Catch it!
More below the fold.
And surrender is in our code . . .
And we’ve got video to prove it . . .
It does have the virtue of simplicity.
Tell me you don’t get that vibe from him.
OK, now I’m just getting mean.
Catch it!
More below the fold.
And surrender is in our code . . .
And we’ve got video to prove it . . .
It does have the virtue of simplicity.
Tell me you don’t get that vibe from him.
OK, now I’m just getting mean.
Let Joe at the Dartblog know. He loves him his Mothra.
Because stayin’ the course is making America sooooo much safer?
monkyboy, that stuff stuck in your fur? It’s shit.
Good suggestion monkyboy, but I think that’s more a Republican slogan:
America. No terrorist attacks since 2001!
or should it be
America! No terrorists attacks since 2001.
Hmmm, I think the first one’s better (the second one’s more a PA announcement than a slogan).
/still waiting for monkyboy’s answer to Major John’s question.
Bush has made our borders ssooooo secure…there’s no way terrorists could get into America now?
Miguel the busboy is not a terrorist MB. Now give him a nice tip. He cleaned your table very well.
Everyone chant after me, resources, resources, resources.
We don’t need no stinking plan, we’ll just give ‘em resources. resources, resources, resources
– I don’t usually respond to the Lefts dipshit carping, because its just ankle biting to look like you’re really saying something, or hide the fact your wagon is empty of idea’s. But it’s laughable watching the hopping foot to foot with the screed of the week.
– Week “A”: “Bush is stubbornly staying the course, and won’t shift as things on the ground change. He’s not flexible enough to counter the change of the insurgency, and secular threats.”
– Week “B”: “Bush isn’t being specific enough, and laying out every detail, including iron clad guarentee’s of dates of exit. He’s bouncing around too much with no plan specifics.”
– They’re doing the same thing they did with Afghanistan and Iraq. Afghanistan was a “quagmire”, and we were fighting it all wrong, and we never should have gone in there. Now Iraq ia the quagmire, and Afghanistan is cool.
Whatever the fuck he’s doing, he should be doing something else. Whereever we’re fighting, we should be fighting somewhere else.
– As Coulter said, Maybe the easiest way to help the Left with their pantywaist angst, and make Iraq a winner would be to attack Iran.
Iran won the day we invaded Iraq, BBh.
Iraq is 60% Shiite…couldn’t the Republicans afford a $5 calculator outta their half trillion dollar of pork the “defense” dept. get every year?
“Iraq is 60% Shiite”
– Yes. yes it is monkeyshit. and heres a few more things to ponder:
– Iran is ruled over by a litteral handfull of shite’ extremist Imam’s, hanging on by their finger nails.
– Why do you suppose they would feel a tad nervous with a large shite’ populace right next door going Democratic, even a Turkish style Democracy. Do you suppose they might feel their days were numbered if they didn’t do everything they could to see it defeated?
– Take your time….
Murtha–Because of the–aw nuts, I think I shit myself…
Murtha!–Because he doesn’t give a Shi’ite!
– and BTW – I noticed as usual you veered off from my original comment. I’m guessing because you know how stupid the foot dance of the Dems, and your lap dog press look, when they get their wires crossed week after week, and start walking on their own feet, because it’s just so damn hard to keep all those empty balls in the air at once.
…Admit it Bob. you have no idea where China is do you….
(Now you can screech and rip the map down off the billboard if you’d like)
Hehe, BBh,
You’re the one quoting Ann Coulter and you think I’m stupid?
She just spews that crap to make a buck…what’s your excuse?
monky – try closer to 80% shi’a. So how about that Grand Ayatollah Sistani huh?
I am starting to lose any hope for you, monky.
Are you saying the Indiana National Guard has better facts than the CIA, Maj. John?
