, who don’t possess a “power is might” mindset – individuals who are not lords, barons, government and trigger-happy rednecks.
I think Bill Clinton would say otherwise. oh well…. catching up….
my favorite so far.
oh gawd, this is going to be a long year isn’t it?
This may be the most dada-esque Jeff-free thread on this site.
Ever.
I’m in awe.
You’ll find he is a bomb, your Obama, if ever a bomb there was
If ever, oh ever, a bomb there was Barack Obama is one because
Because, because, because, because, because
Because he’s a stupidhead Urkel-lookin’ wannabe is why
More like protein racism
Well, I’d like to say….
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OH, I GET IT.
A JOKE!
BWHAAAAHAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!
Protein racism
Oh Boyd, you are THE MAN!!!!111!one!!!111!!eleven!!1!1!1!!!
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oh, sorry, this one was really good too. it’s just I had to wade through so much stupid and, well, I’m susceptible to it today, I guess.
Black people have become schizophrenic paranoid whenever a white person disagrees with a black candidate. No wonder then the establishment white press are scared to their tails’ ends at asking Obama tough questions. Did he sell drugs?. Use drugs?. I call it complicity by proxy.
Every time we approach a Presidential election, the cry goes out that the current President will refuse to leave on January 20. I heard it about Clinton, I’m hearing it about GWB. And yet, regular as clockwork, the regimes roll over, with no problem.
What is it that gets people so worried that the HGWIC won’t give it up for the next HGWIC?
Hey, Chuck. What do you do for a living, anyway?
It’s been awhile since I ‘shroomed, but I coulda swore I got very mellow. Perchance the Chuckster has been huffing glue. Would explain the angry hallucinations.
I think Chuck is actually Gleen(s), trying to generate material for his next column.
Perchance the Chuckster has been huffing glue.
Whatever it is, I bet he’s buying it off of kem.
Perchance the Chuckster has been huffing glue. Would explain the angry hallucinations.
Meth, kelly, crystal effing meth. And some Ripple to smooth out the rough spots.
Don’t ask me how I know.
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
Karl and Dan – These posts have been brilliant. Masterpieces. You have drug these beautiful mindless little platitude spewers out into the open, and gave them a kind nuturing environment where they feel safe is puking pablum all over the place.
I cannot recall the last time that I have laughed so much. Maybe the first time I watched Van Wilder.
I guess the Northeastern Dems are RACISTS ! No, the midwestern Dems are sexist. I mean hope is change. Or is it change is hope? Don’t Change by INXS was an incredible song.
FearTheObama is the only person in this election that can make that fucktard Edwards look positively qualified to be President.
I go away for a few hours, and what happens to this place? Honestly, I haven’t seen such a collection of bizarre comments ever. It’s been amusing, though.
The next time y’all get up in arms over the dangers of having stark raving lunatics in charge, just remember this thread.
We’ll all go into comedy writing, and we’ll be billionaires — without ever having to come up with an original idea because these guys give it away for free.
yeah, Carin, I was trying to explain it to RTO and just couldn’t. but bizarre fits. these and the Glenn Beck thing from a day or two ago. who are these people?
It’s the link from CBS. It’s not so bizarre considering the audience CBS cultivates.
I must have read this thread 4 or 5 times tonight. At first, I thought that alpuccino found an old stash of shrooms, or had been licking a really old sheet of blotter paper, but then, it dawned on me, these are real people. People who will cancel out your vote. People that are allowed to use oxygen without reimbursing the rest of us for that privilege. A pure and beautiful kind of crazy, that should be nurtured, encouraged, and emboldened.
Teh NPR told me for sure Obama would win tonight and I don’t think I trust them anymore.
I had to listen to 2 hours of NPR in the car today with corporate counsel. I used to think he was smart. Now, not so much.
I’m not married and my father is dead. So, no, I can’t. But I think I see the problem here. It’s not too late for you to make amends, simon. All you need is love.
So the world hates England is what you’re trying to say. And that the indigenous folk are all utterly blameless for their societies’ conditions. Check.
Strangely enough, they’re still right.
No matter how you slice it, power is might ya bigoted, government happy redneck baron zealot.
Fortunately, the hatred is balanced somewhat by many individual americans who are decent and caring people, who are not bigots and zealots, who don’t possess a “power is might†mindset – individuals who are not lords, barons, government and trigger-happy rednecks.
Tolerance. It ain’t just for breakfast anymore.
Barack or Barry O is da man. Dat man won’t be going into Irak to steal no oil. No, sir.
Dat man won’t be running up the largest debt since Herbert Hoover cheated the IRS out of a new pair of running shoes. No, sir. Barry O is the da man. His middle name is bold and brash, like Corey Feldman. But his last name is cool and leaflike, like leaves.
No, sir. I bet we all get free abacuses when Da Man Barry-O takes the stand. Yes, sir!
Why dat Barry O is so groovy, he makes my spleen get liver spots, and you all know what I’m talking about. Yes, sir!
Well, at the least the BoSox beat the Arizona Sundevils in the best 3 of 5 chipperdoos with no less than 3 men stranded on Mazola Oil. And that was all the work of Da Main Maaaaaannnn Barry O. Give it up for Barry-O.
Plus, Barry O lines up better with Putin on defense, but the Barry-O/Sarkozy matchup on offense will really stain your gefarden, and you all know what I mean. Yes, sir!
Senor Pablo, multiple choice Q & A for you: Ya a redneck, lord, baron, decent, tolerant, educated, ignorant, God-fearing, women-hating, love-starved, caring, under-achieving, successful American or all or none of these? (Note: I have excluded racist).
BTW, ever heard of Texas, California and Mexico, Spanish-American War, possession of Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, the creation of Panama out of Colombia, the Caribbean, invasion of the Domiunican Republic, Africa, the taking and trading of slaves, Standard Oil Company, Pancho Villa, Nicaragua, Haiti, etc, etc
“The scenes of battle (WWI) were played out for the most part in Europe…But the real prize was elsewhere. The bottom line was that the nations of Europe were fighting over the course of empire. The spoils of victory in this Great War were Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Whatever the professed reasons for going to war, it was the material wealth – the gold and diamonds of South Africa, the metals and rubber of Africa, the rubber of Malaysia, the oil of the Middle East – that was at the heart of the conflict…. The leaders of Europe knew their own national resources were exhaustible. Power, even survival, in this new age of industry and mechanisation would come from control of these resources in the colonial world.
“For generations of American schoolchildren, …the stated reasons for America’s involvement were freedom of the seas and the preservation of democracy…But as in almost every other war America has fought, powerful forces in industry, banking, and commerce cynically thought that war was healthy. And if the world was going to be divvied up after the fighting was over, America might as well get its fair share of the spoils…In all these postwar dealings, the seeds were being sown for the next war in Europe (WWII) as well as generations of deadly division in the Middle East, Africa, Eastern Europe, and Indochina.”
Ah, I think I see the problem here. Simon has chosen to take his quotes proving how bad Western Civilization is by quoting Kenneth C. Davis’ children’s book, aptly named Don’t Know Much About History.
Simon, shouldn’t you be in school?
TomB, have you been a child before? Assuming yes, do you have anything against the children’s books you read? Are you against going to school?
No, I ain’t proving how bad western civilisation is, only showing the really bad parts that produce rapacious robber barons, trigger-happy war-mongers, hate-generators, mass-killers. Have you served in an American war? Do you have friends who are Vietnam war vets? Why don’t British prime ministers, German chancellors, French presidents get killed by their own people like so many American presidents?
American society, hype, you-die-I-live competition, ignorant and extreme religiosity produce a dis-enfranchised diverse group in terms of material and psychological well-being (mostly among the middle and middle-lower classes) that can only feel self-respect by taking pride and feel manhood in America’s wanton aggressiveness (willingly and blindly begging to be led, provoked or stoked by the Barons) against fellow Americans of a different color or creed, outsiders and anyone who see faults in America. They are bewildered by the rat race but can’t survive at the level of struggle that keeps the really poor Americans sane. They are wound-up in this highly wound-up society. They hate everything they are ignorant about and are desperate for parochial pride in America’s material achievements of which they get only the crumbs.
Save some money and travel abroad, be humble and make humble friends, find humanity in the people of other countries and creed and you’ll be really rich materially, spiritually and emotionally. That is true freedom, American or whatever other brand.
Don’t be a blind Billy just because you’d rather hate and be hated than admit America’s faults. Self-esteem and self-confidence come from being rich and successful, and many individual Americans are rich and successful from hardwork and not robbery and killing. America has allowed me to make money but my community is the WORLD, not just America.
I’m not married. –Pablo
Well, Duh. This was as self-evident as if Pablo had typed “I have a little penis which no one else loves and I wish someone would.”
You and your little dingy apartment, bike riding and sending love letters to your former M-60. It’s a picture you daily paint with words all over the internet, Pablo.
Hint: Expressing your pain, while cathartic to you (and maybe JD), just made me laugh and giggle.
You reap what you sow, angry man.
Shorter Simon:
Western Civilization is good except for all the bad parts.
not really a people-person are you IJS?
Assuming yes, do you have anything against the children’s books you read?
The only thing I have against children’s books are when they are used unknowingly by someone pretending to be smart to justify the worst thoughts (feelings?) about America. It demonstrates an intense unseriousness on the part of the writer.
Do you have friends who are Vietnam war vets? Why don’t British prime ministers, German chancellors, French presidents get killed by their own people like so many American presidents?
I didn’t realize we had so many presidents assasinated.
Nonetheless, you might want to look at Mr. Davis’ rant about WWI and ask yourself the same question.
Hint: “British prime ministers, German chancellors, French presidents” all had a lot more to do with that, and the resulting “plunder” than an American president. Why are they spared your wrath?
