From the Arabic Dar al-Hayat (via Iraq the Model), “Iraqi tribes in Anbar arrest 270 Arab and foreign al-Qaeda members!”:
The Anbar tribes’ campaign to rid the province of Zarqawi’s terror organization, al-Qaeda in Iraq is in its 2nd day and so far, 270 Arab and foreign intruders have been arrested.
[…]
Usama Jad’aan, the leader of Karabila tribes in Qaim told al-Hayat that “the operation will continue to eliminate terror elements according to a quality plan†and added “270 Arab and foreign intruders have been arrested, in addition to some Iraqis who were providing them shelterâ€Â.
Sheikh Jad’aan added “the operation is conducted in coordination between the tribes and the minister of defense Sa’doun al-Dulaimi and since we arrested hundreds of terrorists, I don’t expect the operation to take a lot of timeâ€Â.
THE INK OF FINGERPRINTED TERRORISTS AND THEIR PROXIES IS ON YOUR BLOODY COLORNIAL HANDS, MR BUSH—CREATING A KIND OF, ER, MUDDY PURPLISH SLUDGE OF IMPERIALIST HATE AND U.S. OCCUPATION!
WHEN WILL YOU RECOGNIZE THAT YOUR POLICIES ARE CONFUSING THE NATIVES, MR BUSH—AND THAT A CONFUSED NATIVE WITH ACCESS TO C4 AND WAREHOUSES COVERTED TO PRODUCE IEDS MAKES FOR A NASTY BATTLE OVER PERSONAL AUTONOMY?
YOUR ARROGANCE HAS DISRUPTED THE BLISSFUL, FLOWING-ROBED ORDER OF THE CRESCENT OF THE WORLD, MR BUSH! NEVER AGAIN WILL THE TRAINS RUN ON TIME, OR THE OIL FLOW IN SUCH A WAY THAT WE CAN COMPLAIN THAT YOU ARE DRIVEN BY THE STABILITY OF THE OIL FLOW!
BASTARD!
Jesus. I can’t even wrap my head around the progressive message anymore enough to parody it effectively. Which is why the moment I post this I’m going to subscribe to Harper’s. And don’t you dare try talking me out of it.
My mind is made up—and sometimes, a filthy neocon just has to do what a filthy neocon has to do…
(h/t bigmattyh)
Jeff, name one pro- al Qeada “progressive”. The obvious fact that there were no al Qeada terrorists in Iraq prior to the invasion seems to have escaped you. Oh yeah, I forgot: there was one.
Jim,
You mean Sean Penn?
Jim: Every single”progressive” who opposes the president’s NSA program is pro al-Qeada. Jeff, Harper’s will make you sicker than you have been. Be very careful.
Well, let’s see JIm. There’s Cynthia McKinney who believes that the twin towers were bombed by the administration. There’s Ward Churchill. There’s Michael Moore, who refers to terrorists in Iraq as freedom fighters. There’s Joel Stein who doesn’t support the troops. There’s the “Screw Them” man, KOS himself, who believes that parents who had rather their kids not have sex before marriage are just the same as the Taliban. There’s any number of posters at KOS, forty percent of whom despise George Bush more than OBL, and the folks at DU. There’s the poster at KOS who led the demonstration over the weekend proclaiming that America knocked down the WTC. There’s Howard Dean, who claims that Iraq is a lost cause, and who thought the story about Bush blowing up the WTC was “very interesting.” And yes, he did sort of look like Artie Johnson when he said it.
There’s Jay Rockefeller who may have given Saddam the heads up to move his WMDS before the war in Iraq started. There’s Jack Murtha, an otherwise patriotic man, who for reasons unknown, has decided that an Al Qaeda victory in Iraq is good for the US, or at least for him.
There’s Amnesty International, which, as you may remember, ruined its credibility calling US soldiers war criminals without evidence. There’s the ACLU which has decided that free speech means letting Sami Al Arian walk free. There’s Molly Ivins, who claimed that Americans had killed more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein had. There’s Cindy Sheehan, who in additon to hating the land of her birth seems to pretty much despise Isreal, too. And on and on and on.
