Which is odd, because I was almost certain universities had gotten around the accusation that they routinely crush dissent by installing pen-sized free speech zones where such untoward musings are grudgingly allowed. In the name of “tolerance.”
Guess some free speech is just too hurtful for the enlightened arbiters of appropriate discourse. If it goes “bang,” it must be muzzled. Unless it’s, say, Clinton’s penis, around which establishment feminist apologias can be wrapped like protective jimmies.
The Constitution could not be reached for comment—presumably because it, too, has been suspended from Hamline for flaunting its First and Second Amendments with such reckless, unilateralist bravado.
(h/t Glenn)
So, if you a nun in your bolster, what kind would it be?
What in the name of Phineas T. Fogg is this university thinking?
A student sends 2 E-Mails complaining about the banning of concealed carry handguns on campus, along with some pointed barbs at diversity (ooo, there’s a favored child.) Lacking a specific threat the university suspends this student for security reasons?
Wah?
There had better be more meat on this bone or this guy is going to get semi wealthy very soon…
Un friggin believable…
Oh, wait a minute … Minneapolis/St. Paul! Now I get it!
Ok, so legally permited gun carriers don’t make people safe. Sternly word letters and counciling sessions make people safe. Right….
and these are the educated people in our society?
I thought the covered the difference between cause and correlation in college.
*sigh*
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I look forward to the coming lawsuit.
VIOLATOR! You are guilty of thoughtcrimes!
So, take a guy who you THINK is a crazy gun toting Neanderthal, and viscously destroy his future for no justifiable reason…
When your done with that, go down to the zoo and poke the bear with a sharp stick. That’s quicker, and when you make the news, it will be in the humor section, not the school-shooting-of-the-day section.
-Donut
Do you think that maybe the libs were trying to provoke something in order to advance their agenda?
Contact Hamline:
Dean’s Council
Ombudsman
Phone: 651-523-2800
I thought that having a cop waiting at the door to the classroom was a particularly nice touch. Way to go guys!
Nobody but us chickens in this university administration.
This doesn’t surprise me one bit. When I was on the faculty at Florida Atlantic University’s Jupiter campus, I made a complaint of gender discrimination. I was repeatedly harassed and treated like a criminal by thed campus police after that, and subsequently denied tenure.
You can read about it on my blog:
http://provocateurjim.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-so-few-men-in-college-newspaper-in.html
Huh? You can’t talk about what, or you’ll be expelled? I’m sorry, I could’t hear you. You can’t talk about what? Speak up, please.
President Linda Hanson’s phone number is 651 523-2202. I tried calling her office. The woman who answered the phone said that Linda is in a meeting all day. She took my message and number.
Oh, this makes perfect sense. Talking or writing about a constitutionally protected right is grounds revoking the various other rights afforded individuals. How very enlightened !
Oxymoron alert.
I’ll eschew the obvious observation.
The woman who answered the phone said that Linda is in a meeting all day.
I’ll just bet she is. I can hear lawyers licking their chops from here.
The reanimated corpse of Johnny Cochran couldn’t talk them out of this one—not even if it had been bitten by a radioactive spider inhabited by the reincarnated souls of Clarence Darrow, Demosthenes, and Steve Jobs.
(Okay, Jobs isn’t dead. Work with me here).
This sounds like a hate crime.
Against Troy Scheffler.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the idea of our local alternative weekly portraying the grad student in a sympathetic light. Way out of character for that bunch. They didn’t even manage to blame it all on Bush!
I can hardly wait to read the letters to the editor in next week’s edition. I’m betting we’ll hear a lot about how Hamline was very well justified in taking defensive action against the “gun-toting mentally imbalanced mass-murderer-in-waiting.” Trust me; I’ve met their readership.
Where you hear about those portective jimmies for wrapping up safely your penis? Because that sounds like a product I like to try.
D(on’t ask. Its a personnel matter.)
Witheld !!!!
“When I was on the faculty at Florida Atlantic University’s Jupiter campus”
‘I’ll eschew the obvious observation.’
Hey McGehee, don’t hold anything back. What’s the obvious observation?
They are on another planet….maybe.
Oh, I get it.
Yeah they are. Kristin Murtaugh is a man-hating sociopath.
BANG!*
Thus spoke Clinton’s Penis.
(*The Curved Bang Theory).
As for me, I love the feel of “establishment feminist apologias … wrapped like protective jimmies” … in the morning … before I’ve
had a pee … all warm and cozy… … … oops, off to another site now. Isn’t the internets wonderful?
I think I agree with what I’d imagine cynn’s take on this one would be. Scheffler’s second email, this is not an email that squares with a 31 year old pre-law student that I would want on my team.
Hmmm. Think I could get him on panel for my insurance company?
– “White House Hopes To Warm Up TV Weathercasters”, Howard Kurtz, W Post, 1997-09-18
this would make more sense in context I think
Vote for state’s rights imho
ok so I is an idiot, but I put the kicker in the right thread here
To atone for that, feet of happiness, you must dance a wild Polish mazurka for us.
Jill Clayburgh couldn’t dance faster than I am right now
Lissen you Zionist bastid, with the new people-loving, diversity embracing federal hate crimes legislation coming down the pike, even blogging about concealed carry will buy you some hard time in a hard place, so don’t push your luck…!
You must dance…The MAMOOSHKA!
Huh! I was thinking about the commute…
Little one getting ya down? =)
We used to call it “buyer’s remorse”, but the analogy doesn’t really work when return/refund is not an option ….
Don’t worry, it passes relatively quickly.
Usually. =)
T.W. son94—now that’s just spooky!
Hmmmm,,,,
docob,
That was Witheld. He’s been inexplicably missing for months, and sorely missed.
Don’t spook him, we want him to stick around.
Hi. I’ve been reached. It turns out I don’t really give a shit about what goes on at private colleges. Thanks.
Hi, Constitution. Of course, said private college doesn’t take any kind of government money, right?
Also, tort and contract law doesn’t give a shit whether you’re a public or private institution.
Really.
Let’s see… defamation (both libel and slander), intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligence, tortious interference, material breach of contract…
Ka-CHING!
And! And! And!
Willfull Obnoxious Arrogance!
Yea, yea, I know it isn’t a legal term but I really, really like writing it.
And forgive the Constitution. It hasn’t been the same since it attended that three day seminar on “double super secret precedents” given by Arlen Spector.
I don’t blame the Constitution. If I was that old I wouldn’t work either.
They probably do take some Federal money. I still don’t care. Maybe Congress passed a statute that does, but I doubt it.
As for tort, contract, whatever. I’m the fucking Constitution – he can waste his money with those cheap whores all he wants.
Hamline is a Private University? That’s like any other private property. It’s yours, as long as you follow all the rules, until the government wants to take it away from you and give it to someone else.
Where can I find the master list of that which cannot be said?
I wrote to a couple of the people on the Deans List about this. I got a reply:
It did seem kind of odd to me that an honest email in support of the 2nd amendment could so quickly descend into a scathing assault on progressive ideals in general. Perhaps there is more to this story than we know. I almost regret closing my email with:
Did they bother to clear it up for you, His Frogness?
I admit I’m reacting only to the story as it has been told here. If there are extenuating circumstances, I’d like to hear them.
But universities are notorious for flouting first amendment appeals by students—even while they bend over backwards to protect the speech of “a million Mogadishus” or the “little Eichmann’s” had it coming etc.
I wonder if FIRE is looking into this case yet. Will have to check.
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