Earlier today I touched very briefly on the left’s growing “Cheney was drunk!” meme—mostly as a way to distinguish their breathless, relentless, almost swarming interest in what was an unfortunate hunting accident (at a press conference today, spokesmen for the hospital housing Mr Whittington noted that the 78-year-old wanted to know what all the fuss was about) with their notable lack of interest in reports that ABC’s Nightline will be airing part of the so-called “Saddam recordings,” which suggest that Hussein believed Iraq had chemical and biological weapons capabilities.
But (and here’s the crazy part) it turns out some of these people were actually serious about the charges (as Mark Coffey continues to document), and the list just keeps growing—from Alan Dershowitz and RJ Eskow to The Raw Story , MSNBC, and the Nation.
In fact, MSNBC pundit and West Wing producer/writer Lawrence O’Donnell (who seems to be the genesis of this original floated “question”)â€â€along with lefty firebrand Jane Hamsherâ€â€continue to push this meme with so much heat (a great exchange between O’Donnell and Hugh Hewitt can be found here) that one begins to fear they might spontaneously combust, or at the very least, singe a tuft of Harry Shearer’s ear hair.
O’Donnell even went so far as to say, on Hewitt’s radio program, that the secret service and Karl Rove (along with Ms Armstrong, and presumably Mr Whittington himself?) are also complicit in what is “likely” a major cover-up. His proof? Well, it just makes sense to him.
That it never occurred to any of the people engaging in such wild, reckless, and unsubstantiated rumor-mongering that the secret service would be quite loathe to allow inebriated frat boys to go wandering around through tall grass with loaded weapons looking to blast shit â€â€particularly when the man next in-line to the presidency is one of those in the party—simply strains credulity. Sure, they don’t have the authority to tell the VP to put down the bottle of Mescal. But c’mon: these aren’t oral dalliances with starry-eyed interns the agents are being asked to overlook, after all—and besides, such recklessness would put their lives in danger as well.
Christ. It’s a wonder President Bartlett made it through a single term alive being forced to wander around in O’Donnell’s feverish DC fantasy world…
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update: in the comments, FA reminds us that Cheney is likely on heart medication, which would make even more dubious the prospect of his getting liquored up to shoot birds.
To that end, Lime Shurbet did some medical speculating, in fact.
I doubt the secret service has the authority or initiative to tell the VP not to drink beer. So I don’t agree with that.
That being said, yeah, Lawrence O’Donnell et al are engaging in reidiculous speculation.
“ridiculous” even.
I suspect that even if the Secret Service does not have the authority or initiative to tell the VP not to drink beer, that they most certainly have the authority, and would take the initiative to ensure that neither the VP or the people in his vicinity, would be handling loaded weapons under the influence.
O’Donnell is an ass. He seems proud that he was the one to dare ask this question. However actass and the rest of the moonbats have been flining this monkey shit out of their cages since Sunday.
Bill, I guess you’ve never had a trusted subordinate look you straight in the eye, and say in a firm voice, “Sir, I strongly suggest that you reconsider your present course of action. I won’t be able to help you if you don’t.”
Authority is not always needed to give orders. Just tact and credibility.
The Secret Service can pretty much do anything it wants in the name of protecting one of its charges…even from his own choices. Remember when GWB didn’t go directly back to DC after 9/11? I suspect that was a Secret Service decision.
Cheney is on heart medication, IIRC. It seems doubtful he would have much to drink under normal circumstances, and especially doubtful given that he was a highly experienced hunter.
Guys only get smashed and take potshots at one another in the movies–the kinds of movies Lawrence O’Donnell likes, such as Deliverance. Ned Beatty is his kind of guy.
but…it seems like that idiocy is infectious.
i blame biomemes.
Bill INDC, you must have replied to an unfermented version of Jeff’s post, since the version I’m seeing includes:
And that appears before the brilliant dalliances line that your quote includes without even a hint of the ever abused …’s. (yea, I used the …’s because I can’t spell that “e” word)
Ditto.<a href=”http://karlmaher.blogspot.com/2006/02/mr-lucky.html” target=”_blank”>
If you wander over to HuffPo, you’ll see the Secret Service agents were also being asked to overlook oral dalliances with starry-eyed 50-somethings.