As for the claim that Saddam Hussein had no connection with Al Qeada, that looks more laughable by the moment, again see Steven Hayes work.
Code Pink. I do believe they sent money to the “resistance” in Falluja.
Michael Moore. Opposed removing the Taliban from Afghanistan.
More than one terrorist, if you’ve got the brains not to limit terrorists to al’Qaeda. The only 1993 WTC bomber not in prison; Abu Nidal; large portions of the Black September organization; Zarqawi received medical aid from Saddam’s regime; etc.
Ted Rall.
Come on, you guys. He said ONE. If you name them ALL he’ll go into a spasm of information overload and reject everything out of hand.
Jim, I’m looking for your explanation of why it is that you keep repeating “obvious facts” that are actually complete falsehoods.
I guess it helps if you ignore all reporting on the issue, including the recent reporting regarding the discovery of Iraqi documents reporting the training of thousands of Al Queda affiliated terrorists.
Is getting killed by al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade or Hamas or one of the family members from Tikrit better than getting killed by al-Queda? Is raw sewage better than just plain ol’ shit? Is oral better than anal on your first night in prison? Can Jim possibly be nuanced enough to draw a distinction?
Here you go, Jim.
Or, if you don’t feel like reading in context, here, here and here.
Usama Jad’aan sounds like middle management material.
Reviewing the thread I see that Jim is a poor baby that wasn’t given enough love as a youngster so he goes on the internet and says stupid things for the attention they will garner. IGNORE HIM! He isn’t sane, he is needy.
You an’t be needy and still be sane?
Well.
Damn.
All that great reporting coming out about all those newly discovered links between Saddam and al queda wouldn’t be from those hacks the Pentagon hires would it? You know, the good news guys?
Boys, you got the war you wanted. You just didn’t win it. Iran did. And now we get to fight Iran. Or Syria. Syria looks more winable to all you scary sounding neo con cowards who assess these things but uh, hmmm, darn, Iraq was supposed to be a sure thing. Cake walk. Three months, tops. And uh, oh yeah, I forgot, the Army is pretty much spent. Don’t suppose you fellahs want to sign up do you? Pull on some of that great body armour – oh, wait, might lose your death benefit if your folks pitch in and get you the quality armor? Yeah, nah, I didn’t think so. So much more patriotic to sit on your duff and stick a santitarium bumper sticker over your face
j.
Did someone slip jill a micky?
Let’s see, government lies, losing the war, chickenhawks, body armor… but you completely missed Halliburton, WMD, oil and torture. No mention of Cheney, Chimpey, Rumsfield or even Rove for chrissakes.
Sorry jill, but that post pretty much sucked.
Oh, look—a pack of lies and the chickenhawk crap. It must be nice to not have to think.
boys, admit it, you were so much happier masturbating with penis in hand. Not all this stinky neo con goo that drips and oozes and makes your co- workers whisper to the newest hire; Bob’s a cyber warrior, pod casts el-rushbo. Might want to keep your distance.
Ahhh, got ya.
j
Jill, you were one of the folks that shut down comments on the Washington Post blog weren’t you?
She’s just upset at the torture….
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/russia_military_hazing
Maybe that would explain her penis fixation.
Well, sure. None of the other ways seem to work very well.
TW: thing. Sad when a scrap of Javascript is better at sticking to the point than your trolls are.
stinky neo con goo?!!
This is not one of the top ten jaw-droppingly stupid utterances I’ve seen in any comment thread anywhere, only because it’s been retreaded and rolled out so many times that if my jaw dropped whenever I saw it I’d have long since lost the ability to reel it back in.
Tell us, Jim, is it also a fact that George W. Bush is Hitler?
Naw, sorry to disappoint, but that’s just your right breast you’re holding onto. Better relax your deathgrip, less gangrene sets in.
TW: time for bed, jill.
