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(Un)Framing the Sign

If one were to believe the commenters visting here from progressive sites over the last several days, my various suggestions that the propagation of ideas, memes, and particular narratives can have actual, empirical, real-world consequences…well, that’s just crazy talk!, some kind of a wingnut fantasy—like, say, an all white world, or a barefoot woman baking pies in every kitchen. 

It matters not to these skeptics of certain well-established ideas of the necessary conjoining of epistemology and rhetoric—ideas, I should point out, that have been widely disseminated in both their postmodern and structuralist forms by intellectuals on the left (see, for instance, Hayden White, or Frederic Jameson’s Marxian The Political Unconscious, especially his idea of metanarrative, which seems particularly apposite as one skims through a series of remarkably similar “progressive” critiques)—that the vast majority of information is gleaned and assimilated through cultural heteroglossia, with a particular narrative often gaining the upperhand and becoming, for the majority of the culture, the dominant frame of reference. 

Suddenly, all of this is pure bunk (a “gem” of “blame shifting”)—intellectual piffle that many on the left have spent the last 40 years describing and advocating, but which they now wish to distance themselves from, having decided that words, rhetorical formulations, and the framing of narratives matter not a whit:  almost 4 years of negative media coverage, partisan backbiting, and the shaping of the administration’s persona by both the press and the Democratic party (Buscho = liars who keep secrets and who are systematically taking away our civil liberties in a power hungry attempt to take over the world, install a Christian theocracy here at home, and herd the sheeple into pens, so that a very few rich Republican neocons can eat caviar off of toast points while laughing at the misery of the proles), the argument goes, have had no effect on shaping public opinion, and, regardless of what the International Crisis Group says (or, for that matter, what the terrorists themselves say), somehow the argument coming from many the left these days is that their words and actions have no consequences.  Though, sadly, the same cannot be said for the government, whose every step alienates and offends nearly every civilized human on the planet and turns them against us.

But be that as it may. 

Anway, I bring all this up by way of introducing a pair of essays that deal with just many of the questions we’ve been discussing here of late.  First, here’s Daniel Henninger, writing in the WSJ.  From “So one may ask: Has Washington gone insane?”:

[…] This persistent belief that George Bush committed a major moral crime, which was refuted by the Robb-Silberman Commission, had consequences. It has led many people in Washington’s standing institutions—Congress, the press, the intelligence and foreign-policy bureaucracies—to think they’ve been released from operating inside the normal boundaries that allow political Washington to function, that allow partisans to do business, whether on foreign policy, Social Security or homeland security.

Over the Bush years that code has been displaced by a new ethos that to resist policies that flowed from such a “lie,” anything goes—such as leaks about the most sensitive national security programs or published “dissents” by recently retired CIA officials like Paul Pillar. Compare this ethos to that of the U.S. intelligence community that ran the Venona program, producing invaluable signals intelligence on Soviet espionage activities from 1943 onward without any participant revealing its existence. No such achievement is imaginable now.

Instead every issue that emerges becomes an illegitimate extension of the original “lie”—the NSA wiretaps, the Guantanamo detentions, Abu Ghraib, terrorist interrogation techniques, the Plame affair. This is a dangerous game. Raised to this level, policy becomes a super-heated moral Armageddon that makes mere politics impossible to manage. One then might ask: Do you want this government to fail? To which a tragicomic response is appropriate: Are you insane?

The idea Henninger puts forth here essentially mirrors that of Jameson’s metanarrative — in this case, “a framework upon which an individual’s own experiences and thoughts may be ordered”—which, once adopted, influences the way all of the individual integral narratives (the various stories—from Abu Ghraib to WMD to WP) are framed, ordered, and assigned a subjective importance based on how well they reinforce the grand overarching (master) narrative.

And it is becoming increasingly clear, at least to me, that part of the master narrative of the anti-war left is to deny that the kind of anti-war dissent I and others have criticized (which does not included legitimate criticisms based on policy, strategy, tactics, but rather is directed at the repetition of discredited memes, out of context quotes, deliberate falsehoods, and an ends-justify-the-means Machiavellian approach to ending what they consider to be an unjust war), has had no effect on the war at all—either on weakening public resolve, or on emboldening the Iraqi insurgents or al Qaeda as an organization.

That is, they have begun including in their narrative of the war the new meme that any criticism of their influence is based on a denial of responsibility by warmongers for their exclusive blame in the “failure” that is Iraq, a blame that derives from their Cult-like support of President who instigated—by way of a “lie”—a venture that was destined to fail right from its “illegal” inception. 

On that point, here’s neo-neocon, discussing how and why some of these integral narratives—all of which support the anti-war metanarrative—develop and take hold.  From “Fear: charges and counter-charges (the only thing we have to fear is…)”:

[…] Concerns about the dangers posed by terrorists, hesitations about the wisdom of press leakage of possibly sensitive security material, all of these must be labeled as unwarranted fears—as Alexandra explains, “as some sort of phobia”– so that they can safely be ignored to pursue a different agenda. And what is that agenda?

It seems to have two interrelated parts. The first is to have a role in bringing down a detested President—and in this, there is precedent. Apparently, the Times is aching to relive its dragon-slayer days (Richard Nixon being the original dragon): the publication of the Pentagon Papers, when the Supreme Court upheld the Time‘s right to do so despite government claims of national security threats. The aftermath of this lawsuit helped to bring Nixon down—with his own guilty cooperation, of course, since the Watergate burglary was motivated partly by a desire to get the goods on Pentagon Papers leaker Ellsberg (see this).

[…]

But I mentioned that the “neocons are motivated by fear” accusation has a second (although absolutely related) agenda, and that is fear of the consequences of overreaching by the executive branch of the government. Many conservatives have this fear, too (and libertarians are extraordinarily sensitive to it). But it’s a question of at what point each group draws the line between acceptable intrusions and unacceptable ones, and what they might consider justification for those intrusions. National security is far more likely to be considered a justification by conservatives than by liberals or leftists, who have a history of seeming to actively downplay such concerns.

The legacy of Vietnam is that the left has a lingering mindset that considers national security concerns to almost always be mere excuses for government spying. This is the sort of approach that led to the famous CIA/FBI firewall (I discuss the firewall’s development here)). The left, and many liberals, seem to feel that the raising of security issues in these situations is almost always bogus–a sort of screen, used by a proto-totalitarian government to cover its own misuse of power, with the goal of getting away with domestic spying on its enemies, and the further consolidation of its own power.

If this is the conception, then national security concerns must be downplayed in almost all cases, and the role of fear as motivation for those concerns exaggerated instead.

One need not scroll far into my comments section—or glance at any major leftwing site—to see this particular meme in action:  warmongering conservatives are really but bedwetting cowards hoping to God that Pappy Bush will protect them from the evil robed brown men who are gonna blow them up.

Whereas liberals?  They aren’t scared at all—the whole “Islamist” threat has been overblown and used by the Bushies as a scare tactic to terrify soccer moms and win votes (until, that is, the Bushies support a deal that would allow the UAE to take over some administrative port management:  at that point, the Islamist threat becomes “grave” and “severe.”)

The point of all this being that the lesson we should draw from the last few days of “coversation” with my “progressive” critics is that their denial of responsibility for their own actions—which they consider to be righteous—is simply an integral narrative that they’ve added to bolster their master narrative for the war:  it has been a colossal failure that has made the world less safe—with the adminstration’s arrogance, hubris, and greed solely to blame for this condition, save for the assist given the Buscho cabal by the warmongering enablers who supported (and continue to support) the campaign.

(h/t Terry Hastings)

100 Replies to “(Un)Framing the Sign”

  1. quiggs says:

    There is also a simpler dynamic at work: the belief that the propagation of “correct” (i.e., leftist) ideas ipso facto can never be harmful.  But no honest, sane person could deny that such propagation does have real-world effects— viz. your earlier post (sorry, I don’t know how to link) about the London subway bomber who stated that he was motivated by the false story of Koran-flushing.

  2. mr_flood says:

    Just a really beautiful article, articulate and so well structured as to approach a form of art.  Thanks.

  3. Marty H says:

    Jeff-

    Brilliant! You can boil down much of the other side’s argument to, “I can say anything I want because no one’s listening to me. BUT DON’T QUESTION MY PATRIOTISM!”

    Marty H

  4. Jim in Chicago says:

    Mmmm. PIES!

    BECAUSE OF THE BAREFOOT WOMEN!

  5. Juku says:

    Annoy a leftist by reminding them how the Patriot Act passed 89-10 in the Senate, with 33 out of 44 Democrats voting for it. Forward this article to them. 

    They had 4 years to think about it too.

  6. marcus says:

    Whereas liberals?  They aren’t scared at all—the whole “Islamist” threat has been overblown and used by the Bushies as a scare tactic

    That is until they are given the opportunity to reproduce some offensive cartoons, an action that can have real-world consequences for them.  Suddenly, they are all about “responsible free speech” and “sensitivity to others’ belief systems” while they soil their britches at the mere thought of a jihadist declaring a fatwa against them for insulting Mohammed.

    We know who the real bed-wetters are.

  7. natesnake says:

    I’m convinced that if the Republicans ran on the platform “Water Is Wet,” the Democrats would be outraged and label the platform as a complete lie.

    Where’s the common sense?  They don’t deserve the title of Democratic Party.  Opposition Party is a more apt name.

    T/W “We really don’t have any ideas of our own, but we’re damn sure against what ever the Rethuglicans are for.”

  8. 6Gun says:

    Extraordinary, Jeff.  It’s time someone had the brass to say this. 

    We’d better all get our thanks and congratulations in now, because here come the “progressives”.  This mother’s going to go over 500 comments.  Oil the servers, Jeff!

    tw: Basis in fact.

  9. Paul Zrimsek says:

    OK, OK, maybe the nonstop chorus of naysaying is having a tiny little effect, somewhere. But what can it amount to next to Smirky’s subliminal hints about Saddam and 9/11? To say nothing of Jeff Gannon’s GAY PORN COCK OF LIES!

  10. Defense Guy says:

    Great post Jeff.  Given the recent infestation of the ‘disagreeable’, I would expect to begin hearing the retorts as soon as one of the hive minds figures out what it means.

  11. Squid says:

    jef ur a stuped fasict who liks goerge bush 2 much.

    There.  Now that’s out of the way.

  12. Bacon Ninja says:

    Given the recent infestation of the ‘disagreeable’, I would expect to begin hearing the retorts as soon as one of the hive minds figures out what it means.

    For some reason I have visions of actus and his ilk sitting at a desk poring through four dictionaries trying to find the definition of “heteroglossia” before finally throwing up their hands and saying, “Screw it, let’s just say that Jeff is a suckup for Bush. He’ll never have a response for that!”

  13. Toast points?

    Fuck toast points!

    Ritz Crackers for me, baby.

    PS: they’re not stupid, they aren’t crazy, they are trying to to win an election by “controlling the message”.  And they will win. Because they do control the message, Glenn Reynold’s army notwithstanding.

    I’m actually at peace with this, I realize that I will be paying more taxes, but I don’t think the world will end.  Just look, the Patriot Act passed, again. Now.

    The anti-Bushies don’t even believe their own crap any more.  It’s all a show.

  14. Vercingetorix says:

    To say nothing of Jeff Gannon’s GAY PORN COCK OF LIES!

    LOL, you can say that again, sailor. Oh, and again, and again, and again. Do you like it when daddy…or sorry, was channeling actus for a moment.

  15. Defense Guy says:

    Personally, I’m fond of the general retort:

    ‘Bu$h is teh suxor!’

    It really captures the essence of the loyal oppositions thinking, while giving a nod to the realities of living in the internet age.

  16. The_Real_JeffS says:

    Excellent post, Jeff!  Especially given the plethoria of leftie talking points being splattered across the comments here lately, all of them apparently approved by Howard Dean or Kos.

    Although I say that at risk of being accused of lockstepping with the rest of the BushCo sheeple flocking around this blog.  Not that I worry about such perceptions; I just wish we could march to some jazz, or maybe Mozart, huh?

  17. Jay says:

    Does anyone have a count on how many “scandals” there have been?  Each one an “impeachable offense”, each one with the outrage turned up to 11?  I’ve lost count. 

    Politics is interesting, and sometimes important, but when every story is a gotcha moment for the left, it becomes exhausting.

    So what happens in Jan of 2009 when Bush leaves office?  What does the left do?  If his successor is Republican, do they just take up where they left off?  If his successor is a Democrat, do they have to unlearn the previous 8 years, and learn to play defense?

    What next?

  18. Vercingetorix says:

    Areas where “dissent” has had consequences…

    Newsweek’s story about Toilet-Koran Luv—Pakistanis and Afghans whipped up into choleric mobs and people murdered in the streets. Bad.

    Stories about American troops killing journalists—Spanish judge finds grounds to charge American soldiers for war crimes

    Dutch court attempts to charge Rumsfeld with war crimes.

    First engagement of Fallujah had to be postponed due to media hysteria.

    “Patriotic dissent” over NSA ‘wiretapping’ and we lose a program that has helped stop terrorist attacks.

    “Patriotic dissent” over CIA practices in Europe and Asia and our allies become targets for terrorist attacks.

    And let’s not forget the biggest of them all…the Mohamed cartoons, a true patriotic dissent over the state of free speech in Denmark, and worldwide riots start up. I think I just heard a hundred liberal compasses break, as they tried to square the circle here.

    Surely, words have meaning and effects as those episodes demonstrate?

  19. Leonidas says:

    Surely, words have meaning and effects as those episodes demonstrate?

    This is precisely why we should be considering an anti-sedition law, as a columnist at Town Hall recently suggested.  The loony left is doing its damnedest to undermine the country.  When we are at war…That. Simply. Is. Not. Acceptable.

  20. Leonidas, just when I thought you couldn’t outdo the torture comment…you go and do this.  Be proud, my boy.

  21. mojo says:

    (Buscho = liars who keep secrets and who are systematically taking away our civil liberties in a power hungry attempt to take over the world, install a Christian theocracy here at home, and herd the sheeple into pens, so that a very few rich Republican neocons can eat caviar off of toast points while laughing at the misery of the proles)

    So, like, do finally get to wear the Jodphurs and Jackboots? ‘Cause they weren’t cheap, y’know.

    SB: done

    ok

  22. Brian says:

    The behavior of the Left seems less to be a considered strategy than a perfect storm of attitudes and fears: the desire to re-live the Watergate/Vietnam era with “rebellion to authority”, the lingering resentment of Bush and the GOP since the election of 2000, and the politics of powerlessness.

    As stated in Jeff’s post, the Vietnam era still holds sway over the attitudes of the Left.  A liberal radio host, when opining on the Downing Street memo last year, said “If some of you listeners out there aren’t old enough to recall the Pentagon Papers, well…..this is what it was like”.  The implication is that this would be HUGE, and would ultimately lead to the undoing of Bushco.  I see this same want for evidence to destroy the administration in most news reports/articles, and in my conversations with Democratic friends. 

    I will always understand the anger that Dem’s carry relating to the 2000 election.  After all, I think Roe v. Wade “stole” the issue of abortion for the electorate and handed it to a friendly judiciary to be settled, leaving the anti-abortion side at the side of the road…..and angry about it.  But in 2004, Bush won legitimately (although the Left tries to claim that even that election was stolen), yet the opposition party treats the Bush administration as though it’s illegitimate, and therefore all of its policies and decisions are crimes against the citizenry as an elite bunch of Big Oil Texas cronies hijacks the country and the Constitution.

    Lastly, the issues that arise weekly from the MSM/Congress/Blogosphere represent a clear desperation (read: FEAR) from a group that has no recourse but to throw grenades of horseshit hoping to soil the Executive branch, and by extension the GOP, to such a point that the public will be disgusted and demand a change in the air quality.  That’s what the Dem’s seem to be just short of saying: “Hey, we smell better”.  As a political strategy, it’s sad to witness, but I recognize it for what it is: the politics of a very desperate party and media.

    Consider the anger out there at Bushco and answer this question: If Bush were to be assassinated this weekend in Pakistan by some deranged local, would you be at all surprised if the blogs like D-Kos, MyDD, Greenwald responded with cheers?

  23. eakawie says:

    I’m beginning to consider supporting Democratic victories in 2006 and ‘08. Most likely, under a (D) Congress and President the investigations, interrogations, surveillance, and Special Ops missions that have done the most to prevent terrorism will continue through bureaucratic inertia, but without the press and political scrutiny they are currently under.

  24. Vercingetorix says:

    So, like, do finally get to wear the Jodphurs and Jackboots? ‘Cause they weren’t cheap, y’know.

    mojo, you have to accessorize, you know…geez, louize, just, just sssthop, stop already, let me do it.

    When you goose-step, could you puleeeeze just put your hand out like thiz, and, yeah, put some spirit fingers on it. Yeah, like that [waving fingers above the keyboard].

    There we go. Now, go slip into your patent leather SS suit, you naughty, naughty little brownshirt.

  25. natesnake says:

    The behavior of the Left seems less to be a considered strategy than a perfect storm of attitudes and fears: the desire to re-live the Watergate/Vietnam era with “rebellion to authority”,

    I went to an NRA banquet last week.  One couple sitting at my table was my sister-in-law’s parents.  The mother still cling’s to her hippy roots and vehemently hates GWB.  The couple also enjoy’s gun ownership and target shooting.

    A friend sitting directly beside me leans over and wispers, “Is she wearing a Donkey pin?” Sure enough, she had this huge red, white, and blue Democratic pin on her collar.