Muslim 97% (Shi’a 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian or other 3%
http://tinyurl.com/tdq9j
– Better to argue demographic distribution right monkey. As usual, you make a shallow, reductionist, over-simplistic statement, get your ass handed to you, and off you go on another subject. Then you make your ignornace profound in the usual Lefturd way, with ad hominems.
– The next time you wonder to yourself why the Left isn’t going anywhere you might think about your aversion to any real debate, never mind maybe learning a few things. No one is anxious to turn the reins of power over to immature, inexperienced children.
– It’s a tired, old, overused tactic, and you need some new tricks. Honesty might work, if you understood the concept.
By all means, declare Mission Accomplished, BBh…if it helps.
I can’t even understand what your point is…
Do you actually think we’ve brought democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan?
If so, let’s leave and start spending the $120+ billion a year we’ve been spending on those countries on America now.
If not, why not? What’s gonna cahnge after five years?
– Well one thing that ceratinly will continue apace monkyhead, is the feckless bewilderment of the Left in it’s headlong rush to political oblivion.
Yeah, the Democrats are gonna do sooooo badly in two weeks…
“If so, let’s leave and start spending the $120+ billion a year we’ve been spending on those countries on America now.”
– Yes we know that’s what it’s all about for the Lefturds monkey. Fuck the war, it’s eating into the public dole. I don’t think the great slackers club of America, otherwise known as the “Socialists”, would give a shit if Bush was signing the welfare checks, the Ayatollah Sistani, or Fidel. The “freebee’s club” is where it’s at for you and your gaggle, because, well you know, there is no threats to America.
– There’s a delusional, full of crap, up to their ass in pefidy group alright, and it’s not the Republicans.
– Oh yes…yes….the Dems are going to really make it from half court, all net. Yes. I want you and the rest of you band of backstabbing idiotarians to prance and beam, and pat yourselves on the back as much as possible. Biuild it up and crow. Yes. More and faster please. *chuckle*
BBh,
When the Pittsburgh Steelers take on a Pee Wee football team and can only manage a tie…the first person that should go is the Steeler’s coach.
As America can’t replace its coach for a couple years, we’re about to do the next best thing…replace some assistant coaches and hope for the best.
– Then you’ll learn why the best defense is a good offense…..even a peewee league coach knows that….
– If I had a dollar for ever country that thought isolation behind the walls of the fortress was the answer, I’d make Gates look like a street urchin….
The Rising Star, Texas chapter of the Boy Scouts of America may very well have better facts about Iraq than the CIA. Certainly the Kiwanis of that metropolis is highly likely to—after all, they have members who have actually been there.
Stuff you don’t see at moonbat central, monky: the Grand Ayatolla Sistani is an Iranian. The reason he’s in Iraq is because (a) he wanted to try to support the Shi’ia in Iraq when Saddam was running things and (b) his opinion of the mullahs running Iran is lower than mine or Major John’s. He has the closest thing to a “separation of Church and State” ideology available in Islam today.
Muqtada al Sadr had a powerful daddy, but flunked out of mullah school for inability to pay attention. His motive is to Be In Charge. Think of him as Nancy Pelosi with a beard.
I don’t make election predictions. I know who I’m going to vote for—not George Bush; funny, I’ve seen the absentee ballot, and his name isn’t on it anywhere. But I wish you and your cronies would continue to gloat in advance. If I were the least inclined to go your way, the glee with which you anticipate winning would put me in mind to vote for someboy, anybody else.
Regards,
Ric
“Think of him as Nancy Pelosi with a beard.”
– Or, conversly, think of her as him with more wrinkles….
That’s just great, Ric,
But Sadr is next in line to become Iraq’s Grand Ayatolla when old man Sistani kicks it in a few years.
So he will soon control the most powerful army in Iraq and be the spiritual leader of 60% of Iraq’s population…
Not even lil’ Bush can dream of that much power.
I think you may not be so happy in awhile monkey. Sadr is about an inch away from the cliff, and so’s his “army”. He’s too caught up in his own head to realize it….
