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Former teen idol Leif Garrett comments on the decision by the Marysville, Ohio’s Parks Commission to rename the city’s “South Park” “Greenwood Park” to avoid any connection to the controversial TV show.

Garrett:  “I dunno.  Instead of surrendering your park to a bunch of construction paper cutouts, why not just cowboy up and take the fight to them?  You know—like, hire somebody to doodle up a battalion of cartoon National Guardsmen to go all Kent State on their little punk asses?”

“I mean, that’s what Stan Lee would do.  If he was younger.  And as totally hopped up on Greenies as I am.”*

83 Replies to “Former teen idol Leif Garrett comments on the decision by the Marysville, Ohio’s Parks Commission to rename the city’s “South Park” “Greenwood Park” to avoid any connection to the controversial TV show.”

  1. John Denver says:

    Like there is any danger someone would mistake Ohio for Colorado.  I would rather be in hell than in Ohio.

  2. Big Gay Al says:

    Oooooh.  Ohio.

  3. lee says:

    In a related story, the white house is being renamed the colorless house, in response to the racial strife rampent in the country.

  4. Stan Lee says:

    If you use my name you better be prepared to pay me 10%.  I am not getting fucked over again like I did on Spiderman.

  5. Jim in KC says:

    I would rather be in hell than in Ohio.

    Damn good thing, considering.

  6. I was just in Dayton yesterday, everything was made out of construction paper.  When I mentioned it to the guy I was with, he punched me in the face.

    I was a little upset, but a talking piece of shit set me right on the inherent goodness of people.

  7. Tman says:

    What’s hilarious is that the quickest way for this city to get made fun of on South Park the show would be to do something stupid like this.

    I can already here Trey and Matt laughing over the episode ideas.

  8. Rob Crawford says:

    Oddly, Springfield OH has no interest in changing its name.

  9. Bart Simpson says:

    Well, given that every state in the country has a Springfield–and we all know the real Springfield is in Oregon.

  10. Tman says:

    And uh, Jeff- since you’re back and all, and well, it IS Friday……….I mean the little guy made the move with you right?

    You didn’t let him take that side trip to Venezuela with Sean Penn and Paula Abdul? Because that would just be irresponsible. The Abdul chick is TROUBLE man. Let me tell you.

  11. steve ex-expat says:

    Okay,

    The joke here is that South Park is not politically correct and it is being politically correct to rename the park, giving an ironic twist to it.  Am I close this time?  The reference to Stan Lee I had to look up.  Do most peole on here know who the hell Stan Lee is, or is this a deliberate obscure reference?  Is the Leif Garrett reference with a presumably fake quote also meant to be obscure?  I am old enough to remember him and have heard about his subsequent drug problems, but perhaps readers under 30 wouldn’t know who he was. Is it funny to mock the students killed at Kent State or is this meant to be a politically incorrect ode to South Park couched in a fake quote from Leif Garrett, with a complimentary chance at a subtle bashing of hippies?

  12. ahem says:

    You. Just. Don’t Get. It.

  13. ahem says:

    steve xx: On second thought, why the fuck are you hanging around here ruining a perfectly good Friday afternoon? Piss off and take your boring intellectual act with you. You’re boring. Fuck off.

  14. steve ex-expat says:

    You. Just. Don’t Get. It.

    ahem,

    That’s what I’ve been saying.

  15. steve ex-expat says:

    “Piss off and take your boring intellectual act with you. You’re boring. Fuck off.”

    Wow, ahem, I haven’t been talked to like that since high school when I tried to sit at the cool kids’ table one lunch. Thanks for saying I’m “intellectual,” though, even if you think it’s an act.  There’s a silver lining inside every cloud (or something like that).

  16. Jess says:

    Well, here’s your answer:

    Yes.

    Or No.  Whatever.

    J

    Of course, I wanted to say more…

  17. Stan Lee says:

    Thanks for mentioning my name steve ex-expat.  Ka-ching!  I will send you an invoice.

  18. Gray says:

    Steve xx cut and ran from the UN thread when he was forced to confront an actual argument rather than gaze at his own navel.

    I believe that he truly doesn’t ‘get it’.  He judges everything by how he feels and he doesn’t know what to feel about proteinwisdom humor.