    I believe that your statement captures the moment.  What kind of idiot shows up to one of the most conservative venues in the state (for a cause that she was willing to pay $100 per plate) while flaunting a pin for a group that opposes everything about that event?  Her taste for rebellion trumps all common sense.

  26. EXDemocrat says:

    And that ladies and gentlemen, is why there is an EX is front of my name.

    Choosing between a strait jacket and a flak jacket wasn’t that difficult.

  27. Ian Wood says:

    “Crazy talk,” huh? This, from the folks who invented the hyphenated-American?

    I don’t think so.

  28. Phil Smith says:

    This Leonidas cat HAS to be a DougJ copycat.

    At any rate, his gal pal Lysistrata should perhaps read the play; the whole point is that the women would withhold sex until the war was over.  So either her hawklike proclamations don’t fit her nom de web, or, more likely, they’re a vapid attempt at satire.  Either way, they both really suck ass.

  29. Nishizono Shinji says:

    The greek word for the “perfect storm” hyperbolic accusation flung by the left is katalepsis, to be seized.  This is a common tactic used by unethical lawyers in jury trials.  The false meme is flung into the discussion, the lawyer understands perfectly that he will be overruled, but the meme itself is implanted in the jurors’ consciousness by then.

    Because of the way we learn, unlearning is much more difficult than learning, and unusual (read, horrific, gory, strange, bizarre, or sexual) memes are accepted and retained more readily.

  30. adhocornot says:

    As this thread appears to be cooler than the one I just read where the flames are still flaring, I would like to respectfully ask to join your dialog with a liberal POV.

    My goals are only to hear, be heard and if still alive, gain understanding.

    If you all are tired of this, I will leave peacfully and continue to chase the errant thread that led to my presence here.

  31. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Of course you are welcome.  Can’t guarantee you’ll get a response from me personally—it’s reaching baby feeding / walking time—but I’m sure that if you are respectful, you’ll be treated in kind by the commenters here.

  32. Merovign says:

    Where did all the trolls go?

  33. beetroot says:

    Before I get snarky, lemme throw a couple ideas at the wall:

    – While Jeff is correct to note that speech has impact and consequence, the argument stands unrefuted that despite discontent and dissent with Bush, he has had all the political power and the tools necessary to promote and execute whatever war strategy he chose. Ergo, he and his people are entirely responsible for the progress and failures of the war.

    – The cited specific instances in which dissent carried costs—e.g. the koran-in-the-toilet deaths, the cartoon deaths, some Spanish court—are flies on the ass of the war effort. None of them come even remotely close to compromising the President’s capacity to develop and execute war strategy.

    – Henninger’s argument ignores the possibility that critiques against Bush stem from legitimate concerns with the law.

    He wrote: “every issue that emerges becomes an illegitimate extension of the original “lie”—the NSA wiretaps, the Guantanamo detentions, Abu Ghraib, terrorist interrogation techniques, the Plame affair. This is a dangerous game.”

    In fact, all of those things represent freestanding outrages that need no “original lie” to make them bad. Illegal spying and torture are profoundly offensive to me and many others.

    – Jeff’s logic assumes that the President’s negative image—that of an incompetent, lying, crony-ridden, hypocritical, hopelessly partisan and possibly corrupt cowboy saddled with messianic self-regard—is the result of leftist meme-shaping.

    It disregards the possibility that objective reality has provided evidence of incompetence, misinformation, unbending partisanship, cronyism, corruption, hypocrisy, etc.

    In other words, quit blamin’ the messengers, guys, it’s not lefties that make Bush look bad, it’s Bush.

    Let the insults begin!

    Love, your loyal leftard

  34. Leonidas says:

    Phil Smith: you appear to be an Actus copycat, which is far worse.

  35. Merovign says:

    beetroot:

    1) Please do ignore the fact of the propaganda war that is deliberately being fought in the middle east on both sides and the fact that only our side keeps sabotaging our own propaganda (re: the paid Iraqi reporters and everything else we’re talking about).

    2) Please go on pretending that the success of the Iraqi Endeavor isn’t impacted by the attitudes and opinions of the Iraqi people, which are of course not impacted by the propaganda war which our (and their) enemy is fighting whole-hog and our side is split on.

    3) Please do pretend that your echo-chamber opinion, based solidly on half-truths and interpretations (and “possiblys”) is objective and not “hopelessly partisan.”

    4) If you find yourself in a position to criticize the “Bushco Propaganda machine,” carefully consider that the hypocrisy may actually cause you to burst into flames.

    You know, this whole “dissent isn’t powerful” meme has long-range consequences you may want to consider before following this line of reasoning.

  36. Beetroot Extracts:

    … Bush, he has had all the political power and the tools necessary to promote and execute whatever war strategy he chose. Ergo, he and his people are entirely responsible for the progress and failures of the war…. None of [the cited examples] come even remotely close to compromising the President’s capacity to develop and execute war strategy.

    I find your assertion that the President has “all the political power” he needs to be quite puzzling.  I’m going to guess that you probably have a real job and don’t spend your time hip-deep in politics, because no political operator since forever has ever been able to operate unhobbled.  For starters, there is the question of establishing the current context of the debate, and the ability to set the agenda goes a long way to preconfigure the nature of the subsequent discussion, and the significance of such influence can’t be overstated.  The other thing I find interesting is that you see no possible relation to General Giap’s commentary about the anti-war movement during the Vietnam-era to anything going on whatsoever today.

    Henninger’s argument ignores the possibility that critiques against Bush stem from legitimate concerns with the law.

    He wrote: “every issue that emerges becomes an illegitimate extension of the original “lie”—the NSA wiretaps, the Guantanamo detentions, Abu Ghraib, terrorist interrogation techniques, the Plame affair. This is a dangerous game.”

    In fact, all of those things represent freestanding outrages that need no “original lie” to make them bad. Illegal spying and torture are profoundly offensive to me and many others

    .

    Here you elide the very point under discussion, but do it so confidently and clearly that I really grin when I read that.  You take for granted the assertion that there is “illegal spying” or “torture” at Guantanamo – these conclusions are far from certain and open to much interpretation. 

    That, right there, is precisely the reason that controlling and shaping the narrative is significant and in fact does have consequences. 

    <objective reality has provided evidence of incompetence, misinformation, unbending partisanship, cronyism, corruption, hypocrisy, etc.</blockquote>

    And your comment again begs the question itself.  What if, for sake of argument, this guy isn’t the most evil etc. creature on the planet, and in fact, is a fairly competent and sound person.  Just for sake of argument, mind you.  And there is a loud crowd of people that cry foul at every conicevable opportunity.  Wouldn’t that constant negativism eventually degrade the President and the Office of the Presidency, despite the merits of the President’s actions?

    In other words, quit blamin’ the messengers, guys, it’s not lefties that make Bush look bad, it’s Bush.

    No, you get it wrong here as well – it’s the fact that the leftists have become so invested in the notion that Bush is bad that at this point he could cure cancer, bring about world peace, and eliminate poverty over the course of the next hour and within a matter of minutes people would be screaming that it’s part of some sort of plot cooked up with Haliburton, and that he’s an incompetent turd for not doing it sooner, and besides which the ecological balance has been destroyed because of the population shift, and that he’s evil because he didn’t cure illiteracy as well.

    With some folks, you just can’t win.  And when that becomes a dominant feature of the debate then that is generally counterproductive, and therefore, no, the President doesn’t have the influence that you describe to him in your first paragraphs.

    Let the insults begin!

    Love, your loyal leftard

  37. Merovign,

    I do wonder how this “dissent has no real consequences” idea squares with the whole protest movement.  For that matter, I am also curious to see how it’s made compatible with the concept of hate speech.

    BRD

  38. Phil Smith says:

    Not at all, Leo.  I doubt quite seriously that I share very many of actus’ views on anything.  You, however, are either obscenely extreme in your views, or a fake.  I just don’t care for fakers.

    Now go join the three hundred.

  39. noah says:

    beetroot: I suppose that what you say “could” be true but Sir William of Occam would be suspicious in light of the lack of truth of so many of the left’s obsessions and accusations. No Koran flushing, no admin ordering of torture at abu Graib, no evil intent demonstrated in NSA surveillance, no lying about Iraqi seeking yellow cake in Africa, no lying about aluminum tubes (the majority of agencies), no violations of civil liberties due to Patriot Act, etc. In fact about the only plausible accusations that the left has made is that the Bushies were mistaken about Iraq…they weren’t perfect prognosticators!! You would think the left would have a little more humility considering their track record!!

  40. Paul Zrimsek says:

    Does this mean the subtle racist code words we use to appeal to Southerners aren’t going to work any more? That would really suck.

  41. Brian says:

    What kind of idiot shows up to one of the most conservative venues in the state (for a cause that she was willing to pay $100 per plate) while flaunting a pin for a group that opposes everything about that event?

    Exactly.  It’s indicative of a mentality that says “I hold my opinion in very high esteem, and therefore so shall you, regardless of whether or not you wish to hear it”.  It’s tactless behavior that’s rude, invasive, pushy, condescending, patronizing, and all-too-common with the Donkeys.

  42. Mark says:

    I would expect to begin hearing the retorts as soon as one of the hive minds figures out what it means.

    I dunno Defense Guy, waiting to figure out what Jeff means hasn’t slowed them down so far!

  43. 6Gun says:

    As I recall, you floated those turds in that other thread, beetroot.  As I recall, you had no juice there, either.

    If you’re going to evacuate yourself publicly, at least do your homework.  Er, or let somebody else do it for you but then shut up.

    Jeff, any rules just how much profanity you can use in any one reply to a pathologically dishonest liberal around here?  Just curious…

  44. beetroot says:

    “You take for granted the assertion that there is “illegal spying” or “torture” at Guantanamo – these conclusions are far from certain and open to much interpretation.”

    Yes, that’s right, I think that the overwhelming body of evidence suggests that this administration has spied illegally on Americans (baffling to me, since he could easily get the warrants he needed); and I think the overwhelming body of evidence suggests that yes, this administration has looked for means by which to avial itself of torture as a tool of interrogation and inquiry (see this week’s New Yorker story about Mota for the latest).

    As a corrolary to those beliefs, I think that most people who disregard them fall into the “head in the sand” category.

    “No Koran flushing, no admin ordering of torture at abu Graib, no evil intent demonstrated in NSA surveillance, no lying about Iraqi seeking yellow cake in Africa, no lying about aluminum tubes (the majority of agencies), no violations of civil liberties due to Patriot Act, etc.”

    Again, I think the preponderance of evidence suggests that all of those things are, to greater or lesser degrees, true (e.g. the Koran wasn’t in the toilet, but it was next to the toilet). Sue me.

    “no political operator since forever has ever been able to operate unhobbled.”

    This President had as close to a total mandate, and total control, as any in recent memory. Again, I challenge anyone to come up with an instance in which political opposition prevented the administraion from pursuing the course of action it deemed necessary. Opposition didn’t stop the war from starting; didn’t stop or slow troop deployments; didn’t slow a single dollar; etc.

    “.. the leftists have become so invested in the notion that Bush is bad that at this point he could cure cancer, bring about world peace, and eliminate poverty over the course of the next hour and within a matter of minutes people would be screaming…”

    That’s an unproveable hypothesis, since Bush hasn’t cured cancer or brought about world peace. Leftists scream when he fucks up, which his administration does with increasing frequency.

    And yeah, I’m avoiding the question of whether this admin fucked up. I’m quite convinced that it did and does and will continue to do so, because it is run by a tiny group of individuals whose decisions and priorities are profoundly misguided.

    And I stand by my basic point: it isn’t leftist meme-shaping that’s resulted in the President’s sinking numbers, it’s the lameness of his policies. 

    Finally, one other point: that Giap quote is meaningless. We lost Vietnam for tactical reasons, not because Jane Fonda empowered the Viet Cong with some superhuman strength. They were kicking our ass before she went there and they kicked our ass till we left.

    (Why? Crappy decisions made by the civilian leadership in the White House and Pentagon. Sound familiar ….?)

    Yers in leftardedness ….

  45. adhocornot says:

    Thank you, Jeff for your warm welcome.

    An issue I would like to discuss is the type of war that we are fighting and how that ties in with the much contested and protested left’s possible contribution to the insurgency through anti-war rhetoric.

    Col.Thomas X. Hammes, a senior military fellow in the Institute for National Strategic Studies at the National Defense University and some of his colleagues have put forth the concept of “Fourth Generation Warfare”.

    The pdf is 8 pages, but here are some key concepts:

    The first generation of modern (post-Westphalian) war was dominated by massed manpower and culminated in the Napoleonic Wars. <ul>Firepower characterized the second generation, which culminated in World War I. <ul>The third generation was dominated by maneuver as developed by the Germans in World War II.

    <ul>The fourth generation has evolved in ways that take advantage of the political, social, economic, and technical changes since World War II. It makes use of the advantages those changes offer an unconventional enemy.

    The fundamental precept is that superior political will, when properly employed, can defeat greater economic and military power. Because it is organized to ensure political rather than military success, this type of warfare is difficult to defeat.

    Strategically, fourth-generation warfare remains focused on changing the minds of decisionmakers. Politically, it involves transnational, national, and subnational organizations and networks. Operationally, it uses different messages for different audiences, all of which focus on breaking an opponent’s political will. Tactically, it utilizes materials present in the society under attack—tto include industrial chemicals, liquefied natural gas, or fertilizers.

    Although these modern insurgencies are the only type of war that the United States has lost (Vietnam, Lebanon, and Somalia), they can be overcome—witness Malaya (1950s), Oman (1970s), and El Salvador (1980s). Winning, however, requires coherent, patient action that encompasses the full range of political, economic, social, and military activities. The United States cannot force its opponents to fight the short, hightechnology wars it easily dominates. Instead, the Nation must learn to fight fourth-generation wars anew.

    For background and a compilation of papers and articles on the subject, see the Defense and the National Interest Web site at http://www.d-n-i.net/second_level/fourth_generation_warfare.htm.

    4GW’s strategy concentrates on the enemies policymakers and anyone that can influence the policymaker through the use of “targeted messages”, not by wiping out their army by conventional means. The goal is to change the policymaker’s position on matters of national interest.

    The struggles in Iraq and Afghanistan show these characteristics. In each, the insurgents are sending one message to their supporters, another to the undecided population, and a third to the coalition decisionmakers. supporters are told that they are defending the faith and their country against outside invaders. The message to uncommitted or pro-coalition countrymen is to stay out of the fight between the insurgents and the invaders, who will eventually leave. Finally, the coalition, particularly the Americans, is advised to withdraw or be engaged in an endless, costly fight.

    There is so much more, but I think this is enough to make the point which is the hotly contested debate needs yet another (Re)Frame.

    The propaganda is flowing in the opposite direction than is designated in the debate.

    Of course, that will depend upon agreement that the Iraq war is 4th Generation Warfare. But that seems worthier of debate, anyway.

    What do you all think?

  46. corvan says:

    I’m sorry beet, but you’re being completely dishonest.  Then your using said dishonesty to justify your amoral behviour. That’s a pathology not a philosophy. 

    In that regard, I suspect that somewhere down the road, probably about August or so Karl Rove will begin to visit this topic, though not as well as Jeff has, and he will be counting upon reactions such as yours from the left.  He’ll get them too, because you can’t help yourselves.

    I’m not saying this to be cruel at all.  It’s just true.  People who reason like you have more to od with the Republican majorities in this country than President Bush will ever have.  And you are the ones who will ensure that the Republican majority remains in place.  In part because you have made the Democratic party into an asylum, and in part becuase without realizing it, through your complete lack of honesty and scruple you make every Republican, no matter how mediocre look like a great statesman.

    Since I ahppen to support the war on terror, and believe that a free democratic Iraq is a noble and reachable goal I can only say “Rock on.”

    Still, I’m concerned.  The country really does need a two party sytem and a free press.  You and yours, again without realizing it, are in the process of wrecking them both.  Thank goodness for the internet, eh?

  47. Merovign says:

    beetroot:

    This President had as close to a total mandate, and total control, as any in recent memory.

    P-fucking-shaw. I got just three letters for you, “CIA.” The really amusing part is that the ancient devil of the left has now become one of its allies. Funny old world.

    Specifically the Plame propaganda leak, the leak-shutdown of the NSA program, and leak-shutdown of the internal Iraqi propaganda program (only peripherally related to the CIA IIRC). I’m sure there’s more I’m not thinking of at the moment, and there’s plenty more on the political front.

    You’re at least half-right about one thing, the administration’s weakness in caving to pressure over these leaks and not prosecuting those responsible has made damage control near-impossible at this point.

    adhocornot:

    Precisely timed and relevant. It’s all asymmetrical warfare now.

    corvan:

    We can only hope that whoever raises the mantle of the Democrat Party from the ashes will be “principled opposition” rather than today’s “anything goes.”

  48. Forbes says:

    beetroot says:

    “I think the preponderance of evidence suggests that all of those things are, to greater or lesser degrees, true…”

    Herewith the truth: “No Koran flushing, no admin ordering of torture at abu Graib, no evil intent demonstrated in NSA surveillance, no lying about Iraqi seeking yellow cake in Africa, no lying about aluminum tubes (the majority of agencies), no violations of civil liberties due to Patriot Act, etc.”

    I’m sorry, what were you arguing, beetroot?

