Fonda: “There was a time in the late 60s when Morningside Heights was like, a total hotbed of political activity — a place where the Black Power movement met up with cultural aestheticians, avant garde artists, young intellectuals, and far east gurus, to form a kind of intense porridge of love, idealism, and militant activism.
“Which never really amounted to much politically, in retrospect — but at the time, that’s where Nicholson and Oates and I would hang out whenever we felt like escaping the bourgeois poison of Nixon’s America. Or when we felt like smoking ghetto weed and tasting ourselves some of that fine brown sugar.”
“Which, let’s face it: you just couldn’t find that in Sausalito.”
“Ahmanihoweveritsspelled”
Ahmadinnerjacket
Please, sir, may I have some more intense porridge?
Now you’re cooking with . . . buffalo.
“Ahmanihoweveritsspelledâ€Â
Ahmadinnerjacket
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (D., Teheran)
I call Bullsh*t! Fonda would never have said that. I’m thinking more along the lines of “snotty literature majors” or “badly dressed short story writers” or just “bony asses.”
Mmmmmmmmm….. ghetto weed …
cultural aesthetician = wanker with a goatee
avant garde artist = wanker with a goatee and a collage
young intellectual = wanker with a goatee and a copy of “Nausea”
far east guru = Ted Haggart in a nehru jacket
intense porridge of love, idealism, and militant activism = gut-wrenching borefest of bad sex, nihilism and loudmouthed gasbaggery
Pity hd ruined it all by making so much money.
It’s only a Free Speech Issue when it doesn’t resemble, word for word, what mideastern sociopaths say.
Then its patriotic. And hence, protected. Which is, you know, keeping democracy intact.
Ghetto Weed Insight #43
Spider monkeys’ thumbs are shaped like Peter Fonda’s head.
My God, Fonda is an absolute dumbshit. He’s almost as stupid as his retarded sister.
What’s great though is that his retarded sister is happier than she has ever been since last being happier than she had ever been.
Progressive.
Dude:
Just caught your latest role in Wild Hogs.
Bitchin’.
Yesterday, a search for “gay iran” on foxnews.com gave no meaningful results. Today they had a front page graphic on it and many more results. All thanks to Achmaninejads national-scale larry craig (We’re not gay! We have never been gay!), the person who asked the question, and Columbia university.
Foxnews did also add that the two youths who were hanged were accused not just of homosexuality, but also of sexually assaulting a minor. Which I don’t think is a capital crime for any of foxnew’s target audience.
Brown sugar is like…..so fuckin’ grrrroooovy man.
Re: andy
Oh my lord, it appears that one of our friendly neighborhood trolls has brought in some sloppily mined ore from Bravo mine in the Sierra Mountains.
Jest aside,oh who am I kidding. I must jest in dissecting this post so I can laugh to keep from crying.
Simply put,your strawman regarding Fox is absurd beyond the point of…well, any point it’s possible for absurdity to be beyond. It’s just that absurd, moppet. I take your point, if we can name anything so dull a point, to be that the only news site that Conservatives visit is Fox News, and that they wouldn’t learn anything about what is outside the USA any other way.
Suffice it to say that no conservatives I know rely only on Fox News for their information about the world. There are plenty of other excellent conservative sources on the world, and, gasp, we sometimes frequent sites run by the MSM. Shock and horrors!
Iran’s history (and, might I add, the funadmentalist Moslem world’s history) of brutality against those of the homosexual bent is well-documented, it’s not as if Ahmadinejad’s denying it was some great shock to informed American society, which, horror of horrors again, does include a fair number of conservatives, the bombast and arrogance of your leftist elites on the subject of conservative intelligence notwithstanding.
The Larry Craig point of your post is just too silly to touch, so I will let it slide.Frankly, my dear Scarle…I mean andy,you should count yourself lucky that I don’t give a damn about that part of your post.
Finally, you note that the two youths were accused of homosexuality and of sexually assaulting a minor, and were hanged for it, and go on to say that you don’t think that’s a capital crime for any of Fox’s target audience.