    ‘CUZ OF THE JUXTAPOSITONS.

    Don’t talk to him–if anything looks like it might damage his carapace of ignorance and leftist agit-prop, he runs like Jon Kerry from Vietnam.

  19. cranky-d says:

    Okay, has there ever been another visitor who could suck the life out of every joke as well as steve-xx?

    I used to think actus was the winner, but not any more.

    We’re now accepting nominations.

  20. Rob Crawford says:

    Just what kind of rock is someone living under if they don’t know who Stan Lee is?

  21. Rusty says:

    Just what kind of rock is someone living under if they don’t know who Stan Lee is?

    That’s Spike Lees dad, right?

  22. McGehee says:

    And he’s proudof not “getting it.”

    Fly in a bottle.

  23. steve ex-expat says:

    Gray,

    I didn’t “cut and run.” At a certain point, you have to just stop, because every comment tends to produce two or more you have to answer to.  It’s kind of hard to cut yourself off, as everyone likes the last word, but sometimes you have to realize that continuing will not produce a better result:  LIKE IN IRAQ!

    However, if you would like to remake a point that you felt I cut an ran from, I’d be happy to repond to it in this thread (“just this once,” as Pacino said to Diane Keaton in the Godfather when she tried to ask him about his business), as long as Jeff doesn’t mind an off-topic post and response.  Thanks in advance,

    Steve Ex-expat

  24. cranky-d says:

    “Well, Spock?”

    “Scanning, Captain.  Fascinating.”

    “What is it, Spock?”

    “His skull is apparently comprised of solid Neutronium, the densest material known to science.”

    </STTOS>

  25. steve ex-expat says:

    Just what kind of rock is someone living under if they don’t know who Stan Lee is?

    Rob, c’mon, I didn’t even like comic books when I was 7 years old.  Now, I’m sure at least one or two people here didn’t know who Stan Lee was.  Own up, people!  Fair is fair.

  26. steve ex-expat says:

    And he’s proudof not “getting it.”

    McGehee,

    I thought I got it this time.  Oh well, back to the drawing board.

  27. TODD says:

    Steve xx

    Do you know what Iraq is really about? Please reply without using the tired old boring Lefty talking points, that is if you really have an opinion of your own….

  28. Stan Lee says:

    You guys just keep it up.  Ka-ching!  Ka-ching! 

    Get me. I’m givin’ out wings.

    Let me tell you the rules around here steve ex-expat–

    –we serve hard jokes in here for men and women who want to get drunk fast, and we don’t need any characters around to give the joint “atmosphere”. Is that clear, or do I have to slip you my left for a convincer?

  29. steve ex-expat says:

    TODD,

    If you could tell me what Iraq is all about, I’d be eternally grateful.  I can’t even venture a guess at this point.  I used to assign all kinds of ulterior motives to it, but nothing really rings true.  It might be that the ulterior motives just didn’t pan out, but it might be that there is just no rhyme or reason to it.  But if you know what it’s about, I’m all ears.  All I ask is that you give me a reason that was stated somewhere BEFORE the war started, unless you think that it is now about something other than whatever it was about when it started.

  30. Rob Crawford says:

    Rob, c’mon, I didn’t even like comic books when I was 7 years old.  Now, I’m sure at least one or two people here didn’t know who Stan Lee was.

    To be honest, I didn’t like comic books, either. But I have enough curiosity to occasionally learn things outside my interests.

    I think I found a limit to your mind-reading power, though. Sad, really. The way you talk, it leads a person to think you can read anyone’s mind and know what’s happening deep within their soul.

  31. Nick says:

    Who gave Stan Lee the right to use my lines! 

    Hey Steve ex-expat.  Where were you an expat anyway and why are you an ex one?

  32. steve ex-expat says:

    The way you talk, it leads a person to think you can read anyone’s mind and know what’s happening deep within their soul.

    Rob,

    That would certainly make my job easier (I’m a psychiatrist), but unfortunately I have no such ability.

  33. Rob Crawford says:

    I used to assign all kinds of ulterior motives to it, but nothing really rings true.