    (Confusion abounds, up is down, while black is white. ROTFLMAO.)

  49. Beetroot,

    We’ll go from bottom to top on this one, if I may…

    Finally, one other point: that Giap quote is meaningless. We lost Vietnam for tactical reasons, not because Jane Fonda empowered the Viet Cong with some superhuman strength. They were kicking our ass before she went there and they kicked our ass till we left.

    Um… wow… How to say this… I’ll try the short version: no.

    Ok, for example, the US Christmas Bombing campaign – very effective, generates huge leverage and huge traction.  Why is it that that the bombing campaign wasn’t executed earlier in the war?

    Because the political will wasn’t there.

    Why wasn’t the political will there?  Because the anti-war movement had become quite vocal and visible, ala Ms. Fonda.

    This one episode is illustrative of a broader question of the role of domestic politics in warfare.

    Now if we extend this all the way through from Johsnon’s decision to send 45,000 troops instead of 200,000, or the Tet Offensive, or the 1975 decision to pull American airpower from the Vietnamese even in the face of egregious and blatant violations of the Paris talks, and you can begin to fill out the rest of the arc.

    ==============================

    “.. the leftists have become so invested in the notion that Bush is bad that at this point he could cure cancer, bring about world peace, and eliminate poverty over the course of the next hour and within a matter of minutes people would be screaming…”

    That’s an unproveable hypothesis, since Bush hasn’t cured cancer or brought about world peace. Leftists scream when he fucks up, which his administration does with increasing frequency.

    Of course it’s an unprovable hypothesis, silly.  It’s a counterfactual thought experiment.  Let me be more plain.  Leftist scream regardless of what he does – that’s the point.  There is nothing that Bush has done in the last few years that hasn’t resulted in screaming whether or not the situation merited screaming at all or if, in fact, there was anything to scream about.

    The more significant gripe isn’t that folks holler when something bad happens its that they holler, presume it to be bad and continue to operate (functionally in bad faith) on that assumption.  At this point, the assertion of failure is enough for people like yourself to jump all over it.  This is not unlike the gripe I get from folks on the left about the fact that if Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter say anything at all about liberals it’s invariably nasty, regardless of whether or not it is merited.  Pot, Kettle, have you two been introduced?

    This President had as close to a total mandate, and total control, as any in recent memory.

    Um… really? Rather than digging up the links, I’ll ask first if you recall all of the noise about Bush not having a mandate after the 2004 election.  Do happen to recall the vein of rhetoric that delegitmized anything done after 2000 because the President was “selected not elected”?

    But I think you’re missing the essential point about setting the agenda and so on.  Sometimes it’s more complex, nuanced if you will, than whether a bill gets passed or signed, rather it’s the fact that the bill didn’t die in committee, or was even drafted in the first place where all of this stuff comes in.  It’s the generation of the buzz and the agenda setting stage where all of the noise comes in.  I’d like to talk to you more about this point, but your assertion of the totality of power is so wrong-headed as to defy response.  Umm… Ok look at the run from FDR through LBJ in light of Congressional and Oval Office Control.

    “No Koran flushing, no admin ordering of torture at abu Graib, no evil intent demonstrated in NSA surveillance, no lying about Iraqi seeking yellow cake in Africa, no lying about aluminum tubes (the majority of agencies), no violations of civil liberties due to Patriot Act, etc.”

    Again, I think the preponderance of evidence suggests that all of those things are, to greater or lesser degrees, true (e.g. the Koran wasn’t in the toilet, but it was next to the toilet). Sue me.

    I think the preponderance of evidence in your posts would tend to suggest that my counterfactual hypothesis, were it ever to be verifiable, would in fact be true.  Right here, you are saying, in effect, that even the things that aren’t actually, you know, true, are still true.  But rather than veering off into a whole lot of metaphysical stuff, how about you convince me, with a preponderance of evidence, that Bush lied about Iraq seeking Uranium in Africa.

    So, in the end analysis, I think you are doing that same thing that you accuse your opponents of, and something that is endemic to discussions of politics and theology since the dawn of time.  You picked up enough data points to conjure up a theory.  Since then, you’ve picked data points to reinforce that theory.  At this point, your proclamations need have nothing to do with actual reality since you’ve already made up your mind and determined your conclusions on anything else that will happen in the forseeable future.

    BRD

  50. Merovign,

    Other things to add to that would be the outing of the CIA-transport airline, the removal of such dastardly things like lighting conditions and room temperature and lap dances from the interrogation vocabulary, the exposure of detainment facilities in Eastern Europe, the reduction or elimination of many arenas of cooperation with other nations in the war on terror, the ability to use the 4th ID in the north through Turkey, creating the groundwork that made an up vote on UN 1441 impossible…

    I’m sure that folks can think of a few more as well.

  51. EXDemocrat says:

    Why don’t we ask the boots on the ground in Iraq, what affect the anti-war propaganda has had? I’m positive that they would have plenty to say.

    Afterall, they are the one’s dying because of it.

  52. Don't blame me, I voted for Trotsky... says:

    If one were to believe the commenters visting here from progressive sites over the last several days, my various suggestions that the propagation of ideas, memes, and particular narratives can have actual, empirical, real-world consequences…well, that’s just crazy talk!

    Huh.

    Then why do they do it?

  53. wishbone says:

    Beetroot,

    If you are what passes for knowledge and insight on the left, I can sleep safe on Election Eves until 2020 at least.

    Where to start…

    –It is telling that you accept as true ALL the charges against the administration in the conduct of the war from Koran flushing to the illegality of the NSA program (which is still classified and, as I have said repeatedly, is IMPOSSIBLE to judge because it is classfied.).

    –Believing that any administration operates in a political vacuum is just plain stupid.  I can’t give a better description of your point.  Stupid–that’s it.

    –Just as with your previous post, you offer NO policy alternatives. 

    –But, since you believe that the North Vietnamese had tacticially defeated the US forces I shudder to think what alternatives you would suggest.  Do us a favor, read any history of the Tet offensive and come back and tell us if the kind of meme management Jeff dissects here had any effect then.  Better yet, visit Hue as I have done and discover an even deeper respect for the US Marines who retook the old city in that fight.  If that was a tactical defeat, then I’m a Ted Kennedy fan.

  54. lee says:

    A professional analysis of BDS http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/11/lets-discuss-bush-derangement-syndrome.html

    TW:SEEMS about right to me

  55. B Moe says:

    Again, I think the preponderance of evidence suggests that all of those things are, to greater or lesser degrees, true (e.g. the Koran wasn’t in the toilet, but it was next to the toilet). Sue me.

    How many of the new trolls have confessed to lacking the ability to distinguish truth from fiction? rootbeeter here makes at least three just in the last couple of days.

  56. Nishizono Shinji says:

    adhocornot, certainly it is 4G.

    and certainly, it is difficult for us to reproduce the adversary strategy of playing to different audiences.  How can we, when whatever techniques we employ are broadcast to all audiences via the MSM?

    sending one message to their supporters, another to the undecided population, and a third to the coalition decisionmakers

    hmmm.

    could we send one message to the fundamentalists [we are going to slaughter you and burn your bodies without discrimination or mercy], one message to our potential allies (moderate muslims) [you are far more like us than you are like the fundamentalists], one message to the dissidents of the left, and one message to GW’s supporters?

    Actually, i think the message to the left and the right could be the same.

    the truth.

  57. baffling to me, since he could easily get the warrants he needed

    When baffled, it’s best to reexamine what you think you know.  Probably one of those things is wrong.

  58. Young Goodman Brown says:

    Control of the executive branch?  Check.

    Control of the Senate?  Check.

    Control of the House?  Check.

    Control of the judiciary?  Check.

    Control of the DREADED MEMES?  Noooooooo!

    Our dreaded memes led W to abandon Afghanistan for Iraq, overstate intelligence in the process, not prepare for the rebuilding of Iraq in any sort of coherent way, and let Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri.

    You know what did it?  That damned “clap harder” meme… that’s our secret PARALYZING meme.

    Some of us were smart enough to know that we shouldn’t trust this Administration with anything more complex than refilling vending machines.

    You trusted them.  Sorry… not my fault.

  59. corvan says:

    YGB,

    That’s not even close.  I’m not going to go through the Joe Wilson nonsense or the various conclusions every single intelligence agency in the world made regarding Iraq or the factr that britian still stands by thier finding on Niger or the new documents that show Saddam was training terrorists or the bi-partisan investigation that concluded the intelligence was not cooked, because there is no point.  Somewhere along the line you decided that GW Bush was the center of all evil in the universe and by comparison that Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussein, Iran, etc. etc.  aren’t all that bad.  So long as you hold to that notion you will continue to be…shall we say over wrought and incapable of reason.  Rant to your heart’s content.  But don’t pretend that you’re even a smidgeon believable.

  60. Young Goodman Brown says:

    Ummmmmm… right.  Since you can’t address what I actually say, go ahead and make shit up. 

    I love Saddam, and I wish he would make sweet love to me all night long.

    There… that’ll make it easier for you to calm your little pea-brain, sugar.

  61. B Moe says:

    Our dreaded memes led W to abandon Afghanistan for Iraq

    Don’t know what to make of this one, but the soldiers over there would probably be surprised by the news.

    overstate intelligence in the process

    Whatever.

    not prepare for the rebuilding of Iraq in any sort of coherent way

    Seems to be progressing on schedule and in a fairly coherent manner to me, unless by coherent you mean fantastically quick and easy.

    and let Osama Bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahri

    Actually I think they sub-let them, the housing market is kind of slow right now.

  62. corvan says:

    YGB, what you’ve said has been addressed over and over.  Saddam was training terrorists.  His own documents show that.  Every intelligence agency in the world did believe that he had amassed weapons of mass destruction.  He had used WMD on Kurds.  Bill Clinton maintained that there were WMDS in Iraq.  Britian does stand by its findings on the Niger yellow cake.  Joe Wilson wasn’t telling the truth.  A bi-paritsan commission did find that the intelligence wasn’t cooked.

    Those are just the facts.  What you say isn’t true.  You are long on bitterness, and short on facts.  Your hatred has blinded you.  It is a sad fact, but it is a fact.

    As far as your claims about Afghanistan go…the left spent alot of time calling that a quagmire first, before they decided to mke it “the good war”

    Remember Joe Biden called for a cessation of hostilities?  Google it…you’ll find it.

    Not only that Afghanistan’s topography would make placing a hundred and thirty thousand troops there all but impossible.  There was never a plan to put a hundred and thirty thousand troops in Afghanistan.  I’m not aware that the government has claimed that troops have been withdrawn from Afghanistan to receive long term posting in Iraq are you?

    And before you get started… the military is not broken, the volunteer rates have not tanked.  The soldiers are not in revolt.

    Once more you call names, froth at the mouth and rant, but you don’t back up anything you say with any facts.

    Which is why Republican are in control of all three barnches of government, and likedly to remain that way no matter how badly they screw up.  Right now you folks on the left are a walking horror show, full of bile, spit, hatred, recriminations and nothing else.  I wish that wasn’t so as well, but it just is.

    If you were even self aware enough to read your own comments critically you would see that.

    As far as my comment regarding your hatred of GW Bush…have you said anythying so far to show it isn’t true?  Do you hoestly believe that Al Qaeda is a bigger threat to America than GW Bush?  Do you honestly believe that Iran is a bigger threat to America than GW Bush?  Do you?  I hope you do, but I can’t tell by the way you write.

  63. EXDemocrat says:

    For them to admit that AQ & Iran are a bigger threat to us then GW Bush, they would have to give up the “he used the fear card” meme.

    I wonder sometimes if they can even keep track of all the bullshit they say. How can they even begin to understand what we are talking about? They don’t know what the hell they are talking about.

    I lost hope in them a long time ago. And I do not trust them to protect my country.

  64. 6Gun says:

    YGB:  Some of us were smart enough to know that we shouldn’t trust this Administration with anything more complex than refilling vending machines.

    And when they did, naturally, you had no recourse but to fit that reality—no matter what it was or ever could be—to your preconception.

    Piss off, Mister Rational Thinker.  Mister Freudian Slip.

    B Moe:  …unless by coherent you mean fantastically quick and easy.

    Maybe not, B Moe, he could be saying that the rebuilding just isn’t speaking to him coherently. It’s like, just so not connecting with him, you dig?

    Ommmmmmmmmm.

  65. Young Goodman Brown says:

    It truly must suck to have put your faith in these jokers.

  66. John Wayne says:

    Life is tough, but it’s tougher when you’re stupid.

  67. Defense Guy says:

    It truly must suck to have put your faith in these jokers.

    No, what must really suck is that you have lost your mind.  The left tries every underhanded technique it can think of to get back in power and STILL cannot beat the chimperator.  At anything. 

    You continue to exhaust yourself trying to come up with the thing to ‘get him’, even if it hurts the country or our troops, when in truth all you have ever needed to do is come up with a set of plans that the American people can get behind.

    But WE are the stupid ones. 

    It is, as they say, an odd world.

  68. Mark says:

    You continue to exhaust yourself trying to come up with the thing to ‘get

    him’, even if it hurts the country or our troops, when in truth all you

    have ever needed to do is come up with a set of plans that the American

    people can get behind.

    That’s exactly right Defense Guy. I vote mostly Republican because I agree with their positions most of the time—it helps a great deal to actually, you know, have a position.

    I always, though, vote for my incumbent Democrat Congressman because he stands firm in his convictions and has a platform. I don’t agree with much of what he espouses, but it’s enough because the Reps never put up a candidate against him that has any clue of what he’s about other than he wants to beat the Dem—that’s simply not good enough (as witnessed by the Dem guy winning reelection consistently).

    It won’t be good enough for the Dems in general in ‘06 or ‘08 either. I mean like, all they’ve got is Dean ranting on the subject du jour in such a disjointed way that I’m surprised he can breathe on his own.

  69. Why is it that those commenting from the Left don’t ever begin an anti-Bush… um… thingie (trying to avoid going with “rant” or “screed”), with “All right, it’s great that Afghanistan and Iraq have held elections and that representative government appears to be taking hold there”? Or, if they can’t bring themselves to admit that Iraq is way better off without that butcher in power, and with a constitution, and with a representative coalition government forming in spite of the best efforts of the “insurgency” and its sympathizers to sabotage it, even just, “OK, I’m glad that Afghanistan is better off than it was under the Taliban, and that representative government there seems to be taking hold”?

    On those ever-so-rare occasion when a Left-side commenter speaks a positive word about Afghanistan, even, it’s almost universally followed up by, “Of course, we wouldn’t have had to unseat the Taliban if prior Republican administrations hadn’t put them into power in the first place,” (a) as if that’s what happened, and (b) as if that reflects at all on what the Bush administration has done in Afghanistan. Bush’s actions have, at minimum, brought about new governments in two nations, both of those governments more liberal and more friendly toward the US than prior ones. Yet Bush is (simultaneously) incompetent and sinister, and his administrations have all the hallmarks of historic failure. Young Goodman Brown, beetroot, what say you?

    adhocornot, I ask you the same question, but without the j’accuse! – your excerpt concerning 4GW is indeed timely and relevant, and I’m curious about how you view YGB’s and beetroot’s assertions that because Republicans are in the majority in government today, the Left’s (I won’t say “Democrats’” because I still don’t think all American Democrats go along with the idea) continual, binary (in the sense that it’s just on or off, no proportion), scattershot “dissent” is without consequences. I would love to see a leader arise from the Democratic Party – for that matter, from the Republican Party well enough in advance of 2008 for me to be able to evaluate him or her – whose ideas were actually ideas and actually different from the Bush Doctrine in more than “nuance” (“We should have brought France into negotiations sooner,” as a baseless example for illustrative purposes, would not be a different plan but (a) a quibble and (b) hindsight).

    If 4GW is what we’re waging – and I agree that that’s what’ll win or lose in Iraq and in the Islamic world as a whole – how do we, as a free society, go about investing dissenters in our victory so that if they want to dissent, they can at least gauge the potential consequences of their dissent against the benefits of victory? What’s going on? Is it an extended sense of disenfranchisement that’s causing this stubborn clinging to any possible story that could bring Bush down, regardless of the cost? Or what? Because time and time and time again, the stories surface, there’s a whole bunch of hullaballoo, and upon closer examination they fade; even when there’s a bitty kernel of fact inside all the tasteless pulp, there’s yet to be enough truth in any of the anti-Bush allegations to justify the level of outrage.

  70. Young Goodman Brown says:

    McArdle, we have engaged in a half war in Afghanistan… we invaded and we are now in the process of leaving the nation for the Taliban.  The decision to pull the overwhelming majority of our troops out of Afghanistan and into Iraq was the turning point.  They are more powerful than ever say police and government officials, village elders, farmers and aid workers across southern Afghanistan.

    In Iraq, things are bad and getting worse.  If you are setting the bar at “We’re better than Saddam!” as a sign of success, then I weep for your sad little soul.

    Bush’s actions have, at minimum, brought about new governments in two nations, at the low-low cost of a couple trillion dollars, the trust of our allies, and a few thousand American lives (and counting).

    Bill Kristol publicly called out the Administration as incompetent this morning.  Too little, too late.  But at least it is an open acknowledgement that faith in this Administration is misplaced and dangerous.

    If you trusted him, it is your own damn fault.  Accept responsiblity for supporting this fiasco instead of trying to blame those of us who warned your dumb ass in the first place.  You’re like a child who burns her hand on the stove then blames her father for telling him that it would burn.