What, pray tell, was this supposed to mean? Newsflash, moppet, sexual assault of a minor is not a capital crime for the US as a whole, I have yet to hear of a child molester being sentenced to death in the country for quite some time, if ever in my lifetime. In fact, I am sure it never happened.
I think you already knew this, and were trying to tar the Fox’s audience of being somehow “okay” with child molestation. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me, but if I’m right, then see my above paragraph about child molestation not being a capital crime in the US as a whole? Would you mean by extension that the US is a nation addicted to kiddy porn, with slavering, evil money-grubbing, big-mac eating Americans getting fat on selling children into prostitution? If this is the case, then let me be the first to invite you to go stick your cranium into your rectum and go merrily rolling along out of here.
brown frown?
“Suffice it to say that no conservatives I know rely only on Fox News for their information about the world.”
Same here. I don’t know anyone, in fact, that relies on the MSM cable news and its websites for information about the world. But Foxnews they did make the decision that there was news value for their audience here. I don’t know exactly why people read foxnews.com, but I don’t think it is to find out what they already know. MSM Cable news viewers may not be up to date on all the things in the world that are “well-documented.” So you can see why they find news value in showing things that are well documented. Like this not-so recently killing in Iran — I wonder if they ran it when it happenned?
“What, pray tell, was this supposed to mean? Newsflash, moppet, sexual assault of a minor is not a capital crime for the US as a whole, I have yet to hear of a child molester being sentenced to death in the country for quite some time, if ever in my lifetime.”
I agree. I also suspect that this is the way that foxnew’s audience wants it. Or do you think they think that such a crime should be eligible for the death penalty?
I know people who get their news from tv. They’re pretty old though. They like that nice Larry King mostly.
Re andy
no, I most definitely don’t think it should be. Glad to see we’re on the same page with that, at least.
What kind of drugs is andy on?
And I’d be willing to bet that the gay youths hanged until dead in Iran had sexually assaulted a minor in about the same way as the last underage rape victim who was stoned to death in Iran was guilty of adultery.
Don’t even call those young men child molesters.
– Ok. So yet another brain dead BDS riddled troll to toss on the “teh stupid” sockpuppets bonfire.
– Bush may be a plain browm wrapper personage, but bless his “border, what border?” dear soul, at least he never shot himself in the ass with a granade launcher. Twice. In a magic hat.
You guys will enjoy this:
The Telegraph:
In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN.
“I felt it myself too,” Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. “I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It’s not an exaggeration, because I was looking.
“They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic.”
“And I’d be willing to bet that the gay youths hanged until dead in Iran had sexually assaulted a minor in about the same way as the last underage rape victim who was stoned to death in Iran was guilty of adultery.”
Foxnews didn’t really make that clear to me or their audience. We’ll have to wait till next time their president is in the US.
What’s sad IS the number of people that do get their “news” from The Daily Show. Disingenious at best, cynical at its worst.
And Fonda hasn’t been to Sausalito lately. Both are in abundence now. What a difference 40 years make.
“What’s sad IS the number of people that do get their “news†from The Daily Show.”
I watch the daily show. But I don’t get my news that way. I’d guess its the same with most others. Aren’t daily show watchers more informed than others? I think that is because they learn from the daily show. Rather i think its that they watch it because they are already informed.
“I think that is because they learn from the daily show”
That should be “I don’t think that is because they learn from the daily show.”
Dude, you have /serious/ issues. God bless.
– andy….you need a little dose of fresh air. You sound more than a bit confused.
– Download a copy of that rape victin….you know the one, I’m sure you do….yes that one…the one you keep looking past because gee golly that just can’t be the fault of a beloved cult figure…..But download it anyway.
– Look at her face and notice the horror in her eyes, knowing she is about to be stoned to death for having the timerity to let herself get raped. Look at it closely andy. Then ask yourself if you really want to get anywhere near a group that thinks the asshole that believes this is devine justice is a righteous dude.
– If you still want to hang with the soft Marxists after that andy, my advice would be to get yourself to some professional help.