I’m calling this phenomenon scandal creep. If one outlandish allegation starts ‘just making sense’…you start pushing the next, more outlandish one.
Listening to ABC’s presentation of the Saddam tapes just now, I noticed that ABC did not put the bits of conversation in any chronological context.
But what IS clear is that Iraq believed it was fooling inspectors, and would continue to be able to do so. So the oft-hard charge that “inspections were working” in unconvincing—or rather, it was unconvincing to Saddam and co.
The rest of the tapes will be made public soon. What I am interested in listening for is the most recent material, which I think needs to be juxtaposed with the claims of two former Iraqi commanders who insist WMD stockpiles were moved to Syria.
I have no doubt Stephen Hayes will be on that, too.
Jeff–
ABC wants to have a scoop while at the same time downplaying the WMD angle. I’m guessing there’s lots more stuff where these tapes came from, given the predilection of every authoritarian regime to keep meticulous records–one more reason to believe he didn’t comply with USCR 1441.
I sure Steve Hayes doesn’t get hit by a bus.
I sure…hope…damnit–as in “Man from…”
I visited there once. Godawful place.
I heard Hewitt’s interview with O’Donnell this evening, and Larry takes great (and weaselly) pains to say that he never actually claimed Cheney was drunk, instead saying that it was “a likelihood.”
Note as well that O’Donnell palmed off the accusation on “every lawyer that I’ve talked to”. But of course he wouldn’t name a single one when Hewitt grilled him.
Can you say, creepy liar? Sure you can.
Vice President Cheney told Fox news he had been drinking that day. Not such a crazy idea after all.
Frankly, if the President can’t control Cheney, what makes you think the Secret Service can?
The man is an arrogant loose canon. And I voted for him. Twice. I completely regret those votes.
This notion of scandal creep is fascinating. The number of times you can see the “Big Lie” (alal Goering) principle unfold in real time are few and far between. Very much a testament to the whole notion of controlling the subtext of the debate.
Uh, well, what he said was, he had a beer with lunch. The shooting happened at dusk. Not sure a man of Mr Cheney’s body weight would be holding on to the effects of a beer that long.
And what if it was an Amstel Light? Hell, the buzz is gone before the salad is served.
Beyond that, though, I wonder how much it’s costing old arrogant Dick to buy old man Whittington’s silence…? One gazillion? Two? Three?
Well, hmmm, if he’s anything, he’s a loose shotgun, but let that stand. I don’t know that Cheney’s arrogrant. I don’t know that he’s “loose,” or frankly, just about anything except that he’s very widely respected, feared, and valued by the president. I don’t see what else a vice president should be. He’s one of the most powerful vice presidents we’ve ever had in this country.
I certainly don’t regret voting for him, especially given that the alternatives were Joe “Sellout” Lieberman and John “Two Americas” Edwards. Then there was that little matter of the tops of the tickets…
But moreover, I don’t have the slightest idea what peppering some guy on a quail shoot has to do with an assessment of his overall character. You may be able to put in a few brushtrokes, but this man has been in public life for 40 years. Until George Bush became Hitler II, Dick Cheney was known in Washington as Mr. Cool, the man who stays calm under pressure. He was also known as Mr. Integrity, and for good reason. This silly little event does nothing to change these perceptions in any meaningful way.
Sure you did Moby, sure you did.
TW: federal, as in why these crazy dems making a federal case of this.
OT: picked up the original Bad News Bears on dvd at Target yesterday—in the $5 section no less—in your honor Jeff.
So now we can add the idea that he can’t even keep Cheney from having a beer at lunch (one of the duties of his office, of course) to the Hitler comparisons and “worst economy since Herbert Hoover” charge. I gots to tell ya, Moby, I voted for him too, but now I’m sold!
IMPEACH BUSH!