Funny, that’s what all the guys down at the bar say about you.
yeah sean, goo –
And all your old, old friends (remember?) the ones who never went along with your older brother’s weird Bush is God ideology, they’re all afraid to say anything because they know how fragile you are but it’s gotten to the point where you have this kind of weird sheen to your skin. You’ll notice it a lot more readily as soon as your tongue begins to flicker everytime you open up for some more yummy neo con stew. Monday’s special was how NSA warrants are infeasible on account of it’s technologically impossible to cover so many thousands of searches. Now you spit that up Sean because, as we just learned, the NSA targets are specific, not broad.
j.
Joke’s on you, jill–I have a younger brother!
TW = age
snort and chuckle…
Phhhhht.
Oooops. Pardon me but a girl’s got to try to keep up with all you rough hewn aces out there.
Good one, right?
j.
Hmmmmm…
Iran won OIF.
That’s a new one. But thanks for the preemptive declaration of war for Iran and Syria.
Saves us neocon warmongers the effort to gin something up if Syria and Iran are already belligerents.
La-di-da-di-da…oh, the Army is broken? Body armor? Death benefits? Chickenhawk?
Well, if by some cosmic coincidence one of the posters might be, oh say, a veteran, I’d assume that that person would have the moral authority to tell you where to stuff all that chicken hawk BS, right? Because military experience “outranks†civilian, so to speak? And being a nasty, fat-body civilian that no doubt you are, jill, it might be presumptuous to speak about an institution you have never served in, do not understand, do not speak for, and most likely know no one from. Again, because any military person from lowest private to recruit training dropout, outranks a raw civilians opinion on the war.
La-di-da-di-da. Oh, I’m a hawk.
Shut your cum-dumpster.
inconceivable!
my, who’s this big man who’s just bellied up to the bar? You’re not exactly dreamy but, gosh are you hunky. Hey hunky, whyn’t you grab your crotch and talk dirty some more. We gals – What’s that? Oh my, look everyone, Hunky can speak outta of his ass crack. Whoa, but what’s that coming out of your pie hole? Ah… Eeeew. Not very attractive, hunky. Might want to go clean your chin off and dab on some more eu de colongna… (don’t worry, no one speaks French in this dive).
j
So one would think. . .ah, to be a cat.
Ahem. But never mind me.
I got it, Jill. Here it is– dream match up.
Our guys: Mail Man, Bird–forwards; Wilt, c; Magic, MJ. g.
Your guys: Peolisi. Durbin–forwards; Lurch, c; Kennedy, Dean, g.
Full court–play to 100– no refs.
Got it.
About the same. Real Life.
*Reads jill’s posts.*
*Cries*
Can we get PiaToR back? I mean, that kiwi called you a racist, Mr. Goldstein, but at least (s)he wasn’t some 14 year old underdeveloped teenage girl with delusions of WOMYNHOOD snarking out all those evil NEOKKKON boys with icky phalluses… phallii…
Modo, is that you, you hot little skank?
tw: I’ll take top.
Phallium, OHNOES, or maybe phallist…
tw: The economics of never buying a razor.
Ah come on! The progressive crap we hear (note that I did not capitalize progressive) these days is nothing but juvenal fantasy. Today’s “progressives” want us to believe that the Rosenbergs were innocent when the overwhelming evidence is otherwise. Add to that the “progressive” endorsement of civil rights in the US and their concurrent endorsement of Stalin’s brutal butchering of Jewish doctors in the late 1940’s and the early 1950’s. To those in the mis-informed MSM this is just a game—to those of us who take human life seriously, this is nothing less than crimes against humanity. It is imperative that these criminals be brought to justice as soon as possible. And by the way, forget the United Nations in this endeavor!
Non, mais je parle la langue seulment a les filles, et seulment les filles qui aient besoin de quelle que chose especiallment dans leur vies.
For women who are disrespectful of a service they do not know, and cannot, they get 4-letter words used as nouns, verbs, adjectives, pronouns, adverbs, conjugations as subjects and predicates.
But I digress. At least you’ve shut up about chicken-hawkism.
Don’t do it, Jeff. Harper’s reeks of … hypocrisy.
Excuse me, but where’s the proprietor?