You and your little dingy apartment, bike riding and sending love letters to your former M-60. It’s a picture you daily paint with words all over the internet, Pablo.
Uh oh Pablo, better watch out, looks like someone’s taken a bit of a fancy to you.
Look’s like s/he’s been following you.
Nope, TomB is freshly hoisted out of the axlotl tanks. Grown, not gestated.
How sweet, Pabs has hisself a stalker.
Why is it that in (say) Britain and Europe, except among extremists, ordinary people’s views of political leanings are not colored by branding and labels (such as liberal nanny) that reflect a whole conundrum of hate and prejudices, to the extent that we find among a much larger group in America? Why do some in this thread barely disguise their hatred for Obama (which is not the same as criticism)?
America might be defeated ultimately by its enemies because while some spew hatred they are neither brave enough or mad enough to be suicide bombers.
Bush is such a strong, fearless leader to a sizeable number of Americans (Carter a weakling) because he just bombed the hell out of America’s wayward adopted child, the late Saddam, and proudly calls himself a War President – a Commander-in-Chief who squirreled himself away in the National Guard while other dumb sons of America die for this Texas Oil Baron and his cronies.
Ah, America’s psychological need for a “strong” leader. A medieval populace led by a Business-Aristocrat-Evangelist political oligarchy in a state-of-the-art economy. Sub-prime, sub-prime, Enron, Enron, why have you forsaken me?
I wonder if simon’s ever seen the inside of a history book, or read a non-glossy newspaper.
I never thought I could find so much tasty crazy all in one place, and yet, here it is. I shall go away for a bit and refresh, I’m sure there will be oh so much more to read later.
Simon, are you going to answer any questions, or are you just going to continue with your electronic finger painting?
I wonder if simon’s ever seen the inside of a history book, or read a non-glossy newspaper.
In all fairness to simon, the book he quoted is meant to be a history book.
In the same way that “Small Business Marketing for Dummies” is meant to be a college textbook.
TomB, I’m in no position to spare anyone my wrath. Truth is not Wrath.
This thread is not about British, French or German politics and society. It’s about the lives of ordinary Americans when they choose their President and, for those who value it, their belonging to the World Community of Human Beings. So many Americans are so inward-looking that they don’t want to know the bad parts of anything. One of my first children’s books told me there is a World outside where I live.
BTW, I disagree with Slart about your origin. I’d rather be fair than smart.
One of my first children’s books told me there is a World outside where I live.
GET OUT! I need to get me that book. Do you think they have it on tape?
It’s about the lives of ordinary Americans when they choose their President and, for those who value it, their belonging to the World Community of Human Beings. So many Americans are so inward-looking that they don’t want to know the bad parts of anything.
I didn’t know we were voting for the President of the World Community of Human Beings. I learn something new everyday on this-there intertubes. If only I got out of the trailer park a bit more often …
But, tell me more about “bad parts.” Are you talking about Paris Hilton? Or, Jamie Lynn … I can’t believe she’s pregnant. BUT I STILL LOVE HER, EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES.
TomB, I’m in no position to spare anyone my wrath.
Good Christ Sparky, get over yourself.
And answer my questions.
SPEAKING TRUTH TO COMMENTERS!!!
No, I ain’t proving how bad western civilisation is, only showing the really bad parts that produce rapacious robber barons, trigger-happy war-mongers, hate-generators, mass-killers
Because, it isn’t human nature that produces those things. Only Western CiviliZation. I could point out the “robber barons, trigger-happy war-mongers, hate-generators, and mass killers” in non-Western societies, but I have a feeling our little friend will say that Western Civ “caused” those things in other societies.
Carin, don’t just get out of the trailer, don’t live in it, live in the WORLD.
I didn’t know we were voting for the President of the World Community of Human Beings. I learn something new everyday on this-there intertubes.
The President of the USA goes around bombing the rest of the world, so by might or by right, he (now looks likely to be a she) is President of the World. The logic is simple.
TomB, I have answered your questions. BTW, Sparky says to leave Christ out of it, for Christ’s sake!
I didn’t realize we had so many presidents assasinated.
TomB, you really mean not enough have been assassinated?
TomB, you really mean not enough have been assassinated?
No, I mean “I didn’t realize we had so many presidents assasinated”.
Heck, its only been almost half a century since the last one.
Failure on both counts, unfortunately. A little effort at either one, on your part, might be refreshing. But don’t strain yourself.
Carin, don’t just get out of the trailer, don’t live in it, live in the WORLD.
I SEE the light … I’m going to BE the World. I’m gonna live, breath, and eat the world. Perhaps I’ll even go meet me some of those funny-looking Chinks. I hear they eat dogs! Poor Fido:(((( But, I’m going to become open-minded. The WORLD will be my trailerpark.
GET OUT! I need to get me that book. Do you think they have it on tape?
Carin, we are now so advanced that we use micro or nano dvd, not tape. Give me your address, I’ll send you one, FOC.
TomB, I have answered your questions.
Where?
And what should we do about Sudan?
And Kenya … don’t forget to ask him about Kenya!
I’d rather be fair than smart.
Failure on both counts, unfortunately. A little effort at either one, on your part, might be refreshing. But don’t strain yourself.
Slart, thanks for the advice. I now realize that you are a closet caring American. BTW, are you a doctor?
But, tell me more about “bad parts.†Are you talking about Paris Hilton? Or, Jamie Lynn … I can’t believe she’s pregnant. BUT I STILL LOVE HER, EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES.
Carin, none of us is responsible for Jamie being in the baby way. But I really don’t think making a baby is a mistake, even when punch drunk. BTW, I’m neither pro-life nor pro-choice, I’m just pro-baby-making.
No, Slart is an architect. A designer.
Of landscapes.
Ever been to Norway?
Carin, none of us is responsible for Jamie being in the baby way. But I really don’t think making a baby is a mistake, even when punch drunk. BTW, I’m neither pro-life nor pro-choice, I’m just pro-baby-making.
You’re right. I don’t know what came over me. We need to rally around Jamie and support her right now. It is not the time for judging. BE THE WORLD.
But, what about the writer’s strike? That is certainly one of those “bad parts” about America, right?
Oh, I’m just confused. I really need that book. Does it come in 8-track? Pappy always said no sense changing when what you have works just fine.
Engineer, actually.
I’m a doctor (no, really).
What do I win?
Trains pretty much drive themselves these days, don’t they Slart?
And Kenya … don’t forget to ask him about Kenya!
Kabuki or Kibaki (or whatever, ask George, he’s good at spelling) is George’s good friend. George sends him cash every Thanksgiving and a water pistol at Christmas.
And what should we do about Sudan?
Ya, all this about the Chinese should put more pressure on them (and the Burmese) is nanny talk. Like the cowboys, they should just bomb the hell out of them. Like Saddam, and the stupid anti-Russian, ex-pro-CIA Taliban, and Vietnam (it was stupid to think that just napalm will save American and Vietnamese democracy), and Al-Queda in Pakistan, and don’t forget all the Arabs in the Middle East, and Putin (he’s getting too big for his boots), and the Turks for zapping the Kurds for fighting Saddam for gassing the Kurds for fighting Saddam for fighting Iran using USA weaponry (and still almost losing the war, the stupid shit) for making friends with Chavez for making friends with Castro for threatening our homeland security for the past umpteen decades for setting an example for 9/11 for killing innocents for supporting Israel for fighting the Saudis for Producing Osama for using American Saudi cash for training terrorists for entering the USA for causing us to hate them more and more and more for causing our government to encroach on our freedom for protecting us.
You see now why we have Enron and sub prime? If we didn’t go around in such a big circle and just nuked all these bastards, we’ll have a WMD industry that we could all buy stocks in and every American can be so filthy rich that we wouldn’t need a stupid Presidential election where they spend all this fierce sums of dollars telling us we need change when we don’t the f**k need to change because we are naturally a happy people who prefer Guns, Goodies and God, not forgetting about sex BTW, because we need that for another round of baby boomers to pay for our insurance and retirement until we die and go straight to heaven and meet God who created America.
Let it out, buddy. Just let it all out. Change is a’comin.
wow, my world is soooo boring.
wow, my world is soooo boring.
Don’t be bored. I took early retirement so I have time on this thread so I won’t be bored.
BTW, it’s also a good way for looking for a new wife to share my American-earned wealth (Wall street actually, but no WMD investments because of my conscience). I’d prefer a wife with exactly opposite political views so I can broaden my outlook (aside from doing other things with her in my free time).
Trains pretty much drive themselves these days, don’t they Slart?
My great granddad drove a train on tracks built by the robber barons.
Ya, all this about the Chinese should put more pressure on them (and the Burmese) is nanny talk. Like the cowboys, they should just bomb the hell out of them. Like Saddam, and the stupid anti-Russian, ex-pro-CIA Taliban, and Vietnam (it was stupid to think that just napalm will save American and Vietnamese democracy), and Al-Queda in Pakistan, and don’t forget all the Arabs in the Middle East, and Putin (he’s getting too big for his boots), and the Turks for zapping the Kurds for fighting Saddam for gassing the Kurds for fighting Saddam for fighting Iran using USA weaponry (and still almost losing the war, the stupid shit) for making friends with Chavez for making friends with Castro for threatening our homeland security for the past umpteen decades for setting an example for 9/11 for killing innocents for supporting Israel for fighting the Saudis for Producing Osama for using American Saudi cash for training terrorists for entering the USA for causing us to hate them more and more and more for causing our government to encroach on our freedom for protecting us
So, ummm, what should we do about Sudan?
I wouldn’t lead with the sharing my American-earned wealth thing. For one thing it’s kind of cheating and also trust me that a lot a lot a lot that just doesn’t work out well at all. Try getting her to get intrigued with maybe your mind or a photoshopped naked pic or about your shared enthusiasms for changeyness and then maybe the wealth stuff can just be a nice surprise for her for later. You’re welcome.
