On April 23, 2006, CBS’s “60 Minutes” interviewed Tyler Drumheller, the former CIA chief of clandestine operations for Europe, who disclosed that the agency had received documentary intelligence from Naji Sabri, Saddam’s foreign minister, that Saddam did not have WMD.
And I can provide documentary evidence proving the non-existence of the Snark.
Sid wants to get the press focused away from the Hsu thing.
Let’s assume for a moment that this gentleman was in possession of the above referenced documents. Why would it take him this long to actually produce them? I think this is the same guy that claims to have caught the Snipe.
Also, people know Hillary is a crook. Nothing new here. They either don’t care, or they already don’t trust her.
Actually, EG, the interesting thing is where the money’s coming from–a subject on which many people might require a refresher.
Sid is such a reliable little stooge.
God, but how does the little worm wake up in the morning and look at himself in the mirror. To actually go through life as Hillary Clinton’s bitch and know that everyone in town knows that that’s your role in life!
Que lastima!
Oh, Saddam’s foreign minister passed a note to the CIA stating that Saddam didn’t have WMD, and this proved Saddam didn’t have WMD? Okay, sure, I’ll buy that. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I mean, you talk about a reliable, inside source… the only person whose word you could take more at face value would have been Saddam himself. Now if Saddam had told the CIA that he didn’t have WMD, *that* would have been a slam dunk.
What would this “documentation” look like?
__________________________________________________________
To Whom it May Concern,
This is a note to document the presence of WMDs in Iraq.
We don’t got any.
And could you please excuse Qusay next Tues.? He has an orthodontist appointment.
Yours in Terror (but without WMDs),
Saddam
Documentary proof of a negative?
Boy, those guys are good!…
From an interested party, no less. It’s like Hillary issuing a statement that there was nothing improper about Hsu’s fund-raising. Or Sandy Berger making a sworn statement that he didn’t destroy any important documents.
Oh, and any such “evidence” ignores the UN reports stating quite clearly that tons of material had never been accounted for.
Granted, it’s a toss-up as to whether Saddam’s government or the UN are less trust-worthy, but…
“Sid wants to get the press focused away from the Hsu thing.” Roger that! Like in Roger Daltry.
Turns out Hsu lived in Soho and The Who’s (or should I say The Hsu’s) great song “Hsu Are You” contains the lines: “I woke up in a Soho doorway/A policeman knew my name” And Bill was known not to inhale while seated between Pete and Roger during his Oxford years. Pictures later. But even if no one picks up on all these obvious clues, I kinda think (okay ardently hope) this is gonna be big. Some Deep Throat eventually will kneel down and really give it to them in the end.
Anyway. “Well, Hsu are you? (Hsu are you? Hsu, Hsu, Hsu, Hsu?”
Off topic: Sid’s vicious. And a dork.
Many lap dogs are.
What an embarrassment for Hillary [Tsk!]. Not pardoning Hsu is starting to look like a huge oversight on Bill’s part.
Well why would he lie? Wasn’t he an honest, decent, hard-working secular Baathist bureaucrat?
Exactly FA, I just hope the IRS is as trusting as the CIA when I produce documentation of my apparent lack of income.
I’ll go along with Sid on this one as it helps my take on the whole WMD thing – My guess is that Saddam had a WMD program that was telling him exactly what he wanted to hear, but was not producing much, if any, actual WMDs because of corruption, fraud, and fear.
Each individual program manager or minister would know that they didn’t have actual WMDs, but would have to report back to Saddam that they did have these weapons, and act like they had the WMD capability, which explains why Western intel services *thought* Iraq had WMDs.
Which is still reason enough to justify Operation Iraqi Freedom, regardless of the physical presence or absence of WMDs.
Saddam has no WMD! His foreign minister said so!
I mean, if you can’t trust the sycophants of an absolute dictator, who can you trust? Chimpy McHallibushbabykillinhitler? The officials of a representative democracy? Don’t make me laugh!
According to the Washington Post, Sabri also told the CIA that biological weapons research was underway, and that Saddam had dispersed chemical weapons to loyal tribes:
In SidWorld, uncontrolled chem weapons are no threat. “Saddam had no WMDs! He gave them to someone else!”
“From an interested party, no less.”
As I recall, all our intel on Iraq was from interested parties, they just had different interests. We chose to believe the ex-pats with their dreams of US-backed coups d’etat over the apparatchiks with their hopes for status quo maintenance. Whether there was an actual, physical coin-toss will have to wait for the memoirs, I suppose. “Documentary evidence,” I can only assume, was either the Fedex receipt for a shipment of canisters to Riyadh, or a record of Chemical Ali’s increasingly frustrated calls to the Honeywell helpdesk complaining that the merch was defective.
Considering Saddam’s track record and the dangers of terror by proxy, where would you feel safe putting the welfare of your people, Gabriel Fry? On the word of Saddam Hussein and his toadys or on the word of his opposition, no matter how venal they are? (This question is based on the presumption that the Iraqi opposition was the only source of intelligence on Iraq, even though I recall the hearings showed that there was more than one source of information.)
The vote of Congress for the AUMF is a pretty good idea where they, not just George Bush, decided the risk lay. Osama bin Laden proved to be Saddam Hussein’s worst enemy.
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As I recall, all our intel on Iraq was from interested parties, they just had different interests. We chose to believe the ex-pats with their dreams of US-backed coups d’etat over the apparatchiks with their hopes for status quo maintenance. Whether there was an actual, physical coin-toss will have to wait for the memoirs, I suppose. “Documentary evidence,†I can only assume, was either the Fedex receipt for a shipment of canisters to Riyadh, or a record of Chemical Ali’s increasingly frustrated calls to the Honeywell helpdesk complaining that the merch was defective.
If you go back and review the legislation it was the ‘potential'(remember, past performance is indicative of future behavior.)for renewed WMD manufacture that led to the invasion of Iraq.
TomB: I have laughed harder a that comment that I’ve laughed at anything for a long time. Thanks.
– Fry – Just how many times does FOX need to run the 2001/2002 tapes of EVERY one of the Dem major players, including Hildebeast and sKerry, giving long winded speeches about the “looming danger to the entire world” of Saddams stockpile of WMD’s.
– It would really improve the level of discourse if the Dems, and their wing of crazies in the attic, would reject the tactic of relentlous willfull ignorance.
– Remember, Theism doesn’t work because you just piss off the pig farmers…..