Bullshit. You’re projecting again—and can’t even manage to Anglicize the name correctly. (Which is important for you, of course, because by failing to render it correctly you de-emphasize a major problem al-Sadr has.) Muqtada al Sadr isn’t even an imam, the PFC of Shi’ia cleristry. I’m as qualified to be Grand Ayatolla as Mookie is. Which is why he’s organizing the “Mahdi Army” instead of sitting on his butt writing fatwas.
Pay attention.
Regards,
Ric
I’ve been hearing that for three years now, BBh.
As Sasr controls one of the largest blocs in the Iraqi Parliament…
If we move against him, we’ll just confirm the belief of a majority of Iraqis that the U.S. military is actually just a poorly-run Christian militia.
..and the American Left….. you left them out of the raging stupidity you sited monkey…..
…Just remember while you’re doing the goat dance to the great Marx head monkey….He who actually wins elections wins best….
monky – I don’t why you are talking about the Indiana Guard – I’m not in the Indiana Guard. Do try to pay the least bit of attention. What is left of the Sunni is probably 20% right now. The tiny fragment of “other” don’t add up to much. That leaves nearly 80% Shi’a.
You really are embarrassing yourself when you try to talk Shi’a hierarchy too – read up a bit before trying again. Ric was actually rather gentle in chiding you for your deep and abiding ignorance on the subject.
I have to say you have disappointed me. I expected someone walking in and braying so loudly would at least have a couple of things to say with a fact or two to back them up. But, as I say, I have been disappointed so far.
We aren’t going to “move” against al Sadr.
When and if the Iraq Government decides to do so we will back them, but that’s by no means the same thing—except in the propaganda he will put out and you will dutifully repeat.
And if they decide that he’s a tolerable irritant (probable) or even that he’s representative of a significant segment of Iraqi society, and conclude that he’s to be let alone, well, it’s their society. We manage to get along with Sharpton, inter alia.
There’s a goodish segment of American society that thinks in imperialist terms, often without realizing it. Many of them are Rightists, but by no means all; I’m not even sure it’s a majority. Somebody moaning that we don’t have enough troops in Iraq to shut the place down and provide security is an absolutely certain marker for imperialist ambitions.
George Bush is not an imperialist, nor are any of his top advisors. They have no intention of owning and operating Iraq. We already have Puerto Rico. Why would we want another one, ten times as big and fifty times as far away? There was never any intention on their part (positive reluctance to the point of obstinacy, in fact) to do a massive shutdown of Iraqi society and governance, replacing it with American administration. In the long term that would be a total loss—the Brits did it several times, to no permanent gain.
I’m beginning to suspect, though, that that’s what the Democrats would do if they had the chance. It absolutely matches the rest of their ideology—de poo widdle Iwakis cain’t hannelit, so it’s only compassionate to do it for them, and the only possible favorable outcome is one that looks, in the end, like Southside Chicago. If Democrats gain power and the cut-n-runners don’t gain the acendancy, that’s where my money goes. It’ll look good in the short term, which is all that matters to people like monky, with a mental age of about eleven and an attention span measured in picoseconds without exponents. And a program like that would look like a “serious proposal” the cut-n-runners could at least tolerate, if not get behind, as well as appealing to the less thoughtful of the Right.
Wonder how many Iraqi children they will be willing to kill when they “get serious in Iraq”?
Regards,
Ric
Ric,
If we want to maintain the illusion that Maliki is actually in charge of the Iraqi military, we should at least let him know when he “orders” attacks against his political rivals.
Maj. John,
I expected someone walking in and braying so loudly would at least have a couple of things to say with a fact or two to back them up.
I could say the same thing about Bush and the Pentagon and their adventures in Muslimland.
– What you saw was Maliki establishing his bonifides, by standing up to America pressure. You’ll be seeing a lot of that in the coming months. You have such a poor grasp of the “nuances” monkknob, you’re not even up with some of your Liberal lap dog press, some of whom tried to use that fact as an embarrissment in todays news comference, but it fell sort of flat. Pretty bad when you know even less than a biased reporter.
