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Neither McCain nor Giuliani can pass the Dobson test, Neither do they care presumably. McCain would be opposed by the screaming mimi’s as a Ragin’ Rino, and Giuliani has sufficient skeletons so that he would be hounded to Baskerville Hell, caught in the same pincers as Harreit Miers.
Dobson test? Is that kind of like a colonoscopy?
In case you hadn’t noticed, it’s a joke about the stupidity of the headline writer, which is a little motif of mine, today.
Don’t suppose Hill’s got any skeletons, do ya?
It was just a comment on the subject matter. Giuliani is too much of media darling for me to pass up a chance to discredit. But we probably oppose him from different directions.
I don’t oppose Rudy. I just don’t see what the excitement is, there, so much. I do think that the fundy-bashing you guys do here is a non-sequitur. There are religious types, here, including myself, Roman Catholic, but we’re pretty secular when it comes to our politics. Most of us, I’d venture to say are for tolerance on the part of the religious, but also toward them. I wonder, if you got down to it, what the ratio of charitable involvement between the religious would be, when compared with self-identified leftists.
Emphasis mine.
Nope. No bias here. Nothing to see. Move along.
B Moe, if you think about it, Kerry himself has made “unsubstantiated allegations about [his own] military record”.
Do you mean like the charitable involvement between Trotsky and Stalin, who really did poke out Trotsky’s mind’s eye?
Uh, I was against the Miers nomination, and I’m hardly a fundie. And I’d gladly support Giuliani over McCain any day—provided, of course, I was satisfied that he was committed to legal conservatism and fiscal restraint.
And by legal conservatism (as I noted in my many posts on Miers), I mean Thomas moreso than Scalia.
I am constantly amazed, after so many years of posting and so many words proffered, that the anklebiters who show up here continue to trot out the religious fundamentalist cartoon and apply it to this site or its commenters.
If the social conservative base wants to pout and stay home on election day, they can have, as their reward, Hillary—who, in addition to disagreeing with them on social issues, will also harm them in the long term in a number of other ways, including economically and legally (the latter by appointing justices to the bench that would gladly draw from “international law” and would continue to thump on the chest of the Constitution while claiming all the time that it is living).
I know the consensus from the “well-educated” Blue Staters is that we bigoted, moronic Red-Staters will never accept moderates like Rudy or McCain, but as is true with well… almost everything written in the North about the South, you’d be wrong. Mainly cause you don’t live here and have no clue about what you’re talking about.
The reason is simple: We will be looking to who we think can beat Hillary, just as the Left ended up getting behind John Kerry because they thought he could beat Bush. That’s how either McCain or Rudy could make it through the primaries. Oh they MIGHT not win South Carolina, but I truly wouldn’t be surprised if either did. Now IF the Dems are smart, they won’t run Hillary, because they have to know that she will bring tons of both Conservatives and Moderates to the voting booths to vote against her. But I’m counting on the fact that they aren’t that smart. Personally, I’d like to see a McCain/Guiliani ticket which I think would crush all comers. McCain for Foreign Policy experience, Guiliani for Domestic Policy experience. WHo’s gonna beat that?
Having the stock phrases memorized – rethuglican, fundie, neocon, imperialist, etc. – saves them from actually having to read what you (or anyone else here) has written Jeff. It is a homage to efficiancy. Frederick Taylor would have been proud.
I like Guiliani alot, I loathe McCain. I thought Bill Clinton was too socially conservative. I gave up atheism for poly-theism with the realization anyplace this fucked up had to be drawn up by a committee. I think if John Kerry signed that 180 thing he might not be able to get re-elected Senator. I think Nancy Pelosi should have her own 24 hour reality TV channel, she is the Paris Hilton of politics. I think I am bored as hell right now.
I’m from an incredibly red state and I can’t find any Republican who can’t McCain without spitting. The talk show hosts hate him more than B Moe hates Hillary. Saying he would have trouble in Republican primaries is not rocket science.
That said, I hope he pulls through. i strongly disagree with Iraq policy, but he is reasonably principled and hews to my idea of decent conservatism. Plus, at least two of my liberal friends say they would vote him over Hillary, because they think Hillary would lose.