“Download a copy of that rape victin”
Do they have it on foxnews.com, or am I going to have to wait till achmniwhatshiface comes back?
– Here you go andy….we’re nothing if not helpful here in the VRWC of classical Liberals cess pool….no thanks necessary….
I’m wondering why you havent yet gotten the idea that this isn’t news to me. That I’m praising actions which lead to the MSM’s voicing of the repressive and unprogressive actions of Iran that people round here are satisfied to know are well documented or otherwise hosted by bloggers.
– So we have then one, maybe two examples of real world facts versus 10’s of thousands of Bush bashing truthiness for the ever Left faithful legacy press, and you’re all agush. Congratulations.
So I talk about foxnews and then this turns into left faithful press? You make no sense.
“…You make no sense.”
– Yes, I can understand your deer eyes in the headlights dilema. Its tough when the ballon went up, and no one cared to alert you.
– By the way, since we’re on the subject of FOX, someone should whisper in CNN’s ear and tell them to be careful when they report Soros driven moonbat drival and lies, they should not make Juan Williams the target of their propeganda. He’s been a regular trooper for the Left in that FOX news den of right wingmuts. Not nice.
Juan did a book on race this year that was sorta kinda provocative to old guard lefties is all I know.
– What I was referring to feets, is the yanking of Williams interview with Bush an current race relation conditions from NPR, apparently because they felt it showed Bush in to favorable of a light. At this point the words partisan, and biased do not do the usual suspects among the Left water-bearing press justice. they are simple gone Left agog. I don’t think it will save them. Then Willians went ballistic when he saw the re-broadcasting of Soros kiddies lies eight off the websire, and they knew it before they went to press. A hit piece on Sharpton and O’Reilly discussing racial questions un which Bill defended Black Americans, but they distorted it and made it look like he was being racist. Juan didn’t like that. you know, the Dems fight like vicious dogs whenever they think the blacks are about to jetison the “victim” card and wander off the reservation. Hence no race dialog is permitted, or they start vibrating, and trot out the big lie to head such blasphemy off at the pass.
– The Left hates the prospect of the demise of the MSM down to rags like the Enquirer, because they know they enjoy no such monopoly on the net.
andy – Change your dosage.
Marin County has an import/export trade imbalance when it comes to weed and brown sugar.
One word.
Oakland.
Problem solved.
Peter Fonda was great in 3:10 to Yuma, though. Jeff, have you seen it yet? (the new one, I mean)
Or do you think they think that such a crime should be eligible for the death penalty?
Judging by O’Reilly’s almost nightly rants against child molesters and child predators, I would say yes. Or. at the very least, life without parole and let them suffer inmate justice.
– “inmate justice” does have a nice ring to it.
Hey, I love Sausalito!
Are Sausalitos the Mexican verion of those annoying little mini-weiners that people have served as appetizers since 1972, and nobody really eats until the host has run out of all of the good food?
Snausea.
Here’s a question — you’ve harped on the lack of coverage of Iran’s repression on Fox, have you looked into how much coverage CNN, ABC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC have given it?
You might also want to dig into how much coverage CNN gave to Saddam’s repression. I seem to recall there being something about their coverage being less than forthcoming…
I had my doubts as to whether The Daily Show viewers were smarter, but after reading comments 25 and 26 by Einstein McMensa, I propose that we retool our government to give full control to The Comedy Channel and their esteemed viewers.
“I agree. I also suspect that this is the way that foxnew’s [sic] audience wants it. Or do you think they think that such a crime should be eligible for the death penalty?”
Nancy Grace is on CNN Headline News, not Fox
!!FOX NEWS IS TEH THUGLICAN TEMPLATE FOR PROPAGANDA!!
Andy, I’m just trying to save you some broad brushing time. Time is precious, you know.
Are you accusing andy of being an alphie sockpuppet?
Wow! A deadlier insult for a blogger I cannot imagine.
Come on, andy! Are you going to take that sitting down … er … standing up?
Which one? Alphie or sockpuppet?
