Via MEMRI, a clip from a Hamas music video featuring the line, “In black bags, chunks of flesh of Jews.†Which, I suppose, is not far off from the kind of grisly anti-establishment wish-fulfillment anthem Ice-T once made famous with his “Cop Killer,” or the kind of post-apocalyptic ironic angst Nena cashed in on in two languages with “99 Luftballoons” — with the exception that, well, Hamas wouldn’t consider themselves edgy for promulgating such images. More like righteous and holy, in fact. Which speaks to a certain pathology of religious zeal.
— Or rather, it would, were I in any position to offer such a critique. Unfortunately, my having been inscribed by western liberalism prevents me from doing so legitimately — and in fact opens me up to charges of being a hater. So take it for what it’s worth.
Still, as Jules Crittenden notes, there’s a fly in the Hamas’ charred Jew-flesh ointment:
Coming out of the beseiged, isolated rubble of Gaza, with considerably more Fatah and Hamas blood than Israeli blood pooled in its gutters, [the lyrics are] odious but a little ridiculous. Try “Hamas, Hamas, squashed grape of Araby!â€Â
Triumphalist? Certainly. But so long as one is going for poetic verisimilitude, Crittenden’s re-imagining seems more on point.
Though had he really wanted to go whole hog (Allah forbid), he would have had Jews bottling that blood and folding it into their Purim pastries.
Though I guess it’s possible Jim Moran or Wesley Clark might finish that thought for him.
I don’t understand. Is Jew flesh kosher for Muslims?
Hamas can’t pick up the garbage, supply water or food, or pay anybody but it can produce music videos?
Obviously, they need to be hammered a bit more. Move up the 155’s…
Anything that will make more noise, mojo. The louder you are, the more important you are.
[feedback, tuning sounds]
All right. You ready, Johnny? Okay. This song is about the night I slept in a dumpster behind a nail salon on 6th Avenue. It’s called “I Don’t Wanna Sleep In A Dumpster Behind A Nail Salon On 6th Avenue With You No More.” 1-2-3-4!
In black bags /
etc.
I prefer Nick Drake’s timeless anti-Muslim extremist piece, Pink Moon.
I saw it written and I saw it say
Pink moon is on its way
And none of you
Filthy Fascist Muslim Fanatics
stand so tall
Pink moon gonna get you all
It’s a pink moon
Hey, it’s a pink moon
It’s a pink, pink, pink, pink, pink moon.
It’s a pink, pink, pink, pink, pink moon.
Good for selling Volkswagons too.
I would think it would depend on the method of slaughter.. I think death by explosive vest detonated by a psychotic suicide bomber renders the flesh Not-Halal ..
Hamas is also famous for staging “situations” for the benefit of TV cameras and crews, who then dutifully show them on American & western TV.
You know, where the dead guy stands up after the (camera) shoot.
This video (dated 2 days ago) is dedicated at the end to the palestinian and arab community of Sweden, where the diehards are currently trying to hunt down the cartoonist Lars Vilks, Al Qaeda having offered $100 grand for his death.
Upon reading the title, I was sure this post would be about Columbia U. Imagine my surprise and delight upon learning that there’s plenty more intolerance for those intolerant of intolerance to tolerate!
“Wrote a song about it, wanna hear it? Here it is…”
Which speaks to a certain pathology of religious zeal.
 Or rather, it would, were I in any position to offer such a critique. Unfortunately, my having been inscribed by western liberalism prevents me from doing so legitimately
Not that it needs to be said againâ€â€and since when did that ever stop me from pontificatingâ€â€but the zeal they are consumed by is hardly religious, at least not in the strictest sense, but rather ignited by intense shame and the desire to shed blood to cleanse it.
The whole Western infidel world, with its skyrocketing success, and especially those filthy Jooos, who are successful right in their faces, have shamed the True Warriors of Allah, and someone must pay.
So, those chunks of Joooo flesh weigh a pound or what?
“I Don’t Wanna Sleep In A Dumpster Behind A Nail Salon On 6th Avenue With You No More.â€Â
– I think I caught that cut the other night at Humphries… that new Hamas rock group “Pimp my Mahammud”. They have an album coming out called “Music by dead brown guys”.
Why are mighty nations and wanna-be states in such an uproar, and their people working so hard for emptiness? Princes and party leaders make a big show of taking their stand, and they conspire in back rooms, or even out in the open, against God himself and his Annointed. “The meta-narrative they’re forcing on us is a patriarchal, parochial, intolerant oppression. Who does this God guy think he is, anyway? He isn’t even there – except in your inner-subjective-personal narrative construct, which, by the way, don’t even mention it to me, because that would be oppression, too.”