Nonetheless, Dan, I thought I was excellent comment on the headline writer.
Oh, forgot to add, ‘cause I was trying to be pleasant, but B Moe, could you tell me which allegation the Swift Boat folks made that was substantiated?
I can’t think of one the Pentagon ever said was true. Investigations by journalists from the Washington post and LA Times were unable to verify one significant claim.
Face it, they were b.s. charges. You don’t have to question a war hero’s service to vote against him; there were plenty of reasons to vote against Kerry, just like there were against McGovern, Dole, and the Bush, Sr.
Face this also, it worked. Who cares that O’Neill, specifically, is a liar. Politics is full of them and dirty tricks are part of politics. The whole episode shows Kerry and Shrum had tin ears and, thus, deserved to lose. Presidents handle smears…
You won. the President handled the charges agaisnt him by changing the subject and demanding evidence; Kerry could have done the same.
Bmoe – As I pointed out to LMC on another thread… You should be bubbling over with excitement, since you DIDN’t get an invite to the TomKat wedding.
– I’m unabashedly behind Guiliani for two reasons.
I just like the way the man handles himself, 9/11 was the extreme end of the possible events any politico (we hope), will ever have to deal with. He came out of that batting 1000. the other reason is he’s so balanced in his politic’s, there’s something there for everyone to like, or hate, but still a balance no one else can touch.
– Paired with a Condi or a Steele, someone who really represents Black American interests beyond the straight jacket of victimhood, I think he’s unbeatable, because coupled with the anti-Hillery Conservative vote, there would be plenty of moderate Dem crossovers that would love to have him for his Liberal views. I just don’t see anyone else with his star appeal and balanced politics worth a damn. McCain is yeaterdays news. Way too conservative to win big, if at all, and I want a big win, not just a win.
– Lastly I’m tired, as I imagibe everyone is, of gutless pols that get into office, and then whimp out. Rudy has bigguns.
– neoconbaiter – If that gets you through the night, go for it. Just try really hard to not think about form DD-180’s, and you should be fine.
McCain-Feingold.
McCain coupled with Feingold to create a class of certified media outlets that may, with the government’s permission, disseminate political opinions about candidates 60 days prior to an election. Its tortuous regulations, fines, punishments, garnishments, and speech-regulating board are a disgrace to liberty.
It is a disgusting piece of crappy legislation that I hope some day will somehow be destroyed.
I will never vote for the man who was instrumental in its passage. He is just as disgusting as that law is, and cannot be trusted with our liberties.
The fact that GWB signed it was revealing as well. That was a sad day.
You’re kidding, when you imply this matters, right?
Jeff,
Well, I am a religious conservative and I would vote for Guiliani in a heartbeat. Dan is right, most religious people are rather secular about political choices. We go to church for religion. It’s the Liberals who worship the state.
I feel violent impulses just thinking about John McCain as President.
I am a fiscal conservative. I want the government bloat to stop. If Guiliani wants to increase the government size, I’ll vote for someone else.
What unites thinking people (religious or not) right now is defending Western ideals against crazies intent on the world being thrown back to the stone ages. One does not have to go to be a Christian fundamentalist to see the nature of this threat.
Off Topic Alert:
Saw this over at Drudge and just had to bring it to the group’s attention.
New study from a professor at Syracuse U:
Conservatives, especially those “who practice religion, live in traditional nuclear families and reject the notion that the government should engage in income redistribution are the most generous Americans, by any measure.”
“Conversely, secular liberals who believe fervently in government entitlement programs give far less to charity. They want everyone’s tax dollars to support charitable causes and are reluctant to write checks to those causes, even when governments don’t provide them with enough money. “
In other words Libs want to spend YOUR Money, not theirs. Now that’s a surprise…
Sure, it doesn’t matter. Unless the Washington Times or Rush Limbaugh reported it, then it doesn’t matter… Sorry, forgot the orthodoxy.