Hey Big Bang – thanks for that – I completely missed that cause no one tells me like anything. Here’s a link for that Juan Williams thing. This should be a much blogged about thing today I would think, but so far not much out of the gate.
sorry there … here is Memeorandum’s stuff so far
Mr. Fonda has lost his mind.Mabye he never had one.Yes that’s it.
fine brown sugar – smack or ghetto ho’s?
“Which, let’s face it: you just couldn’t find that in Sausalito.”
Shoulda tried Tiburon, dude.
Haven’t seen it yet, maybee. Will when it comes out on DVD.
I like Fonda as an actor. Ever see his Hired Hand?
Big fan of Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry, too.
“Here’s a question  you’ve harped on the lack of coverage of Iran’s repression on Fox, have you looked into how much coverage CNN, ABC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC have given it?”
I posted on another thread about it. Searching foxnews for ‘gay iran’ didn’t yield any good hits. On CNN.com, they linked to outside websites that featured the story of the 2. The point was that us informed bloggers may know about all things ‘well documented.’ But the MSM doesn’t really share that with their flock. But now that achwhatshisface has his larry craig moment, they do.
I understand people’s concerns that he be legitimized. That he be treated as well as Kruschev was when he visited. Its just that I think this actually de-legitimitizes
“In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN…”
That allegedly transcendent moment happened at A’jad’s 2005 UN appearance, shortly after he had been “elected” President of Iran.
His speech yesterday was actually one of his better ones. I didn’t observe any would be “rapture” moments.
Addressing an audience that was not the one (physically) in front of him, A’jad laid out the alignment issue at the basis for what he is trying to create in the Middle East, a new bloc to counter the old post WW II European/American bloc to become the replacement for the center of the universe and leadership on the planet.
With Iran, naturally, the Big Cheese, although he didn’t specifically mention that.
Iran’s meddling in Iraq is part of that agenda, not to mention Iran’s supply and sponsorship of Hezbollah in Lebanon and supply and support for Hamas in the Palestinian territories.
(While Hezbollah, backed by Syria, is really trying to screw up Lebanese politics and just last week assassinated yet another anti-Syrian Lebanese guy and is using its political representation in Lebanese Parliament to screw up the choice of any new President that might be anti-Syrian)
(Peter, as quoted above, sounds just like a modern day Columbia élitist)
After everything is said and done in this election, a few insightful folks may soon recognize the Iraq War as the most serious thing threatening the future of the USA. I hope your readers have read New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson’s op/ed piece from the Washington Post on how and why we must get out of Iraq, from two weeks ago.If not, here it is, in full, after one introductory remark by me:
There is a much larger scale confrontation with Bush from the candidates regarding the Iraq War and the problems it is continuing to cause, after six years of Halliburton and Brown and Root and Blackwater corporate kleptocracy. Only one candidate, it is abundantly clear to me, is really slamming the truth and providing the logistics and rationale for ending this disastrous war: Bill Richardson. This article was printed in the Washington Post and please take the time to read it:
_______________________
Why We Should Exit Iraq Now
By Bill Richardson
Saturday, September 8, 2007; A15
Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards have suggested that there is little difference among us on Iraq. This is not true: I am the only leading Democratic candidate committed to getting all our troops out and doing so quickly.
In the most recent debate, I asked the other candidates how many troops they would leave in Iraq and for what purposes. I got no answers. The American people need answers. If we elect a president who thinks that troops should stay in Iraq for years, they will stay for years  a tragic mistake.
Clinton, Obama and Edwards reflect the inside-the-Beltway thinking that a complete withdrawal of all American forces somehow would be “irresponsible.†On the contrary, the facts suggest that a rapid, complete withdrawal  not a drawn-out, Vietnam-like process â€â€would be the most responsible and effective course of action.
Those who think we need to keep troops in Iraq misunderstand the Middle East. I have met and negotiated successfully with many regional leaders, including
Saddam Hussein. I am convinced that only a complete withdrawal can sufficiently shift the politics of Iraq and its neighbors to break the deadlock that has been killing so many people for so long.