– What we need to do is hope we can keep him alive long enough for him to move against the various troublemaker groups. That’s really the crux of the matter. The rest is fairly straightforward, as long as the Left doesn’t fuck up the works too badly.
Heh. How good is Howard Dean at keeping all Democrats on message?
I never expected that there would never be crossed wires, never be people operating at cross-purposes, never be mistakes. If you did, you’re a fool. If you think Bush et al did, you’re an idiot and a sorehead to boot.
Some of the people we go after, for reasons of our very own, are absolutely guaranteed to be political opponents of one or another faction. This is because they picked a Parliamentary system, and one of the downsides of a Parliamentary system is that it generates factions the way fleas generate itches. But they picked it, and they get to live with it, because George Bush is not an imperialist.
Maliki is at least as much in charge as anybody could be in so chaotic a situation.
What is it with you guys and tyrants, anyway? For the first half-century of my life I constantly heard criticism to the effect that propping up tyrants for short-term stability was cruelty to The People and shortsighted to boot. One morning George Bush gets up and announces that that’s absolutely right, that we aren’t going to do that any more, and that we’re going to concentrate on trying to do away with or undermine the tyrannies. Instantaneously, it seems, the entire Left and fringe-progg Establishment started issuing fulsome compliments to “well-run tyrannies” and agitating for them to be left well alone—while simultaneously acting as if the announcement had never been made and the policy never changed, so “arming Saddam” was both significant and relevant.
Pick one, dammit. This isn’t Kos.
Regards,
Ric
Which means, once again, that it has precluded you from saying anything worthwhile, or answering any questions posed to you… I am about to give up on you for good. Actually, the lazy part of me wants to just sit back and watch Ric continue to rub your nose in it…
Ric – It’s the endless carping, and script of the obstructionist opposition, who, having nothing but the shirt on their backs, politically, have to be in action somehow. Look relevant. Seem involved. But predominantly, badmouth at every opportunity, the constant drumbeat of “He’s not right”, propped up by the most extreme absurdities of shifting bromides, and snappy oxymorons like “win the peace”. At times I’m actually embarrissed for them, but then I think of the motives behind it all, and they will deserve what they get.
– monkey – no matter how hard you try, you’ll never turn this country into France-West. what you will do is be lucky to survive, hiding in the Democratic party. In the long run, saner heads will prevail.
Can we drop the pretense that the Iraqis chose the form of government they have now?
Can we drop the pretense that you, and your Leftist bretheren, care one way or another?
BBH,
I wish I could be sure of that.
This is an instance of something that occasionally keeps me awake at night, and has since the Seventies. We have an all-volunteer army. This is, IMO, a good thing, but pretending that it has no downside is foolish. Everything has a downside. The best sex in the world means you have to change the sheets.
What’s happened with the volunteer Army is that a substantial chunk of the population doesn’t participate. This is something I don’t think the architects anticipated—that we would have whole cities, Hell, whole states, who just don’t volunteer, out of ideology or laziness or indignant egotism. And, as they become more and more distant from the experience, their stereotypes and misconceptions get shared and reinforced, until you get people like monky, who not only don’t understand how the military works, but have beliefs and preconceptions that are directly contradictory to the real facts—but they have political power, and our military is (as it should be) subordinate to the political.
The result of that is crap like people bragging about how nice Clinton was to the military because he built base housing and increased pay and gave everybody berets, while the actual military people I knew during that period were livid at having to buy spare parts at Radio Shack (on their own nickel, neatly canceling the pay raise) and being treated like scum. The same people tend to be isolationists, and a goodish number are negative jingoes, people who will tell you that the United States is to blame for every evil that ever happens, right down to the Chinese killing off girl babies in villages in the Gobi.