  71. B Moe says:

    How do people as bitter and pessimistic as you manage to survive?  Are you actually able to hold down a job or do you qualify for some kind of disability?  Is being blind with rage a legitimate visual impairment?

  72. After watching “Father’s Day” on cable the other night, the notion of Billy Cystal calling anyone else incompetent makes me giggle.

  73. Young Goodman Brown says:

    I’m actually pretty amused by the collective pants-shitting of the right these days… I just wish it came w/ complementary popcorn.

  74. 6Gun says:

    I just wish [pants-shitting] came w/ complementary popcorn.

    Some leftards just write their own commentary…

    tw: George.  heh.

  75. B Moe says:

    LMFAO!

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    Palmtop PDA Pocket PC Bluetooth WiFi…175USD

    PDA POCKET PC CELULAR 200MHz WiFi……210USD

    iPaq rx3417 Pocket PC Bluetooth WiFi….300USD

    PDA HP iPaq Hx2750 Pocket PC Wifi …190USD

    PDA Acer n311 Samsung400MHz 3,7 …….200USD

    Qtek 9100 GSM GPRS PDA Pocket PC – …210USD

    PDA HP iPaq Hx2750 Pocket PC Wifi …220USD

    PDA POCKET PC HP IPAQ RX3715 …185USD

    PDA Acer n50 Premium 520MHz 3,5 TFT …195USD

    Dell Axim X3 Handheld…………..190USD

    PDA MOBILE PHONE POCKET PC XDA …..175USD

    HTC Prophet ……………………170USD

    Dell Axim X50 X50v Pocket PC………200USD

    Pocket PC e800 WiFi………………180USD

    FOR SELL NOKIA 9500 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $160usd,

    FOR SELL NOKIA 9300 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $130usd,

    FOR SELL SAMSUNG D500 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $140usd,

    FOR SELL SIDEKICK II MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $100usd

    FOR SELL SIDEKICK III MOBILE PHONE AT JUST $120usd

    NEXTEL i870 AT JUST $100usd

    NEXTEL i860 AT JUST $110usd

    NEXTEL i930 AT JUST $130usd

    MOTOROLA RAZR V3 AT JUST $140usd

    PINK MOTOROLA RAZR V3 AT JUST $140usd

    MOTOROLA RAZR V3X AT JUST $150usd

    MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST $140usd

    MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $180usd

    SONY ERICSSON W800i AT JUST $160usd

    SONY ERICSSON w600i AT JUST $160usd

    SONY ERICSSON W900i AT JUST $200usd

    SONY ERICSSON K700i AT JUST $150usd

    SONY ERICSSON K750i AT JUST $160usd

    SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST $160usd

    SONY ERICSSON P910i AT JUST $160usd

    SONY ERICSSON P990 AT JUST $200usd

    NOKIA N90 AT JUST $200usd

    NOKIA N91 AT JUST $210usd

    NOKIA N92 AT JUST $250usd

    NOKIA N70 AT JUST $170usd

    NOKIA N80 AT JUST $180usd

    NOKIA 8800 AT JUST $180usd

    NOKIA 9500 AT JUST $200usd

    NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $180usd

    TREO 650 AT JUST $140usd

    TREO 700W AT JUST $200usd

    Sprint Products Smart Device SP-i600 AT $170usd

    Sprint 6601 Pocket PC (US) AT $190usd

    PPC6700SP Sprint PCS Vision Smart Device PPC-6700 AT $200usd

    Sprint PCS PPC 6600 Camera Cell Phone PDA Pocket PC AT $140usd

    SIDEKICK II AT JUST $120usd

    MICROSOFT XBOX 360 AT JUST $160usd

    SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST $200usd

    SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $180usd

    Brand New Qtek 9000 ……………………………$150

    Brand New Qtek 9100 ……………………………$180

    Brand New Qtek 8100…………………………….$135

    Brand New Qtek 2020i……………………………$120

    Brand New Qtek 1010…………………………….$100

    Brand New Qtek 8080…………………………….$120

    Brand New Qtek 8310…………………………….$130

    Brand New Qtek 9090…………………………….$140

    Brand New I-MATE Smartflip ……. $140

    Brand New I-MATE JAMin ……… $200

    Brand New I-MATE K-JAM ……… $180

    Brand New I-MATE SP5 ……… $150

    Brand New I-MATE SP5m ……… $155

    Brand New I-MATE SP4m ……… $120

    Brand New I-MATE JAM Black …….. $150

    Brand New I-MATE JAM ……… $160

    Brand New I-MATE PDA2 ……… $190

    Brand New I-MATE PDA2k ……… $160

    Brand New I-MATE SP3i ……… $130

    Brand New I-MATE SP3 ……… $135

    Brand New I-MATE Pocket PC ……… $140

    Brand new I-MATE Smartphone2 …….. $110

    Brand New I-MATE Smartphone …….. $120

    APPLE IPOD NANO PRICE LIST

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB—$100

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB—$150

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB—$200

    X BOX 360 PRICE LIST

    Xbox 360 Core System—US$200usd –

    Xbox 360 Platinum SystemUS$190usd

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console—US$230usd.00

    PLASTATIONS

    playstation 1 ….120usd

    playstation 2…150usd

    playstation 3 …200usd

    LAPTOP

    All Toshiba laptops

    Toshiba Satellite PRO L10 $320

    Toshiba M200 $500

    Toshiba R100 $450

    Toshiba Qosmio E10 $750

    Toshiba Satellite PRO L20 $250

    Toshiba M100 $680

    Toshiba M300 $740

    Toshiba Portege A200 $320

    Toshiba Satellite L10 $330

    Toshiba Qosmio F20 $500

    Dell Laptops

    Dell Latitude D600 $290

    Dell Latitude D500 t $200

    Dell Inspiron 6000 $350

    Dell Latitude D505 $340

    Dell Latitude D610 $460

    Dell Latitude D510 $320

    Dell Inspiron 9300 $530

    Sony Laptops

    Sony VAIO VGN-T1 $680

    Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 $420

    Sony VAIO VGN-S3 $450

    Sony VAIO VGN-TX1 $840

    Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 $ 310

    Sony VAIO VGN-S4 $470

    Sony VAIO PCG-K35 $550

    SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME—$500

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO—-$430

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP-$400

    SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—$6450

    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP-$700

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$450

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$600

    SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$550

    SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$650

    SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$650

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO—$300

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO$600

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-A117S—-$600

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-S1XP—-$800

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP$330

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY–$700

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—$700

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY–$600

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.5GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—-$100

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P20-102-$500

    APPLE 5GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR-$4500

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P10-803—-$500

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—-$350

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP PACK WIFI VERSION-$400

    OQO MODEL 01 ULTRA PERSONAL COMPUTER (XP PRO)—-$450

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO A60 40GB– C2.8GHZ– 15INCH– DVD/CDR$450

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLACK)—-$550

    FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK P7010 60GB– P4 1.1GHZ– 10.6INCH– DVD/CDRW

    $600

    ASUS A4744K-LH AMD64 POWER WORKSTATION LAPTOP—$450

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (RED)-$610

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLUE)$500

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—-$300

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (YELLOW)–$500

    TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB– PM 1.5GHZ– 14INCH– WIFI– DVD-CDRW—-$500

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (SILVER)—$500

    TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB– 512MB– XP PRO—$500

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-742—$550

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 1.8GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—-$500

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7145EA—$500

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7255EA—-$500

    APPLE CINEMA HD 23-INCH TFT LCD MONITOR—-$500

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK21 5Z—$500

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X30 LWC 1500–$500

    G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY-$600

    SONY VAIO PCVW2 DESKTOP$450

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART—-$400

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-832-$400

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZT3215EA—$550

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– M40 HWM 745$500

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.3GHZ COMBO WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY-$700

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P20-801—-$500

    APPLE GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR$450

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5275EA–$400

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK21 5S—$400

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZT3350EA$400

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X15PLUS HZM—-$350

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ COMBO WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY$550

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– PCGK215M—-$400

    SONY VAIO DESKTOP– RS504–$400

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5030—$400

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-106-$400

    HP MEDIA CENTER DESKTOP COMPUTER– M1080 PHOTOSMART—$400

    APPLE IBOOK 1.2GHZ COMBO WITH 14.1 INCH DISPLAY—-$400

    APPLE GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR$400

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZV5230EA-$300

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– P28 LTC 330—$300

    SONY VAIO DESKTOP– V1—-$300

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– A40-231$300

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZV5169EA—-$300

    APPLE GHZ COMBO DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR-$300

    APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 14 INCH DISPLAY$300

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– A40-892$350

    APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY—-$300

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZV5213EA-$300

    NOTE: ALL PHONES ARE IN FACTORY SEALED BOXES, WITH

    CHARGERS, ACCESSORIES, MANUALS INCLUDED.

    NOTE IF YOU BUY 10UNITS OF OUR PRODUCTS YOU GET 1FREE

    MP3 Players

    Apple iPod Nano

    Apple iPod 20GB 4th Generation (M9282B/A)

    Apple iPod 40GB 4th Generation (M9268B/A)

    Ipod

    20GB iPod 20GB iPod

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A

    Apple 40 GB iPod photo

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A

    Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A

    Apple 60 GB iPod photo

    Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A

    Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Playe

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A

    Apple 2 GB iPod Nano

    Apple 4 GB iPod Nano

    Apple 30 GB iPod Video

    Apple 60 GB iPod Video

    PLAY STATION

    Sony PSP PlayStation Portable Game System

    Sony PSP Handheld Gaming System

    PSP Portable Console

    Sony PSP-1000KCW PlayStation Portable Value-Pack

    PSP Starter Bundle

    Sony PSP Value Pack (Ceramic White)

    Sony PSP Standard Pack (for Sony PSP)

    Sony PlayStation PSP PSP1001K

    XBOX

    Xbox 360 Premium Gold Pack Mega Sports Bundle

    Xbox Bundle Console,12 Movies, 2 Games and DVD Kit

    Xbox 360 Core Console Video Game System

    Xbox 360 “Core Sports Bundle” Video Game System

    Microsoft Xbox 360 Core System (Xbox 360)

    Xbox 360 Platinum System

    Xbox 360 Game Console System Combo Pack

    Xbox Kasumi-Chan Blue Limited Edition (for Xbox)

    Xbox 360 Fully Loaded console PAL version

    Xbox Bundle

    All are brand new and with a year quality warranty.

    DELIVERY:24 hours(to USA AND CANADA)

    49 hours other than USA AND CANADA

    SHIPMENT:FEDEX/UPS/DHL

    PAYMENT METHOD:pending on order

  77. rabian says:

    :

    >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:07:51 -0700 (PDT)

    >

    >

    >Email :

    >

    >NEW GSM PHONES/PDA – UNBEATABLE PRICES WE ARE CERTIFIED WHOLESALERS OF

    >VARIOUS GSM MOBILE PHONES AT VERY AFFORDABLE PRICES ATTACH IS OUR VERY

    >CURRENT PRICE LIST OF GSM PHONES FOR YOURREFERENCE ALL PHONES/PDA ARE

    >BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.

    >

    >We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance

    >our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as

    >Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick

    >II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.

    > We are using this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile

    phones.Do

    >kindly reply back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES

    ARE

    >LISTED BELOW:

    >

    > SAMSUNG D600 For……$120usd

    >SAMSUNG D720 For……$130usd

    >SAMSUNG D730 For……$135usd

    >SAMSUNG D800 FOR……$135usd

    >SAMSUNG D820 For……$140usd

    >SAMSUNG Z500 For……$150usd

    >rabianstore_22@doramail.com

    > SONY ERICSSON K700i For……$130usd

    >SONY ERICSSON k750i For……$140usd

    >SONY ERICSSON W800i For……$150usd

    >Sony Ericsson W810i For……$155usd

    >Sony Ericsson W900i For……$160usd

    >Sony Ericsson W950i For……$180usd

    >Sony Ericsson S700i For……$140usd

    >SONY ERICSSON P900 For……$140usd

    >Sony Ericsson P910i For……$150usd

    >Sony Ericsson p990i For……$170usd

    >Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For…..$160usd

    >

    >NOKIA 6230 for……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 6230i for…….$140usd

    >NOKIA 6260 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 9300 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 9500 For……..$140usd

    >NOKIA 7610 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA 6680 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 6682 For……..$140usd

    >NOKIA 7650 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA E60 for………$150usd

    >NOKIA E61 for………$155usd

    >NOKIA E70 for………$160usd

    >NOKIA 8800 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA N70 For………$130usd

    >NOKIA N80 For………$140usd

    >NOKIA N90 For………$160usd

    >NOKIA N91 For………$170usd

    >NOKIA N92 For………$180usd

    >NOKIA N93 For………$230usd

    >

    >SIDEKICK 2 for……..$120usd

    >SIDEKICK 3 for……..$160usd

    >

    >Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….$60 usd

    >Apple 20 GB iPod photo………………..$40 usd

    >Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………..$80 usd

    >Apple 60 GB video ipod………………..$140 usd

    >

    > MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$130usd

    >MOTOROLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$140usd

    >MOTOROLA SLVR L7 For……..$140usd

    >MOTOROLA SLVR V8 For……..$150usd

    >MOTOROLA A1000 For………..$160usd

    >MOTOROLA A1010 For………..$200usd

    >MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $120usd

    >MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $140usd

    >

    >

    >WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN

    >48HRS.

    >visit our mail address,rabianstore_22@doramail.com

    >THANKS,

    >REGARD,

  78. rabian says:

    :

    >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:07:51 -0700 (PDT)

    >

    >

    >Email :

    >

    >NEW GSM PHONES/PDA – UNBEATABLE PRICES WE ARE CERTIFIED WHOLESALERS OF

    >VARIOUS GSM MOBILE PHONES AT VERY AFFORDABLE PRICES ATTACH IS OUR VERY

    >CURRENT PRICE LIST OF GSM PHONES FOR YOURREFERENCE ALL PHONES/PDA ARE

    >BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.

    >

    >We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance

    >our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as

    >Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick

    >II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.

    > We are using this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile

    phones.Do

    >kindly reply back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES

    ARE

    >LISTED BELOW:

    >

    > SAMSUNG D600 For……$120usd

    >SAMSUNG D720 For……$130usd

    >SAMSUNG D730 For……$135usd

    >SAMSUNG D800 FOR……$135usd

    >SAMSUNG D820 For……$140usd

    >SAMSUNG Z500 For……$150usd

    >

    > SONY ERICSSON K700i For……$130usd

    >SONY ERICSSON k750i For……$140usd

    >SONY ERICSSON W800i For……$150usd

    >Sony Ericsson W810i For……$155usd

    >Sony Ericsson W900i For……$160usd

    >Sony Ericsson W950i For……$180usd

    >Sony Ericsson S700i For……$140usd

    >SONY ERICSSON P900 For……$140usd

    >Sony Ericsson P910i For……$150usd

    >Sony Ericsson p990i For……$170usd

    >Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For…..$160usd

    >

    >NOKIA 6230 for……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 6230i for…….$140usd

    >NOKIA 6260 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 9300 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 9500 For……..$140usd

    >NOKIA 7610 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA 6680 For……..$130usd

    >NOKIA 6682 For……..$140usd

    >NOKIA 7650 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA E60 for………$150usd

    >NOKIA E61 for………$155usd

    >NOKIA E70 for………$160usd

    >NOKIA 8800 For……..$150usd

    >NOKIA N70 For………$130usd

    >NOKIA N80 For………$140usd

    >NOKIA N90 For………$160usd

    >NOKIA N91 For………$170usd

    >NOKIA N92 For………$180usd

    >NOKIA N93 For………$230usd

    >

    >SIDEKICK 2 for……..$120usd

    >SIDEKICK 3 for……..$160usd

    >

    >Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….$60 usd

    >Apple 20 GB iPod photo………………..$40 usd

    >Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………..$80 usd

    >Apple 60 GB video ipod………………..$140 usd

    >

    > MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$130usd

    >MOTOROLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$140usd

    >MOTOROLA SLVR L7 For……..$140usd

    >MOTOROLA SLVR V8 For……..$150usd

    >MOTOROLA A1000 For………..$160usd

    >MOTOROLA A1010 For………..$200usd

    >MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $120usd

    >MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $140usd

    >

    >

    >WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN

    >48HRS.

