Well, we all know how the election turned out. And, as if we didn’t know, the trolls are coming by to drop turds in the comments telling us all about it. I’m sure we’ll get a few hits on this post. They can’t help themselves.
I was a one-issue voter this time, just like in 2004. From all appearances, the Democrats are unserious about the war in Iraq and the war against radical Islam. The Dems think we an talk our way out of troubles with people who have already stated they want us either dead or under their complete control. And war is never and option, since all wars are now just like Viet Nam (a war lost for political reasons, not due to a lack of military success). What they seem to lack is an understanding that without war as an option, negotiations have absolutely no effect. “Do what we say or we’ll talk at you some more,” is laughable. I wish I could laugh about it.
The Bush administration failed to put forward their case forcefully enough, and apparently the majority of the people in this country don’t realize that insurgencies go on for years, and that only resolve can overcome them. Every loss of one of our men and women is bad, but the fact is that losses have been very low (chickenhawk retort incoming!). Perhaps if the war had been fought more brutally from the start, and we had rolled over the Iraqies and really done some damage, we might not be in this position. There is no way of knowing.
What really sucks is that people think all of Iraq is in chaos, when in reality most of Iraq is in relatively good shape. Only Bagdad has significant issues, and most of that is Sunnis fighting Shiites. Of course, that doesn’t stop the Dems and the MSM (redundancy alert) from telling the story differently, nor will it stop moonbats from posting links attempting to refute what I just claimed. The fact that many soldiers and civilians died during the insurgency in Germany after WWII is lost on them as well.
I think ahem has some pretty good predictions on what could happen, and what will happen if the Dems do what their leaders say they’re going to do. In the worst case scenario, we start pulling out troops early some time next year. Actually, it probably doesn’t matter when we start removing them, as long as the terrorists know we’re going to re-deploy remove all of the troops eventually, just like we did from Germany and Japan in around 1948 or so.
What? They’re still there? My bad.
Bush has a few months to get things in order. It’s possible that he can do it. If not, the troops will be withdrawn. Ahem’s predictions will come true. Iraq will probably end up as Iran’s puppet. There would eventually be new military or terrorist action in the region or a new attack here, and at that point our resolve will be tested again. If we have to return to the region, the body counts will be huge, and most of them will be Iraqis. Or those in control in the U.S. will continue to treat it as a criminal matter rather than an act of war. If that mindset continues, I envision that eventually the Islamists will bring the fighting to our shores. I know it sounds paranoid, but remember, they don’t care if they die if it brings on the caliphate, and they assume that a spineless government means a spineless people. We already allow the existance of gangs in most cities who roam around virtually lawless; I think Islamists can find a place like that too, if we let them.
However, until the Dems show their lack of resolve, I will try to have hope. In the best case scenario (otherwise known as the la-la land version), the Dems realize that they have the reigns now, and that they have to stop whining and start getting things done. If the lefties require the emotional support that being in power gives them to get Iraq into better shape, and by better shape I mean secure and in no danger of falling apart, so be it. My identity is not tied up in whether the Repubs are in control since they abandoned all fiscal restraint long ago. We can live with the even more profligate government spending which is just down the road. We can probably live with legislation against gun owners including the return of the “assult weapons” ban (though this is a major sore point with me) since such legislation can be overturned eventually. We cannot live with a policy that fails to keep Iraq from re-emerging as an Islamic dictatorship.
Let’s pray that once the Democrats realize that their words now have consequences, they will stop acting like children and take Iraq seriously. A slim hope, but a hope nonetheless.
Let’s pray they don’t do to Iraq what they did to South Vietnam.
I don’t know about you, ahem, but I’m going to Disneyworld with Rumsfeld.
For those who are all chummy now and who want the Majority to avoid going all mean and nasty, let me proffer a bi-partisan point;
Let’s gather up ALL (no mtter what party affiliation) those who traded their floor votes for earmarks, contracts or plain ol’ cash on the barrel-head, and DISGORGE their assets. We will create a fund for Iraq war vets and dependents.
Then we
place the criminals under house arrest in Section 8 housing and let them travel to their minimum-wage job on public transportation for 2-10 years. Since their love of money exceeds their love for the troops, it is a fitting end to a despicable crew.
Dan, you can call me a hopeless optimist if you’d like, but I still see this as a positive for the long haul. To wit:
– Looking at the majority of winning dem candidates, I see much more moderate temprament than hard left. Yesterday was a win for modrates, not the Left, which bodes well for a pulling back of the Dem core from the moonbat fevor swamps, no matter how you cut it.
– The hard Left for its part, proved beyond a doubt, they are eneffectual at this political game, having the ONLY loss in the Dem take-over in their column, something that will also not be lost on the core of the Dem party.
– The Dems have unintentionally handed us the perfect opportunity, dependent on their own effectiveness in the next two years, to mount a massive comeback. Isolationism, collectivism, massive increase’s in entitlements, and a 9/10 mentality in dealing with the WOT, is not the future. It’s entirely up to us, and how we deal with it all.
– I can hardly wait for the Dems to start feeling the heat.
Leo: Feel free to fuck off at any time.
There’s one common denominator in every leftist troll’s post on this blog: “We won. You lost. Bitches.”
As always and forever, not a shred of principle, not a ray of hope, not so much as a sentence of planning and a realistic promise for recovery.