The result of that is an increased estrangement between the military (and those who understand and support it) and the monkys. For now, the center is holding—but it’s hard for me to see a way in which it won’t corrode and erode over time. If it breaks, what we’re gonna get is Bolivarism. It’ll be so easy. After all, the people who diss the military have also disarmed themselves, and pat themselves on the back for it…
I won’t live to see it, but I fear that my son might.
And with that cheery thought, I’m off to bed. Whistle a bit; it echoes so nice off the stones.
Regards,
Ric
Give me a break, Ric.
The U.S. military is no better equipped to turn Iraq into a democracy than the Girl Scouts or the cast of a broadway musical are.
Why should we continue to fund such a massive failure?
– Well as with all unforeseen consequences, the effects of an all-volunteer military certainly has its share, but there are others. One of them is time, that which all men have only a limited amount of, including the Muslim extremists, in spite of their contentions to the contrary.
– One of the problems that will always plague the Left, the soft Marxists that infest legitimate parties, and plant their seeds of sidition, is that pesky thing called time.
– At some moment or other, the author of which ever subjugating theme is the fad of the moment, will not be able to resist the urge to overplay his hand. That has pissed in the Left’s political agenda cornfklakes countless times, and will again, and at the most inauspicious moment, if history is any guide.
– I believe there’s an unseen hand that moves, to that end, for what ever reason, choose your poison, but its there, always has been, and with any luck always will be. Tyrrants, and their party’s of agenda, can always be counted on to follow that pattern, even though we’re often unaware of it, and assign that effect with other names.
Parting shots —
Something I can agree with. Too bad the assumption underneath it is completely wrong. Few bus drivers are qualified to advise the guy in 4B whether or not taking the Jablonsi contract will be a step toward promotion.
The Iraqis have to turn Iraq into a democracy. No one else can do it. The military, as a military, can only keep the worst of the raff off while they try. That same military is composed of American citizens, and as Americans they have advice to offer based on over two centuries of experience. Y’know, nuance. Multitasking, if you will.
A little superficial agreement is a good thing. It keeps us from shooting at one another. Physical separation is useful in that way, too.
G’night all.
Regards,
Ric
P&I, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, let me explain why all of the most intelligent commentators on this blog have virtually zero respect for you and your crap.
These blogs are designed to express ideas backed by sources. Those ideas expressed are debated by counter ideas, backed by sources. The best commentators here (ric, Major John, BBH, ahem, Dan, et al) spend some time actually articulating their positions. That involves doing more than just throwing out a one or two sentence position and then run chattering back to your tree house to groom your brother.
People here are taking the time (actually wasting time) engaging you in a debate of ideas and policies. You, being a lazy sub-simian and following the Kos/Huff-Po template, take no time to expand upon your little snarks nor to even justify your wildest assertations. Your constant nipping at Major John about the situation in Afganistan is the most aggregious example. The rest of us look to him for insight and understanding because, unlike you or me, he was actually there!
You have the worst kind of prejudice because you are an idea bigot. You would denigrate any institution (the military as welfare), sully any reputation (remember asking the major how many patrols he was on?) and denigrate any memory (WWII) because you think that you are right and, oh by the way, America sucks. Nothing else matters. In my mind, that’s a great definition of bigotry.
Now let me anticipate your response (and, in the process, creep out john, BBH and several others)
hehe
perhaps it might be considered bigotry to invade muslimland and kill 600,000 civilians.
or bigotry to spend 500 billion on military welfare while our children don’t have health care.
So, did I get it right? What does it say about the length and breadth of your writing skills that with a minimal use of brain power I can write exactly like you?
BTW: what the hell were we discussing??? Oh, yea! Murtha, what a maroon!!!
It’s a rather brittle argument the prowar crowd has to make in favor of continuing our operations in Afghanistan and Iraq these days, BJ.
Ya gotta put on rose-colored glasses, put in just the right light and squint real hard to see any chance of it being right.