Ah, yes, gazing down upon us from his balcony. Sadly, this isn’t Cafe Americana, you aren’t Rick and the clientele who frequent aren’t exactly interesting nor honorable. Me, I’ve encountered a string of louts, boys with meaty paws and some real scary types. You do see that too, don’t you? I think you do. You’re a bright guy. Rather thoughtful, sensitive. Articulate. You see who gloms off you though don’t you? Step back and think about that. And think about the stench they leave you with. And then tell them what you really think of them. Apply your intellect, your gift for words to telling your posters that they have no class. No sense of humor. Clearly no sense of irony. And then think about a world that isn’t defined by fear alone. Where fear isn’t the one and only motivator. If you can do that and see hope and human compassion in the cracks where the light gets in, you’ll see the promise of a better world. And speak to that for a change. Try it. I guarantee you’ll like yourself so much more.
J.
Ahh, the Eloi partyline, how’s that whole Morlock thing working out for you guys?
Oh, delicious! Just delicious! Too much, dear, really–you make us feel so very evil and dirty!
jill is upset because the armadillo is singing ”Sweet Melissa” and not ”L’Internationale”.
I hope Jill gets paid by the word and not by the cogent point. Some people just don’t get that brevity is the soul of…and so forth.
Dude, she’s all over your package. (Maybe when you’re done with her you could, you know, pass her around to the rest of us?)
BECAUSE OF THE SCARY MEATY PAWS!
Jill, you’re so effin’ hot. I’m so into you. I want to make you crazy. Make you so effin’ crazy. I’ve talked to Betsy, and she’s really into you too…. If you’re into her, I think we could have an effin’ great time. I want to do a line of coke off that hot hot ass of yours while Betsy goes down on you. God, I am so into you, Jill, it’s effin’ unbelievable.
Jill, my name is Antonio Banderas.
You are a very beautiful woman. You shall be with me tonight.
Come we shall dance the forbidden dance and then I shall leave you with a bottle of tequila to remember me.
BECAUSE OF THE HYPOCRISY!!!!
I don’t know, this Jill person strikes me as having worthwhile troll potential. Loquacious without a point makes for a rhetorically target-rich environment. And her bitter is funnier than some of the other bitter and cranky I’ve seen.
Dumber, perhaps, but them’s the breaks.
Oh, by the way, Jill, if you’re trying to make a point to Jeff specifically, then that whole e-mail thing might not be too bad. If, however, you intended it as an open letter, then have the good grace to be aware of your broader audience. Using the open letter as a means of talking down about a present party is just kind of weak, really.
Eff that, man. She’s got worthwhile BONE potential, if you ask me. So effin’ sexy, God, I could just get ball-deep in her ass all night.
Alright, I’m gonna have to play the card. Sorry.
*Erects sign “Do not feed the trolls. Especially those whose largest weapon is to act bemused and lack any cogent points, or evoke vague, cartoonish caricatures of their opponents.”*
Pat,
Hot? Dunno.
Sassy? Probably.
We’ll just have to see how it plays out.
BRD
That’s funny, ‘cuz I can do yours just fine: It’s mission accomplished in Iraq boys, Yep, the insurgency there is in it’s last throes fer sure. Almost over now, and this time I really , really, really, really mean it. Yeah, the last three hundred times I said it don’t count but this one does, this one you can take to the bank.
You’re right. That’s great stuff. Really. Nearly pitch perfect.
You know, I’m reminded of one of my collegiate ‘friends’ at this time. He swore up and down that he hated Bush more than OBL because “Hypocrisy is worse than evil.”
Why? I dunno. Just that I’m getting REAL sick of feeling like we’re not have intelligent dissenters here, just more nitwits subscribing to trite platitiudes and half-witted gotcha moments. Being in an echo chamber isn’t intellectually fulfilling…
Thanks, Jeff.
OHNOES, Osama wants to kill us. Bush wants to wipe his ass with the constitution. Up to you which you hate more.
I can’t speak for OHNOES, Retief, but I personally hate false dichotomies. And I thought our side was the one that had the problem with nuances. I guess you live and learn.
The constitution, being old and made of parchment would, I imagine, be quite scratchy if used as a toilet paper. I say, that’s better than Bush going all soft and wiping Bin Laden’s ass with Charmin.
tw: Which is what Kerry would have done.