Meanwhile, in the real world, where Newsweek and the Washington Post broke the Lewinsky scandal, where a New York Times reporter was the biggest cheerleader for the administration on WMD and regime change, and where the Washington Post editorialized multiple times in favor of the war in Iraq (and continues to do so), there is a fleeting acknowledgement that news can be flawed, but it’s more trustworthy than John O’Neill and Sean Hannity
Ah, Geezer, ya beat me to that big stinking pile of monkeycrap. McCain confuses me. There are times when I want to cheer him and others when I want beat him senseless. Add in his stances on immigration and his very, very public presence in opposition on the military tribunals and he just doen’t have the warm and fuzzy.
Guliani Steele looks like a winner, although Steele hasn’t had the high profile Gov job yet.
High profile or not, Steele is a stand-up guy. Everyone from center on rightwards in this State loves the guy. (However, that’s not enough of the population to win the vote. Related news: dead people vote in alphabetical order.) I’ve actually had the opportunity to speak with him three times and I always feel like he’s genuine and positive in what he says.
I’d vote for Steele for any political office. Inexperience in a small concern compared to the quality of his character.
– neoconbaiter – You’re running behind the power curve. The consensous coming out of the hearings shows the entire Dem leadership envolved, as now being FOR increased troop strength. You need to catch up. You’re flagging on todays talking points.
– In case no one has told you, Lurch is now officially the dissapearing man with the moonus battas clan. You must have missed both memo’s.
After they tried to sit on it– but had to run with it after Drudge broke the fact they hadn’t broken it.
Say, are you really John Kerry, or what?
– Oh and nice threadjack neocontwit. We all know how much Rudy scares the crap out of you, but this is kind of over-feckless, even for your bunch of chuckleheads.
How about the allegation that John Kerry refuses to release his military records by signing a form 180? Is that an unsubstantiated allegation?
How about the allegation that Kerry made unsubstantiated claims that his fellow soldiers and officers were guilty of war crimes? Kerry’s lack of substantiation for his claim is all the substantiation required to prove the allegation true.
How about the allegation that Kerry was never ordered into Cambodia, despite his numerous claims to the contrary—an allegation made by every still-living member of his chain of command? When Kerry says he was ordered to go—and the 5 officers above him all deny any such order was ever given—whose claim is unsubstantiated?
There are many other claims to be discussed—but if your definition of “substantiation” means “the main stream media agrees it is true”, then it is a waste of time to discuss it further.
– Rudy Guiliani – the Nations next Reagan?…. the SecProggs worst nightmare….Who could the Dems run against him…. Hillery?…Richardson?….
Lieberman? ……….. Bwahahahahahahah
– The Lefts ironclad argument concerning the entire HeWhosHeadIsFunny debacle: “All of the charges have be discredited” by the Left.
I never bothered to read the Swiftboat stuff, there were already plenty of reasons for me to hate the bastard as you pointed out. But what I picked up here an there it seemed to be alot of he said/she said and couldn’t really be substantiated either way without Kerry releasing his records, which he won’t do. So if it basically comes down to a matter of conflicting opinions, Kerry loses 200 to 5 or so.
What I was poking fun at, was the media pointing out the swiftboaters were unsubstantiated yet again, when they never seem to talk about Kerry’s story being unsubstantiated also, or the fact that Kerry holds the key to clear up all this confusion.
Hell, the media never seemed to understand that Kerry admitted the first Purple Heart was a self inflicted wound in his own book. He plainly stated that he first faced enemy fire several days after that incident.
Threadjack? I addressed McCain before some nice folks wanted to argue about what happened two years ago and in one case four decades ago!?!
I discussed McCain above and would love to continue to do so. I think the interesting questions regarding 2008 are: One, is there a Democrat that can turn a red state blue?
Two, is there a Republican who can lose a red state or win a blue state?
I think your guys’ love of Giuliani is fascinating, given the mistress angle. Frankly, I’m glad to hear it. I could care less if my plumber screws around or the hotel manager is having an affair. Why do people care so much about adultery with politicians?
What about Giuliani’s other moderate positions? He is pro-gay rights, pro-choice, etc. Do you guys care about that enough to not vote?