As for the U.S. military, I think of it as a once-great pitcher playing in the World Series and coughing up home run after home run…
Time for them to hit the showers before they ruin their legacy…and cost their team the championship.
Your honor, the prosecution in this competancy trial rests…
What color glasses do you need to believe if we ignore the problem it will just fade away?
Yeah, over-running a couple of police precincts and almost managing to hold them, that is a big league military operation right there.
Don’t forget, B Moe, the fifty to one Taliban to Nato troop casualty ratio. Combine that with a complete inability to hold any important town in Afganistan for longer than 48 hours and you have the makings of a military juggernaut.
So much laughing is good for the heart…
The Taliban weren’t a threat to America, BJ…we went into Afghanistan to hunt terrorists, remember?
The insurgents in Iraq aren’t a threat to us either…they just want us out of their country…
Hello? (Knock, knock.) Is anybody home?
– I thought we aggreed to stipulate your side doesn’t give a fuck about the WOT monkeypuke, you don’t even believe it exists. Why do you go on yammering about all the reasons something doesn’t exist, by siting reason after reason we need to pretend it doesn’t. Sounds like a rather foolish position. If it doesn’t exist, and you don’t care, then you have nothing to say about it, right?.
If the U.N. decided to invade America…would any of you guys shoot at them?
The UN would be too busy running, hiding, looking for children to rape or things to steal – if we promised to kill a bunch of our own civilians they’d hold the door open on the busses to take them away…
Got to spend a little time in ‘97 in a town that was a monument to UN military power – Sarajevo, name ring a bell?
Wouldn’t need too monkeyface. Just refuse to validate their parking stubs, and let America’s finest do the rest. One day in a NY traffic court, and they’ll be looking for someplace less hostile to invade.
They seem to be doing a good job keeping Israel and Hezbollah apart..
– You mean covering for the Hezzies while they smuggle arms in from Syria, and Iran. Yes they’re doing a great job with that.
– Are you really that full of self-loathing and that blind. Simply amazing.
Ok, fess up, monkyboy. you really are Jeff Goldstein pimping the site for hit statistics.
Aren’t you? Because, if not, nobody could possibly that ignorant and uninformed.
Maybe you could explain to me how some peasant armed with a $10 assult rifle living in the mountains of Afghanistan or some small town in Iraq is a threat to America.
After six years and half a trillion dollars, have we managed to capture or kill a single person who was actually a threat to America?
But wouldn’t Jeff just post if he wanted to boost the site statistics? And if you employ a sock puppet who’s obnoxious to your visitors, is it still a sock puppet?
Jeff’s an inventive guy, but I don’t think that he’d be able to come up with that. It’s just so, so . . . superverismilar to itself, and nothing else.
– Sorry monkeydump. I simply don’t respond to intentionally minimalist bromides, thereby giving them even a tiny bit of validity. Look at your premise and question, the intemperate, agenda driven tone of that simpleton thinking, and then ask yourself again why the Left just isn’t taken seriously.
– Take your time.
Claiming that taking out peasants is making America safer might have something to do with why the Republicans aren’t taken seriously on national security issues anymore, BBh.
Ric,
To paraphrase a genius, the one thing no country can survive is a second rate military. We now have the best military that has existed on the face of the planet because it is all voluteer and the people in it are professionals at their trade. Conscripts are good for little more than fodder and today’s military has no room whatsoever for fodder. The bigger danger is to foist people that are disgruntled at having to serve off on a professional corps. That’s how people get killed.
Now, that said, your point is quite true. We seem to have made the mistake of creating a few generations of meat eaters that not only don’t want to be the butcher but don’t want the butcher to exist. Hash-hish dreams if ever there were any. I don’t know the solution but conscription is NOT the answer.
As to my bona-fides to hold an opinion; Marine NCO during the Carter years (yes, weap for me), Air Force Officer during the Reagan years (yes, cheer for my good fortune). The only reason I’m not on active duty today is papa Bush’s RIF in 1992.