God, chuckling: “Pppfffft! Watch this, suckers!”
Me: “Ahhhh, Lord? Mmm, these guys really scare me. Help?”
God: “No worries. Trust me on this.”
—- My mis-translation of Ps. 2:1-5, Ps. 6:2, 9, & 10.
T&T
I didn’t realize that intense shame and the desire to shed blood to cleanse it were not features of religion. Given the history of monotheism, I thought they were its dominant features. I guess “real religion” was only discovered in the past 200-250 years.
Ards,
Ouch! Of course, that’s a common mis-perception (hrumphh, hrumphh), that we religionificationists have explained – somewhere – let me see, where did I put that reference … – Ah, here it … no, that’s the chicken salad recipe.
In case of confusion, refer to Jesus, let him sort it out.
;-P T&T
1) Let’s take back that state we gave them. Kind of like revoking the driver’s license of someone who’s run down a few dozen too many schoolchildren.
2) There are two essentially false memes starting on this thread,
A) That religion in general can be blamed for Jihadi excesses, and
B) That jihadi excesses can somehow be divorced from Islam.
Sadly, that seems to be what the discussion breaks down into, the false argument over whether Islam is responsible, and the false argument over whether religion is good or bad.
This is a mere distraction from the task at hand, which is killing jihadis until the remaining few sympathizers decide that their lifestyle is just too darned dangerous, and take up knitting or making model trains (for Allah) or something.
“religion” is the excuse, not the reason for “jihadi excesses”
A certain interpretation of Islam is used as the rationale or justification for “jihadi excesses”
These Muslims Against Shari’a (Mohammed himself mighta had a little problem with many aspects of what “shari’a” has morphed into over the centuries…)
Anyway, these MAS have determined which parts of the Koran (aka “the literal word of God”) would have to be excised, quite a chunk
http://www.reformislam.org/verses.php
– Perfect response to Jama-ha-ha-dinner-fuckforks requested visit here.
I’m all for the task at hand.
I’ll give Goya the last word on the other debate.
Most people don’t have the stomach for it. In the old days, with slow communications, they didn’t get in the way of the people who did. And thus, bad and good things happened.
Now, people stand in front of the armies and shout “stop!” The bad armies, they keep rolling. The good armies, they stop.
Pacifism can’t help but achieve the opposite of its goals, because only the good guys will hold off.
War is never about religion, it’s about domination. It’s about, “Who’s in control: us or them?” How we determine who is Us and who is Them can take on any number of permutationsâ€â€along religious, linguistic, national, ideological, lifestyle, economic, racial, ethnic linesâ€â€but the line isn’t what causes the war: it’s the desire of one side to conquer the other.
There are hundreds of religious beliefs floating around this melting pot of ours, and nobody’s going to war over the doctrine of the Trinity because none of the parties feels the need to control or eliminate the other. Europeans may have seemed to fight over it, but again, those wars were all about who would be in control.
You can’t get rid of war by getting rid of differences. You get rid of it by eliminating the human will to dominate and control. Good luck with that.
dicentra – agreed that war/violence won’t be eliminated completely while humans are human, my point earlier could be restated as:
The doctrine of the Trinity doesn’t state that everyone who doesn’t submit should be killed, nor is it interpreted that way.
The world is going to have to come to grips with the core “eliminationist” doctrines of Islam, period. I had some vague idea of the history of the thing until I really started studying it after 9/11… Islam AND is subsets have been at war with the world for 1400 years (sometimes slow burn, sometimes fast burn).
There have obviously been many exceptions to that rule, individuals, communities, even countries more than willing to live at peace… for a time. But when your faith is handed down to you in terms of domination and bloodshed, and your “preachers” compete with each other in a sort of “free market” race toward ideological purity, you’re always going to end up at the same place.
Islam is both qualitatively and structurally different than other major faiths – and it is designed to resist reform (though it has managed to split into sects, they follow much of the same core doctrine).
They need some kind of major reformation – but how do you reform a decentralized faith that has “innovation in religion is a sin” built into its precepts?
A thorny one, that.
To sum up, my point is we judge other cultures by our own historical experience (we can’t help it), and cultures are different. Sure, basic human nature is the same, but different cultures suppress and encourage different behaviors, and that’s one of the reasons we keep being surprised when we make some peace deal with the Palestinians and they keep firing rockets into Israel 24/7 – they really don’t give a shit what we say or do, ’cause we’re infidels, they’re not required to honor agreements with us.
But our dumb-ass kindergarten State Department stammers and says “Uhhh, why didn’t that work? Let’s do the exact same thing again and see if it works this time!”
I work with computers and networking, and I see people repeating an error over and over, hoping for a different result, every day. It’s another one of those basic flaws in human nature.