    How about the reasons that were stated? Or do you simply refuse to take people at their word? Do you look for ulterior motives because that’s the way you behave? Or are you just a paranoid freak?

    I mean, Christ, the fricking Democrats voted on the use of military force, too. Most of them voted FOR it. Have you ever bothered to read what they voted on?

  34. Tman says:

    Man……no armadillo story so far on a Friday?

    (whistling innocently whilst digging a toe in the dirt….)

    Nothin..

    That’s it, I want a refund……..

  35. Rob Crawford says:

    That would certainly make my job easier (I’m a psychiatrist), but unfortunately I have no such ability.

    Really? Because you certainly act like you can read minds—you’re always telling people what the REALLY mean and declaring that people hold positions they’ve never claimed or intimated.

    I guess you’re just a boor, then.

    Damn. I was hoping for a mind reader, even a faulty one.

  36. steve ex-expat says:

    Hey Steve ex-expat.  Where were you an expat anyway and why are you an ex one?

    Nick,

    I went to New Zealand for a couple of years.  I e-mailed the recruiter on the day of “Shock and Awe” and left a few months after.  I’m back for the time being.  It was a great time and I’ll likely go back there some day, but it can be difficult to be that far away from your family and we had some financial considerations to take care of.  New Zealand was a great time.

  37. Pablo says:

    If you could tell me what Iraq is all about, I’d be eternally grateful.

    It’s about Mesopotamia, steve. It’s the cradle of civilization and God wants us to run it because we did such a kick ass job with Disneyland.

  38. TODD says:

    Steve XX

    I am going to let you fly on this one Steve, I asked the question first. My opinion is irrevelant at this point good Dr

  39. steve ex-expat says:

    Rob,

    Although I generally vote for the Democrats in national elections (due to the Nader incident), I am registered Green Party.  I am considering switching to independent, as I think that there is no hope for third parties in the U.S. system.  Whether a group of Democrats signed on to Bush’s resolution makes it no more persuasive to me.  That was a cowardly political decision by them.  If Clinton, Biden, or Kerry were to be nominated as the Democrat, I will not vote for them.  I will never vote for Diane Feinstein again for the same reason.  I held my nose and voted for Kerry the last time out of desperation, but that is the last time any of them will get my vote. 

    My suggestion to fellow Green Party members, which didn’t go over well, was that we should all register Republican.  We would probably have more political influence then, since we could help weed out the worst of the Republicans.  It wouldn’t be that unusual, really.  Republican Teddy Roosevelt was an environmentalist and also took on the large corporations, which are the Green Party’s two biggest issues.

  40. Lou says:

    Todd,

    Oh Hi Todd!

  41. steve ex-expat says:

    TODD,

    I would expect that if someone asks the question, it’s fair to request a quid pro quo from them first as a courtesy.  The main “stated” reason for the war, as I understood it from the television news was weapons of mass destruction.  The number two reason was to get Saddam Hussein.  Since neither of these stated reasons is an issue, why are we still there?  I really, truly, honestly can’t come up with a good reason.  I’m not trying to hold back at the risk of losing an argument. 

    Anyway, I’m heading off for quick jaunt to a local winery.  I look forward to your response.

  42. TODD says:

    SteveXX

    Don’t hold your breath

  43. Lou says:

    Hey Steve,

    Todd loves Chard.

  44. Jeff Goldstein says:

    I was going to put up an armadillo post today, but I was afraid steve ex-expat’s head would explode from the very non-sequiturness of the whole thing.

    And really, who wants their walls coated with pixie dust and marble dents.

  45. cranky-d says:

    On the other hand, if you inundate him with the inside stuff, maybe he’ll take the hint and find some other evil neocon establishment to haunt.

  46. ThomasD says:

    as I understood it from the television news

    Sweet.

    I don’t care what anyone else tells you Steve, you are one damn funny individual.

  47. Bill D. Cat says:

    Fer news of the little fella’ , I’d vacuum and paint .

  48. B Moe says:

    I didn’t even like comic books when I was 7 years old.

    Who was suprised by this revelation?

    The main “stated” reason for the war, as I understood it from the television news was weapons of mass destruction.  The number two reason was to get Saddam Hussein.