    >visit our mail address,rabianstore_22@doramail.com

    >THANKS,

    >REGARD,

  79. Robert Kinney says:

    WE ARE AN ELECTRONIC DEALER WHO SPECIALIZES IN THE SALES OF MOBILEPHONES, LAPTOPS, PLASMA TV, IPODS, PSP, XBOX CONTACT US AT:fortunetimeltd1@yahoo.com,fortunetimeltd@hotmail.com

    HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHONES WE HAVE IN STOCK

    Nokia N95…………..$350usd

    NOKIA 8800 sirocco…..$280usd

    Nokia n93…………..$250usd

    Nokia n92…………..$200usd

    Nokia N70…………..$160usd

    Nokia N71…………..$150USD

    NOKIA N73…………..$165usd

    NOKIA N72…………..$160usd

    Nokia N90…………..$180usd

    Nokia N91…………..$180usd

    Nokia n80…………..$170usd

    Nokia 6682………….$160usd

    Nokia 6830………….$160usd

    Nokia 7700………….$130usd

    Nokia 1110………….$50usd

    Nokia 1600………….$65usd

    Nokia 2125………….$125usd

    Nokia 2255………….$100usd

    Nokia 3128………….$100usd

    Nokia 5140i…………$125usd

    Nokia 6101………….$135usd

    Nokia 6030………….$100usd

    Nokia 6060………….$110usd

    Nokia 7280………….$127usd

    Nokia 7600………….$90usd

    Nokia 7610………….$100usd

    Nokia 7710………….$110usd

    Nokia 810…………..$125usd

    Nokia 8800………….$180usd

    Nokia 8910i…………$145usd

    Nokia 9210i…………$142usd

    Nokia 9300………….$145usd

    Nokia 9500………….$170usd

    Nokia N Gage QD……..$128usd

    O2 3G Datacard………$127usd

    Orange Blackberry……$200usd

    Orange 3G Datacard…..$165usd

    Orange SPV C500……..$145usd

    Orange SPV M2000…….$134usd

    Panasonic X60……….$129usd

    Panasonic X70……….$134usd

    Panasonic X300………$124usd

    Panasonic X700………$152usd

    Samsung D410………..$145usd

    Samsung D500………..$160usd

    Samsung d600………..$180usd

    Samsung E310………..$134usd

    Samsung E330………..$132usd

    Samsung E600………..$128usd

    Samsung E630………..$123usd

    Samsung E700………..$125usd

    LG KG800……………$300usd

    LG 8150…………….$156usd

    LG 8150…………….$145usd

    LG G8000……………$134usd

    Qtek s200 =$100

    Qtek 9000 =$130

    Qtek 8310 =$200

    Qtek 8300 =$210

    Qtek 9100 =$240

    Qtek 8100 =$250

    Qtek s110 =$210

    Qtek s100 =$200

    MOTOROLA Maxx……….$220usd

    MOTOROLA v3xx……….$200usd

    MOTOROLA Q………….$180usd

    MOTOROLA V3X ……….$120usd

    MOTOROLA RAZR V3…….$110usd

    Motorola A600……….$146usd

    Motorola A630……….$148usd

    Motorola A760……….$150usd

    Motorola A780……….$154usd

    Motorola v872……….$140usd

    Motorola A840……….$162usd

    Motorola E1…………$134usd

    Motorola MPX………..$125usd

    Motorola MPX100……..$120usd

    Motorola MPX300.,……$115usd

    Sony Ericsson J210i….$120usd

    Sony Ericsson J300i….$122usd

    Sony Ericsson K300i….$123usd

    Sony Ericsson K508i….$132usd

    Sony Ericsson K600i….$128usd

    Sony Ericsson K608i….$127usd

    Sony Ericsson S600i….$134usd

    Sony! Ericsson V600i…$132usd

    Sony Ericsson V800i….$137usd

    Sony Ericsson W800i….$140usd

    sony Ericsson w600i….$138usd

    sony Ericsson p910i….$140usd

    Sony Ericsson P900…..$160usd

    Sony Ericsson P980i….$180usd

    Sony Ericsson P990…..$200usd

    Nextel i930…………$130usd

    Nextel i870…………$110usd

    Nextel i860…………$110usd

    Sidekick 2 …………$150usd

    Sidekick 3………….$250usd

    Treo 600……………$150usd

    Treo 650……………$180usd

    Treo 700p ………….$250usd

    Eten m500-………………..$200

    Eten m600……………….Us$230

    I.mate SPL …………$250usd

    i-mate JAQ………….$280usd

    i-mate JASJAM……….$300usd

    i-mate Smartflip…….$200usd

    i-mate PDA2…………$240usd

    Panasonic TH-37PHD8UK Plasma $650

    Panasonic TH-42PWD8UK Plasma $700

    Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK Plasma $790

    Panasonic TH-42PD50U EDTV $750

    Panasonic TH-42PX50U Plasma $750

    Panasonic TH-50PX50U Plasma $900

    panasonic TH-65PHD8UK Plasma $900

    Sony FWD-42PV1 Plasma Display $500

    Sony PFM-42X1 Plasma Display $550

    Sony FWD-50PX2 Plasma Display $700

    Philips 42PF7320A/37 Plasma TV $600

    Philips 42PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $700

    Philips 50PF7320A/37 Plasma HDTV $720

    Philips 50PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $550

    Philips 50PF9830A/37 Plasma HDTV $800

    Samsung HPP3761 Plasma TV $610

    Samsung PPM42M5S Plasma Display $505

    Samsung SPP4251 Plasma TV $700

    Samsung PPM42M5H Plasma Display $550

    Samsung HPR4252 Plasma $680

    Samsung HPR4262 Plasma TV $550

    Samsung HPR4272 Plasma $560

    Samsung PPM50M5H Plasma Display $870

    Samsung HPR5052 Plasma $670

    Samsung HPR5072 Plasma $780

    Samsung HPP5581 Plasma TV $780

    Samsung PPM63H3Q Plasma Display $700

    Samsung HPR6372 Plasma $820

    Hitachi CMP4211u Plasma $850

    Hitachi CMP4212u Plasma $890

    Hitachi 42HDF52 Plasma HDTV $920

    Hitachi 42HDT52 Plasma TV $700

    Hitachi 55HDS52 Plasma HDTV $980

    Hitachi 55HDT52 Plasma TV $950

    Hitachi CMP-55HDM71 Plasma $1200

    AOC Envision A42W64 Plasma $600

    Maxent MX-42VM7 Plasma EDTV $770

    Maxent MX-50X2 Plasma $600

    NEC 42VP5 Plasma TV $600

    NEC 42VM5HA Plasma TV $670

    NEC 42VR5HA Plasma – Silver $500

    NEC PX-42XM3A Plasma Display $500

    NEC PX-42XM4A Plasma Display $650

    NEC PX-42XR4A Plasma Display $650

    NEC PX-50XM5A Plasma Display $770

    NEC PX-50XR5A Plasma Display $700

    NEC PX-61XM3A Plasma Display $800

    NEC PX-61XM4A Plasma Display $850

    NEC PX-61XR4A Plasma Display $800

    NEC PX-84VP5A Plasma Display $990

    NEC PX-84VM5A Plasma Display $1100

    Pioneer pdp-424mv plasma TV -$1,800

    Pioneer pdp-42a3hd plasma TV -$1,720

    Pioneer pdp-434cmx plasma tv-$1,880

    Pioneer pdp-43a5hd plasma tv-$1,800

    Pioneer pdp-4360hd plasma TV -$1,700

    Pioneer pdp-504cmx plasma tv-$1,800

    Pioneer pdp-505cmx plasma TV -$1,670

    Pioneer pdp-5060hd plasma tv-$1,890

    AND MANY MORE PHONES,LAPTOPS,PLASMA & LCD TV’S IN STOCK,INTERESTED BUYER SHOULD CONTACT US AT:fortunetimeltd1@yahoo.com,fortunetimeltd2@yahoo.com

  80. steve kenny says:

    Dear sir/ma

    we are an electronics seller we sell all kinds of mobile phones, plantations, Xbox, computer laptops plasma TV, psp, ipods, sidekick3, and lots more at a very cheap prices, We ship out through Fedral Express shipping company or EMS,

    Here are some of the product we have in stock and if you think what you need is not listed below kindly place the name of the product you wish to buy and we shall get it for you.

    Thanks And God Bless.

    NOKIA PHONES PRICE LIST

    NOKIA 8800 AT JUST ….$220

    NOKIA N80 AT JUST…$160

    NOKIA N70 AT JUST…$150

    NOKIA 9500 AT JUST…$180

    NOKIA 8801 AT JUST…$170

    NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $180

    NOKIA 7280 AT JUST $130,

    NOKIA 6630 at just $130

    NOKIA 7610, AT JUST $120

    NOKIA N90 AT JUST $200

    NOKIA N91 AT JUST $210

    NOKIA N92 AT JUST $220

    NOKIA N93 AT JUST $230

    MOTOROLA PHONES PRICE LIST

    MOTOROLA RAZOR V3…..130

    MOTOROLA MPX 200 ….$125USD

    MOTOROLA A12000 $130

    NEXTEL PRICE LIST

    NEXTEL I860 AT JUST ….$100

    NEXTEL I930 AT JUST …$120

    SAMSUNG PRICE LIST

    SAMSUNG E700 AT JUST $140

    SAMSUNG E715 AT JUST $140

    SAMSUNG E 800 AT JUST $150

    SAMSUND D500 AT JUST $140

    SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST $150

    SONY ERICSSON PHONES

    SONY ERICSSON W900i AT $170

    SONY ERICSSON W600 AT $130

    SONY ERICSON K500i, $100

    SONY ERICSON S700i $120

    SONY ERICSON Z1010 $150

    SONY ERICSON k790 $140

    T-Mobile sidekick 3…$150USD

    T-Mobile Sidekick 2 ..$110USD

    Blackberry 16MB col…$220USD

    Blackberry 8700c……$250USD

    Blackberry 7230…….$220USD

    Blackberry 7290…….$180USD

    Qtek 9100………….$280USD

    Qtek 9000………….$300USD

    new Qtek…………..$100USD

    Qtek 850…………..$190USD

    Qtek 8500………… $130USD

    Qtek S200………… $180USD

    Qtek 9000…………. $250USD

    O2 XDA ATOM $180

    SIDEKICK 3

    SIDEKICK3 $160

    BENQ

    BENQ SIEMENS P51— Price $180

    BENQ P50 $140

    NEC

    NEC e636 $100

    ETEN

    ETEN M600 $190

    ETEN G500 $170

    AND MANY MORE PHONES IN STOCK,

    MICROSOFT XBOX 360 AT JUST $160usd

    APPLE IPOD NANO PRICE LIST

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB—$100

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB—$150

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB—$200

    LEXAR 2568 MB USB DRIVE AND MP3 PLAYER—US$35

    iRiver H10red6gb H10 6gb Mp3 Player- Red—US$100

    iRiver IFP-790T MP3 Player—US$39

    Rio Cali 256MB 90260473 Cali MP3 Player (256 MB) —

    $50

    RCA RD2850 Lyra 20GB Audio Jukebox MP3 Player —

    US$120

    Samsung 5GB Micro HDD Jukebox MP3 Player with Color

    Display—US$90

    iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player – Red—US$200 –

    Rio Rio-CARBON6P 6GB MP3 Player with Voice Recorder —

    US$139

    Kinyo AMF-188 128MB 6-In-1 MP3 Player—US$110

    Rio Chiba Urban 256mb MP3 Player—US $105

    X BOX 360 PRICE LIST

    Xbox 360 Core System—US$200usd –

    Xbox 360 Platinum SystemUS$190usd

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console—US$230usd.

    Intec G8600 Xbox 360 9.2 TFT Screen—US$93.

    PLASTATIONS

    playstation 1 ….100usd

    playstation 2…130usd

    playstation 3 …200usd

    Digital camera

    Acer cs-5530 digital camera=$150

    Canon ixus 700 digital camera= $200

    Canon ixus 750 digital camera =$160

    Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (jet black)=$210

    Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (Sahara)=$200

    Canon power shot s80 digital camera = $220

    Casio exilim ex-s500 digital camera (orange, )= $230

    Digital blue qx5 digital microscope= $170

    Fuji film finepix f10 digital camera =$150

    Nikon d2x digital camera (body only)=$140

    Olympus fe-100 digital camera =$150

    PLASMA TV

    NEC 84VP4 Plasma TV $800usd

    Pioneer PDP424MV Plasma TV $900usd

    Pioneer PDP42A3HD Plasma TV $800usd

    Pioneer PDP434CMX Plasma TV $100 0usd

    Pioneer PDP43A5HD Plasma TV $100 0usd

    Pioneer PDP4360HD Plasma TV $900usd

    Pioneer PDP504CMX Plasma TV$800usd

    Pioneer PDP505CMX Plasma TV $800usd

    Pioneer PDp5060HD Plasma TV$800usd

    Pioneer PDP 6100 HD Plasma TV $100 0usd

    Pioneer PDP614MX Plasma TV $800usd

    samsung HPR5052 Plasma TV $1200usd

    Toshiba 42DPC85 Plasma TV$900usd

    Toshiba 42HPX95 Plasma TV-$500usd

    Toshiba 50HP95 Plasma TV $500usd

    Toshiba 50HPX95 Plasma TV$700usd

    COMPUTER LAPTOP

    All Toshiba laptops

    Toshiba Satellite PRO L10 $320

    Toshiba M200 $500

    Toshiba R100 $450

    Toshiba Qosmio E10 $750

    Toshiba Satellite PRO L20 $250

    Toshiba M100 $680

    Toshiba M300 $740

    Toshiba Portege A200 $320

    Toshiba Satellite L10 $330

    Toshiba Qosmio F20 $500

    Dell Laptops

    Dell Latitude D600 $290

    Dell Latitude D500 t $200

    Dell Inspiron 6000 $350

    Dell Latitude D505 $340

    Dell Latitude D610 $460

    Dell Latitude D510 $320

    Dell Inspiron 9300 $530

    Sony Laptops

    Sony VAIO VGN-T1 $680

    Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 $420

    Sony VAIO VGN-S3 $450

    Sony VAIO VGN-TX1 $840

    Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 $ 310

    Sony VAIO VGN-S4 $470

    Sony VAIO PCG-K35 $550

    INTERESTED BUYER SHOULD CONTACT US

    EMAIL :brandnewmobilephonesinc@hotmail.com

    :brandnewmobilephonesinc@yahoo.com

    :choicemobilephones@yahoo.com

    PHONE# : hotline +2348028594176

    : fax +2348028594176

    ADDRESS: #5 Gsm Village Ikeja Lagos

    Head Quater Office: Floor 10 Kwari Road FCT Abuja Nigeria

  81. Neuville Pillay says:

    we sell nokia n93 for just $200usd (Whitby Lane, Guisborough, North Yorkshire, TS13 6P)

    Dear Customers.

    Here is newest offer given by our great company given to mobile phone sellers and buyers all over the world as mobile phone company has come to extend there mobile saleing to all over the world for people to get more achivenment and enjoy benefits of the mobile company.

    We deliver via DHL and deliver within 1day and 24hours to any part of the worlds..Europe,america,africa,asia,carribeans and all over the world as we make benefits in giving you 100% customer service and we do wire transfer to make things fast and effective as we send immediately after the confirmation.

    labels are brand new ,unlock they are sim free and work with any network and simcards,

    T2 Euro spec with operator Logo and also comes with Manual of your Choice including(English,Spanish,Afrikan,czech,Arabic,italia,Switsz,french and many more.)If you are located near us you can simply rush down to Whitby Lane, Guisborough, North Yorkshire, TS14 6PT middlesbrough to get them in the items which you ever wanted. Located outside us comes with discount and shippment to your door step. Get back to us with your order and delivery details.

    we also sell new brand of translator at a cheaper price,our Translator comes in it oun package,full accessories and also with manual.we sell Tramslator for disables such as deaf and dump.we sell different model of Translator such as<EPSON MODEL,ADTRAN MODEL,ECTACO MODEL > and lot more.

    Here are the price list;

    NOKIA N95 [UNLOCK].. $250

    NOKIA N73.[UNLOCK]… $200

    NOKIA 2610.[UNLOCK].. $200

    NOKIA 6090(UNLOCK)– US$110

    NOKIA 6100(UNLOCK)– US$80

    NOKIA 6600(UNLOCK)– US$140

    NOKIA 6210(UNLOCK)– US$80

    NOKIA 6250(UNLOCK)– US$90

    NOKIA 6500(CR)UNLOCK–US$90

    NOKIA 6510(UNLOC)– US$110

    NOKIA 6590[C/R]UNLOCK–US$75

    NOKIA 6310(UNLOCK)– US$90

    NOKIA 6310i(UNLOCK)– US$80

    NOKIA 6610(UNLOCK)– US$83

    NOKIA 6800(UNLOCK)– US$90

    NOKIA 7110(UNLOCK)– US$95

    NOKIA 7210 Turquoise(UNLOCK)– US$103

    NOKIA 7250(UNLOCK)– US$110

    NOKIA 7260(UNLOCK)– US$140

    NOKIA 7650(UNLOCK)– US$120

    NOKIA 7270(UNLOCK)– US$145

    NOKIA 7380(UNLOCK)– USD110

    NOKIA 7280(UNLOCK)– USD90

    NOKIA 7280(UNLOCK)– US$120

    NOKIA 8310(UNLOCK)– US$85

    NOKIA 8390 1900 MHZ –US$95

    NOKIA 7600(UNLOCK)–US$124

    NOKIA 8910 Titanium– US$100

    NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$105

    NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$100

    NOKIA 8910 Black– US$110

    NOKIA 9210 Communicator– US$110

    NOKIA 9210i Communicator– US$110

    NOKIA 8910i– US$150

    NOKIA 9500 AT JUST $195usd

    NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$120

    NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $140usd

    NOKIA N90 AT JUST $130usd

    NOKIA N91 AT JUST $160usd

    NOKIA N92 AT JUST $200usd

    SONY ERICSSON T616 850/1900 –US$145

    SONY ERICSSON R520m(UNLOCK)– US$89

    SONY CMD-Z5– US$89

    SONY ERICSSON R380 World– US$89

    SONY ERICSSON R380s– US$69

    SONY ERICSSON T68m– US$79

    SONY ERICSSON T610– US$109

    SONY CMD-MZ5– US$139

    SONY ERICSSON P800(UNLOCK)– US$145

    SONY ERICSSON P900(UNLOCK)—US$148

    SONY ERICSSON P980i(UNLOCK)—US$145

    SONY ERICSSON W800i AT JUST $130usd

    SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST $100usd

    MOTOROLA V300[UNLOCK]C/R– US$100

    MOTOROLA V400[UNLOCK]C/R– US$115

    MTOROLA T720 C/R[CINGULAR]–US$80

    MOTOROLA V600—US$120

    MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST $100usd,

    MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $120usd,

    MOTOROLA V661 AT JUST $130USD

    SAMSUNG SGH-A500– US$120

    SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne– US$100

    SAMSUNG SGH-V200– US$110

    SAMSUNG SGH-T200– US$110

    SAMSUNG SGH-R225 TRIBAND –US$95

    SAMSUNG SGH-S307 850/1900–US$110

    SAMSUNG V205[USED]TRIMODE–US$65

    i58sr –55USD

    i2000—50USD

    i830–120USD

    NEXTEL i930 AT JUST $90usd,

    NEXTEL i860 AT JUST $70usd,

    SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $125usd,

    SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST $100usd

    SAGEM PRODUCT

    MY S-7 $120

    MY X7 $90

    MY X 8 $125

    MYC5-2 $60

    SIDEKICKS

    SIDE KICK 3 NEWEST $140

    T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone…….$110 usd

    T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone…….$120 usd

    Mobile Sidekick II……..$90 usd

    ProTop 2 Piece Hardtop Suzuki Vitara / Chevy Tracker…..$130 usd

    Protop 2 Piece Hardtop for Sidekick / Tracker ………..$140 usd

    Sidekick 2 for 100usd

    T-Mobile Sidekick 2 NOW with Service for 80usd

    T-Mobile To Go Prepaid Sidekick II for 110usd

    Sidekick II for T-Mobile with new service Plan 115usd

    T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone for 110 usd

    1996 Transfer Case: Sidekick 1996, and 1997 automatic….$120 usd

    Sidekick Basic Kit……$130 usd

    Sidekick II T-Mobile Cell Phone with Color Screen……..$110 usd.