BTW, it’s also a good way for looking for a new wife to share my American-earned wealth (Wall street actually, but no WMD investments because of my conscience). I’d prefer a wife with exactly opposite political views so I can broaden my outlook (aside from doing other things with her in my free time).
I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
Fuck Sudan, Tom. I mean, there are many other places were we can examine our worldliness. BE THE WORLD. EXCEPT THE YUCKY PLACES. Try to stay away from them both physically and intellectually.
It’s all about humility and creeds and shit.
You know something? Because I see the bad parts (the good parts are sort of “expected” of western civilization as represented by too many people to be named), I saw the sub-prime coming and made a lot of money. No boasting.
It doesn’t pay to shut our eyes to the truth, even for “commentators”.
wouldn’t lead with the sharing my American-earned wealth thing. For one thing it’s kind of cheating and also trust me that a lot a lot a lot that just doesn’t work out well at all. Try getting her to get intrigued with maybe your mind or a photoshopped naked pic or about your shared enthusiasms for changeyness and then maybe the wealth stuff can just be a nice surprise for her for later. You’re welcome.
Really good advice. But I wish this cheery message would also come from a pretty gal.
I totally see the oil bubble bursting but no one believes me and either way I’m not gonna make a dime. I just think that sucks is all.
The President bombs the world….. (The whole world? Who knew?)
And heals, builds, repairs, and feed the world, too.
But you wouldn’t want to talk about any of that, would you, Simon?
But you wouldn’t want to talk about any of that, would you, Simon?
It would seem that simon only wants to get laid.
What an uncaring and shallow person he turns out to be.
So, ummm, what should we do about Sudan?
Just told you. Like we Americans, the Chinese should take the lead and bomb the hell out of everyone there and prove American lies to be true – that they don’t bomb people because the chinks are just too inscrutable that you don’t see them even if they poke you in the face with one of their nukes. Forget about the failed European-led peace negotiations because these stupid Europeans didn’t propangandize a single squeak about blaming the Chinese. Sakorzy’s smart – he’s just concentrating his time on his girlfriend and he needs to do business with the chinks. The trouble with the French is they are sometimes too honest to buy our American bullshit – they are honest about their Presidents’ mistresses but we blame Bill for varicating about whether he inhaled or didn’t, he penetrated or merely skirted around, like beating around the Bush who was at least honest about Iragi WMD.
You see, so many people hate us that we think it’s time we try bull-shitting the world to hate the Chinese. But shit, it ain’t working coz the world ain’t listening to so much of our bullshit as before. Blame it on Bill Gates, the Internet and, oh, shit!
I think its time to try freaking them out with real CHARM, like Miss America for President of the USA (forget Hilary, only Bill and other nut cases think the world of her). Even stupid Rudd and a whole lot of aussies got charmed by the chink Who?
Back off buddy.
Maggie is MY wife.
Maggie and happy – That was a riot. You guys are killing me. This little ball of pablum is just so cute.
Timmah – Fuck off.
I’m wondering when simon will stop with the free-association and get back to doing drawrings.
Just told you. Like we Americans, the Chinese should take the lead and bomb the hell out of everyone there and prove American lies to be true – that they don’t bomb people because the chinks are just too inscrutable that you don’t see them even if they poke you in the face with one of their nukes. Forget about the failed European-led peace negotiations because these stupid Europeans didn’t propangandize a single squeak about blaming the Chinese. Sakorzy’s smart – he’s just concentrating his time on his girlfriend and he needs to do business with the chinks. The trouble with the French is they are sometimes too honest to buy our American bullshit – they are honest about their Presidents’ mistresses but we blame Bill for varicating about whether he inhaled or didn’t, he penetrated or merely skirted around, like beating around the Bush who was at least honest about Iragi WMD.
Simon please, and I’m going to ask you to concentrate REAL HARD here, what should we do about Sudan?
You know, like really do?
Not a stream of consciousness rant.
Do?
And heals, builds, repairs, and feed the world, too.
But you wouldn’t want to talk about any of that, would you, Simon?
Sure, I would. Two types of healing and feeding.
ONE, you bomb the hell out of (say) Iraq, then you send in your contractors, red cross and food aid. And so on, and so on. Robber barons exploit but they are not stupid – they also feed the victims, abroad or at home.
TWO, ordinary Americans (not our robber baron government and business-aristocrat-evangelist oligarchy)heals at home and abroad. The CIA tried messing around with the Peace Corp and it died. Those of us who travel or live abroad see the genuine display of affection and welcome extended by people all over the under-developed world to caring, generous and humane ORDINARY Americans, many of whom do not see all the American warts like I do but are not too smug nor blind to fail to judge things on a humane and humanity scale, including their own government and sections of their society. And the feeding and caring come from funding by genuine charitable American foundations, not those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers masquerading as charities. These same type of great ordinary Americans are the same who care for justice at home. Humaneness knows no boundaries.
You’ll be surprised that this shining face of America is the face that the underprivileged and poor the world over almost spontaneously yearn to see, until they are shocked and disillusioned by the other ugly, brutal, rednecked face of America represented by blatant American aggression, lies, deception, prejudice and ignorance.
Damn, I thought (mistakenly) that this thread was dead around 10:30 my time last night. Instead we’ve got some loser named Simon Li sporting an ostensible inferiority complex trolling for a date with Ann Coulter.
Now that’s some quality crazy, there, folks.
It would seem that simon only wants to get laid.
What an uncaring and shallow person he turns out to be.
TomB, wanting to get laid doesn’t make me or you (assuming you also want to get laid) uncaring and shallow. In fact, getting laid often requires caring. In this regard, shallow or not shallow is a physical attribute, not unlike deep throat.
not really a people-person are you IJS?
IJS may be just a see-the-funny-side-of-people person, that’s all. I haven’t met Pablo, so I don’t know if he has the funny side that IJS sees.
Those of us who travel or live abroad see the genuine display of affection and welcome extended by people all over the under-developed world to caring, generous and humane ORDINARY Americans, many of whom do not see all the American warts like I do but are not too smug nor blind to fail to judge things on a humane and humanity scale, including their own government and sections of their society. And the feeding and caring come from funding by genuine charitable American foundations, not those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers masquerading as charities. These same type of great ordinary Americans are the same who care for justice at home. Humaneness knows no boundaries.
Funny, I must have missed those “genuine charitable American foundations” when I lost everything. The only people who were around to help me when it mattered most were “those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers” known as the United States Navy.
Saved a lot of lives, they did.
Oh, and you can suck my balls, too, simon. You clearly don’t know a goddamned thing about America. If you think anyone here is the least impressed with the regurgitated bile of the leftist cant you’ve swallowed whole, you’re more deranged that you appear to be.
TomB, wanting to get laid doesn’t make me or you (assuming you also want to get laid) uncaring and shallow.
Does too!!!
Back off buddy.
Maggie is MY wife.
Sorry, buddy, the message was not meant for Maggie. It was a general broadcast, taking advantage of this thread, but DEFINITELY excluding Maggie. Hope you accept my apology.
those of us who travel or live abroad see the genuine display of affection and welcome extended by people all over the under-developed world to caring, generous and humane ORDINARY Americans, many of whom do not see all the American warts like I do but are not too smug nor blind to fail to judge things on a humane and humanity scale, including their own government and sections of their society. And the feeding and caring come from funding by genuine charitable American foundations, not those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers masquerading as charities. These same type of great ordinary Americans are the same who care for justice at home. Humaneness knows no boundaries.
Man … if squinted my eyes a bit during parts of that – I would have thought you were referring to the military. Either that, or a Catholic (and other religious) charities.
But, I’m thinking you weren’t thinking of those organizations.
oh, see, now you’ve spoiled my day. crapweasel.
Oh, so now she’s not good enough for you, is that it?
Damn, I thought (mistakenly) that this thread was dead around 10:30 my time last night. Instead we’ve got some loser named Simon Li sporting an ostensible inferiority complex trolling for a date with Ann Coulter.
Thanks a million for the intro, Kelly. But you shouldn’t do things like half-way, like dangling a carrot or fish before a starving pussy. You have a direct line to Ann?
And thiws is just the organized governmetn stuff–Iraq and Afghanistan excluded since you’ve already indicted us for trying to help where we have contributed (NOT caused) to conditions.
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=30568&archive=true
http://www.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=30391
http://www.usaid.gov/locations/sub-saharan_africa/sudan/
http://www.wood.army.mil/hdtc/dodhma.html
http://www.usaid.gov/locations/asia_near_east/tsunami/
http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=washfile-english&y=2007&m=March&x=20070306101755MVyelwarC0.5818292
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2006/02/mil-060203-usia03.htm
Feel free to ignore that the US is the largest contributor to humanitarian assistance and volunteerism in the world.
Sorry, buddy, the message was not meant for Maggie. It was a general broadcast, taking advantage of this thread, but DEFINITELY excluding Maggie. Hope you accept my apology.
Oh, so now she’s not good enough for you, is that it?
RTO, what I really really intended to say (with all these other people watching, it’s kind of embarassing) is if she’s good enough for you, she’s got to be good enough for me. Is that being shallow or does it not demonstrate my sincerity?
Man … if squinted my eyes a bit during parts of that – I would have thought you were referring to the military. Either that, or a Catholic (and other religious) charities.
But, I’m thinking you weren’t thinking of those organizations.
Uh, uh. You send your goons to bash up one neighbour and rampage thru his hut, and you send them to kiss another neighbour’s baby. Does it square things off? Don’t get me wrong, the goons are not really goons, just ordinary American boys just doing their job for the Texan Oil Baron from the National Guard. They ain’t got a choice, so many of them get home like a bit sick after the rampage.
until they are shocked and disillusioned by the other ugly, brutal, rednecked face of America represented by blatant American aggression, lies, deception, prejudice and ignorance.