    The reason we went into Iraq was because they refused to honor the truce agreements from the first Gulf War.  The repeatedly violated the no-fly zones and refused to cooperate completely with UN weapons inspectors.

    Since neither of these stated reasons is an issue, why are we still there?  I really, truly, honestly can’t come up with a good reason.

    There will be a blood bath of epic proportions if we don’t help establish a new government there after the old one collapsed.  If protecting hundreds of thousands of innocent lives isn’t a good enough reason to stay there in your mind, I am afraid I can’t help you.

  49. Danger says:

    Steve,

    If you would really (I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt) want to know the reason for the Iraq war please read the article in the link below:

    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006723.htm

    Danger

  50. Steve, at this point, I consider the reaction of the moonbat contingent nearly sufficient reason in itself.

    Along with disrupting the lines of supply and communication throughout the middle east, creating a situation in which the other Sunni states are having to get some skin in the game, eliminating a major source of funding for the Palestinian Authority, and the massive growth and vitality of the Iraqi economy, which is going to probably have more long term effect than any current conflict within Bagdad.

  51. Oh, and damned right Ohio should change their park.  If we can handle mecha-Barbra-Streisand, we can take ohio.

  52. Darleen says:

    I’m sure Trey Parker and Matt Stone would be happy to share the name, they certainly have tried to trademark it like a certain <a href=”Trey Parker and Matt Stone”>ex-con</a> has.

  53. Darleen says:

    On the other hand, Martha Stewart is trying to trademark the name of her hometown.

  54. Darleen says:

    oh fer heaven’s ….. I thought the first comment was swallowed up…

    [grumble…leaving to pour a tall gin & tonic]

  55. Gray says:

    Yeah, Steve xx:  I thought about it a while and posted it on the ‘UN’ thread but when I posted it, you had cut and run–I mean de-escalated and redeployed….  I’m curious about your answer.  I believe it goes to the heart of things:

    There is an obvious difference, though, in our current era due to the level of destructive weapons and an ever increasing population fighting for fewer resources.

    OK, I’ll bite: what’s the obvious difference now?  It’s really no different than it ever was.  Rome wiped out entire cities, it just took longer.  Resources have always been scarce and we have always fought over them.

    What is this ‘obvious difference’?

    There is really only one direction that a continuation of “might makes right” can go, and it ain’t going to be pretty (or reversible).

    Are you saying that the guy with the Glock in Whole Foods actually creates more strife and crime and chaos?

    …it is the only alternative to trying to end the “might makes right” approach to the world and try to live in peace.

    Can’t you see that it is the possession of force and the willingness to use it that guarantees peace?  It is unfortunate, but it is and will always be the way of the world.  Weakness is always hounded to death and destroyed in nature as it is in national affairs.

    I mean, if you don’t even think that there should be an attempt to live in peace, then there isn’t much point in having any international organization allegedly devoted to it.

    I don’t think there should be ‘an attempt to live in peace’.

    (”…an attempt to live in peace.” Ye Gods, how whiney and wishy-washy is that!?).

    I think there should be a peace guaranteed by force of arms and the will to use them.  It is the only ‘peace’ in this fallen world.

    I want to live in a world where no thug would try to rip off the wimpy, defenseless proggs in Whole Foods.  That’s what I want for them.  But until then, I want them protected by a surly guard with a gun and plenty of ammo.

    –while they shoot him dirty looks because his very existence puts the lie to their unrealistic world of ‘attempting to live in peace’.  Just like they hate G. Bush.

    It’s not the world you wish it was and ‘attempting to live in peace’ with wishes and good feelings always, always gets the weak and innocent killed first.

  56. norm2121 says:

    You know, what strikes me about Steve XX (and I’ll put this in words the “psychiatrist” can understand) is the complete lack of affect in his voice. It’s a monotonic drone, with passive-aggressive notes. Sort of like a mediocre whine.

  57. steve ex-expat says:

    norm,

    That’s my best Noam Chomsky imitation.  A mediocre whine?  Would you prefer higher quality whine?