Here’s my answer to the above questions: First, I think Hillary can hold all the blue states against any conventional Republican and add Florida. Folks in Vermont and Oregon are still going to vote for her and folks in Texas and Indiana are still going to vote against her. Florida is full of a pretty large group of Democratic voters and moderates. Bush got less than 50% of Florida’s votes in 2000 and won by three points (or so) in 2004. There will be no wartime President running in 2008. She could replicate Gore’s accomplishment….
Rudy and McCain are not conventional Republicans, however. I don’t see how either survives a primary fight with an actual conservative, but I never knew how popular Rudy was with some right wing folks until I perused this thread. McCain or Rudy could pluck a New Mexico, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
Personally, I’m more fond of McCain than any other Republican and I would prefer Evan Bayh or John Edwards to Hillary. (That is predicated on John Edwards actually stepping up and being a jerk once in awhile. His nice guy shtick would get him buried by any Karl Rove wannabe).
Perhaps, someone would come along and unite the middle of both parties. That would be nice. I could have a conversation with people with whom I disagree without being accused of working for others.
P.S. By the way, the Democratic Congress possibly agreeing to send more troops to Iraq is the single funniest thing I have read today. I wish the Onion could be that creative.
Honestly, I don’t think in those terms, my head hurts bad enough as it is. I pick candidates primarily on strength of character, with their stand on issues a large factor. I like Guiliani mainly because I think he is a stand-up dude, although I agree with most of his positions on issues. I dislike McCain because I think he has become a self-serving political whore, and McCain-Feingold was an abomination. Hillary might perform well if the vote were held next week, with no campaigning involved, but I don’t think she can hold up during a legitimate Presidential campaign. She is a gifted amateur, she doesn’t have big league stuff.
I don’t think it will be that big of a handicap, alot of people on the right aren’t as anti gay rights and anti abortion as they are portrayed, it is more a matter of how the issues are approached and where the line is drawn. Rudy can figure that out, if he doesn’t already know it.
That’s true. Rudy can walk that line.
I’ll tell this re: your head hurting. I love policy and politics and I rarely tire of political discussions, but those scenarios hurt my head too. I can’t figure all those permutations out either.
Ironically, the only conservative I loathed (who was angling for the Presidency) and might have been electable was George Allen. He was nice enough to shoot himself in the foot. I think that hurts the Dems because either McCain or Rudy makes it more difficult to win those moderates.
But, it helps me, because I prefer moderates and lefties to the alternative (I know, the alternative you guys like).
B Moe, what’s your opinion on Newt?
I know, the alternative you guys like
– I always wnjoy watching the process when the latest newbie, right or Left starts out assuming this is a NeoConservative blog. Amusing.
I have mixed feelings about Newt personally. I think he would have been a good choice for RNC chair. The hard core right love him, he isn’t too off-putting to the middle, and he is a good strategist, particularly from a minority position. I don’t think he is electable in any major position, however. I don’t know how else to say this, but he just has a certain strangeness about him, you know?
I don’t like George Allen, either. That macaca deal was about the dumbest damn thing I have ever seen a politician do.
Yes, BBH, me too.
And BMoe, I agree with this:
I would be so excited to vote for Rudy, in a way I haven’t been excited to vote in a loooooong time.
“I would be so excited to vote for Rudy, in a way I haven’t been excited to vote in a loooooong time.”
– Sometimes I worry about you Maybee….
John Edwards? John Edwards?
The multimillionaire attorney whose career has helped make health insurance premiums beyond the reach of working poor?
The multimillionaire who bashes Walmart on a conference call after sending an unpaid volunteer to goad Walmart into letting the ex-Senator jump the queue ahead of mere regular Americans to obtain an electronic toy?
Aw, c’mon. We know you wouldn’t support a hair-spray damaged brain for President, really, would you?
I hope that I don’t insult anybody but… the day that I vote for a bloodsucking “I can hear the fetuses talking to me” trial lawyer will be the day that I wrap myself in cellophane, roll around in pine needles and throw myself into a compost pile.
John Edwards <shudder>
Rudy has two problems as a candidate: He cheated on his wife, which will offend socially-conserative Republicans, and he cheated on his wife with a woman, which will offend the Democrats.
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