Simon – Nope. Wrong. That is the view that you and the media would like to project. That is most certianly not who we are, fucker.
And you think teh US sends mixed messaages in Iraq adn Afghanistan? You could give lessons pal.
You’d better figure out what side of the line you think you want to be on since you’ve already made it clear that you don’t care if you alienate rednecks and I’m from Oklahoma.
Simon Li is really a little fucker, no? But, I find him amusing.
Feel free to ignore that the US is the largest contributor to humanitarian assistance and volunteerism in the world.
Ditto – Uh, uh. You send your goons to bash up one neighbour and rampage thru his hut, and you send them to kiss ANOTHER neighbour’s baby. DOES IT SQUARE THINGS OFF? Don’t get me wrong, the goons are not really goons, just ordinary American boys just doing their job for the Texan Oil Baron from the National Guard. They ain’t got a choice, so many of them get home like a bit sick after the rampage.
gawd, you’re clueless. or do you want to finally back up your assertions?
Why do you ignore me simon?
I waited for your sainted “humanitarian” organizations to come, but they never did. Why is that?
I owe my life to the US Navy, and you want me to think of them as “goons”? How can that be?
I mean, cause the U.S. is drafting people right?
You didn’t even look at any of the examples I gave did you?
Far beter men than you have called my father a “jack booted thug” over nothing more than who he was employed by, so you calling me a goon now is no great shakes. You haven’t got the evidence or the chops to back it up anyway.
I’ve volunteered for my two tours in Afghanistan and I volunteered for the National Guard to begin with (and re-enlisted for another 6 years while I was there the last time), so you come back and tell me a again how few my choices are. Especially if you consider that the choice in your world is that all of us in the military are either victims or dupes. The fact that you’ve never managed to contribute to the world around you, and haven’t got the inner fortitude to try is by no means a reflection on the rest of us, nor a justification for trashing us.
And until you’ve ever experienced anything like the stress of a combat zone, I’d recommend you refrain from holding forth on the “horrors of war(TM)” and the effect it has on those who do experience it.
Oh, and you can suck my balls, too, simon. You clearly don’t know a goddamned thing about America. If you think anyone here is the least impressed with the regurgitated bile of the leftist cant you’ve swallowed whole, you’re more deranged that you appear to be.
Kelly, can I ask you a personal question? Talking about sucking, did you get suckered by the sub-prime thing?
It ain’t the lefties who got you where you are today, all freaked out. We’ve got a doctor, an engineer and a landscape designer (or was it artist) around to give you a top-to-toe physical – how much it would cost you, I dunno, but it wouldn’t cost me none.
BTW, I’m right-handed, not left, so there you are, wrong again. What may help you is if you’d decide to go color-blind, ambidextrous, and take deep deep breaths every morning and night. And drink lots of water.
Simon is trying and failing to be as funny as Witheld.
He is, in fact, failing to be as funny as Carrot Top, but he’s not trying to be as funny as Carrot Top.
Who would?
simon’s really a one-trick pony with this subprime thing. I’m beginning to suspect that he’s a victim, here, despite his claims to the contrary.
“Sub-prime” is just a word that simon heard on the news and understood only as much as it was “bad.” So he adopted it.
He’s managed to betray not one shred of understanding of it or to what it pertains despite repeated references to it.
You’d better figure out what side of the line you think you want to be on since you’ve already made it clear that you don’t care if you alienate rednecks and I’m from Oklahoma.
RTO, The Readers Digest Universal Dictionary defines “redneck” as follows: (1) Any of the white rural laboring class in the southern US; (2) Chiefly US usage – a manual worker having bigoted views.”
I am certainly not using meaning (1) as that makes me a bigot. I use meaning (2) with the “manual worker” bit deleted. I have the highest respect for the working man, being “accused”, perhaps not wrongly, of being a leftist.
I have inadvertently offended you and extend to you my sincere apologies. I make no distinction between Whites and Coloreds, North or South, Oklahoma or Connecticut. I wish to re-affirm that you have my respect as a person.
What about the working womyn?
I guess Rosie the Riveteer is just SOL.
not you too, Karl!
simon’s really a one-trick pony with this subprime thing. I’m beginning to suspect that he’s a victim, here, despite his claims to the contrary.
Slart, sure, if it makes you happy. Nah, a person like me who is always watching out for robber barons is too smart for their tricks. Let’s say, seriously, even if you hate my political views, just try adopting my views in economic or financial terms and you’d be a lot better off. You see, I’m not so bad after all – really hoping to help you coz it costs me none and you ain’t that bad – just angry.
Simon,
I don’t beleive you.
You throw out freighted terms and then wait to see if anyone takes offense upon which you offer unctuous appologies.
I have no wish to have your respect and most certainly not “as a person” (can you even tell me what that distinction means?). What I want, is if you wnat a fight, to put up a defense when countered. Or, if you don’t want a fight, to quit picking one. The behavior you have displayed is what my father would, charitably, call “chickenshit.”
Perhaps, this seeming to be a priority to you sicne you assume that it is desired by others, you seek respect. It’s available, but you’re going to have to take a stand.
You could start by answering the questions that have been asked about Darfur.
Or not. I don’t care. If you wish to engage, than do so. If not, go away you annoying little person.
What an idiot. I, like others here, tend to doubt you even know what “sub-prime” means, simon. Fact is, I’m reasonably sure you’re just another poseur who thinks, like a two-year old, his little turds dropped on the carpet at PW are funny.
Your whiny screeds are as predictable as they are stale. And, again like a two-year old, you’re apparently incapable of embarrassment. Moreover, you don’t even have the distinction of being the first commenter here with gassy, cheap, anti-American cant. We’ve seen your pathetic little act so many times, half of us could write them for you. Hell, it’s almost like your whole schtick could be described as…sub-prime.
Who’s angry? I haven’t laughed so hard since the Jamie Lynn Spears thread on FARK.
I make no distinction between Whites and Coloreds, North or South, Oklahoma or Connecticut
Coloreds?
People from Colorado?
“Readers Digest?!?”
You’ve got to get yourself a library card, Simon.
And are you going to answer me simon?
What happened to your wonderful humanitarian organizations after the tsunami?
We waited for the UN, and all we saw were brand new Range Rovers driving around with well dressed and overfed people in them.
You’ve got to get yourself a library card, Simon.
What do you want from a guy that quotes his history from a children’s book? (see post 132)
Funny. That’s all the Afghans ever see of them either.
Uh, uh. You send your goons to bash up one neighbour and rampage thru his hut, and you send them to kiss ANOTHER neighbour’s baby. DOES IT SQUARE THINGS OFF? Don’t get me wrong, the goons are not really goons, just ordinary American boys just doing their job for the Texan Oil Baron from the National Guard. They ain’t got a choice, so many of them get home like a bit sick after the rampage.
So convincing … you call our military “goons” yet they’re not. Then why did you use the word? Because YOU mean it. Why back off and pretend you don’t?
My bil spend a year in Iraq, and if he heard your characterization of their job he’d probably kick your ass.
I’m triangulating on his IP address now, Carin.
Now, this “goon” thing also requires me to do a Hilary in NH.
If you are the victim bombed and rampaged, do you see some goons and some non-goons? If you don’t want to see how others see you, you react wrongly.
I said clearly that the goons are not really goons. I also did not say good Americans exclude individuals in the military. My son-in-law’s brother served in Korea and he’s one helluva decent guy who says that serving abroad opened his eyes to humanity and the world outside America. And he didn’t come home like sick, and he did have a choice.
For some, there’s an unshreddable stick-in-the-mud mentality that refuses to distinguish between right and wrong. It’s like if you criticise my college, you are criticising me personally.
It’s quite clear that I make distinctions between individuals and institutions, between identifying with the righteous cause, group or institution and the wrong and evil. Some surely will disagree with my views, some a little bit angrily, some angrily, some frenziedly and some totally freaked out. Hopefully, some will reflect on both America’s greatness and it’s evil deeds, like the Germans did. Though not the Japanese militarists till today. So, should Asians hate ALL Japanese? It would be not only stupid to do so, but unjust to those Japanese who see themselves as a part of the human race first, and as Japanese second. Some Americans are good, some are ignorant and have not got the wisdom and humanity of the good Germans and Japanese.
There you go again, Simon, comparing Americans with Germans and Japanese! Why? These are the nations that waged brutal, aggressive wars on the world. Some will ask why I don’t mention other countries.
Cannot have two standards, man. It’s righteous, if forced, to kill fellow Americans to preserve the Union but its not OK for the Chinese to re-unite Taiwan, if forced, militarily. And so on.
Now, some of you guys got your house taken back by the bank, so you kind of know what sub-prime is, though fuzzily. Don’t be angry – I’m just a rich chink who’s a big-time (now retired) CFO with an additional Chartered Accountant qualification from the U.K. But a leftist, so you may say.
RTO, I can’t give what you don’t want, including respect. I’ll just put it on the table so you can dump it a thousand times as you wish. Some of you guys may have been victims of sub-prime, hence the anger and name-calling. Financial distress does make people more irrational.
Who caused you the financial distress?
Yeesh. Looks like I’ve got some catching up to do. But I suppose I’ll start here:
My ex-wife and I divorced quite amicably a couple of years after the death of our only child, our five year old daughter, by way of cancer. We’re still very, very friendly, despite our lack of physical proximity.
What was that you were saying?
#131 simon li
The only thing your multiple choice question is missing is a fucking question. Get back to me.
Oh, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m Just Saying is Timmah! aka “neoconsstink”.
You throw out freighted terms and then wait to see if anyone takes offense upon which you offer unctuous appologies.
