From Michael Rubin, The Corner:
Former French Prime Minister Raymon Barre accuses the “Jewish Lobby†of victimizing Vichy official Maurice Papon who had been convicted of sending hundreds of French Jews to their deaths. Barre said, “Opposing the deportation of Jews had not been a matter of major national interest.â€Â
Anybody else think that if Wes Clark really wanted to be President, he’d have a better shot moving to France and establishing French citizenship…?
(h/t Glenn)
Plus ca change, plus c’est pareil. Sounds like a portent of things to come in France.
Sounds like a perfect illustration of something his 18th Century countryman La Rochefoucauld said, “Philosophy triumphs over past and future evils, but present evils triumph over it.”
Maurice Papon: The Scooter Libby of Vichy France?
I have a theory that the word “Jew” itself is to blame.
It just sounds sinister. I think if we starting calling Jews “guys with circular hats,” anti-semitism would disappear in a generation or so.
After all, who could fear the “Guys with Circular Hats Lobby”?
Right—because as we all saw Valerie Plame hauled off to the ovens. It was right there on live TV
With Karl Rove looking on, cackling with fiendish glee.
I’ll never forget that.
I think the phrase you’re looking for is “seared, seared, into my memory.”
I don’t know. “Guys with Circular Hats” could be inferred to mean “Guys who are Circumcised” and then we’re right back where we fuckin’ started.
Sticky, they’ll quickly attach the diminuitive “clipcock” to that one.
Our Jooooish host wrote:
Any chance that the excess funds from your fundraiser will go toward buying him the ticket?
Now there’s a fund raising campaign into which I can sink my teeth! Let’s get Joe and Valerie to fly with over with him while he regales them with his strategic conclusions that the US will suffer tens of thousands of casualties in both initial campaign phases of the Gulf Wars.
What a maroon!
then again, Dana we have Milton Street!
Remember Ariel Sharon?
Barre said, “Opposing the deportation of Jews had not been a matter of major national interest.â€Â
What immediately struck me is that he apparently thinks this is a defense and not an admission against interest.
Whereas being VERY offended over the CIA grabbing people who were not enslaved and gassed IS.
We saved these guys.
TWICE.
OTOH, wish,
If it weren’t for the French, America would still be a British colony and we’d be playin’ cricket and singin’ God Save the Queen.
You are, alfi. You just call it baseball and sing “My Country ‘tis of thee”.
France was a monarchy at the time, alphie.
And Napoleon sold us Louisiana.
Conclusion: Don’t let them vote. EVER.
Damn, furris.
You may be right, but hot dogs beat cucumber sandwiches any day.
little “a” has once again neglected to see that the “Vichy” French or modern day France were/are well after the Revolutionary War & like all of his points to date, is nothing more than the act of being contrary & off topic. Big Surprise there!
But I guess under the selective historical use clause that defines little “a’s†typical input, we can also completely forget & overlook the French support of the pro-slavery, Democratic controlled southern states in the Civil War as well. Not to mention their clear violation of UN sanctions in Iraq. Since only France’s actions over 200 years ago count in defining them today.
Funny how the same “historical†standards aren’t applied by little “a†to the Democrats’ political stances regarding Vietnam, the Civil War or thier opinions regarding Saddam or Iraq prior to the 2004 Presidential & 2006 mid-term elections.
Evidence of PMain’s sense of humor remins elusive.
History is a dangerous place to go poking around in, PMain. You might find, for instance, that stopping the deportation of Jews wasn’t exactly an American priority, either(see: SS St. Louis, etc.).
Like I said earlier, “selective historical use clause” & given your demonstrated historical understanding of WII, you’ll forgive me for only seeing one joke to respond to – namely you – & you’re right it’s not funny, it’s sad.
Send Wes Clark to France? Why, so he can be turned over to the Nazis? Clark is the son of a Jew, you know. But that’s ok. He’d end up leading the resistance to the Nazis… just like he is in this country now.
Jeff, I agree with your premise about a new, non-threatening name, but if you’re going to go the hat route, how about “guys with beanies?” That’s about as non-threatening as it gets.
Alphie describing history to us is like the armadillo describing sobriety.
Jeff, I’ve got the title for your next screenplay: An Inconvenient Jew.
Fresh steaming hyperbole!!!
Get your fresh steaming hyperbole!!!
Spicy sanctimony extra.
Spoken like someone who has never slogged through “Waging Modern War”…or served with the man. I had the distinct displeasure of both. Jai, count yourself lucky if you haven’t – he’s a strange, hubris ridden, vainglorious blowhard. And I wouldn’t repeat what every colonel I ever heard say about him for fear of what the Google searches for very profane terms would do to Jeff’s site.
Let us just say the politest thing I heard was “ass-kissing apple polisher”…
I’d hitch your wagon to a different mule if I were you.
MJ,
Perhaps you want to elighten Jai as to the good General’s now infamous attempt at starting World War IV or V (which one are we on now?) over a useless airport in Kosovo.
Profiles in courage and all that, you know.
wishbone – Gah! Fortunately nobody was going to listen to Clark telling them to boot 50 Russians out of Pristina Airdrom.
I wasn’t in KFOR, but I was in SFOR when GEN Clark became SACEUR…
Are you correcting me?
Do you know who I am?
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Sounds like Patton, Maj. John.
George Meade reference in 3…2…1…
There isn’t one single similarity – in nature or attitude, between Clark and Patton.
Congrats – that might be this weeks “dumbest thing yet said”.
Hasn’t anyone said “Stay the Course!” this week?
Hard to believe.
Major John, I don’t move about in officerland, but I had an acquaintance who had an enlisted job of some kind (classified, no details) under Clark.
His comment was that Gen. Clark bathed too often to be French.
Regards,
Ric
New on the Action Chimp™!
The inventor of the Balloon Fence Missile Sheild™ plumbs further depths of ignorance whilst comparing Wesley “tens of thousands of US casualties, I tells ya” Clark to George Patton.
There ought to be a law that says you have to at least be a capable general in order to run for President.
C’mon Alphie! You’re halfway off the rails. We were talking about something totally different, and you’re taking those little toddler troll steps toward your favorite rant. Don’t let the big bad floor scare ya. It won’t hurt (much). Try to sterr toatally clear of pesky jews and France and work us toward…….
Well, IIRC, Clark is from Arkansas, and as part of the Louisiana Purchase agreement, people born in the former French colony are entitled to French citizenship.
So……