Who was it that said the Dhimmycrats, in conjunction with the Royal AmeriKan Press corps, could turn every bicicyle accident into the end of the world. There are at least five reasons they want to keep this bullshit non-issue going…
– The Royalty press got scooped by a “menial” little Corpus Christi nobody local newspaper. Cheney butt fucked them once again.
– By releasing the news of the accident through the Ranch owner in such a non-big deal way, The Royals and Sunday talking head shows were robbed of the chance to spin the early incomplete story line. So now they’re forced to just wild speculation and obvious feckless nattering.
– Diverting attention away from the “Hackett/internal intercene Dem turf wars”
– Drawing attention away from Mohammud al-Gore, and his unguided missle mouth.
– Damping down Bush’s post SOTU speaking tour.
The cost isn’t really that great since middle America already hates the press corps anyway and thinks they’re a bunch of Democrat biased, snobbish, arrogant children, which never the less is bad for the Dems because email is running over 95% in support of the VP.
Is it possible, aside from the political tactics they think they’re engaged in, what we’re seeing is a form of mass hysteria on the part of the left? Everytime you think they’ve sunk as low as you can go in terms of vituperative babbling, they manage to ratchet up one more notch. If nothing else this generation of Liberals is raising the bar for idiocy. All you had to do was watch McCauliffe on FOX today, where his feral angst was at such a fevor pitch he couldn’t get the wrongly stated talking points out fast enough, and when corrected he was so unimformed he responded in a way that said he had no idea about even the most basic facts of the story. It must be hell to be a Liberal these days.
Yep, it’s about focus – the ABC piece is just the tip of an iceberg of things about the war background that the Dems probably would rather talk about Brittney’s carseat habits than explore in any meaningful fashion. Dig, Stepehn Hayes..DIG!
It also serves as an alternate topic to keep everyone from noticing what a bunch of jackasses they make of themselves on a daily basis on the Hill – while their spin troops were out questioning the lite beer/time/body mass equations yesterday, two of their finest, Kerry and Boxer, were busy ranting like characters from One Flew over the Cuckoo’s nest at Condi.
Not that the beltway employees of the MSM would notice – being in the midst of a tantrum about not being called even before Whittington’s family was notified, so they could breathlessly plaster every incomplete update from the first couple of hours while filling in the gaps with self gratifying noises closely resembling English.
Branson finsihed his spaceships yet? I wanna move to the damned moon.
Hey, if that was a DANISH beer, how many Pakis will be killed in the ensuing riots?
“I went to the White House shortly after tea where I found ‘the original gorilla,’ about as intelligent as ever. What a specimen to be at the head of our affairs now!”—General George McClellan writing his wife about Abraham Lincoln.
Isn’t it intriguing that Bush haters refer to him as “Chimpy?” Is history repeating itself? Are the Left our modern Copperheads?
Wind Rider—Thanks for reminding me to buy more Danish products.
Yes, it was. That was stated repeatedly at the time, but it didn’t fit the narrative the Democrats and the press wanted to tell, so it was ignored.
Here’s the rational analysis: the idea that Cheney would get rip-roaring drunk enough to stumble through the woods and require/get that kind of parenting from the secret service agent is preposterous.
That said, so is the idea that a secret service agent would say something like that to the VP while the guy caught a 2-3-4 beer buzz, enough to carelessly shoot someone.
Personally, I think all of this is ridiculous, I just don’t think that opining about what the “secret service would do” is that strong a line of defense/attack. Shrug. The VP has a lot of latitude to do whatever the fuck he wants, despite stern, tactful admonitions from his secret service agents.
That’ll teach me to sleep. I kept rolling over the conspiracy theories in my head – especially the twin “the shooting was purposeful and intended to divert the headlines” and “the shooting was a happy accident that Bushco seized on it to divert the headlines” – and a third one came to mind: “the press corps is totally manufacturing its outrage, and will keep doing so through at least 2/17, to divert attention from the Saddam tapes.”
However, since I’m not conspiracy-minded, and since that particular one would require a degree of coordination by the press that I’m loathe to stipulate, I’ll just go with Cheney’s comments concerning press ego.