Retief, a man that does not fathom sarcasm is a sad thing. As far as the constitution bit, that has been covered on this site, exhaustively. It’s just not true. Even John Kerry, that KOS acolyte himself, has said that the NSA program is necessary, and that Congress should do waht ever it takes to make sure it continues, including changin the debated law, if necessary.
I wo7uld posit that means no one believes the president is trying to destroy the constitution. It’s all just politics, sort of like the Alito filibuster, and the Katrina hearings, and the refusal to finanace the troops while they were in Iraq and on and on and on.
Jill darling, might want to zip it cause your penis envy is showing.
I’ve encountered a string of louts, boys with meaty paws and some real scary types.
Hm. Since I’m not a boy, and don’t have meaty paws–but rather, tiny hands and feet–I must be one of the “real scary types.”
I do think she must be trying to flatter us.
Heh. Perhaps, Attila Girl, she conceives of you as the Juliette to her Justine. (And, apparently, of Jeff as her Comte de Bressac.)
– I’m with jill baby on this one because…. well just because…. ITS SO DAMN HARD TO GET THAT PURPLE SLUDGE CRAP OFF YOUR DICK…..
– Well if you actually have one I mean…`Course if you have a propeller like Goldstein says his does, then I suppose its “self-cleaning”….
You guys all be polite now.
We’re obviously in the presence of a lady…
Jill, you have no hope of ever been taken home to meet somebody’s momma do you?
The Constitution has proven to be quite durable, and easily cleaned through the years. Wash and wear, it would appear, in fact. I hope Roberts and Alito will give it a good scrubbing soon. But it does us no good if we are all dead.
– Oh and jill. You really need to keep your “meaty paws and speaking ass crack” away from our Atilla girl. Otherwise you’ll be hearing from our “Arrogant bastard, beemer driving, perrier’ water swilling, O.J. is innocent, fuck all you gun rack fly over red state goobers, are my Hilfiger slacks back from the cleaners yet, South Topanga canyon, piss on you I got mine, Hollyweird “elite” attourneys. And trust me, you really don’t want that. They’re highly aggitated 7th level Phantasmic “Ghost Busters” nasty, if yah know what I mean…..
I enjoy the comments from folk like jill because they so perfectly reflect their actual mindset, as opposed to what they pretend to believe. It’s not just the “debate” tactics themselves—present an argument, and when it’s responded to change the subject to ad hominem and preadolescent potty mouth. It’s the core content, and Jeff is right (as usual). They’ve gotten so rigid and incoherent that it’s hard to parody.
I count four insults embedded in that short passage, which you have to admit is pretty good work; possibly five, depending on the definition of “win”. But what stands out here, at least to me, is the extension of the Left’s attitude toward the religious to outside the country. Many Iraqis are Shi’ia. So are the Iranians, mostly. Therefore if Iraqi Shi’ia are allowed to practice their religion without bloody suppression from the Sunni, “Iran won”. It’s the attitude that can’t distinguish among the Pope, Pat Robertson, and Missouri Synod Lutherans. No mention of different strains of Shi’ia; no realization that Iraq is where Shi’ia started and the Iranians are copycats; no recognition of anything resembling Iraqi nationalism; no noting that Sistani left Iran because he wanted to be at the home and center of the faith, not on the periphery. And these are the people who prize nuance!
You realize that’s not a criticism, don’t you? It’s a brag. jill has so thoroughly identified with the deliciously wonderful people who feed people to shredders and blow up babies that she’s crowing about her success in extending the conflict. Her support, and that of the rest of the Left, has been vital in keeping Zarqawi’s hopes up—if he just stays the course he can win, and jill is cool with that. Maybe after he does he’ll invite her over to participate. She may not have the upper-body strength to behead people, but anybody can poke out eyeballs and brand.
And of course it leaves out the fact that the part that was expected to be easy was actually easier than expected—not even the three months, and remarkably few casualties. That’s ok for purposes of her crowing. The part she’s participating in (on the terrorists’ side) is still ongoing. Is it not wonderful?