Mark my words: The next two years will show us the ugliest collapse of far Left demagoguery in the history of the nation. These results notwithstanding, by 2008 the US will be so divided as to make us pray for a line down the middle and a moving van in the driveways of at least half of us.
The Republicans were cheap, cravenly sellouts. Over the next 24 months, the Democrats will out themselves, resembling the political sociopaths their enablers really are.
When your entire platform is based in empty promises, bankrupt policies, a universal lack of vision and principle, the result is already written.
The country spoke the only way it could against Republican incompetence. It in no way endorses leftist pathologies. Get ready to get involved, classic liberals. The only way to take this thing back at this late stage is for you—each and every one of you—to get yourself to your capitol and get busy.
In other words, what Semanticlio said. We’ve been SOLD OUT. They’re virtually all criminals. If it happens again, and it will, we have places for them.
Agreed. There’s already evidence of this—the hard left has NO mandate whatsoever although, God willing, they’ll act like it anyway and sink their own boat once and for all, taking the Party with them, sadly. I’m optimistic too, but we’ll certainly walk through the desert to reach a better place.
tw: feeling76
It will be interesting to see the regular Dems try to keep the Insane Leftoids locked in their cage. It’ll be a constant catfight between Jane Hamsher and Hillary Clinton. With any luck, Nancy Pelosi will have a nervous breakdown.
Great days for satire coming up.
“Feel free to fuck off at any time.”
Is there a problem, Nancy?
– 6G – They’re already screeching and ranting about the bastard “BLue dog Dems” over at the LiarDogFake swamp. There’s apparently been a running gun battle with the Dem campaign leadership, calling their own leader, Rahm
EmanuelDelay, and accussing him of taking all the “credit” Hampsher and Kos deserve in the election results.– This from the gaggle of misfits that managed the only loss yesterday. Lunacy run amok.
Perfect. Their moral bankruptcy is exceeded only by their flawed tactics. Must be damn hard to herd thieves and liars.
BTW, notice how there are no screams about rigged votes this time around? Funny, that more mature behavior from the losers this time around…
Believe it or not, almost all my Dem friends think, and have always thought, the hard left are a bunch of ideolog lunitics. I suppose that would make them “Blue dog Dems†also, which might hammer home just how small, and insignificant, the gaggle of moonbats really is. Just because they p[lay on the laim-brain MSM meme of “If it bleeds, it leads†for a lot of media face time, hardly reflects the true size of their following. It was bound to happen sooner or later, that their true influence, or rather lack there of, would float to the surface. They’re 0 for everything they’ve ever touched, and I think the core Dem party will be dumping their yoke of unhelpfullness, now that the Dems are back in power.
– You’re starting to see it already, and thats why all the screeching, hair pulling, and rending of clothes. They know full well what they lost with the Lieberman mess, and in yesterdays elections. Most of the Dem candidate winners are very much more moderate than left wing. Yesterday was a win for “centristsâ€Â, loud and clear, not the hard left.
– The biggest lesson to the Dem party leadership, is what they could have won, if only they would have played it centrist for the past 6 years instead of allowing all the moonbat craziness.
– Some Independents,and classic Liberals like myself, failed to vote for Dem candidates we might have otherwise yesterday, and that sort of reaction is exactly what the Dems will be cautious about from here on in. The hard Left’s days are all but over, except of course they’ll always be catnip for the Liberal press. It’s about all they’ll have left now, so expect troll hits and catterwalling to escalate.
BBh: I can’t wait to see the fireworks over the next two months as the progressives realize they’re allied to those famous ‘Bait and Switch’ Democrats. They already suspect Rahm Emanuel is the antichrist. Little do they know…
We haven’t seen the end of Virginia, yet. You can bet that if the RNCC thinks the Republicans should’ve taken it, it’ll do exactly what the Democrats do.
Still, people are talking about voting irregularitiesâ€â€Verified Voting is reporting cases of e-voting fraud, I’m receiving regular email updates from The National Election Data Archives about irregularities, &c. I think what we’re seeing is partly the result of 1) the margin of victory being too wide and 2) the advent of nationwide election watchdog groups like the ones I mentioned above.
captcha: hell69, which makes no sense at all.
Have you actually read this site? Overcompensating, pseudo-intellectual internet geeks don’t exactly have much standing to lecture ANYONE on maturity.
Unless you big swingin’ dicks have a message besides “the Republicans weren’t conservative ENOUGH” you’ll continue to be ignored. Carry on.
Like you just did?
You guys are pure entertainment for me. I’m sure the average American could give two whits about a bunch of tough-talking E-thugs masturbating together on a blog.
I’m done with you, lee. Your money is on the dresser.
heet: Enjoy the moment, you sniveling little pimp. Nothing lasts forever.
Heet’s got a lot to be sniveling about, too.
I hear that Bush, Boehner, and Senate Republicans have plans to leverage the centrist capitalists away from the Democratic Party’s leftist, anti-war wing.
They’ll use three levers: a campaign to down-size the Federal government, an escalation of military involvement in Iraq’s internal affairs, and tax-policy.
Heet’s got the vaseline out, six-crisp Benjamins are in the ash-tray, and the doorbell just rang, but, already the doubt is setting in.
We’re all watching and wondering. Can he keep it up long enough to get his money’s worth?
-Steve
You bedwetters never cease to amuse me.
Here’s a hearty fuck you losers.