  58. steve ex-expat says:

    Gray,

    Was that the post you wanted me to respond to?  If so, I don’t want to disappoint.  I have no argument for your point other than I think it is a nihilistic position you are taking if I am to understand it correctly.  It seems it’s just a matter of who gets the most toys before the whole thing ends, decided by who has the biggest guns.  It’s hard to argue against it, but it’s a lot easier to make the argument when your guns are the biggest.  It just takes up a lot of time trying to keep it that way, and eventually you are on the receiving end of the big guns.  Personally, I think it is worth at least an attempt to go in the direction of peace.

  59. Stan Lee says:

    I prefer Opus myself, but those bastards at Marvel had me drinking Carlo Rossi for years. 

    Payback is a bitch.  Say my name and you owe me a $1.

  60. McGehee says:

    Sort of like a mediocre whine.

    No, more like Ripple.

  61. B Moe says:

    …but it’s a lot easier to make the argument when your guns are the biggest.

    Keep repeating that over and over, maybe it will eventually sink in.

  62. Gray says:

    I have no argument for your point other than I think it is a nihilistic position you are taking if I am to understand it correctly.  It seems it’s just a matter of who gets the most toys before the whole thing ends, decided by who has the biggest guns.

    Is that all you got out of what I wrote?!

    It’s exactly the opposite of a nihilistic position!

    A nihilistic position is to wander around ‘attempting to go in the direction of peace’ until someone takes everything you hold dear.

    That’s nihilism–’attempting peace’ unto death–That’s the definition of nihilism!

    Unfortunately, everything has always been decided by ‘who has the biggest guns’.  So now what?

    The guard in Whole Foods has a gun and watches over you and the other wimpy proggs attempting to shop in peace because you choose not to defend yourselves–to live in peace unto death.

    (I choose the guard at Food Hole because it is the perfect object lesson–happy proggs shopping like sheep watched over by the sheepdog.  Yet the sheep hate the sheepdog.  I’ve seen the looks they give him….)

    Would you remove his gun as an ‘attempt at peace’?

    TW:  frriends69 well, maybe not 69….

  63. steve ex-expat says:

    Gray,

    Don’t you think your analogy would be better if you had several guards at Whole Foods, all with more than enough firepower to wipe out every customer, each watching over their select group of customers?  The guard in the tofu section would like a little tangerine juice, so he convinces his customers to help him attack the smaller group guarding the juice section.  That group then has to either fight back if they can, or join up with the group that just attacked them.  Even if they do join with them, though, that is a tenuous alliance at best considering it was done under the point of a gun, so the first chance they get, they will try to kick out the guys who took their tangerine juice.  Meanwhile, the guard for the blue chips and and carob chocolate sees an opportunity to join up with the tangerine juice group and beat back the tofu guard and his customers, maybe even getting a little tofu on the side.  This whole time, of course, more and more customers are being given guns to help with the guards, but some of them don’t really like the guard they’re with, so they break off and do their own thing in the organic detergent dept.  Obviously, there are only two ways for this scenario to end.  Either there is a nihilistic shootout as each group becomes more heavily armed and fragmented, or some sort of agreement is made so that all the customers can shop in peace and enjoy all the lovely food items that the market has to offer.

    I’m officially bailing from this thread, now.

  64. Tom Cruise says:

    Told y’all.

  65. McGehee says:

    I’m officially bailing from this thread, now.

    Why not try a new trick? Bail from the whole blog.

  66. Pablo says:

    stevexx, you forgot the big sonofabitch watching the raw beef with a .45 in his holster, a .357 at the small of his back, a sawed off in the cooler and a coupla three blades stashed at various strategic locations. At the end of the day, the rest of them are nothing more than semantics.

  67. Did someone say the US was getting ready to cut and run again?

    Where the hell did I leave those death squads?

  68. The_Real_JeffS says:

    steve ex expat says he spent time in New Zealand, just returned from there.  He’s well versed in leftie talking points, is a self-hating American, and says he is a psychatrist.

    Now, does anyone remember that leftie troll “Phonecian In A Time Of Romans”?  Came out of New Zealand (IIRC), is vehemently anti-American, and is more than a little nuts?  Eventually banned, and for good reasons.

    Nope, I am not saying that there’s a relationship here.  I’m just pointing out some facts, is all…….