Why do I have to offer apologies? Only because I think you are worth apologising to. Name-calling can’t make me do that. Unless you are irrational like Slart, Kelly and JD (but Slart’s saving grace is he’s funny, not like Kelly who is something else). I mean no offense by forgetting to mention Carin, et al who are trying very hard to belong.
Oh, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m Just Saying is Timmah! aka “neoconsstink”.
Simon,
Someone is seriously deluded. I think it’s you.
Hey simon, are you going to answer Tsunami Survivor?
Refreshing anyway. I asked for a cogent, logical, consistent position. He says he can’t.
|shrug|
I could really use some mushrooms right about now. Still, I’ll press on with the Longhammer. But I think the shrooms would really be an advantage.
It takes just the right kind of upbringing to be perfectly polite and have filthy manners all at once–he’s not Timmah.
Some guys are slow on the take, so sub-prime gets them.
Like, instead of calling me names, why not get off this thread so I’ll be bored and have nobody to ship freighted terminology to.
Nah, I ain’t here to wind some people up – they open themselves up to winding. Like victims opening them selves up to the banks. Why, why, why?
Any of you glad that Hilary beat Obama in NH? Bill Clinton was generally not too bad (in America’s war-mongering context). I wonder if Hilary will bomb Iran if she became Top Dog.
Karl, I got nuthin against working womyn coz I plan on voting for Hilary. Maybe she’ll use charm and not arms to subdue America’s enemies. If Obama were a womyn, I’d vote for him but I’ve got one vote only.
only thing your multiple choice question is missing is a fucking question. Get back to me.
Pablo, time’s up. You missed the test for going to the loo.
I’m pretty sure that’s the new campaign slogan: Hillary: Ready To Charm!
Well, that does it, the kind, compassionate, concerned humanist simon is completely ignoring me.
I wonder why?
Refreshing anyway. I asked for a cogent, logical, consistent position. He says he can’t.
Can. I’ve consistently said America has two faces – the beautiful and the ugly. I am addressing the ugly for self-reflection and correction by willing-to-listen and optimal-name-calling Americans. Optimal means you don’t overdo the name-calling, otherwise I’ll die laughing.
Simon, you’re fucking horrible. I used to like that song, but you’ve ruined it forever.
You’re NOT going to Hollywood.
, that does it, the kind, compassionate, concerned humanist simon is completely ignoring me.
I wonder why?
Tsunami, can’t you see that there’s nothing wrong (and in fact something very good) about the Navy kissing neighbours’ babies and saving Tsunami victims? What has that to do with bombing and invading other countries, like a Saddam whom America reared as a pet bull terrier?
You are confusing me so I’ll start thinking like a zombie, right?
takes just the right kind of upbringing to be perfectly polite and have filthy manners all at once–he’s not Timmah.
RTO, ya motivating and deflating all at the same time, just like a true trainer. Perfectly polite motivated me no end, then filthy manners took all that away. Talk about consistency, nah.
Tsunami, can’t you see that there’s nothing wrong (and in fact something very good) about the Navy kissing neighbours’ babies and saving Tsunami victims? What has that to do with bombing and invading other countries, like a Saddam whom America reared as a pet bull terrier?
As usual, you missed the point. It isn’t that the US Navy (and the rest of the fine PEOPLE in the armed services) was the only organization that was helpful in any way for over a month after the disaster, it is that your vaunted “humanitarian organizations” were totally and utterly useless.
These are the ones you want sorting things out in Iraq, Afghanistan and Sudan. If they can’t handle disaster relief, how in God’s name are they supposed to handle genocide?
ex-wife and I divorced quite amicably a couple of years after the death of our only child, our five year old daughter, by way of cancer. We’re still very, very friendly, despite our lack of physical proximity.
Sorry to hear that about your baby, Pablo.
TomB, I’ve answered Tsunami. I thought you’d do that for me.
These are the ones you want sorting things out in Iraq, Afghanistan and Sudan. If they can’t handle disaster relief, how in God’s name are they supposed to handle genocide?
Why ever in God’s name (sorry, shoulds leave God alone) did things need sorting out in Afghan and Iraq in the first place?
TomB, I’ve answered Tsunami. I thought you’d do that for me.
You haven’t come close to an answer.
Try again.
Why ever in God’s name (sorry, shoulds leave God alone) did things need sorting out in Afghan and Iraq in the first place?
Quit trying to change the subject and answer the question.
TTomB and Tsunami, got to get me my beauty sleep now. Don’t be suspicious – I ain’t running away like chickenshit like RTO’d like me to believe. Be back approx 14, 15 hours from now.
Meanwhile, say a prayer for me, wudya?
TTomB and Tsunami, got to get me my beauty sleep now. Don’t be suspicious – I ain’t running away like chickenshit like RTO’d like me to believe. Be back approx 14, 15 hours from now.
What a fucking coward.
What a fucking coward.
Just went off for a little while, for a leak actually. A sleight of hand, if you will, just to test if my prediction comes true or not, like sub-prime, though I don’t make money out of this.
Looks like bingo! Tsunami’s gone ballistic for me going to the loo!
But seriously, it’s too early for sleep. I’m going for a date with a young chick. I’m 67 (born year of the DRAGON!) but false friends say I look 48 just coz I’m rich. Chick likes my money too and the other part of me that still does a great job.
Chow, promise to come back, then I’ll play a little game like rating the anger and frustration on a scale of 1 to 10. Top scorers get to keep calling me names!
You remind me of this exec at my company who I was eating with and he started to tell me this story, and the story was about his golf clubs… so right there, well anyway… he prefaced the story by saying “I’ve got plenty of money” which yes he does because he is very excellent and very executivey and has a PhD probably but I never heard the rest of the story really about how even all that money and the golf clubs and this one cheap club whatever cause I was sort of filing that away for how I think you have to use the word gauche it all was.
Chicks still choosing her bra and panties, so I’ve got some time for a bit of singing…
The sun shines bright on my old kentucky home
Tis summer and the darkies are gay
The corn top’s ripe and the meadow’s in the bloom…
I’ve come from Alabama wid a banjo on my knee
I’m goin’ to Louisana my true love for to see
It rained all night the day I left
The weather it was dry
The sun so hot I froze to death
Suzanna don’t ye cry…
Bring the old bugle boys we’ll sing another song
Sing it wid a spirit that will start the world along
Sing it as we use to sing it fifty thousand strong
While we are marching thru Georgia
Hurrah, hurrah, we bring the jubilee
Hurrah, hurrah, the song that makes you free
So we sang it from Atlanta to the sea…
Carry me back to old virgini
That’s where the cotton, corn and tatoes grow
That’s where the birds warble sweet in the springtime
That’s where my darkie’s heart am long to go…
More later, chick’s all tingling to go. Chow.
I would like to help you but I don’t know how.
Great, now we have our very own, batshit-crazy chinaman.
And its ciao, not “chow”, idiot.
Okay, now let’s all move away and leave no forwarding address.
Wow. you guys just got spanked. Couldn’t happen to nicer buttocks.
I’d ask you to tell us what definition of “spanked” you’re applying here, but I really don’t think I want to know.
Wow. you guys just got spanked. Couldn’t happen to nicer buttocks.
I did?
Well then, perhaps you can tell me exactly where simon answered my question about humanitarian organizations. Because simon sure couldn’t.
Spanked as in doing the hatdance on the rethug remains. But whence the interlopers?
Spanked? Really? Spanked?
Give me a fucking break. simone is as predictable as they come:
Sanctimony? Check.
Dying to tell everyone how smart he is? Check.
Proclaiming vast wealth? Check.
Cheap anti-Americanism? Check.
Oily internet faux charm?. Check.
I’ve seen better parody trolls than this cumrag.
Oh, charming. Rethug? The coin of cynn’s realm?
And what the fuck is a hatdance?
I thought a hatdance was something of the hispanic peoples. I think I saw it on the tv once.
Cynn, now where’d YOU go?!
WON’T SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER ME!!!
“Here’s you hat, there’s the door.”
yes, yes, and I’m being attended to by a herd of cabana boys. YOU WILL ALL WALLOW IN TEH JEALOUSY!!!!
time for a screwdriver.
Oh. The cabana boys will probably have the hatdance 411.
simon – I could make up a version of you that is far more entertaining than you even imagine yourself to be. That you fancy yourself an old rich ladies man gives us great amusement. You are predictible, common, ordinary, and routine as the Cubs finishing out of the playoffs, and Tiger Woods winning Majors. That you cannot see how ordinary and mundane you are makes you even more amusing.
oh, boooy! my drink is getting warm!
No need to bring Gleenwald’s Kabana Boyz into this discussion. Simon of Legree is plenty crazy all by his lonesome.
Cynn’s definition of the word “remains” is most definitely non-standard.
simon – I could make up a version of you that is far more entertaining than you even imagine yourself to be. That you fancy yourself an old rich ladies man gives us great amusement. You are predictible, common, ordinary, and routine as the Cubs finishing out of the playoffs, and Tiger Woods winning Majors. That you cannot see how ordinary and mundane you are makes you even more amusing.
JGot back with the chick, didn’t know she dispensed with the panties all night and morning long, only a bra and that a lacy black see-thru. Now that I got laid and she’s lying there all sweet and still oozing sex, I’m sore tempted like hell. But first things first.
JD, of all my friends here, your language skills don’t shine.
Word order – it’s ladies’ old man, not old ladies man.
Vocab – predictable is terminology associated with sub-prime, common and ordinary are some kind of stocks, and routine is how my chick likes it becoz when you have it ya don’t need the fancy stuff. Mundane is M16 and metaphysical refers to WMD, not the metal industry into which I’ve sunk in a big load of cash and gold is hitting the roof.
You don’t sound like an artist, so painting a version of me is perfectly natural.
I promised a scoring game but Woods out of it coz he likes it low. Later.