Who was it on the previous thread who brought up the Secret Service’s overlooking Lewinsky in the Oval Office? (Probably actus, I’m guessing?) HUGE difference in the scenarios, no? Getting into the White House requires passing through security checkpoints designed not so much to determine your right to be or reason for being there, though you need both to get through, but the danger you pose to the POTUS. Lewinsky posed no physical danger and had at least a pretext for being there. (And if rumors are to be believed and the generalized behavior of powerful men is any guide, I’d speculate that she wasn’t the first nubile chick to, ahh, penetrate the White House’s physical defenses.) Contrast with this situation.
Bill from INDC: I disagree. While the Secret Service might not consider it appropriate to slap the beer from Cheney’s hand or even to whisper a discreet, “Sir, enough already,” they certainly would be able to keep everyone else in the party sober and clear of Cheney’s putative armed drunken stumbles. These are the guys whose job description includes “Jump in front of the person you’re guarding to take the bullet intended for him” – you think they’re going to balk at jumping in front of somebody’s Shiner Bock?
Speculation – sure; but reasonable, ISTM, considering what we do know about the duties and default character of members of the Secret Service.
The whole episode is just a small part of the Overall Grand Scheme (OGS) – Dick Cheney gets to go home early and C. Rice steps in to cover the last couple years of the VP’s term.
She gets two years+ of incumbency and a chance to hone her political skills before 2008. Can you imagine a Rice – McCain ticket? Seems like they would have to be favored over any duo the Dems could trot out, especially since NcCain is about as palatable to Dems as ANY Republican could be.
Cheney resigning / Rice ascending would give the Republicans the kind of advantage the Dems COULD have had if Clinton had resigned and let Gore take over – the HUGE advantage of being an incumbent.
Not suggesting that this shooting of poor Harry was in any way intentional – just saying that the WH was just waiting for something to occur that would be the catalyst for this transition….they probably figured that, with the open hostility and “baying hounds” mentality displayed by the Washington press folks, sooner or later there would be SOMETHING that would tip things towards this end…maybe more heart trouble for Cheney, maybe some unrelated-to-politics event (such as this accidental shooting)…
I believe that Secret Service agents are actually Federal Police and they do in fact have the authority to stop the V.P. from comitting a crime. I remember recently a conspiracy theory popping up in the passing of the Patriot Act whereby the theorist singled out language in the law that referred to the Secret Service by their legal definition and mistook it to be authorizing the creation of a new Federal Police force with extraordinary powers. More than this, they definitely have the power to arrest, even the President, if they witness a crime. If Cheney shot a guy while under the influence they would have to arrest him. Unless you’re asserting some grand conspiracy here and in that case…take your meds and get some bed rest.
Also, the Ambassador to (?)Switzerland that Cheney is supposedly banging? Her husband was on the hunting trip with her. Fine job of research on the part of Arianna’s Loons. These people are just sick.
That’s a good point, up until the VP and his guests start picking up firearms.
I doubt the Secret Service agent is just going to stand back and *hope* that the VP doesn’t plug a guest, the agent, or himself. At a minimum, the agent would contact the Agent-in-Charge and have his boss deal with Beer-Befuzzled Veep with a Shotgun situation.
Not to mention that the Veep is travelling with medical staff, including, iirc, an MD. That makes it less a likelihood that the VP and friends were boozing it up before going out to kill some birds.
Though, after reading Lime’s information, O’Donnell might have been better off saying “Did the VP’s medications affect his judgement?” rather than going the Foster Brooks route.
Still, with the delay of the news, I can’t help but feel robbed of the excitement of seeing Shepard Smith stand at the edge of that Texas ranch, lip quivering, steely-eyed:
“I – hold – in – my – hand………
a small section of Harry Whittington’s eyelid.”
“When will help come?!?!”
“My God!! They’re shooting at the ambulance driver!!!”
Oh well, maybe the next hunting accident.
Hey, I have a question: how soon are you supposed to report having sex with an intern?
Oh, and I thought Cheney handled the interview pretty well up until the “stuffing and mounting” comments.