    Acer TravelMate 1.3GHz Celeron M 256MB/40GB CD-RW/DVD ;;$250

    Acer Aspire 1.5GHz Celeron 256MB Laptop Computer 192028 ;;;$399

    Electrovaya – PP120A – Power Pad 120 ;;; $250

    IntelliStation A Pro 622439U Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 ;;; $500

    IntelliStation A Pro 622439U with NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 ;;$500

    IntelliStation A Pro 6224 Opteron 248 36.4 2.2GHz 2GB ;;;$500

    Low Price Averatec Notebook ;;;;$320

    Gateway 2000 Solo 2100 2200 Lenmar LBGT2100L Battery ;;;$110

    IBM Thinkpad T42 1.7GHz 512MB 40GB CD-RW/DVD 15” XGA ;;$400

    IBM ThinkPad X41 Tablet PC 1.5GHz 1.5GB 60GB Bluetooth;;;$500

    IBM Thinkpad T43 1.86GHz 2GB 60GB DVD Burner 14.1” SXGA ;;;$650

    IBM Thinkpad R52 1.73GHz 768MB 40GB CD-RW/DVD 15” XGA ;;;;$330

    Viewsonic Tablet Pc V1250, Convertible Tablet;;$440

    Dell Inspiron 8500 PIV 2.6GHz 30GB 512MB CDRW-DVD ROM ;;$400

    Dell Latitude D600 PM 1.4GHz 40GB 512MB DVD-R Burner;;;; $330

    Dell Latitude C600 850MHz Pentium IIl 256MB/20GB CD-RW ;;$300

    Dell Latitude C640 Intel Pentium 4-M 2.0GHz 14.1-inch …;;;$480

    HP Laptops DV4307CL 1GB 100GB DVDRW 15.4” Free Bundle;;;;$300

    High End HP Laptop 1GB 100GB DVDRW 15.4 WXGA Brightview ;;$320

    Sager 9750 Laptop ;;$550

    Compaq/Hewlett Packard 1GHz Laptop ;;;$350

    Toshiba Satellite A55-S1064 15” Laptop w/ 1.60GHz Intel;;;$250

    Toshiba libretto U100 Laptop Computer ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;$450

    Toshiba Libretto U100 PM 7.2” Laptop w/ Intel Centrino ;;;$400

    Sager 5720 Laptop ;;;;$750

    SONY VAIO PM 1.86GHz 1GB 40GB CDRW DVD WiFi XP ;;;$350

    SONY VAIO T43 2GHz 1GB 60GB Multiburner ABG WiFi XP ;;;$720

    SONY VAIO X40 1.5GHz 1.28GB 40GB UltraBase Combo X41;;;$700

    SONY VAIO X41 PM 1.5GHz 1GB 40GB B/G WiFi Win XP ;;;;;$450

    SONY VAIO X41 Tablet PM 1.5GHz 512MB 40GB B/G WiFi ;;;$480

    SONY VAIO T43 2.0GHz 2GB 80GB Bluetooth 14.1” SXGA+ ;;;$500

    Apple 20 GB iPod ……45 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD

    Apple 40 GB iPod photo……40 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A…..60 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod photo …..55 USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A….50 USD

    Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD

    Apple 2 GB iPod Nano…..50 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………60 USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……110 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……150 USD

    you can contact me on the following information,

    Regards

    Mnagement.

    CONTACT..




    FOR SELL”””THE BRAND NEW Canon ixus 700 digital camera………………$200

    Digital Camera

    Digital camera

    Acer cs-5530 digital camera………………..$150

    Canon ixus 700 digital camera………………$200

    Canon ixus 750 digital camera………………$160

    Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (jet black)…$210

    Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (Sahara)……$200

    Canon power shot s80 digital camera…………$220

    Casio exilim ex-s500 digital camera (orange, ).$230

    Digital blue qx5 digital microscope…………$170

    Fuji film finepix f10 digital camera………..$150

    Nikon d2x digital camera (body only)………..$140

    Olympus fe-100 digital camera………………$150

    FOR SELL SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—$300 (oakland lake merritt/grand)

    WE ALSO SELL ALL KINDS OF PLASMA TELEVISION’S SUCH AS….. Sony fwd-50px1 plasma TV – $3,200 Sony kde-50xs955 plasma TV -$2,600 Samsung hp-r4252 plasma TV – $1,899 Samsung hp-r5052 plasma TV $2,,899 Samsung hp-p5581 plasma TV – $6,799 Toshiba 42dpc85 plasma tv-$1,300 Toshiba 42hpx95 plasma tv-$980:00 Toshiba 50hp95 plasma TV -$950:00 Toshiba 50hpx95 plasma tv-$1,200 WE ALSO SELL ALL KINDS OF APPLE IPOD NANO SUCH AS … Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….110 USD Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….150 USD WE ARE ALSO SELLING ALL KINDS OF LAPTOPS SUCH AS…… SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—$300 SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—-$250 SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—-$400 SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—-$350 SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—-$350

    We are sellers of all sort of electronics (alameda)

    We are sellers of all sort of electronics, such as cellphones, radio and tv set, games, vidio cameras, ipodss, laptops and many more.

    we have in stock new and sealed in original company

    box with complete accessoies.Presently we have all the

    latest phones in stock at mouth watering prices..Contact us at: or or

    Play station 1……… $100

    Play station 2 ….$110

    Play station 3…..$120

    Dream cast…….$140

    samsung handycam 380 x 310 – 41 …$480

    samsung handycam 380 x 380 – 45…$470

    Samsung mini-dvd-r mini-dvd-rw 205 x 154 – 7 …$600

    Samsung mini-dvd-r mini-dvd-rw 200 x 347 – 14 …$630

    Sony HandyCam..500 x 379 – 35..$320

    Sony lanza tres nuevas 309 x 206 – 19…$480

    Sony DCRHC65 MiniDV Digital 500 x 339 – 30 …$620

    Sony Handycam DCR-HC17 miniDV 500 x 405 – 35…$650

    Sony-Handycam-Dcr-Trv238.317 x 270 – 17 …$500

    Apple 60 GB ipod video = $100.00

    Apple 30 GB ipod video = $100.00

    Xbox 360………$150

    GARMIN 396……..$130

    Apple 4 GB ipod nano =us$60.00

    Apple 2 GB ipod nano =us$55.00

    Apple 4 GB ipod mini silver m9160ll/a=us$43.00

    Apple 60 GB ipod photo m9830ll/a =us$82.00

    Apple 60 GB ipod photo =us$49.00

    Apple 30 GB ipod photo m9829ll/a =us$73.00

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    NEXTEL i870at JUST FOR ..$140usd

    NEXTEL i450 JUST FOR ..90usd

    NEXTEL i860 JUST FOR ..$110USD

    NEXTEL I285 JUST FOR $150

    NEXTEL I830 JUST FOR $160

    Nextel i730…$85

    Nextel i733…$95

    Nextel i736…$115

    Nextel i930…$130

    SAMSUNG SCH i830 JUST FOR …$220USD

    SAMSUNG MM-1940 JUST FOR ..$190USD

    SAMSUNG SGH D307JUST FOR..$180USD

    SAMSUNG SGH D720 JUST FOR …$170USD

    SAMSUNG D500 JUST FOR ..$160USD

    MOTOROLA V3 RAZ JUST FOR..$160USD BLACK COLOR,

    MPX 300 JUST FOR .$180USD

    SIDEKICK 2 JUST FOR ..$120USD

    SONYERICSSON P990 JUST FOR …$210USD

    SONYERICSSON W900 JUST …$190USD

    SONYERICSSON Z500a JUST FOR .$180usd

    SONYERICSSON Z520 JUST FOR .$190USD

    SONYERICSSON P910 JUST FOR..$160USD

    SONYERICSSON P800 JUST FOR.$130USD

    SONYERICSSON K750i JUST FOR .$150USD

    SONYERICCSON W800I JUST FOR ….$160

    MOTOROLA V3 BLACK JUST FOR $160,PINK $200,BLUE $270

    NOKIA 9500 COMMUNICATOR JUST FOR ..$220USD

    NOKIA 9300 COMMUNICATOR JUST FOR ..$210USD

    NOKIA 7360 JUST FOR ..$170USD

    NOKIA 7370 JUST FOR ..$180USD

    NOKIA 770 JUST FOR .$160USD

    NOKIA 6682 JUST FOR $150USD

    NOKIA 7380 JUST FOR$200USD

    NOKIA 8800 JUST FOR $220USD

    NOKIA N90 JUST FOR $200USD

    NOKIA N91 JUST FOR $250USD

    NOKIA N92 JUST FOR…$220USD

    NOKIA N93 JUST FOR $280USD

    NOKIA N80 JUST FOR $250USD

    NOKIA N71 JUST FOR …$200USD

    NOKIA N70 JUST FOR …$180USD

    NOKIA E60 JUST FOR A $160USD

    NOKIA E61 FOR At ..$180USD

    NOKIA 3250 JUST FOR ..$290USD.

    All our product are nagotiable

    SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME-$500

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$430

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$400

    SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$6450

    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$700

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$450

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$600

    SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$550

    SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—$650

    SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$650

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$300

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$600

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-A117S–$600

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-S1XP–$800

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—$330

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY–$700

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER–$700

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY–$600

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.5GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—$100

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P20-102—-$500

    APPLE 5GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR-$4500

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P10-803—$500

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP-$350

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP PACK WIFI VERSION-$400

    OQO MODEL 01 ULTRA PERSONAL COMPUTER (XP PRO)—$450

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO A60 40GB– C2.8GHZ– 15INCH– DVD/CDR$450

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLACK)—-$550

    FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK P7010 60GB– P4 1.1GHZ– 10.6INCH– DVD/CDRW

    $600

    ASUS A4744K-LH AMD64 POWER WORKSTATION LAPTOP—$450

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (RED)—$610

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLUE)—$500

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—$300

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (YELLOW)–$500

    TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB– PM 1.5GHZ– 14INCH– WIFI– DVD-CDRW—-$500

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (SILVER)—$500

    TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB– 512MB– XP PRO—$500

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-742—$550

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 1.8GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER–$500

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7145EA–$500

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7255EA–$500

    APPLE CINEMA HD 23-INCH TFT LCD MONITOR–$500

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK21 5Z–$500

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X30 LWC 1500–$500

    G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY-$600

    SONY VAIO PCVW2 DESKTOP–$450

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART–$400

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-832–$400

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZT3215EA–$550

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– M40 HWM 745–$500

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.3GHZ COMBO WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY-$700

    Qtek phones

    Qtek s200…..$200

    Qtek 9000…..$120

    Qtek 9600…..$170

    Qtek 8310 ….$170

    Qtek 8300…..$180

    Qtek 9100…..$185

    Qtek 8100…..$195

    Qtek s110…..$190

    Qtek s100…..$180

    Qtek 9090…..$185

    Qtek 8020…..$195

    Qtek 8010…..$160

    Qtek 2020i….$200

    Qtek 2020…..$190

    Qtek 8080…..$120

    Qtek 8060…..$130

    Qtek 1010…..$120

    Qtek 7070…..$210

    O2 XDA Atom……$220

    BenQ-Siemens P51.$220

    BenQ P50………$180

    ETEN M600……..$200

    ETEN G500……..$180

    I-MATE PHONES

    I-MATE Smartflip .. $140

    I-MATE JAMin … $200

    I-MATE JASJAR …. $200

    I-MATE K-JAM ….. $160

    I-MATE SP5 ……… $150

    I-MATE SP5m ….. $155

    I-MATE SP4m …… $120

    I-MATE JAM Black . $150

    I-MATE JAM …… $160

    I-MATE PDA2 …… $190

    I-MATE PDA2k ……… $168

    I-MATE SP3i ……… $130

    I-MATE SP3 ……… $135

    I-MATE Pocket PC ……… $140

    I-MATE Smartphone2 …….. $110

    I-MATE Smartphone …….. $115

    Play station 1……… $90

    Play station 2 ….$110

    GARMIN 396……..$130

    Game boy latest edition..$100

    w/xbox 360 hard drive,

    xbox 360 wireless controller,

    xbox 360 faceplate,

    xbox 360 headset,

    xbox 360 component hd-av cable,

    xbox live silver membership

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    $200 per-unit

    Forsale

    plasma television:

    Sony fwd-50px1 plasma TV – $4,200

    Sony kde-50xs955 plasma TV -$3,600

    Samsung hp-r4252 plasma TV – $3000.00

    Samsung hp-r5052 plasma TV $4000.000

    Samsung hp-p5581 plasma TV – $7,800.00

    Toshiba 42dpc85 plasma tv-$1,300

    Bayo benson: Toshiba 42hpx95 plasma tv-$1950.00

    Toshiba 50hp95 plasma TV -$2000.00

    Toshiba 50hpx95 plasma tv-$2000.00

    NEC 42xm3 plasma TV -$2200.00

    NEC 42xr3 plasma TV -$1850.00

    NEC 50xm4 plasma TV -$1980.00

    NEC 50xr4 plasma TV -$2000.00

    NEC 61xm3 plasma TV -$2100.00

    NEC 61xr3plasma TV -$2300.00

    NEC 84vp4 plasma TV -$2400.00

    Pioneer pdp-424mv plasma TV -$2880.00

    Pioneer pdp-42a3hd plasma TV -$3100.00

    Pioneer pdp-434cmx plasma tv-$3200.00

    Pioneer pdp-43a5hd plasma tv-$3400.00

    Pioneer pdp-4360hd plasma TV -$3600.00

    Pioneer pdp-504cmx plasma tv-$3700.00

    Pioneer pdp-505cmx plasma TV -3800.00

    Pioneer pdp-5060hd plasma tv-$4000.00

    Qtek s200 =$100.00 Apple 20 GB iPod $126.00 sony ericson p900 $150.00

    PLASMA T.V FOR SALE…..

    Samsung LN-R268W 26 in Flat Panel LCD TV …….. $350

    Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E60A20 60 in Rear-Projection LCD TV …… $600

    Samsung HL-R4667W 46 in Rear-Projection DLP TV…….. $400

    Sony Wega KLV-S32A10 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV ……… $300

    Sony BRAVIA KLV-S26A10 26 in Flat Panel LCD TV ……….. $300

    Sharp Aquos LC-26DA5U 26 in’ LCD TV………… $300

    Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK 42 in Flat Panel Plasma TV……… $400

    Samsung HLR5078W 50 in Rear-Projection DLP TV ………… $500

    Sharp Aquos LC-20S4U 20 in Flat Panel LCD TV …………… $250

    Panasonic Onyx TH50PX500U 50 in Flat Panel Plasma TV …….. $500

    Sharp Aquos LC45GD4U 45 in Flat Panel LCD TV …………… $350

    Samsung SlimFit TX-R3079WH 30 in Flat CRT TV ……….. $350

    Samsung HL-R5688W 56 in Rear-Projection DLP TV ……….. $550

    Sharp Aquos LC-45GX6U 45 in Flat Panel LCD TV ……….. $500

    All our product are nagotiable

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  82. elias says:

    Dear Valuable Buyers,

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    camcoders,ipods,gps,laptops and mobile phones such as

    Nokia, motorola, Nextel,Palm Treo,Qtek.Samsung and many

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    Our phones are imported from Finland,Hungar,all sim lock

    free with 12 months warranty.

    *SPECIFICATIONS:

    (europeans/usa-specifications) general network gsm 900/gsm

    1800/gsm 1900

    platform – tri band (gsm900 + 1800 + 1900 MHz:

    countries where manufactured:

    Finland and Hungary.