Some corrections to my singing dedicated to Carin and Cynn…
Bring the old bugle boys we’ll sing another song
Sing it with a spirit that will start the world along
Sing it as we used to sing it fifty thousand strong
While we are marching thru Georgia
Hurrah hurrah we bring the jubilee
Hurrah hurrah the FLAG that makes you free
So we sang the CHORUS from Atlanta to the sea
While we were marching thru Georgia…
A new one dedicated to JD as encouragement to take up world geograohy and music…
Take me back to the black hills
The black hills of dakota
To the bootiful Indian country
That I love
Lost my heart in the black hills
The black hills of dakota
Where the pines are so high
That they kiss the sky above
When I get them lonesome
And I’m far away from home
I hear the sound of the mystic mountains
Calling me back home….
JD, I don’t have vast wealth, never said that. You give me too much credit and I never take no credit from them banks. They screw you with all that crazy credit card splurging. I only have wealth, spiritually because I don’t hate people for disagreeing with me, and financially becoz my hard cash and stocks are like bewteen 10 to 15 millions, they yo yo a bit coz that’s how wall street plays the game. I might go bust if Obama gets in the door or my favorite lady first thing bombs bloody Iran and the oil price goes up the stratosphere BUT I’m hedged on gold – bet you guys it’ll hit 1000 bucks in 6 months.
Read between my lines politically, spiritually and financially. I only give tips to my friends (not spank them, Cynn, that’s not humanitarian) so they make money and feel more settled down, and agree with me, and screw the barons at their own game.
Will come back later, got to sleep, the chick’s moaning. Chow or ciao, take it or leave it.
So, we’re singing now? Let’s audition this one for Simon.
I work down at the Pizza Pit
And I drive an old Hyundai
I still live with my mom and dad
I’m 5 foot 3 and overweight
I’m a scifi fanatic
A mild asthmatic
And I’ve never been to second base
But there’s whole ‘nother me
That you need to see
Go checkout MySpace
‘Cause online I’m out in Hollywood
I’m 6 foot 5 and I look damn good
I drive a Maserati
I’m a black-belt in karate
And I love a good glass of wine
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
So much cooler online
When I get home I kiss my mom
And she fixes me a snack
And I head down to my basement bedroom
And fire up my Mac
In real life the only time I’ve ever even been to L.A
Is when I got the chance with the marching band
To play tuba in the Rose Parade
Online I live in Malibu
I pose for Calvin Klein, I’ve been in GQ
I’m single and I’m rich
And I’ve got a set of six pack abs that would blow your mind
It turns girls on that I’m mysterious
I tell them I don’t want nothing serious
‘Cause even on a slow day
I could have a three way
Chat with two women at one time
I’m so much cooler online
Yeah, I’m cooler online
That’s a cool one, Pablo. Can’t do two AT A TIME tho, not to say three. Not at my age if I dont wanna get sub-prime.
Funny thing, y’know. At my age, you kind of get wide awake after a chick gives you all her love – a second time. Still got to go back to bed, warmth and practice make perfect.
You know, how people can misread things. Like what JD meant by old ladies man – he’s not saying the ladies are old but me Simon here. To avoid confusion, I corrected him to read as ladies old man. Keep this word order thing in mind, there’s a lot in it.
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Not that it’s likely to make any sort of dent in simon’s preconcieved notions, but my mortgage is going on seven years old, and not subprime. Nor am I invested in anything affected by the subprime collapse, except as a secondary effect. It’s not as if the market isn’t affected by the subprime debacle.
Oh, and my house. But it’s hard to tell whether that’s more affected by the collapse of the housing market or by the crumbling mortgage-loan institutions, not that those are entirely separate. My house is still worth much more than I paid for it, though, and I’m not going anywhere anytime soon.
Back to strumming on your subprime harp, I imagine.
and financially becoz my hard cash and stocks are like bewteen 10 to 15 millions
And yet you get your history from a children’s book.
Oh and simon, monopoly money doesn’t count.
A truly amusing one, that simon li is.
I got the VA love meownself. But now that we;ve actually used teh word “mortgage” out here, it might give simple simon li(ar) the clue he needs as to what “sub-prime” is actually about.
Those Chinese are a randy bunch.
Funny, I must have missed those “genuine charitable American foundations†when I lost everything. The only people who were around to help me when it mattered most were “those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers†known as the United States Navy.
Tsunami, I see where your problem lies.
One, go see your optometrist (big word). Two, don’t look downwards, look up.
You equated politically motivated closet exploiters and killers with the US Navy, not me, never said that. That’s maybe because to you “killers” means only the guy toting the gun. Not me, I look up, right where the barons are.
Anyway, now it’s your turn to help me with something – what’s a mortgage? Is that where they fix your car?
BTW, if my favorite lady bombs the hell out of Iran and the oil price goes ballistic, buy GOLD. But by then it may be too late, so gotta do it right now.
Those Chinese are a randy bunch.
Is that name-calling or compliment? The chinks prefer one-on-one, not in a bunch.
that it’s likely to make any sort of dent in simon’s preconcieved notions, but my mortgage is going on seven years old, and not subprime. Nor am I invested in anything affected by the subprime collapse, except as a secondary effect. It’s not as if the market isn’t affected by the subprime debacle.
Oh, and my house. But it’s hard to tell whether that’s more affected by the collapse of the housing market or by the crumbling mortgage-loan institutions, not that those are entirely separate. My house is still worth much more than I paid for it, though, and I’m not going anywhere anytime soon.
Back to strumming on your subprime harp, I imagine.
Slart, real glad you didn’t get suckered by the barons.
Didn’t ya think of cashing in 20 months back and get a new bootiful bigger one like 20 months from now for the same cash? It was what the suits were all predicting about the housing bubble, and we shouldn’t ALWAYS disbelieve the suits. Unless ya got a 30-year mortgage (RTO is right, now I know what sub-prime is about) which is how so many decent Americans get freaked out and stressed and get owned by the barons. Nevah evah buy a house with less than 70% of your own cash and nevah borrow more than 10 years. The suits will sell you some idea called leverage (rhymes with mortgage) but that works only if the economy is bursting and ya pretty sure house prices are doing a 50 yard dash, then you get your money back double in like 2-3 years and pay off your 80% whats-that-word.
Slart, I’m guessing you were born in April/May in the year of the PIG. That’s not name-calling coz the pig represents prosperity, sincerity, truthfullness and a generally lucky life to the chinks.
financially becoz my hard cash and stocks are like bewteen 10 to 15 millions
And yet you get your history from a children’s book.
Oh and simon, monopoly money doesn’t count.
Uh, uh, TomB. Let me give you a tip.
If you laid out 100k in 2000 for a top-class condo in shanghai and you cashed in in 2005, you get 350k, or 500k if you do it now. Now, if you’re greedy and had grabbed 5 or 10 (like in monopoly), you make 2,000k or 4,000k, and you convert back from chink money to US dollars you make another 15% on top of it. Get it? But you can’t do it if you don’t trust the chinks, like Simon here, and you don’t know where Shanghai or Shenzhen is.
Some people say chink money is like monopoly money and ya bettah believe them coz the chinks have grown their economy at 7-9% every year for the past almost 30 years (no yo yo like we Americans) and our clever USA government is forcing them to make their monopoly money into REAL money vis-a-vis American dollars.
Lessons to be learned. One, nevah disparage monopoly money. Two, have a world-view (like where China is). Three, believe that the barons are screwing you coz your cash is worth a lot less (and less) coz the US debt has blown to pay for all the killing and bombing and the barons had hedged their zillions but not you dumb decent Americans.
Of course, if you bury your head in the sand, stay home forever and spend only in the US, your cash is still OK coz the chinks’ goods has put the lid on American inflation. But if you have a burning desire to visit Sarkozy or his girlfriend or lay a chick in aussie land or shanghai, boy it will cost you. Sub-prime, sub-prime, world-view, world-view, why have you forsaken me?
simon, you are running away like a little coward from a rather straightforward question. I’ll simply restate it so you don’t have to go back:
“As usual, you missed the point. It isn’t that the US Navy (and the rest of the fine PEOPLE in the armed services) was the only organization that was helpful in any way for over a month after the disaster, it is that your vaunted “humanitarian organizations†were totally and utterly useless.”
usual, you missed the point. It isn’t that the US Navy (and the rest of the fine PEOPLE in the armed services) was the only organization that was helpful in any way for over a month after the disaster, it is that your vaunted “humanitarian organizations†were totally and utterly useless.â€Â
Tsunami, you hate your fellow American genuine charitable foundations?
Answer. the. question.
simon, you are running away like a little coward from a rather straightforward question. I’ll simply restate it so you don’t have to go back:
Tsunami, I see you are a stickler for rules. Once one takes up name-calling as a hobby, one’s got to stick with it, or one risks seeming to go off tangent if one stops the name-calling and one cud easily find oneself in a cuckoo house. No offense, simply exhaling my understanding of your psychological profile.
Back to the issue. Hey, ever heard of division of labor, if one can call saving tsunami victims labor. The erstwhile Navy picks you up from the water and the foundations give the money to feed you so that you are where you are now. Why don’t we talk about something even more serious, shall we?
Back to the issue. Hey, ever heard of division of labor, if one can call saving tsunami victims labor. The erstwhile Navy picks you up from the water and the foundations give the money to feed you so that you are where you are now. Why don’t we talk about something even more serious, shall we?
First of all, this is what you said:
TWO, ordinary Americans (not our robber baron government and business-aristocrat-evangelist oligarchy)heals at home and abroad. The CIA tried messing around with the Peace Corp and it died. Those of us who travel or live abroad see the genuine display of affection and welcome extended by people all over the under-developed world to caring, generous and humane ORDINARY Americans, many of whom do not see all the American warts like I do but are not too smug nor blind to fail to judge things on a humane and humanity scale, including their own government and sections of their society. And the feeding and caring come from funding by genuine charitable American foundations, not those politically motivated closet exploiters and killers masquerading as charities. These same type of great ordinary Americans are the same who care for justice at home. Humaneness knows no boundaries.