It is widely known that Bill Clinton drops his ball in front of a yellow hazard, when you must take your drop from behind the yellow stakes, even if your ball landed on the other side of the yellow hazard and rolled back in.
An accidental infraction? Maybe. What was David Gregory told about these clear violations?
Nothing. NOTHING!!!!
I can buy, maybe, the notion that the Secret Service doesn’t necessarily monitor the alcohol intake of its charges.
What I can’t buy is the notion that the Secret Service doesn’t very carefully assess the potential threats posed by loaded firearms in close proximity to the Vice President!
Of course, it’s all a moot point, since the Secret Service (aka “Cheney’s SS”) were fully complicit in Cheney’s plot to murder a bunch of rich Texans who were about to spill The Truth About Halliburton and bring down the McHitlerburton administration once and for all….
Along the hyberbolic lines of “Cheney Shoots Friend in Face!’ , be thankful that Dick Cheney didn’t have a healthy lunch which included lima beans for their roughage and a glass of Italian red for its heart-healthy benefits.
Larry O’Donnell, Arianna, dKos, WaPo headline?
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Backwoods Johnny’s first and last day as a salesman at Brooks Brothers in Washington, DC—“Well, howdy doody, Mr. Gregory, I –”
But still, having the Secret Service present when a man jumps in front of a shot fired by the Vice President………
Isn’t that like one of the 13 signs of the Apocolypse or something?
It’s got to at least tear a hole in the space time continuum.
A blowjob is not sex, unless your wife just found out about you getting an extramarital one, in which case it definitely is. Unless you’re the Clintons, in which case we have absolutely no idea what THAT’s all about.
Still, there’s some possible comparisons to be made, there. Did Dick Gregory ask endless, insistent, repetetive questions of Clinton’s press secretary about how long it took him to come, did Monica swallow or spit it into a hanky, etc?
The pharmacokinetics of alcohol are well-described; medical students get this info their very first year. If Cheney had one beer at lunchtime, I guarantee it was fully metabolized and gone by dusk.
Cheney had one beer at lunch, presumably with a regular-sized meal. I’ll postulate that he’s not much of a tofu-and-salad guy, so his lunch was probably a burger or sandwich… something with some carbohydrate.
Metabolism of alcohol begins immediately, starting with gastric enzymes. In an individual with a full stomach, gastric-first-pass metabolism will come into play (this is metabolism within the stomach by Alcohol Dehydrogenase, before it enters the bloodstream). The longer alcohol stays in the stomach, the more breakdown (without actual absorption) can take place. If you ingest one beer, and compare empty/full stomachs, you find that the peak plasma concentration of alcohol is cut significantly (50+%) by a meal. Carbohydrate-heavy meals will increase this effect.
Once in the bloodstream, alcohol is generally eliminated by the liver at a roughly one-drink-per-hour rate (in non-alcoholics). At 4-5 hours later, even taking into account any potential slowing of metabolism by medications, I doubt you’d have found ANY detectable alcohol in Cheney’s bloodstream.
Small amount of alcohol + slowed absorption by food + enhanced gastric-first-pass metabolism + long time interval = stone-cold sober when the accident happened.
Honestly, this non-issue has made me angry at democrats for the first time in a year. I cannot figure out why democrats can seemingly make up anything they want and float it as a “theory” with absolutely no consequences.
I feel very sure that if a conservative pundit floated the “theory” that HIllary Clinton is a committed dike, the msm would be hollaring “slander” and “treason”
i’m sick of this.
can we talk about something else, please?
Matt, to be fair, Vince Foster theories were floating around and are still being floated.
Democrats haven’t exactly cornered the market on idiocy. Everybody wants some.
Matt, Esq.  As a Democrat, let me just say how offended I am at the very notion that Hillary is committed to anything.
Nishizono-chan, I’m with you.
Jeff, where are youuuuu? I need a new thread! (You have a two-year-old; you ought to be used to unreasonable demands from dependents…)
For those just joining us…
–Vice President Cheney has apparently shot a 78-year-old man in the face while swigging on a bottle of Jim Beam.