– The Wahhbist leadership uses the peasentry at will to do it’s bidding. In fact, people are less than weeds to the Islamofascits “Jihad/Celiphate” ambitions. So they jack them up on Secular propeganda, and drugs sometimes, using America as the convieniant “Great Devil”, and send them forth.
The men that were piloting the planes on 9/11 were “peasents” by your own definition. None of the “Leaders” managed to attend the party. Even the one exception somehow managed to not get aboard. No one is fooled, in spite of your efforts to aid the enemies propaganda war, in advance of the Lefts agenda.
– While we’re on the “asking questions” meme, name one thing the Left has done in any regard to support America since 9/11 in the WOT.
Well,
The Blue States do pay far more taxes than y’all, BBh.
You think we could afford to spend a half a trillion a year on “defense” without the tax revenue from California and New York?
I believe the Red States got their name because they receive far more federal money than they pay in taxes…
I see the “wars” as the equivalent of the “newspapers” the homeless give you when you give them a donation.
Strangely, though, it’s Republicans who are rich.
All right, WTF.
Al qa’eda had safe haven support from the Taliban. It allowed then to train thousands of terrorists in relative comfort (by middle eadt standards.) Keeping the Taliban out of Afganistan allows us insurnace that that won’t happen again.
Which also works in Iraq. 3 foreign training camps terrorists were destroyed and their occupants killed or captured (liked previously, so screw you and use google.) Placing a representative, democratic government allowa another sxafe haven toi be denied to foreign terrorists making it much harder to properly train and equip them. They wish to take on the military sothey are being fed into the hopper in both countries. In the meantime, no attacjs on American soil since 9/11, but several foiled inspite of aopur terrible border situation.
Let’s also not forget that both of these actions have yielded us hundreds of high level prisoners and reams of valuable intellegence> These have also allowed us to interdict attacks all around the world. This doesn’t even include the scaring of Pakistan and Libya into playing ball. Iran is posturing because they can read our newspapers and see the backbiting from the left and the MSM. Their time will come.
I’m in a blue state and we get plenty of tax dollars. The idea, without backup, that red states get more tax dollars is just something that you made up.
– I think your pulling idea’s out of your ass monky, just to have something to say. The truth is that within a few days after 9/11, before the bodies of 2700+ innocent American’s were even in the ground, your gaggle of fucktwit anti-American Eurosucks were hard at it.
– You still don’t understand that the advent of high speed, widespread, instantaneous communications, has killed the “Big Lie” in Lie’beral. You don’t have a monopoly on public discourse anymore, but your idiotarian cult seem’s to be the only people that are still unaware of that. It’s become almost impossible to stifle the truth and free speech, so your Utopian dreams are simply fucked.
The Taliban also offered to hand bin Laden and his pals over to Bush after 9/11, BJ.
Bush declined and began a pointless war in its sixth year now instead…
I leave the speculation as to why to the psychics on the Right.
– Links monkey? Because I’ve never seen that written anywhere so you must have explosive imformation no one else in America is privy too, and that would certainly be a damning revelation, so by all means, link please.
I think they offered to trade him for Whitney Houston, is what the deal was. Bush couldn’t find anybody in black ops with the balls to take Whitney on, unfortunately.
My memory is telling me lemurboy is not telling the whole story. Of course, if he only got it second- or thirdhand anyway, he probably doesn’t know the whole story.
At any rate, there was no chance we were going to accept any deal that let the Taliban continue to behead girls for learning to read.
I think you’ve stumbled on a way to get rid of monkeybot, BBH.
Ask him to substantiate his point.
Here ya go guys:
The Taliban yesterday renewed their offer to hand Bin Laden over to a neutral Islamic country for trial, if there is proof of his crimes. Washington has described the old plan as inadequate.
http://tinyurl.com/y479pz
If only we’d done the deal…woulda saved a lot of money and death.