That’ll do to go on with. Other commenters, don’t fall into the trap—only her first post has any substance whatever; the rest of it is all playground taunts and shit-flinging, highly amusing if you’re thirteen or a case of arrested development but having no objective content. It is worth noting that she assumes there are no veterans commenting here—having none within her circle of acquaintance, and therefore having not the least scrap of the most basic knowledge of veterans or veterans’ attitudes, she takes it for granted that all other polities have the same advantage (as she sees it) and feels free to fling accusations.
Note, too, that she and Retief are presenting the two prongs of a common attack. jill tells us that anyone who tells us good news is a hired hack; Retief tells us that any news of progress is a declaration of final victory, to be sneered at. It’s all part of the attempt to control the narrative. I haven’t seen much out of Lieberman lately. I wonder how he feels about it?
Regards,
Ric
Indeed, you idiot. The SOB obviously has no interest in government’s valid roles: Creating welfare cities, free medicine, indoctrinating kids in the planets most underachieving statist school system per dollar; outlawing free speech (provided it’s white, male, and red-state) and generally pissing away some 7 trillion dollars, courtesy of you asshole socialists; you know, constitutional stuff like that.
The bastard is even sprucing up the military:
tw: That old saw.
Easier way to say all that Ric: When you’re a self-hating coffee house intellectual with issues with everyone from that bitch mom and that fucker dad to the grinning caricatures in the White House, a pissy tongue and an absinthe wit is all you need to land a spot on the Dean board of enlightenment.
From there, crudity and an odd vocabulary make your contradictory points for you; after all, you wouldn’t be so righteously pissed if you weren’t so keenly insightful. You pain defines you.
tw: Single
Jill wrote:
“ Me, I’ve encountered a string of louts, boys with meaty paws and some real scary types.”
This is the organizing principle of your entire life, isn’t it, Jill?
No, 6Gun and file closer, it’s a tactic. It’s the Big Lie, updated and with new and better features.
Take an issue. Delete any and every feature that may tend to contradict your position on it. Distil the result into a slogan (“Iran won!”) and present the slogan whenever possible. If challenged, the first tactic is to repeat the slogan, louder. If challenged on point fling insult, the more scatological and/or sex-based the better; the goal is to divert any attention away from the issue, which leaves the slogan standing. It’s a pity Dr. Goebbels isn’t around. He’d be so proud of his students.
The nice thing about it is that it doesn’t require intelligence, or even cleverness, in the rank and file of arguers. Distillation of the issue can be done and disseminated by the relatively few intelligent, committed ideologues; nobody else even needs to think about it, they only need to learn to chant the “talking points”, which could as easily be done by an iPod. As soon as anything resembling discussion of the points themselves appears they simply retreat into mud-flinging, assfucking, and dick jokes, entirely suitable for the mentalities they actually possess. Elegant use of the materials at hand, no?
Regards,
Ric
– Hey Ric…. common…. cut me some slack here…. No dick jokes… I’d lose half my “retort” material… *snicker*
– “G_d must have given us Liberals for our amusement” – Benny Hill
BBH, if you think it’s fun, by all means continue.
One of the reasons for the tactic is the characteristic teeny kernel of truth: we of the Right tend not to find quite so much intellectual stimulation in discussion of variants of the sex act and waste elimination as the preadolescent mentalities we’re dealing with do. That’s a tendency, not an absolute, and if people like yourself are willing to go along with the gag it helps to take the edge off. Jeff does the same sort of thing.
Just don’t let them take your eye off the ball, OK? The tactic works if the dick jokes become a substitute for debate on point.
Regards,
Ric
Ric, you’ve got so much patience, talent and skill that you’re always a pleasure to read.
Cheers!