I see nothing in your “plan” where you mention the armed forces in your “division of labor”.
And interestingly enough, this “division” sounds a whole lot like good americans going in first and doing all the dirty work, clearing the land, rescuing survivors, and taking bullets, while the “humanitarian organizations” ride in later, take their 60% and leave.
BTW, I’ve NEVER gotten a penny from an NGO.
Why don’t we talk about something even more serious, shall we?
Considering that was the basis for much of your rant, I’m comfortable discussing this.
It aptly demonstrates your unseriousness.
don’t we talk about something even more serious, shall we?
Considering that was the basis for much of your rant, I’m comfortable discussing this.
It aptly demonstrates your unseriousness.
Tsunami, I had humbly suggested you go see an optometrist but now I think a ENT specialist is the right guy. Did you see the words MORE serious?
simon, I’m fully aware of your pathetic attempts to change the subject, but it won’t work.
Defending the US Armed Forces as the heroes that they are is possibly the most serious thing I could possibly do, for me and for millions of others that owe them a debt of gratitude.
interestingly enough, this “division†sounds a whole lot like good americans going in first and doing all the dirty work, clearing the land, rescuing survivors, and taking bullets, while the “humanitarian organizations†ride in later, take their 60% and leave.
Tsunami, let’s look at it this way.
If some bad boys dress in (say) green and have a long history of rampaging around, and I also dress in green but is a good boy, do you expect the rampagees to tell me apart from the bad boys?
So, either bad boys shouldn’t dress in green, or boys dressed in green shouldn’t be bad, or I shouldn’t dress in green. Who caused this confusion? The barons, believe me and you.
Y’know, back in the days when the germans and japs were rampaging and the chinks (troops AND civilians) and russians were taking the casualties in millions (in no small way not unhelpful to nor undesired by the yanks’ war effort) and the yanks were also bleeding in the Pacific (including a lot of blacks), the yanks were good boys in green or khaki in the eyes of the chinks (people like Joseph Stilwell and “Mary” Milton Miles).
What happened? The barons and people like McArthur turned it the other way round. They nuked the japs, then turned a badly thrashed and whimpering foe (brutal and crazed killers at that) into America’s bosom lap dogs, and their chink friends into foes just because the chinks were by then under the commies. So, same pattern until today – America’s (or rather the barons’) friends are brutal killers like militaristic japs, saddams, taliban, shah of iran, osama, saudis, etc as long as they serve the barons’ ends.
After 14 years of devastation by the japs (1931-45) and 4 years of civil war (45-49), the chinks were in no way wanting to pick a fight with the USA. But the barons’ geopolitics and geoeconomics had a different plan and vision – domination of the entire Pacific (japs as pacified proxies) reaching up to Japan, Korean peninsula, all the way to the siberian seaboard. So, the korean war. If the communist koreans want to make all of korea commie, that’s their business, just like in vietnam. Nobody condemns America’s civil war (for whatever cause) or taking texas and california from mexico, but the barons now stir shit in taiwan and tibet, etc.
On the other hand, Taliban, Saddam, etc were friends (more like guard dogs fed with american cash and arms and training) but became foes. So, “democracy” made american boys die in korea, vietnam, iraq, etc but it’s money, money, oil, oil, greed, greed, double standards.
Recently, the chinks sentenced and shot the chink FDA top dog for corruption, and over the years a good number of bad guys for serious economic and other crimes to progressively stamp out serious deep-rooted problems but some people cry human rights, IP protection, democracy, etc.
You can’t have your cake and eat it, man.
Amazing.
In that entire rant you completely failed to address the issue (why the US armed forces are so much better at saving lives than humanitarian organizations). But you did rehash a minor nervous breakdown you had last nite.
I defy anyone to find even one mention of the issue.
Go on and find one.
I’ll wait.
More childish history from the children’s history book historian.
Defending the US Armed Forces as the heroes that they are is possibly the most serious thing I could possibly do, for me and for millions of others that owe them a debt of gratitude.
Tsunami, you may be right in terms of individuals but as a tool of war in the hands of the barons, you gonna have a hard time for most of the world to bite.
More childish history from the children’s history book historian.
TomB, I assume you were a child once but you hate kids for something they did to you in school. Just guessing.
More childish history from the children’s history book historian.
TomB, I think I like you more than I like Tsunami. And that’s not because I’m guessing you’re a cute chick (despite your name, which is ORDINARY, which makes you and me have something in common, according to JD) or Tsunami isn’t oozing sex.
You see the big picture and don’t like details, you have a gift for mission statements and the like, etc. But Tsunami is fixated on details. I’m guessing you went to school (got bullied?) but Tsunami dropped out and is self-educated (no history or childrens books whatever). Just guessing.
Hey guys, got to run away and take my morning chow. Don’t wait for me, go ahead to fulfill your day’s mission then come back and we can chat like new friends meeting for the first time.
What I mean is, let history be history, let bygones be by gones, let kids be kids, etc, etc.
Chow.
Just finished a quick chow coz the chick is waiting and she can’t make a difference between day and night when it comes to getting laid but I’m not complaining except that it takes my time away from my friends here.
So a quickie (chat with you, not lay with the chick) while I work up the steam and let the chick moan.
I know where your problem is, Tsunami. It all started with JD using the word ORDINARY (and routine, mundane, common, etc, etc) as a compliment to me. So let’s fixate on the word ORDINARY.
The word ordinary is ordinarily an ordinary compliment to ordinary people like JD and me. But one man’s meat is another man’s poison, as they say.
Next step. To some ordinary people, the word ordinary is NOT ordinary and excludes what is ordinarily ordinary but includes what is not ordinarily ordinary.
Next step. Since what is ordinary is ordinary to some ordinary people, but is not ordinarily ordinary to other ordinary people, we have to move away from the word ordinary and fixate ourselves on the words ordinary people.
Next step. Ordinary people are ordinary by nature but military people are not military by nature but by uniform and uniformity.
Next step. But that does not ordinarily mean that ordinary people are not ordinary people in uniform, or ordinary people when they shed their uniform, or such ordinary people outside of their uniform are no longer or have never been ordinary in the complimentary sense of the word that JD and I share in common.
Last step. So if JD and I include you as ordinary in the ordinarily ordinary sense of the word, it makes the ordinary become ordinary to almost every ordinary person including the ordinary people outside of their ordinary uniform.
Tsunami, if you’re still not satisfied with my definition of ORDINARY, I can’t help you.
Chick’e moaning is killing me. Got to go.
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Guys. lets all just sit back and take a deep breath for a minute, and look at this thing objectively. For now dismiss the Enuendo, Political Spin, and use your talent of reason that all of us were born with.
Both Senators Clinton, and Obama are highly skilled Public Officials, anyone would be a fool to deny it, but there is one unique difference between the two. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about.
A few short years ago both of the Senators made a decision that would have a very profound affect on all of us in several different ways.
Both Senators had to make a crucial decision. Both Senators hadt the exact same evidence under the exact same conditions, but their decisions were as different as Daylight, and Dark.
Senator Clinton decided to take this country and all its people to War in Iraq. While it is true, Senator Clinton has a lot of experience, it’s still just a lot of experience making “Bad Decisions”.
Senator Obama examined the same evidence, and arrived at a much diffent conclusion. His decision was based on sound judgement, and fact. As a result he voted Not to take our country to War with Iraq, and history has proved he corrrect in his decision. Numerous investigations have revealed this.
Given the choice would you choose someone with a lot of experience making “Bad Decisions”, or someone with less experience making Sound, Objective decisions?
I would think the answer is quite clear. For what it’s worth I have a lot to loose by choosing the wrong canidate. I have a Son in Baghdad at this very moment.
Mr Ken, I must agree with you on almost all accounts. You have something very personal and very precious at stake while what is at stake for me is once step removed, so to speak.
But somebody in this thread said the Illinois legislature never called a vote on the Iraq invasion?
Off by more than a year, simon. Not that it matters in the least.
Par for the course, come to think of it.
“Both Senators hadt the exact same evidence under the exact same conditions…”
I thank your son for his service, but you sir are far too ignorant to be attempting any sort of public discourse on these matters.
“Just finished a quick chow coz the chick is waiting and she can’t make a difference between day and night when it comes to getting laid but I’m not complaining except that it takes my time away from my friends here….
Chick’e moaning is killing me. Got to go.”
LOL! It is waaaaay past your bedtime, young man!
I think it’s cute that he says “chick”
Both Senators hadt the exact same evidence under the exact same conditions…â€Â
I thank your son for his service, but you sir are far too ignorant to be attempting any sort of public discourse on these matters.
BMoe, that was very rude of you. At least Slart, TomB, JD, Tsunami, Pablo and all my friends don’t do that – they merely call me nice names, which is not exactly the same because they are my buddies. Mr Ken has a son in active service on the front and you should at least be respectful. Your thanking him is bullshit because you also tried but failed miserably to insult him. Repent, repent, repent, mea culpa, mea culpa.
you know “Mr. Ken”? you have proof he has a son in Baghdad? I don’t buy it myself. but then Ken didn’t make a very cogent argument either. it might help if he could get his facts straight.
for the course, come to think of it.
You play golf, slart? Better stick to calling me names otherwise BMoe will take all the credit.
I wonder if Moe’s a ladies young man or she’s a men’s young lady. If the latter, I think she’s a cute chick and I publicly take back all that I had said about her (hope she can see through my sincerity and we can discuss bedtime, happy hour, prime time and sub-prime while doing it). p.s. the brackets indicate whispering. Just whistling in the dark, man.
never mind the fact that Ken’s a dumbass for thinking it’s going to impress any of us or add weight to his idiotic screed. oh, wait, you apparently fell for it, but then your intelligence level has already been established.