Our troops have done everything they were asked to do with courage & professionalism, but they cannot win someone else’s civil war. So long as American troops are in Iraq, reconciliation among Iraqi factions is postponed. Leaving forces there enables the Iraqis to delay taking the steps to end the violence. And it prevents us from using diplomacy to bring in other nations to help stabilize and rebuild the country.
The presence of American forces in Iraq weakens us in the war against al- Qaeda. It endows the anti-American propaganda of those who portray us as occupiers plundering Iraq’s oil and repressing Muslims. The day we leave, this myth collapses, and the Iraqis will drive foreign jihadists out of their country. Our departure would also enable us to focus on defeating the terrorists who attacked us on Sept. 11, those headquartered along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border  not in Iraq.
Logistically, it would be possible to withdraw in six to eight months. We moved as many as 240,000 troops into and out of Iraq through Kuwait in as little as a three-month period during major troop rotations. After the Persian Gulf War, we redeployed nearly a half-million troops in a few months. We could redeploy even faster if we negotiated with the Turks to open a route out through Turkey.
As our withdrawal begins, we will gain diplomatic leverage. Iraqis will start seeing us as brokers, not occupiers. Iraq’s neighbors will face the reality that if they don’t help with stabilization, they will face the consequences of Iraq’s collapse  including even greater refugee flows over their borders and possible war.
The United States can facilitate Iraqi reconciliation and regional cooperation by holding a conference similar to that which brought peace to Bosnia. We will need regional security negotiations among all of Iraq’s neighbors and discussions of donations from wealthy nations  including oil-rich Muslim countriesâ€â€to help rebuild Iraq. None of this can happen until we remove the biggest obstacle to diplomacy: the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq.
My plan is realistic because:
It is less risky. Leaving forces behind leaves them vulnerable. Would we need another surge to protect them?
It gets our troops out of the quagmire and strengthens us for our real challenges. It is foolish to think that 20,000 to 75,000 troops could bring peace to Iraq when 160,000 have not. We need to get our troops out of the crossfire in Iraq so that we can defeat the terrorists who attacked us on Sept. 11.
By hastening the peace process, the likelihood of prolonged bloodshed is reduced. President Richard Nixon withdrew U.S. forces slowly from Vietnamâ€â€with disastrous consequences. Over the seven years it took to get our troops out, 21,000 more Americans and perhaps a million Vietnamese, most of them civilians, died. All this death and destruction accomplished nothing  the communists took over as soon as we left.
My position has been clear since I entered this race: Remove all the troops and launch energetic diplomatic efforts in Iraq and internationally to bring
stability. If Congress fails to end this war, I will remove all troops without delay, and without hesitation, beginning on my first day in office.
Let’s stop pretending that all Democratic plans are similar. The American people deserve precise answers from anyone who would be commander in chief. How many troops would you leave in Iraq? For how long? To do what, exactly? And the media should be asking these questions of candidates, rather than allowing them to continue saying, “We are against the war . . . but please don’t read the small print.â€Â
The writer is governor of New Mexico and a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Clean up on aisle one! Cut-and-paster dumping waste in the thread!
Wow!
That above is the best possible reason for pushing Runnin’ Richardson to the back of the line for consideration. With Kucinich. And the average dancing monkey! Good luck with that, Steve!
but, BJTexs, he negotiated with Sadaam Hussein. Successfully!
and then I quit reading, cause I don’t have that kind of time to waste at lunch.
BLASPHEMER!!!
Hmmm. Apparently when one is logged in, it doesn’t matter what name one puts in the comment form. The above was supposed to be from “Al Gore.”
‘Cause, you know, he’d have a completely different idea of what is the most serious threat.
McGehee:
Really? How so?
Jeff, I’ve never seen either of those. I was under the mistaken impression that I didn’t care for Fonda. I definitely didn’t want to see 3:10 to Yuma, but my husband bought tickets for the family to see it at the ArcLight in Cinerama.
I loved it and was impressed with the cast, including Fonda. I’ll have to look for your suggestions now. They’ll be something I can watch with the boys.
Well, unless the Iraq war is causing all those blizzards everywhere he goes to speak…
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