Leftism is both tactic and strategy, Ric, and it naturally relies on, among other evidence,
-Special, false insight, special knowledge, earned rage, perceived expertise, appearances-centrism, and hierarchal standing in small, exclusive circles (the assumed or implied intellectual majority of just one special-talker obscenely condescending to narrow stereotypes on key talking points and myths)
-Elitist dispensation and vocabulary (“progressive†instead of liberal, Clinton’s entire can-we-just-move-on term, and Reid’s transparently manufactured pandering clockwork bullshit – the man’s not stupid)
-Endless vapid, opportunistic spinning (Sharpton, Thee Revruun Jaxxsun, JFK, et al)
-Appearances over substance and political paranoia (Chimpy McHitler hates blacks, Sheehan, and Mikey Moore)
-Intractable mendacity (Clinton again, the coastal Democratic senators, moonbat academia)
-Mob rule and moving goalposts (government-by-poll and the Left’s sudden, miraculous fascination with the Constitution)
-Moral relativism, self-loathing, and denying reality and history (the entire anti-war movement)
-And good old fashioned willful myopia (the Dem talking point fax machine and poll-parsing.)
To your point, these features exist on the strategized, supply side of the Leftist machine and clearly do so willfully and by design: There they’ve legitimized the institutional stealing and political lying the entire Socialist Democrat platform stands on in order to buy votes with nannyism. Then there’s the highly marketed political paranoia, the laughably bogus constitutionalism, the issue-parsing, the sheer, endless mendacity. The Socialist Democrat vendor/politicians and establishment manufacture it and the voting customer buys it. It’s amazingly effective and it sells.
But because there’s no market where there’s no demand, I look at the problem more from the tactical consumer side. The dysfunction suggested by the psyches revealed in the various tactics of ruthless, unprincipled, personal political gain. The symptoms suggest that Leftism is a mental disorder and would explain why the Left is where the hysterical, obscene moonbat naturally congregates. Where better for the helpless, the self-victimized, and the politically deranged to stand around in society’s mental soup line than the Socialist Democrat Party?
We have only ourselves to blame when Washington, media, and academia stock shelves with salable merchandise. We can condense those supply-side strategies to their constituent ethics and principles, but when we get into the whacked customer base, that’s when things neatly fall into place. That’s where wrong is right and down is up and so naturally, the consumer tactics know no bounds.
tw: We built this city on paying customers.
Oh, delicious!!!
The Palestinian Islamic terrorists ARE Nazis.
They just elected Hitler.
Waiting on the Left to either capitulate like a Frenchman at a carnival shooting gallery or blame democracy (whose parliamentary procedure itself opposes secular multi-culti tyranny).
Retief  I suggest you go back and reread the stories you lifted your handle from. Do you think Keith Laumer would have had the least tolerance for today’s left. That doesn’t sound to me like the man I had the privilege to meet and help publish.
What YOU said, 6Gun. The key is to make sure these fine people stay on their long losing streak. The Republic depends on it.
6Gun, you are of course correct on all points, but that discussion is rather larger than the point I was trying to make.
And now—well, it’s stopped raining :-( and my wife is outside starting the lawn tractor. There are honey-dos waiting, and disapprobation for the concept of sitting at the computer all afternoon.
Regards,
Ric
One of the facets of the lefty mindset that intrigues me is the dual attitude toward the military: it seems that one tactic often used is to throw out the chickenhawk meme first, and thereby flush out any veterans that are participating in the discussion.
Remember that to most of these people, there is no such thing as a smart member of the armed forces. And the idea that soldiers, Marines, airmen and sailors might actually be intellectuals is supremely impossible.
So once the existence of retired and/or active-duty military has been established, the entire community of commenters can be written off as redstate hicks who just don’t have the class of the coastal elites.
Of course, some people are simply idiots: Ric’s point is well-taken. The smart ones decide what the main talking points are, and the mentally deficient parrot them. This “jill” is clearly one of the latter.
Robert Jensen. Was that supposed to be hard or something?
:peter
– All of your posts are clearly on point, well written, and factually correct. Unfortunately “outing by defining” has not the slightest effect on the peckerhead flock, certainly not their feckless leaders, since very specifically “thats all they’ve got”. So its not likely that, however accurate the “exposure”, they’ll cease the willful ignorance/unskillful lexiconal gaming any time soon. Which isn’t all bad, giving the Right plenty of things to dis-assemble when times are slow. We’re on something like EverythingGate screed #16 at this point, with the latest “WiretapGate” gambit, and its become a bit of a game to see what sort of BDS scam they’ll dredge up next. In the means time they continue with no clear party platform they can even begin to try to sell to mainstream America. Life is good…..