Speaking of Murtha…whatever happened to the Haditha report he was accused of…something?
We’re coming up on a year since that incident occured.
from the same article:
sounds forceful.
or there’s this a day later.
[url=”http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/22/wtal22.xml” target=”_blank”]
We won’t hand over bin Laden, say defiant Taliban[/url]
Huh?
You mean he has answered questions from anyone else?
George Bush is not neutral, he is not Islamic, and he is not a country. You need to pick up on these nuances.
looks like the Haditah incedent is still being investigated.
Wait, Maggie–is that Telegraph article still on the internet? Because if it is, that pretty much proves it.
nah, Dan, I just made it up, that’s why the html fairies screwed it up.
Let’s tweek this analogy a bit to make it something approaching accurate.
When the Pittsburgh Steelers take on a Pee Wee football team where the Pee Wees get to put their entire roster on the field and rock throwers in the stands, and the Steelers are restrained to “two-below” touch rules with a “5-Mississippi” count before rushing the QB….
That’s better. Now where did you want to go with this?
Would it be… The Steelres are still going to win, but it’ll take some time to adjust to the situation, it won’t be pretty and probably an uncomfortable game to watch.
Too bad time expired about a year ago, RTO…
he says to the guy posting from kandahar.
Too bad you can’t get your little pinhead around the idea that time doesn’t expire, this isn’t a game. The struggle will continue whether you are willing to fight or not.
It’s called history.
Life in the foodchain.
You’re calling time? This thing has maybe reached the 1st quarter. The majority of the time is still on the clock.
Somebody famous once said something profound about “the end of the beginning…?”
Hmmm, now this sounds like the Iraq I’ve heard about. My question is, if the Pee Wee fans are all throwing rocks at you, it would seem they don’t want you there, so…
why play?
Oh, right, to bring them Democracy… and John Murtha doesn’t want that, because he’s on speaking terms with bin forgotten and over tea last month they figured out that if the “terrorists” in Iraq kill a bunch more US troops America will vote for the Democrats… because, lemme see if I get this straight… the Democrats will let the terrorists turn the middle east into one big al qaeda trainging camp.
Of course, any fool could have figured that out. And anybody who disagrees with that assessment, like Batiste, or Hackworth, or US intelligence is a sore loser sour grape wishin he had a beter job America Hatin traitor…
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Monkey boy, why do you stick around here…. don’t you know anything about pearls before swine? This is like rattling the monkey cage, it might be fun for a while, but what good does it do. These are the 33%. They get their news from Jesus.
Glad I found this site. Think I’ll just troll on through before I get any of this on me…
If absolutely nothing else. Because you finish what you start.
T
Ah. You didn’t learn that lesson growing up.
Dear Scroff:
Apparantly being a “Freedom Loving American” gives you the freedom to be an ass and a bigot at the same time. Nice job!
Because, you know, we conservative types are “all the same.” The problem you have here, Mr. Tolerant, is that this site is run by a guy who is…wait for it…Jewish! Do you suppose he’s dialing up the Son of God right now to double check his data? Also, Mr. Prejudice, many members on this site are agnostics and atheists who might not be thrilled with your characterization of their data mining as coming from the divine.
But, then again, what are we to expect from a Freedom Loving Bigot who cares oh so much about Iraqi civilians but so very little about anyone else. You back monkeyboy, a troll who has declared the military to be no better than welfare, thinks WWII ended on June of 1944 and truly believes that the attacks on 9/11 were no big deal. Nice neighborhood you have there, Freedom Loving Bigot.
What you got on your fur was the splatter from whatever other poo flinging, bigoted screeds you participated in before. Go back to your sorry ass website and toss your feces with the other bigoted, moonbat, leftist turds that make you feel at home and leave the debate to those who of us who like facts rather than prejudice. And, geez, learn to spell fer cryin’ out loud.
BA BYE!