    Here are some of our present stock:

    Samsung D900. .. ..220usd

    Samsung E770. …..220usd

    Samsung E900.. ….220usd

    Samsung X820. …..200usd

    Samsung Z400…….1800usd

    Samsung D600…….160usd

    .Benefon Twing. ….220usd

    Benq Siemens.. . …230usd

    Blackberry Paerl. . 230usd

    Lg Chocolate……200usd

    Lg U890…………220usd

    Qtek

    Qtek 8500 ……. 150usd

    Qtek S200 ……. 180usd

    Qtek 9000 ……. 250usd

    Qtek 8310 ……. 200usd

    NEXTEL PHONES.

    Nextel i930120usd

    Nextel i860150usd

    Nextel i870180usd

    Motorola Kkrz1. …150usd

    Motorola L6…… …160usd

    Motorola pebl.. ..200usd

    Motorola v3i.. . ..140usd

    Motorola q…………180usd

    Nokia N95… . … 300usd

    Nokia N73.. ….. 240usd

    Nokia N92… .. . 230usd

    Nokia N91… …. 220usd

    Nokia N90.. ……200usd

    Nokia N80… …..180usd

    Nokia N70….. . 160usd

    Nokia 6030…. ..170usd

    Nokia7360….. …180usd

    Nokia 8800… . . 200usd

    Nokia 9300i… .. 180usd

    Nokia9500…. . . 180usd

    Nokia E61….. . ..180usd

    UNLOCKED I-MATE PHONES.

    I-MATE Smartflip ……200usd

    I-MATE JAMin ……… 230usd

    I-MATE JASJAR ……..250usd

    I-MATE K-JAM ……… 210usd

    Sony Ericsson W810i… 230usd

    Sony Ericsson W850i… .230usd

    Sony Ericsson P910i……240usd

    Sony Ericsson W900i… .240usd

    Sony Ericsson W950i…..240usd

    Sony Ericsson K800i……230usd

    Sony Ericsson K600i……180usd

    Pamtreo PHONES

    Pamtreo 600-180usd

    Pamtero 650-200usd

    Treo 700220usd

    Treo 750200usd

    Palm Treo 700wx……220usd

    T Mobile Compact Li…200usd

    02 Xda Exec……………….220usd

    02 XDA Atom …………….200usd

    02 XDA NEO ……………..180usd

    HP iPAQ hw6900…………..220usd

    Cingular 3125 (HTC Sta……220usd

    Dell Axim X51v………………220usd

    HP iPAQ h6300 Series……..220usd

    RIM BlackBerry Pearl……….220usd

    TomTom GO 500180usd

    TomTom GO 510210usd

    TomTom GO 700230usd

    TomTom GO 910240usd

    TomTom RIDER.-250usd

    XBOX GAMES:

    Xbox 360 Core System –……………. 200usd

    Xbox 360 Prenium pack -…………….-220usd

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console—240usd

    Nintendo Wii (Nintendo Wii)…………150usd

    Sony PSP 4GB Core Bundle ……………180usd

    New Tickle Me Elmo T.M.X……………..100usd

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB ….60usd

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB ….80usd

    …………6GB Mp3 player ……….120

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB ….100usd

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…60USD

    Apple 2 GB iPod Nano…………………….60USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Nano……………………100USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………….120usd

    Apple 60 GB iPod Video…………………150USD

    +Free carrying case

    ….

    Camcoders Price List:

    Sony HDR-FX1…………2000usd

    Sony DCR-DVD203 …..320usd

    Sony DCR-HC90 ………570usd

    Sony DCR-HC14 ……….560usd

    Sony DCR-DVD403…….530usd

    Sony DCR-HC18 ……….200usd

    Sony DCR-SR50 ………..665usd

    Sony DCR-DVD405…. …665usd

    Sony DCR-HC44 ………..230usd

    Sony DCR-SR30 …………435usd

    Sony DCR-DVD404…….335usd

    Sony DCR-DVD505 …….665usd

    LAPTOPS Note Book PC

    SONY VAIO VGN-AR11S……..1GB 200Gb–700usd

    SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB…………………450usd

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD……………….400usd

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB………………..400usd

    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB…………………400usd

    Apple announced the (brand new G5) iMac…….400usd (used)$250usd

    Dell Inspiron 6000 $400

    Dell Latitude D505-$400

    Dell Latitude D610-$460.

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    Dear Valuable Buyers,

    We Are Independent Legal Company With An Import & Export License From The Govt. Of united States. This Means When You Deal With Us, You Are Dealing With a registered company.

    we deal on all brands and models of mobile phones such as Nokia, motorola, Nextel,Palm Treo,Qtek.

    Samsung and many more at very disconted Prices.

    we deal on all brands and models of

    camcoders,ipods,gps,laptops and mobile phones such as

    Nokia, motorola, Nextel,Palm Treo,Qtek.Samsung and many

    more at very disconted Prices

    Our phones are imported from Finland,Hungar,all sim lock

    free with 12 months warranty.

    *SPECIFICATIONS:

    (europeans/usa-specifications) general network gsm 900/gsm

    1800/gsm 1900

    platform – tri band (gsm900 + 1800 + 1900 MHz:

    countries where manufactured:

    Finland and Hungary.

    Here are some of our present stock:

    Samsung D900. .. ..220usd

    Samsung E770. …..220usd

    Samsung E900.. ….220usd

    Samsung X820. …..200usd

    Samsung Z400…….1800usd

    Samsung D600…….160usd

    .Benefon Twing. ….220usd

    Benq Siemens.. . …230usd

    Blackberry Paerl. . 230usd

    Lg Chocolate……200usd

    Lg U890…………220usd

    Qtek

    Qtek 8500 ……. 150usd

    Qtek S200 ……. 180usd

    Qtek 9000 ……. 250usd

    Qtek 8310 ……. 200usd

    NEXTEL PHONES.

    Nextel i930120usd

    Nextel i860150usd

    Nextel i870180usd

    Motorola Kkrz1. …150usd

    Motorola L6…… …160usd

    Motorola pebl.. ..200usd

    Motorola v3i.. . ..140usd

    Motorola q…………180usd

    Nokia N95… . … 300usd

    Nokia N73.. ….. 240usd

    Nokia N92… .. . 230usd

    Nokia N91… …. 220usd

    Nokia N90.. ……200usd

    Nokia N80… …..180usd

    Nokia N70….. . 160usd

    Nokia 6030…. ..170usd

    Nokia7360….. …180usd

    Nokia 8800… . . 200usd

    Nokia 9300i… .. 180usd

    Nokia9500…. . . 180usd

    Nokia E61….. . ..180usd

    UNLOCKED I-MATE PHONES.

    I-MATE Smartflip ……200usd

    I-MATE JAMin ……… 230usd

    I-MATE JASJAR ……..250usd

    I-MATE K-JAM ……… 210usd

    Sony Ericsson W810i… 230usd

    Sony Ericsson W850i… .230usd

    Sony Ericsson P910i……240usd

    Sony Ericsson W900i… .240usd

    Sony Ericsson W950i…..240usd

    Sony Ericsson K800i……230usd

    Sony Ericsson K600i……180usd

    Pamtreo PHONES

    Pamtreo 600-180usd

    Pamtero 650-200usd

    Treo 700220usd

    Treo 750200usd

    Palm Treo 700wx……220usd

    T Mobile Compact Li…200usd

    02 Xda Exec……………….220usd

    02 XDA Atom …………….200usd

    02 XDA NEO ……………..180usd

    HP iPAQ hw6900…………..220usd

    Cingular 3125 (HTC Sta……220usd

    Dell Axim X51v………………220usd

    HP iPAQ h6300 Series……..220usd

    RIM BlackBerry Pearl……….220usd

    TomTom GO 500180usd

    TomTom GO 510210usd

    TomTom GO 700230usd

    TomTom GO 910240usd

    TomTom RIDER.-250usd

    XBOX GAMES:

    Xbox 360 Core System –……………. 200usd

    Xbox 360 Prenium pack -…………….-220usd

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console—240usd

    Nintendo Wii (Nintendo Wii)…………150usd

    Sony PSP 4GB Core Bundle ……………180usd

    New Tickle Me Elmo T.M.X……………..100usd

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB ….60usd

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB ….80usd

    …………6GB Mp3 player ……….120

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB ….100usd

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…60USD

    Apple 2 GB iPod Nano…………………….60USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Nano……………………100USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………….120usd

    Apple 60 GB iPod Video…………………150USD

    +Free carrying case

    ….

    Camcoders Price List:

    Sony HDR-FX1…………2000usd

    Sony DCR-DVD203 …..320usd

    Sony DCR-HC90 ………570usd

    Sony DCR-HC14 ……….560usd

    Sony DCR-DVD403…….530usd

    Sony DCR-HC18 ……….200usd

    Sony DCR-SR50 ………..665usd

    Sony DCR-DVD405…. …665usd

    Sony DCR-HC44 ………..230usd

    Sony DCR-SR30 …………435usd

    Sony DCR-DVD404…….335usd

    Sony DCR-DVD505 …….665usd

    LAPTOPS Note Book PC

    SONY VAIO VGN-AR11S……..1GB 200Gb–700usd

    SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB…………………450usd

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD……………….400usd

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB………………..400usd

    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB…………………400usd

    Apple announced the (brand new G5) iMac…….400usd (used)$250usd

    Dell Inspiron 6000 $400

    Dell Latitude D505-$400

    Dell Latitude D610-$460.

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  83. Antonio Americo Barbosa de Oliveira Neto says:

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    I-MATE SP5 $150

    I-MATE SP5m–$155

    I-MATE SP4m–$120

    I-MATE JAM $160

    I-MATE PDA2–$190

    I-MATE SP3i–$130

    I-MATE SP3 $135

    I-MATE PDA2k-$168

    I-MATE JAMin–$240

    I-MATE JASJAR-$280

    I-MATE K-JAM–$180

    I-MATE Pocket PC–$140

    I-MATE JAM Black–$150

    I-MATE Smartflip–$140

    I-MATE Smartphone2–$110

    I-MATE Smartphone $115

    Treo 700–$200

    Treo 600–$150

    Treo 650–$160

    Sharp Mobile Phones

    Sharp 550SH— $130

    Sharp 703— $130

    Sharp 770SH— $130

    Sharp 902— $130

    Sharp 903— $130

    Sharp GX1— $130

    Sharp GX10— $130

    Sharp GX10i— $150

    Sharp GX15— $150

    Sharp GX17— $150

    Sharp GX20— $150

    Sharp GX25— $150

    Sharp GX29— $150

    Sharp GX30— $150

    Sharp GX30i— $150

    Sharp TM100— $150

    QTEK:

    Qtek 8500…..$130

    Qtek S200…..$100

    Qtek 9000…..$120

    Qtek 8310 ….$170

    Qtek 8300…..$180

    Qtek 9100…..$185

    Qtek 8100…..$195

    Qtek S110…..$190

    Qtek S100…..$180

    Qtek 9090…..$185

    Qtek 8020…..$195

    Qtek 8010…..$160

    Qtek 2020i….$200

    Qtek 2020…..$190

    Qtek 8080…..$120

    Qtek 8060…..$130

    Qtek 1010…..$120

    Qtek 7070…..$210

    Nokia 1100— $120

    Nokia 1101— $120

    Nokia 1110— $120

    Nokia 1110i— $120

    Nokia 1112— $120

    Nokia 1600— $120

    Nokia 2100— $120

    Nokia 2300— $120

    Nokia 2310— $120

    Nokia 2600— $120

    Nokia 2610— $120

    Nokia 2650— $120

    Nokia 2652— $120

    Nokia 3100— $120

    Nokia 3120— $120

    Nokia 3200— $120

    Nokia 3220— $120

    Nokia 3230— $120

    Nokia 3250— $120

    Nokia 3300— $120

    Nokia 3310— $120

    Nokia 3410— $120

    Nokia 3510i— $130

    Nokia 3650— $130

    Nokia 3660— $130

    Nokia 5100— $130

    Nokia 5140— $130

    Nokia 5140i— $130

    Nokia 5210— $130

    Nokia 5500— $130

    Nokia 6020— $130

    Nokia 6021— $130

    Nokia 6030— $130

    Nokia 6060— $130

    Nokia 6070— $130

    Nokia 6080— $130

    Nokia 6100— $130

    Nokia 6101— $130

    Nokia 6103— $130

    Nokia 6111— $130

    Nokia 6125— $130

    Nokia 6131— $130

    Nokia 6136— $130

    Nokia 6151— $130

    Nokia 6170— $130

    Nokia 6220— $130

    Nokia 6230— $130

    Nokia 6230i— $130

    Nokia 6233— $130

    Nokia 6260— $130

    Nokia 6270— $130

    Nokia 6280— $130

    Nokia 6310i— $140

    Nokia 6600— $140

    Nokia 6610— $140

    Nokia 6610i— $140

    Nokia 6630— $140

    Nokia 6650— $140

    Nokia 6670— $140

    Nokia 6680— $140

    Nokia 6681— $140

    Nokia 6800— $140

    Nokia 6810— $140

    Nokia 6820— $140

    Nokia 6822— $140

    Nokia 7200— $140

    Nokia 7210— $140

    Nokia 7250— $140

    Nokia 7250i— $140

    Nokia 7260— $140

    Nokia 7270— $140

    Nokia 7280— $140

    Nokia 7360— $140

    Nokia 7370— $140

    Nokia 7380— $140

    Nokia 7600— $140

    Nokia 7610— $140

    Nokia 770— $140

    Nokia 7710— $150

    Nokia 8310— $150

    Nokia 8800— $150

    Nokia 8910— $150

    Nokia 8910— $160

    Nokia 9210— $170

    Nokia 9210i— $170

    Nokia 9300 — $170

    Nokia 9300i— $170

    Nokia 9500 — $170

    Nokia E50— $180

    Nokia E60— $180

    Nokia E61— $180

    Nokia E70— $180

    Nokia N70— $180

    Nokia N71— $180

    Nokia N72— $180

    Nokia N73— $180

    Nokia N80— $190

    Nokia N90— $200

    Nokia N91— $210

    Nokia N92— $220

    Nokia N93— $230

    Nokia N95—$255

    Nokia N-Gage— $175

    Nokia N-Gage QD— $180

    Nokia 8800 Sirocco — $390

    Motorola Mobile Phones

    Motorola A1000— $200

    Motorola A780— $160

    Motorola A835— $180

    Motorola A920— $180

    Motorola A925— $180

    Motorola C350— $130

    Motorola C385— $130

    Motorola C550— $125

    Motorola C650— $130

    Motorola C975— $140

    Motorola E1000— $175

    Motorola E1070— $175

    Motorola E365— $180

    Motorola E398— $180

    Motorola E550— $180

    Motorola E770v— $180

    Motorola L2— $175

    Motorola L6— $170

    Motorola L7— $175

    Motorola MPx200— $150

    Motorola MPx220— $140

    Motorola ROKR E1— $130

    Motorola T720i— $150

    Motorola V1050— $140

    Motorola V180— $130

    Motorola V220— $100

    Motorola V3— $190

    Motorola V300— $130

    Motorola V360— $120

    Motorola V3i— $130

    Motorola V3X— $190

    Motorola V500— $145

    Motorola V525— $145

    Motorola V545— $130

    Motorola V547— $140

    Motorola V550— $140

    Motorola V6— $150

    Motorola V600— $140

    Motorola V620— $130

    Motorola V635— $130

    Motorola V80— $130

    Motorola V975— $130

    Motorola V980— $150

    Sony Ericsson Mobile Phones

    Sony Ericsson D750i— $130

    Sony Ericsson F500i— $130

    Sony Ericsson J100i— $130

    Sony Ericsson J210i— $130

    Sony Ericsson J220i— $130

    Sony Ericsson J230i— $130

    Sony Ericsson J300i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K300i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K310i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K500i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K508i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K510i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K600i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K608i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K610i— $130

    Sony Ericsson K700i— $150

    Sony Ericsson K750i— $150

    Sony Ericsson K790i— $150

    Sony Ericsson K800i— $150

    Sony Ericsson M600i— $150

    Sony Ericsson P800— $150

    Sony Ericsson P900— $160

    Sony Ericsson P910i— $157

    Sony Ericsson P990i— $180

    Sony Ericsson S700i— $150

    Sony Ericsson T230— $150

    Sony Ericsson T290i— $150

    Sony Ericsson T300— $150

    Sony Ericsson T310— $150

    Sony Ericsson T610— $150

    Sony Ericsson T630— $150

    Sony Ericsson T68i— $150

    Sony Ericsson V600i— $150

    Sony Ericsson V630i— $150

    Sony Ericsson V800— $150

    Sony Ericsson W300i— $150

    Sony Ericsson W550i— $150

    Sony Ericsson W700i— $150

    Sony Ericsson W800i— $150

    Sony Ericsson W810i— $150

    Sony Ericsson W850i— $180

    Sony Ericsson W900i— $180

    Sony Ericsson W950i— $190

    Sony Ericsson Z200— $170

    Sony Ericsson Z300i— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z520i— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z530i— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z550i— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z600— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z710i— $165

    Sony Ericsson Z800i— $165

    SIDEKICK:

    SIDEKICK III $130

    SIDEKICK II $115

    JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK I $100

    SIDEKICK II MISTER CARTOON–$130

    JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK II $130

    PLASTATIONS:

    GARMIN 396–$150

    Playstation 1 — $120

    Playstation 2 — $130

    Playstation 3 — $420

    Sony PSP Value Pack–$105

    Nintendo Wii — $195

    XBOX GAMES:

    Xbox 360 Core System $163

    Xbox 360 Prenium pack –$190

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console $155

    Intec G8600 Xbox 360 9.2 TFT Screen–$85

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    NEXTEL i90c $95

    NEXTEL i95cl $130

    NEXTEL i30sx $55

    NEXTEL i88s $70

    NEXTEL i35s $30

    NEXTEL i58sr $75

    NEXTEL i2000 $60

    NEXTEL i830 $120

    NEXTEL i860 $130

    NEXTEL i930 $110

    NEXTEL i860 $100

    NEXTEL 1930 $120

    NEXTEL i870 $140

    NEXTEL i450 $90

    NEXTEL 1860 $110

    02 PHONES:

    O2 X2i–$120

    02 X4 $130

    02 X3 $120

    02 x7 $140

    02 xDA Exec–$280

    02 XDA Atom–$260

    02 XDA NEO $265

    02 XDA IIi $180

    02 XDA IIs $185

    02 XDA mini S $270

    02 XDA II mini–$200

    Samsung Mobile Phones

    Samsung A300— $120

    Samsung A800— $120

    Samsung C100— $120

    Samsung C120— $120

    Samsung D410— $120

    Samsung D500— $120

    Samsung D520— $120

    Samsung D600– $170

    Samsung D800– $170

    Samsung D820— $150

    Samsung D830— $120

    Samsung D900— $120

    Samsung E300— $120

    Samsung E310— $120

    Samsung E330— $120

    Samsung E330N— $120

    Samsung E350— $120

    Samsung E370— $135

    Samsung E400— $135

    Samsung E530— $135

    Samsung E600— $135

    Samsung E630— $135

    Samsung E700— $135

    Samsung E710— $135

    Samsung E720— $135

    Samsung E760— $135

    Samsung E770— $135

    Samsung E800— $135

    Samsung E810— $135

    Samsung E820— $135

    Samsung E870— $135

    Samsung E900— $135

    Samsung i300— $135

    Samsung N500— $135

    Samsung N620— $150

    Samsung P300— $150

    Samsung P400— $150

    Samsung P510— $150

    Samsung S300— $150

    Samsung S400i— $150

    Samsung S500i— $150

    Samsung Serene— $150

    Samsung T100— $150

    Samsung V200— $150

    Samsung X450— $150

    Samsung X460— $150

    Samsung X480— $150

    Samsung X600— $150

    Samsung X640— $150

    Samsung X660— $150

    Samsung X820— $150

    Samsung Z107V— $150

    Samsung Z130— $150

    Samsung Z140— $150

    Samsung Z300— $150

    Samsung Z320i— $150

    Samsung Z400— $150

    Samsung Z500— $150

    Samsung Z510— $150

    Samsung ZM60— $150

    Sagem Mobile Phones

    Sagem MY100X— $130

    Sagem MY201X— $130

    Sagem MY300X— $130

    Sagem MY400X— $130

    Sagem MY405X— $140

    Sagem MY501X— $140

    Sagem MY700X— $140

    Sagem MYC-1— $140

    Sagem MYC2-3— $140

    Sagem MYC-3— $140

    Sagem MYC3-2— $140

    Sagem MYC4-2— $140

    Sagem MYC5-2— $140

    Sagem MYS-7— $140

    Sagem MYV-55— $140

    Sagem MYX1-2— $150

    Sagem MYX-2— $150

    Sagem MYX2-2— $150

    Sagem MYX-3— $150

    Sagem MYX3-2— $150

    Sagem MYX-4— $150

    Sagem MYX5-2— $150

    Sagem MYX-6— $150

    Sagem MYX6-2— $150

    Sagem MYX-7— $150

    Sagem MYX-8— $150

    Sagem MYZ-5— $150

    Sagem MYZ-55— $150

    Siemens Mobile Phones

    Siemens AL21— $130

    Siemens C62— $130

    Siemens C65— $130

    Siemens C75— $130

    Siemens CF110— $130

    Siemens CF75— $130

    Siemens CFX65— $130

    Siemens CL75— $130

    Siemens CX65— $130

    Siemens CX75— $130

    Siemens M55— $130

    Siemens M65— $130

    Siemens M75— $130

    Siemens MC60— $130

    Siemens ME75— $130

    Siemens S65— $130

    Siemens S75— $130

    Siemens SF65— $130

    Siemens SFG75— $130

    Siemens SK65— $130

    Siemens SL55— $130

    Siemens SL65— $130

    Siemens SL75— $130

    Siemens SP65— $130

    Siemens SX1— $130

    Siemens SXG75— $130

    BenQ-Siemens Mobile Phones

    BenQ-Siemens C81— $100

    BenQ-Siemens CF61— $100

    BenQ-Siemens CL71— $100

    BenQ-Siemens E61— $100

    BenQ-Siemens E71—$110

    BenQ-Siemens E81— $120

    BenQ-Siemens EF81— $130

    BenQ-Siemens EF91— $130

    BenQ-Siemens EL71— $140

    BenQ-Siemens M81— $140

    BenQ-Siemens P51— $150

    BenQ-Siemens Q-fi EF51— $150

    BenQ-Siemens S68— $145

    BenQ-Siemens S81— $160

    BenQ-Siemens S88— $130

    BenQ-Siemens SL91— $120

    LG Mobile Phones

    LG 7050— $130

    LG 7100— $130

    LG B2050— $130

    LG C1200— $130

    LG C3300— $130

    LG Chocolate KG800— $130

    LG F2250— $130

    LG F2400— $130

    LG KG220— $130

    LG KG225— $130

    LG KG920— $130

    LG L343i— $130

    LG L5100— $130

    LG P7200— $130

    LG S5200— $130

    LG U300— $130

    LG U400— $130

    LG U8110— $130

    LG U8120— $130

    LG U8130— $130

    LG U8138— $130

    LG U8150— $130

    LG U8290— $130

    LG U8330— $130

    LG U8360v— $130

    LG U8380— $130

    LG U880— $130

    LG U890— $130

    NEC Mobile Phones

    NEC 343i— $120

    NEC e101— $120

    NEC e122— $120

    NEC e228— $120

    NEC e313— $120

    NEC e338— $130

    NEC e606— $130

    NEC e616— $130

    NEC e808Y— $130

    NEC N223i— $140

    NEC N22i— $140

    NEC N341i— $130

    NEC N343i— $130

    NEC N400i— $130

    NEC N401i— $130

    NEC N410i— $130

    NEC N411i— $130

    NEC N412i— $160

    Orange Mobile Phones

    Orange SPV C500— $130

    Orange SPV C550— $130

    Orange SPV C600— $130

    Orange SPV M1500— $130

    Orange SPV M2000— $130

    Orange SPV M3100— $130

    Orange SPV M500— $130

    Orange SPV M5000— $130

    Orange SPV M600— $130

    Panasonic Mobile Phones

    Panasonic GD55— $130

    Panasonic GD67— $130

    Panasonic GD87— $130

    Panasonic VS2— $130

    Panasonic VS3— $130

    Panasonic VS6— $130

    Panasonic X500— $130

    Panasonic X70— $130

    IPODS:

    Apple iPod 30GB (Video) New!—US$105.95

    Apple iPod 60GB (Video) New!—US$125.95

    Apple iPod Nano 2GB New!—US$85.95

    Apple iPod Nano 4GB New!—US$90.95

    Apple iPod Shuffle 512 MB—68.95

    Apple iPod Shuffle 1 GB—US$80.95

    Apple iPod Mini 4 GB—US$85.95

    Apple iPod Mini 6 GB—US$100.95

    Apple iPod Photo 30 GB—US$115.95

    Apple iPod U2 SE 20 GB—US$125.95

    Apple iPod Photo 60 GB—US$135.95

    Apple iPod 20 GB—US$100.95

    Apple ipod 80 GB (Video) — $175

    PLASMA TV:

    Panasonic TH-42PD50U TH42PD50U 42” Plasma TV 852 x 480 $550

    HP PL4245N 42” HDTV-Ready Plasma TV $620

    Samsung SPR4232 42” Flat Panel EDTV Plasma TV $510

    Samsung HPR4252 42” High Definition Plasma TV $510

    Samsung PPM42S 42” Inch HDTV Black Plasma TV $530

    Panasonic TH-42PX50U/P TH42PX50U/P 42” Viera Plasma TV $520

    Samsung HP-R5052 50” Plasma TV $610

    Samsung SPN-4235 Flat Panel 42-inch Plasma TV $440

    SVA 42” Plasma TV (852×480; 16) 550:1, 480i/480p/720p $510

    Hitachi CMP-420V2 42 inch EDTV Plasma TV in Silver $450

    Panasonic TH-50PX50U 50” High Definition Plasma TV $510

    Philips – 50PF7320A – Philips 50” HDTV Ready Wide SCRN $510

    Optoma PD50 50-Inch 1366 x 768 3000:1 Contrast $500

    Panasonic TH-42PX500U 42″” HDTV Plasma TV $700

    Toshiba 42HP95 42″w Integrated HD Plasma TV $700

    Sharp PZ-43HV2U 43” High Definition Plasma TV $1,200

    Gateway 42” Plasma TV 16 : 9 Aspect Ratio $655

    Samsung HPR5052 50 High Definition Plasma TV $1,100

    Vizio P42HDe 42” 1024 x 768 5000:1 Contrast $655

    Samsung SPP4251 42” Plasma TV 16 852×480 Resolution $655

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    LAPTOPS SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME—$900

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO—-$930

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP-$900

    SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP—$950

    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP-$1000

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP$950

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– M40 HWM 745–$500

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.3GHZ COMBO WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY-$700

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–P20-801—-$500

    APPLE GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZX5275EA—-$800

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK215S–$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZT3350EA—-$800

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X15PLUS HZM–$800

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ COMBO WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY$550

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP–PCGK215M—$800

    SONY VAIO DESKTOP–RS504–$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZX5030-$800

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–M30-106—$800

    HP MEDIA CENTER DESKTOP COMPUTER– M1080 PHOTOSMART—$800

    APPLE IBOOK 1.2GHZ COMBO WITH 14.1 INCH DISPLAY—-$800

    APPLE GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR—-$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZV5230EA—$600

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– P28 LTC 330—$600

    SONY VAIO DESKTOP–V1–$600

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–A40-231—$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZV5169EA—$800

    APPLE GHZ COMBO DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 17 INCH MONITOR-$600

    APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 14 INCH DISPLAY$600

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–A40-892—$650

    APPLE IBOOK 1GHZ COMBO WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY—-$600

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZV5213EA—$600

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP$900

    SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP$950

    SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP$950

    SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM–XP–$950

    SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XPPRO—$800

    SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XPPRO$900

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP–VGN-A117S—-$900

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP–VGN-S1XP-$800

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—-$830

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY–$950

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—$900

    APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY–$900

    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.5GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—-$700

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–P20-102-$900

    APPLE 5GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR-$900

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–P10-803—-$900

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—-$850

    ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP PACK WIFIVERSION-$950

    OQO MODEL 01 ULTRA PERSONAL COMPUTER (XPPRO)—-$950

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO A60 40GB– C2.8GHZ– 15INCH–DVD/CDR—-$950

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ(BLACK)—-$950

    FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK P7010 60GB– P4 1.1GHZ–10.6INCH– DVD/CDRW —$900

    ASUS A4744K-LH AMD64 POWER WORKSTATION LAPTOP—$950

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    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ(YELLOW)–$900

    TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB– PM 1.5GHZ– 14INCH– WIFI–DVD-CDRW—-$900

    FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ(SILVER)—$900

    TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB– 512MB– XP PRO—$900

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    APPLE G5 POWERMAC 1.8GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—-$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZD7145EA$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP–ZD7255EA$800

    APPLE CINEMA HD 23-INCH TFT LCD MONITOR-$800

    SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK21 5Z—$800

    SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X30 LWC 1500–$800

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    SONY VAIO PCVW2 DESKTOP–$800

    HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART—-$800

    TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP–M30-832—$800

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    SONY-ERICSSON K600 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON D750 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON K750i 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON W800 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON K750 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON J300 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON K600 150$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z800 150$

    SONY-ERICSSON K300 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON J200 120$

    SONY-ERICSSON T290 150$

    SONY-ERICSSON V800 140$

    SONY-ERICSSON P910 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON S710 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON K500 110$

    SONY-ERICSSON F500i 90$

    SONY-ERICSSON S700 140$

    SONY-ERICSSON K700 120$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z500 140$

    SONY-ERICSSON T630 80$

    SONY-ERICSSON P900 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON P910i 170$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z600 150$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z200 90$

    SONY-ERICSSON T230 50$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z1010 120$

    SONY-ERICSSON T610 50$

    SONY-ERICSSON P800 90$

    SONY-ERICSSON Z700 90$

    SAMSUNG

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    SAMSUNG P860 170$

    SAMSUNG P850 170$

    SAMSUNG E730 170$

    SAMSUNG D510 170$

    SAMSUNG Z700 140$

    SAMSUNG D720 170$

    SAMSUNG Z130 100$

    SAMSUNG Z500 100$

    SAMSUNG Z300 100$

    SAMSUNG E350 170$

    SAMSUNG E720 170$

    SAMSUNG B100 170$

    SAMSUNG X640 170$

    SAMSUNG X480 150$

    SAMSUNG X460 150$

    SAMSUNG P730 150$

    SAMSUNG P710 120$

    SAMSUNG E630 170$

    SAMSUNG E850 180$

    SAMSUNG X120 90$

    SAMSUNG E500 90$

    SAMSUNG E310 90$

    SAMSUNG E300 90$

    SAMSUNG Z105 90$

    SAMSUNG E610 90$

    SAMSUNG E600 70$

    SAMSUNG P510 120$

    SAMSUNG E410 150$

    SAMSUNG X450 70$

    SAMSUNG E800 170$

    SAMSUNG E810 180$

    SAMSUNG X430 50$

    SAMSUNG P705 90$

    SAMSUNG D410 95$

    SAMSUNG X600 120$

    SAMSUNG X100 60$

    SAMSUNG E715 150$

    SAMSUNG E700 100$

    SAMSUNG C100 100$

    SAMSUNG D700 170$

    SAMSUNG P500 170$

    SAMSUNG E105 60$

    SAMSUNG X410 80$

    SAMSUNG X400 7$

    SAMSUNG S200 80$

    SAMSUNG E400 50$

    SAMSUNG D500 $180

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    NEXTEL i95cl—130USD

    NEXTEL i30sx—55USD

    NEXTEL i88s—70USD

    NEXTEL i35s—30USD

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    NEXTEL i830–120USD

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    Qtek S200 ……. $180

    Qtek 9000 ……. $250

    Qtek 8310 ……. $200

    Qtek 8300 ……. $185

    Qtek 9100 ……. $270

    Qtek 8100 ……. $150

    Qtek S110 ……. $175

    Qtek S100 ……. $190

    Qtek 9090 ……. $200

    Qtek 8020 ……. $190

    Qtek 8010 ……. $140

    Qtek 2020i …… $220

    Qtek 2020 ……. $200

    Qtek 1010 ……. $140

    I-MATE

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    I-MATE JAMin ……… $240

    I-MATE JASJAR …….. $280

    I-MATE K-JAM ……… $180

    I-MATE SP5 ……… $150

    I-MATE SP5m ……… $155

    I-MATE SP4m ……… $120

    I-MATE JAM Black …….. $150

    I-MATE JAM ……… $160

    I-MATE PDA2 ……… $190

    I-MATE PDA2k ……… $168

    I-MATE SP3i ……… $130

    I-MATE SP3 ……… $135

    I-MATE Pocket PC ……… $140

    I-MATE Smartphone2 …….. $110

    I-MATE Smartphone …….. $115

    Treo

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    Treo 600……………$150usd

    Treo 650……………$160usd

    SIDEKICK

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    SIDEKICK II—$100USD

    SIDEKICK II MISTER CARTOON…… $130

    JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK II …..$130

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    02 XDA Atom …….. $260

    02 XDA NEO …….. $265

    02 XDA mini S ……. $270

    02 XDA II mini …… $200

    02 XDA IIi ……… $180

    02 XDA IIs ……… $185

    O2 X2i ……… $120

    02 X4 ……… $130

    02 X3 ……… $120

    02 x7 ……… $140

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    Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB ……………….. $100

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB ……………….. $150

    Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB ……………….. $200

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD

    Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD

    Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD

    Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD

    Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD

    Apple 30 GB iPod Video……………….110 USD

    Apple 60 GB iPod Video……………….150 USD

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    Xbox 360 Prenium pack—US$190

    Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console—US$155.00

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    playstation 2…130usd

    playstation 3 …200usd

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    SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP-$300

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$250

    SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$400

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    SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP$350

    SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$450

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    Dell Latitude D500 $200

    Dell Inspiron 6000 $350

    Dell Latitude D505 $340

    Dell Latitude D610 $460

    Dell Latitude D510 $320

    Dell Inspiron 9300 $530

    Toshiba Satellite PRO L10 $320

    Toshiba M200 $500

    Toshiba R100 $450

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    Toshiba M100 $680

    Toshiba M300 $740

    Toshiba Portege A200 $320

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