–The White House press corps, yes, the same press corps that gets flown around the world on a companion plane to Air Force One complete with baggage handlers, ground transportation, and plush hotels–is…upset…that it is mistreated by being “out of the loop.”
–Somewhere deep in the heart of Chimpyland, Karl Rove chuckles softly and moves a knight to queen 3.
–And who let all those rich Republicans have guns?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
“CNN Slams Cheney For Going to Fox”
http://www.drudgereport.com/
God forbid he should go to the cable channel that has twice as many viewers as all the other combined. This just gets funnier and funnier.
I thought Brit did a pretty good job, up until the “As the Vice-President, isn’t it your right to shoot whoever you want, and keep their head as a trophy?” question.
They ran that “Brokeback” ad again, eh?
– Forget it Jamie… Goldstein is off doing unspeakable things with his rimless glasses…
Keep in mind too, that is was one of the posters at Puffington Host (Whtiman?), who relayed a first hand account of African-Americans, after just 2 days, forced to cannibalize in New Orleans.
The National Enquirer of the Blog-o-sphere.
He said he had a beer (or was it two). The man does have dubious judgement
Slarti: The main difference was that Clinton-era conspiracy theories were restricted to the American Spectator, paranoid newsletters produced by tinfoil-helmeted loons on compounds in Idaho, and the occasional silly email forwarded by misguided office workers.
Nowadays, conspiracy theories are peddled by most of the media, not to mention the head of the DLC.
How many people watched Waco: The Rules of Engagement back in 1997? How many watched Fahrenheit 9/11 in 2004? Paranoia has been mainstreamed. I blame the X-Files.
Dang it. So… any thoughts on the opening of the baseball season? Or… recipes? Since Jeff flatly ignored my last request for same?
(What kind of host is he, anyway, not to respond to perfectly civil requests from a devoted reader that only require him to drop whatever he’s doing and write some hundred-word sentences for my edification and entertainment? Sheesh.)
Oh, hey, actus is here! Hi, actus. You must be quite a lightweight.
TW: channeling my inner child
– At least you have an inner child. Mine looks more like a used car salesman in a leisure suit and a panama hat, scarfing down viagra like candy, and hitting on the 20 year old secretary that thinks hes old enough to be her grandfather and smells funny.
I just read the headline at FireDog lady “Wingnuts Put Up or Shut Up”
Can someone tell me the technical medical term for people who really believe the blog-o-sphere is an elementary school playground?
Also, the term for readers who believe they are getting somewhere with these silly delusions?
I don’t know if Cheney was drunk or not. I do know that alchohol and hunting tend to go together.
At least they did in the late 1950s when I went on my first (and only) hunting trip. I doubt if things have changed much since then.
Shotguns and beer; what a great combination. Even better when you add in a heart condition on the part of the hunter.
Small wonder the VP’s staff waited so many hours before releasing the fact that the VP had shot someone.
Don’t they sell guns and ammo at likker stores in Texas?
Carl W. Goss,
So you went hunting once fifty years ago and got hammered.
From that you conclude that hunters tend to drink.
Brilliant.
And well you should. And well you should….
Its my inner fratboy.
I will admit to not knowing much about heart medication and how much is too much to drink with that.
Dammit!!
I’m a 40 year old heart patient, so I know from whence I speak – Actus, you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, so STFU!!
My cardiologist SUGGESTED I have a glass of wine, or a beer a day, to help keep the blood somewhat thin, and to help increase good cholesterol (HDL). Dick Cheney had one beer, then 4 hours later went hunting. This somehow pointing to Dick Cheney being exceptionally drunk when this all happened is pure speculation based on bad or no evidence whatsoever.
Because you (and your willing accomplices in the media) WANT this to be the case, don’t make it so.
Please – stick to being obtuse – you seem to be good at that. Leave cardiology to the experts – which you are not.
TV (Harry)
As much as I am inclined to agree with Bill that it’s sort of pointless to opine what the secret service would do, I have to guess that if the man appeared to be even a little drunk, they would have prevented him from picking up a loaded shotgun. Their job is to keep him alive, and a drunk man could easily shoot himself as well as others.