It’s like how every once in awhile how you hear liberal bitch and moan about how Condi is an expert in a country that doesn’t exist anymore. Today’s Middle East academic people are completely in that boat, and that’s a lot why they’re so bent out of shape.
And also when you comment here and quote someone you can use that little key that’s like a “less-than” sign that’s probably like right next to your “m” key and then right after that you can put the word “blockquote” and right after that put a “greater-than” sign – no spaces anywhere – and then you paste in your quote, fix the line breaks, and then after that put the exact same less-than/blockquote/greater-than thing right at the end except with a forward slash in front of the word “blockquote”. This way your quote will look way more quotey. It’s ok if you screw up a few times cause I think it’s a lot like how Americans feel about people who at least try to speak English even if it doesn’t always come out right.
know “Mr. Ken� you have proof he has a son in Baghdad? I don’t buy it myself. but then Ken didn’t make a very cogent argument either. it might help if he could get his facts straight.
RTO’s not here but I guess he won’t get things in his head if I like just speak with his wife.
Maggie, you in the investigative or intelligence business? CIA, FBI, FCCP, RMCT? You have a suspicious intellect (I’m guessing you do some thinking before doing the suspecting) or investigative mind (I’m guessing you do some minding before you do the investigating) and I want to say that both are good attributes from which you will easily progress to a WORLD VIEW and make lots of money at the barons’ expense.
oh. That should be *a liberal.* And that rant about blockquotes I just made up mostly to see if there was a way to describe that without actually doing it. I think maybe if I for real wanted to make that point I would number the steps and have spaces in between lines for each step, but the rest is about as well as you can do I guess.
Happyfeet, you into punctuation research? My word, I’m impressed by your long sentences and their blockquoting qualities.
Condi’s coming out party wasn’t in the Middle East, chicks, bitches and liberals in arab lands are not allowed to moan, but it’s ok if the moaning came out in English (the arabs speak something else, I think) and Condi’s too lightweight to be bent out of shape when you lay her.
BTW, academics did try to get in a boat but the red sea was dry. If Maggie doesn’t believe this, go ask Moses who is the father of western civilisation.
Anyone interested in property in China? Tony Blair was recently paid 5 million bucks (american cash, not chink monopoly money) to visit a big villa-resort 30 minutes so the crazy chink super-rich can boast they live in a villa that smelled of TB’s BO and pay fierce bucks for these TBBO villas. Don’t believe me? Search intelligently on the web for yerself.
What’s in it for you and me? A lot, man, a lot. Tell you later how.
might this involve some shipping containers?
never mind the fact that Ken’s a dumbass for thinking it’s going to impress any of us or add weight to his idiotic screed. oh, wait, you apparently fell for it, but then your intelligence level has already been established.
Maggie, nothing’s established until the fat lady sings and I’m guessing you ain’t singing nor getting fat. Intelligence has no level, perception has – like whether yer lookin up or looking down, looking in or looking out, etc, etc. World view, world view.
might this involve some shipping containers?
Nah. Tell you what, I’ll tell you what. Now, use american-invented technology to screw the chinks. Fix up a real nice photo of TB (preferably smiling) with arms around the TBBO villa purchaser and the villa-purchasing-chink will buy it from you for 10,000 bucks (american cash, not chink monopoly money) and hang it in the bedroom for inspiration when he lays a chick (like so impressive) while his wife or mistress is being laid in someone else’s TBBO villa two streets away.
Small snag tho for head-in-the-sand decent americans – how to get hold of the TBBO villa purchasing chink? Tell you later, that’s where yer got to first believe Simon here, trust him and embrace his world view. Villa developer ain’t gonna help you make money out of his property, man.
Now, Bush never visited, eh. So, do the same for GWB and it’ll fetch 50,000 bucks american cash coz its like GWB visited only MY VILLA, and so on.
You think this is bullshit? I,m into it, man. Many crazy things in the world but it’s ok if its not rampaging and killing.
I think it would be premature to rule out your parents, simon.
That would be me (State Senate, actually), the point being that Obama (an Illionois State Senator at the time) did not vote on the decision to go into Iraq. Mr. Ken is wrong, as was Ms. Kathryn France above. Rebuttal?
would be me (State Senate, actually), the point being that Obama (an Illionois State Senator at the time) did not vote on the decision to go into Iraq. Mr. Ken is wrong, as was Ms. Kathryn France above. Rebuttal?
Chick was all warm and wet all night. Boy, it shows being ordinary works fine round the clock, day or night, summer or winter. It’s in fact extraordinary, if Tsunami doesn’t mind me adding a prefix to ordinary, and so on.
Good morning.
Pablo, I ain’t into rebuttal or any other kind of butts, coz I always prefer doing things upfront, if you can imagine what I’m trying to say after a long night.
Since we have been introduced to punctuation and big words like mortgage and sub-prime, I wanna expand on our common vocab and fixate and FAQs and frequently used words that keep popping up in this thread – like what about we talk about RANT or RANTING.
How much of this Presidential Election is rant or ranting? It worked for McCain in NH, that closet liberal. Unlike me, he’s too old and feeble to nuke Iran, I can assure you. Yet he goes on as if that’s what we decent Americans will lap it up just like we did Bush’s Iraq WMD. But Bingo! McCain won NH. It goes to show that whether Mr Ken’s genuine or not is immaterial and whether Barry O voted or not is also immaterial. What’s material is that the rant must work, like ranting for change and so on.
Now, we Americans are quite used to ranting, here in this thread (including Simon here as most of you seem keen to insist) and wherever we think people will believe us, no matter that sometimes chicks like Maggie dont wanna believe boys like Mr Ken. So, give and take, this Presidential Election will go to whoever rant best and loudest, I’ll bet my shoes.
Funny thing is, every four years there’s a ranting contest using more and more of our hard-earned money. After all my ranting, MY REAL QUESTION IS ARE AMERICANS REALLY THAT STUPID? Barry O rants about changing American democracy to American democracy and 36& of NH folk bite. McCain rants about exporting american democracy to Iran and a whole bunch of NH folk bite, not to talk about GWB ranting about exporting ditto to Iraq and a whole bunch took that hook and line.
But nobody rants about nuking the saudis first and exporting ditto there. I tell you, if we did that, 9/11 will never happen again and many who now hate us will love us, although the closet liberals will moan (liberals and chicks can moan in arab lands after we’ve nuked the saudis) something like father forgive them coz they know not what they do.
What I’m really really saying is that while one may disagree with Mr Ken’s imaginary yardsticks and ranting, all he’s trying to focus on and wake us up is to pay attention to the quality of the rant and not the ranter, the quality of the change and not the changer, the quality of the ditto and not the dittoer. After all, the chinks have their own quality and brand (the chinks have learnt the power of brands and branding but not rant and ranting) of democracy.
Or not, simon. Or not.
Pablo, what yer asking? Can’t see the first couple of your words.
Anyway, the rantees must ask the ranter what exactly gonna change, that’s addressing the quality of the rant.
Now, here’s the problem. The ranter may say I’m gonna give you better health care, keep out the immigrants, more money in your pockets, bomb so-and-so, don’t bomb so-and-so, take the boys home, don’t take the boys home. Mixed up with all this is whether the ranter chokes or weeps while ranting, so it’s all very confusing to the rantees coz the rantees have heard all this before like back in 2004, 2000 and all the way back to when God first created America.
Now, the hardest part is when the ranter says he/she gonna change the SYSTEM, which may include the Washington system, the Bush system, the health system, the tax system, the security system, the world system, and all kinds of system down to the plumbing of your sub-prime mortgaged house.
So it’s still up to the rantees, and the rantees have this God-created habit of taking the ranters’ words to rant against one another. So, the ranting goes on until the ranter with the most money and baron friends gets in the door (if he/she is not shot dead first).
So, I’m like thinking the rantees could like first forget about the rants they’d been hearing since God created America, like have mass amnesia, like all the systems shut down, all the lights went out, like all the thinking went out, all the boxes went out, so they can like think out of the box coz there aint no more boxes.
Now, when all the air has gone out, the breathing will take over from the amnesia which is like now taking the back seat, so to speak. But why should the rantees do all this? Coz all the years of rant and ranting never worked, and we are like kind of still in deja vu land.
Now, here’s the hard part. Since we Americans have been doing a lot of exporting and too little importing or hardly any, including democracy and ditto, our balance of payments should be very healthy but shit it ain’t! Why? Coz it’s we export politics and import economics, but we nevah import any politics and export enough economics, and its economics that produce the balance of payment numbers. Now, the barons prefer to export politics and import economics, coz that’s how it works for them. They ain’t really bothered with the BOP coz plus or minus still means the American system will lurch along like yo yo but it won’t really sink (at least not in their lifetime, they think).
So, the rantees should just agree on one thing – stop exporting politics, democracy and ditto of the American variety and I assure you the health care system and all other systems down to your plumbing will eventually cure themselves. Now, the test is WHICH RANTER WILL AGREE WITH THE RANTEES ON THIS? If none, we Americans risk not having a CIC come Jan 2009, which may not be a bad thing.
You see, when the russians tried for years to export commie democracy, they got into the shits. The chinks didn’t really export ditto (they don’t have a history of rampaging around too far from their borders) so much as they tried a bit of arms-length back-seat exporting around southeast asia, but they also got some shit. So, the chinks are smarter now – they’d rather stay home with their own brand of commie democracy, grow fat on this you-mind-your-biz-I-mind-mine irresponsible attitude, and lay their chicks everyday everynight and become, as you say Pablo, a RANDY BUNCH (they still prefer one-on-one, but there are so many of them chinks that one chink can look like a bunch to a non-chink).
World view, world view.
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