Attilagirl  What about “coastal elites” who are veterans? We do exist.
Perhaps “jill” is just feeling empowered , justified by the knowledge that a certain
<a href=
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/international/20tapefulltext.html?pagewanted=2> “world recognized political leader”</a> is parroting the liberal extremist POV.
Judge for yourself. Here are some excerpts:
“I plan to speak about the repeated errors your President Bush has committed in comments on the results of your polls that show an overwhelming majority of you want the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. But he (Bush) has opposed this wish and said that withdrawing troops sends the wrong message to opponents, that it is better to fight them (bin Laden’s followers) on their land than their fighting us (Americans) on our land.”
Talking points referencing Zogby and AP poll numbers, often cited by Democrats .
“…and Pentagon figures show the number of your dead and wounded is increasing not to mention the massive material losses, the destruction of the soldiers’ morale there and the rise in cases of suicide among them.”
Only the liberal biased Main Stream Media could say it better, everyday,every hour, every minute. It’s good to know UBL watches MSNBC.
“As for torturing men, they have used burning chemical acids and drills on their joints. And when they give up on (interrogating) them, they sometimes use the drills on their heads until they die. Read, if you will, the reports of the horrors in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo prisons.”
I think the ACLU could call this guy to testify as a character witness in the suits they have filled in relation to Guantanamo.
“The sensible people realize that Bush does not have a plan to make his alleged victory in Iraq come true.”
Just me or didn’t Kerry copy write that line or was it Pelosi or Kennedy or …..
“And if you compare the small number of dead on the day that Bush announced the end of major operations in that fake, ridiculous show aboard the aircraft carrier with the tenfold number of dead and wounded who were killed in the smaller operations, you would know the truth of what I say. This is that Bush and his administration do not have the will or the ability to get out of Iraq for their own private, suspect reasons.”
Obvious UBL is registered at MoveOn.org cause he is straight up taking there arguments. Pointing to the statements made on the Aircraft Carrier by President Bush and the implication that the war is all about making money for Halliburton. MoveON OsamA !
“If I were president, I would stop the attacks on the United States: First I would give an apology to all the widows and orphans and those who were tortured. Then I would announce that American interference in the nations of the world has ended once and for all.”
OK, Now I am sure he is an extreme liberal. IF you voted for him as president he would admit defeat, withdraw the troops and announce to the world that America really should be blamed for everything .
I know you exist. I married a very urbane former Marine who works in entertainment.
But I’m afraid the Left persists in stereotyping anyone with military ties as being either bloodthirsty and/or nonintellectual.
– Which Attila Girl, is just a piece of the bigotry/intellectual arrogance that is the left, and a very real and present factor that, G_d willing, will keep them from holding any important public offices until that changes. The only practicak way I see it changing is when the moderate Dems take back the leadership and control of their party, and so far that doesn’t look to be anytime soon.
Oh, don’t tell me, Atilla Girl, you’re married!! My heart is broken..
Mike Berg.
Duh.
tw: effort, as in none whatsoever.
S/ Well, so what if I’m a blood-thirsty neanderthal? I can find out where you live and napalm your butt. /S
S/ Napalm…sucks the air right outa your friggin lungs. Gives you a curly ‘do, too. That major who loved the smell of it in the morning? He’s fiction. I’m not. /S
Corvan, Sad indeed. When Kerry says that the NSA program is necessary, and that Congress should make sure it continues, including changing the debated law, if necessary, and Bush says we don’t need no stinkin changes in no stinkin laws, how do you see those as equivilent positions?
Ric Locke, I’m all for signs of progress, but it’s not like folks haven’t keep pointing to hopeful signs of progress over the past three years as the actual situation just continues to deteriorate.
Franklin Delano “Who ARE those people?” Roosevelt, go read em yourself. I never met Laumer, but my guess is he would have found what you call the left, amusing and found the right, those who have been running this snafu for the past several years, far more insidious.
Oh, and Sean M, “it doesn’t matter which do you hate worse” isn’t a dichotomy.