No, I think it was 1 or 2 beers, at lunch, 3-5 hours before the hunt. I suspect alcohol was not a factor.
actus, you should try some affirmations to overcome the self-hatred (referencing your inner fratboy plus prior comment on how you could never stand fratboys – just to bring the casual readers up to speed, at the expense of hideously overburdening a little joke that wasn’t very funny to begin with).
There are hunters and there are idiots who get drunk, go out in the woods and shoot at things (Carl Goss). I, and I bet Dick Cheney are in the former. I never got drunk while hunting, nor has anyone I hunted with. But we did keep a sharp eye out for idiots like Carl.
Those that do get drunk and shoot stuff, do it regularly. With all the microscopic anal exams made of this administration, if that were Cheney’s habit, it would be known.
So get off the drunk and careless and go back to “hardened killer with no conscience”, moonbats!
WHAT!?
INDCentBill comes up with a winner of a word like “reidiculous”?
I WANT A RECOUNT!
Damn, Bill. I’m jealous.
Once again we see that the Democrats’ main currency is no longer ideas, but rather it is slander.
’sides… everyone knows drinking lots of beer is for fishing not hunting.
Carl, I’ve been to quite a few “likker” stores in Texas, since I’ve lived here over 30 years. You definitely have to bring your own guns and ammo.
Doing so tends to get you great discounts, I should add.
– Yeh….not much chance of getting shot by a fish… although there is that small problem of falling of the boat and drowning…. but hell that only happens once in awhile….
– Brit looks kind of self conscious on FOX this morning… Sort of like the management guy that keeps winning the company picnic doorprize year after year and thinks its all a bit embarrassing… *chuckle* …He mentioned this mornings gaggle was a lot more subdued and that things look like they’re slowing down a bit on this non-issue….I’ve been kind of enjoying the effete Liberal press’s discomfort….
So the idea that drinking is incompatble with heart conditions goes down the drain. Ok.
Well I was in a frat. So I did drink a lot. But I never liked fratboys, and hate to see them running the country.
I’ll defer to Slart on this one. Damnit.
– Eleanor Clift on FOX this morning babbling about WH secrecy again… non-living proof that no matter how pickled and prune faced you are, the magicians in the FOX makeup department can still make you appear to be human….
…is impossible to square with this:
which implies a collegiate edumakation, which implies an ability to read and comprehend, unless you majored in Womyn’s studies, then you simply needed to get laid.
One beer does not equal drunkeness, not even with rufies, my child.
“(Huffington Post is) The National Enquirer of the Blog-o-sphere.”
Frankly, that’s insulting to the Enquirer, which these days actually is pretty careful in its reporting (as a result of past lawsuits.)
Actus was there, man. In the fratboy shit.
“Well I was in a frat. So I did drink a lot. But I never liked fratboys, and hate to see them running the country.”
Being the bitch of the fraternity does not qualify you as actually being a fraternity brother…..
Actus, could you please explain to me how you hating frat boys and also being one makes any sense what so ever.
In general, have you ever considered that your judgement may be flawed?
I was never in a frat; on my campus, most of them were pretentious groups that used their charter as a front for cheap booze and sex clubs in the basements, while sucking freebies for their members out of the student association. Most of the members were self-centered twits with delusion of grandeur about being genius studs with the physique of gods. Join a fraternity? Moi? NEVER!
Indeed, one of my college heros was a ex-Navy dude who hated frat rats. He swiped a jacket from a drunken frat sot at a bar one night, ripped the sleeves off, and wore it everywhere, daring the frats to take it back. One of his most memorable feats was to stand up during a lull in the noise of the halftime during a home football game, and loudly proclaim, ”I’d rather suck a dick than join a frat!” Pure gold, I tells ya.
And then I realized this was all a game between boys, not men. An older version of throwing rotten apples at the neighbors because they “looked funny”. A spat between kid clubs, with jealousy thrown in.
That ex-Navy dude? Married, with kids, selling cars the last time I saw him. Quiet, mundane. The frat rats I loathed? Those that I’ve linked up with, mostly responsible citizens with families. Quiet, mundane. Political affiliations? Never asked. Doesn’t matter.