  69. Now, does anyone remember that leftie troll “Phonecian In A Time Of Romans”?

    oh, oh, I do! I do! yeah, it does make one wonder about N.Z.

    uh, and Jeff, iirc, isn’t he also “Phlebus”? just sayin.

  70. Gray says:

    Don’t you think your analogy would be better if you had several guards at Whole Foods, all with more than enough firepower to wipe out every customer, each watching over their select group of customers?

    Steve you ignorant ass:

    It’s not an analogy you twat, it’s a fact.  I reported something I saw with my own eyes.  It can’t be ‘better’ it already ‘is’.

    You can’t make your own facts up.  You cannot disregard reality and impose your stupid liberal views.

    Jesus Crist on a pogo-stick you’ve got some powerful defense mechanisms to avoid reality!  If you don’t like the reality ‘cuz it doesn’t support your dippy-hippy views you just make shit up!

    You just made a bunch of shit up to avoid facing my point because your pointy little liberal head would collapse over your ball-tickler moustache and goatee.

    But now you bailed on this thread too….

    Anyways, happy Whole Foods shopping in peace, you twat, even though you deny their existence, the sheepdogs are watching over you keeping you safe from harm while you denigrate them as criminals, murderers and thugs.  You ungrateful little bastard.

    Fucking ”reality based community”….

    I’m never replying to you again.  Shitbird.

  71. ThomasD says:

    I’m officially bailing from this thread, now.

    Yes, I’d suggest a wardrobe adjustment while you are gone.  Because your psychopathology is showing.

  72. The_Real_JeffS says:

    uh, and Jeff, iirc, isn’t he also “Phlebus”? just sayin.

    I don’t know, maggie, but in this fallen world, anything is possible…..

  73. furriskey says:

    You realise that if he actually is a shrink, he will have patients, some of whom may actually have mental problems, coming to him for help.

    Is there no control over who can set up in practice as a shrink? Is this why he bailed out of medical school?

    I find the whole thing rather worrying, frankly.

  74. B Moe says:

    Now, does anyone remember that leftie troll “Phonecian In A Time Of Romans”?  Came out of New Zealand (IIRC), is vehemently anti-American, and is more than a little nuts?  Eventually banned, and for good reasons.

    Nope, I am not saying that there’s a relationship here.  I’m just pointing out some facts, is all…….

    The main difference is stevex seems to be completely incapable of hyper-linking, and Phoeny could do little else.

  75. Pablo says:

    Phoney was somewhat responsible for one of the funniest threads evah!

  76. Lost Dog says:

    Like there is any danger someone would mistake Ohio for Colorado.  I would rather be in hell than in Ohio.

    Posted by John Denver | permalink

    You are in Hell. How drunk do you have to be to not put fuel in your airplane? It was bad enough with the drunken Porsche, but how the heck do you go flying with no gas?

    Answer: You don’t, you dead moron.

    TW: plane16? I think you meant ex-plane!

  77. furriskey says:

    One of Trudeau’s best had to be Duke hollering down to the creek, where JD was strumming a few bars, “Why don’t you change your name to Akron and move to Ohio?”

  78. Rusty says:

    How drunk do you have to be to not put fuel in your airplane? It was bad enough with the drunken Porsche, but how the heck do you go flying with no gas?

    I look at it as gods way of preventing anymore truly awful ballads.

  79. MayBee says:

    Maybe Bush could rename Baghdad “Greenwood City”.  That sounds like a happy place, well worth defending.

  80. Maybe Bush could rename Baghdad “Greenwood City”.  That sounds like a happy place, well worth defending.

    or heck, maybe we could rename it Kosovo, cause nobody seems to have a problem with us being there since the 90’s.

  81. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Shhhh.  We’re not supposed to notice.

  82. Unwilling B***eye says:

    There is a place worse than Ohio, North Dakota.

    I live in Ohio (not a native, an unfortunate passer-thru that married an Oh girl and got stuck) and I have to agree, hell would be an improvement.  Had to register as a Dem so I could have an effect at the polls.  Where I am you can get shot for leaning to the right.  We frequently have local ballots with no Republican candidates.  Help meeeeeeeeee.

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