In other words, I grew up. And so did they.
And it’s time that you grew up as well, actus. Or at least get that bitterness out of your system. ‘Cuz it’s driving you batshit crazy.
Just some friendly advice.
TW: Our leaders are only human. And so are you.
Plus le meme chose:
(WHACK)
Actus: Thank you sir! May I have another?
SB: series
one after another. He likes it.
And Rush Limbaugh, just to be complete.
Indisputably. Still, Democrats haven’t quite got a lock on stupidity yet. Hell, I think it may just have been a dead tie until we cut Pat Buchanan loose.
This topic is by now so dripping rich with irony and moonbat implosions it’s literally hard to know where to begin. Suffice it to say that every single last hysterical ‘bat talking point has vanished in a haze of blue powder smoke (while a pair of ‘Wisdom’s useful idiots keep hanging around, flagellating themselves endlessly with their own intellectual masochism.)
The Great Cheney Bird Caper of 2006 should go down in history as the turning point in the impending destruction of the Democrat Socialist Party (BDS). HAD Rove engineered this episode, surely his visage would one day be presented next to Einstein’s.
But reality this wonderful simply can’t be made up.
tw: Somewhere over their bent little rainbow, ‘bats turn BLUUUE…
Actus, it’s your senior year. You’ve been through initiation three times already, good god man, stop taking it like a man.
Don’t do that. That’ll be $450, please.
I swear, any blog that’s published as obsessively about Cheney as that place has, has got no business at all referring to others as “wingnuts”.
TW: figures.
Hey, it’s a free country. If you’ve got a zinger, let fly.
If the answer to that were a pit bull, you’d be asking that question out of a dripping ruin of a face.
Think; it’ll come to you.
Short version:
I mean, you can’t make this stuff up!
tw: Evidence of disorder.
Any bets on who got sent for the turtle oil and/or out to scout for snipe on Goss’ only hunting trip?
Is the answer, Beer? Beer, what can’t it solve?
BTW, the Whittington fellow has not died yet. I send my condolences to Darksyde, Actus and KKKarl Goss. Sorry, Fitzmas still sucks.
I think the answer is something more along the lines of self-loathing, but sure, beer is always a good guess. As long as you’re buying, that is.
Even if it’s the wrong answer, beer should always be looked into.
TW: in a New York minute.
Sure, slart, come up to Michael Moore’s Flint, MI, you can find the directions on Al Gore’s World Wide Web, I have the first round
Its possible to be in a frat and not act the fratboy stereotype. Ever see Revenge of the Nerds? Its kind of like that with some of the fictional license taken out.
Slarti, if Pat Buchanan (or any of the other true whack-meisters in the wonderful world of American politics) gets any more loose he’s gonna leave earth orbit.
[Hmmm. Might not be a bad idea. Now, if we can only trick them into this rocket, maybe say there’s free pie on board…]
Word: left.
reidiculous… “ridiculous†even.
No, I think reidiculous is more accurate. You know, as in Harry Reidiculous.
My counteroffer: does anyone recall The Twilight Zone episode entitled To Serve Man?
I tend to lean more towards deficient intelligence. I don’t believe that Actus has the critical logic skills to loath him/her/it’s self. I liken Actus to an average mouth breather.
In another film of his life, Actus pines for that scene at the end where the little con in coke-bottle specs finally snuggles up to the big (neo)con and then they raise
pigeonsquail on the roof. There’s still the odd bit of bloody abuse and cries of agonized ectasy, but hey, a guy’s gotta do…– I’m thinking you won’t get very many volunteers on that one Slart. Either they’re too young, or conversely, they wouldn’t be willing to date themselves that openly…
– In the mean time I’m wondering if Goldstein has exhausted all the available options of rimless encounters of the pageantry kind…..
Or how we’re saved by the fraternity *brothers* from the other campus. Psychoanalize that.
Perhaps we’ll just make fun of you more, booger.
My only frame of refference is from an old Simpson’s Halloween Special that parodied the To Serve Man episode. Does that count?