16 Replies to ““Why the Right is Right” [Darleen Click]”

1. happyfingers says:

   September 23, 2015 at 4:17 am

   Yes.

   Because of it’s i’m staunch.

2. TRESPASSERS W says:

   September 23, 2015 at 8:54 am

   Truth is conservative.

3. bgbear says:

   September 23, 2015 at 2:07 pm

   I like the old ways better.

   Conservative values are based on how the world actually is and not how you would like it to be.

4. Bob Belvedere says:

   September 23, 2015 at 5:14 pm

   Please see the Works of Edmund Burke.

5. newrouter says:

   September 23, 2015 at 5:49 pm

   Carly Fiorina, “Gaslighting”, Islam, Her Relationship To Clinton Global Initiative, and Progressive Agenda…

   http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/09/23/carly-fiorina-gaslighting-islam-her-relationship-to-clinton-global-initiative-and-progressive-agenda/#more-106445

6. LBascom says:

   September 23, 2015 at 9:24 pm

   Conservatives are the grown-ups. Liberals validate their inner child.

   We been sparing the rod for way too long.

7. Ernst Schreiber says:

   September 23, 2015 at 9:32 pm

   I’m a conservative because it’s a bad idea to move a boundary stone when you don’t know why it’s there.

8. The Monster says:

   September 23, 2015 at 9:32 pm

   I’m not a conservative; I’m libertarian. (Small-l because voting for a 3rd party does not affect the margin of victory between the top two, and therefore is literally wasted.) I’ll also answer to “classical liberal”.

   And the reason I am is because I don’t believe there’s a moral justification to be anything else. I don’t have the right to send Men With Badges And Guns to force people to do things the way I like, whether that’s baking a cake for a gay wedding, selling soft drinks over 16 fluid ounces, smoking a joint, or coming to an agreement about a business transaction.

   I do have a certain amount of deference toward the established order that some might consider “conservative”. If I don’t understand the “why” behind some societal norm, I don’t assume that there isn’t a good reason for it and insist it be torn down. Instead, I ask the “conservatives” to tell me a “why” that does not boil down to “because we’ve always done it that way”, to know whether there’s a baby in that bathwater before we throw it out.

9. newrouter says:

   September 23, 2015 at 10:50 pm

   Best of Joy Division – Joy Division

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz233gJSzK0

10. Darleen says:

    September 23, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    monster

    I’ve always waivered between being a small “l” libertarian (I even was a registered Libertarian for a number of years) and a conservative.

    And I think it boils down to why I’m a conservative, is though I believe in granting the most possible Liberty when/where ever possible

    I also know, KNOW I cannot trust most other people to live up to the obligations that entails.

    I want a safety net for MY rights, made up of laws that control/punish the miscreants and not let them use my Liberty against me.

11. Bob Belvedere says:

    September 24, 2015 at 5:27 am

    I am a conservative, through-and-through, I find.

    I have found myself in wholehearted and, more importantly, instinctual agreement with Russell Kirk’s Ten Conservative Principles:

    First, the conservative believes that there exists an enduring moral order.

    Second, the conservative adheres to custom, convention, and continuity.

    Third, conservatives believe in what may be called the principle of prescription.

    Fourth, conservatives are guided by their principle of prudence.

    Fifth, conservatives pay attention to the principle of variety.

    Sixth, conservatives are chastened by their principle of imperfectability.

    Seventh, conservatives are persuaded that freedom and property are closely linked.

    Eighth, conservatives uphold voluntary community, quite as they oppose involuntary collectivism.

    Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions.

    Tenth, the thinking conservative understands that permanence and change must be recognized and reconciled in a vigorous society.

    The details on each one of the Ten may be found here.

12. The Monster says:

    September 24, 2015 at 7:40 am

    Darleen,

    I want a safety net for MY rights, made up of laws that control/punish the miscreants and not let them use my Liberty against me.

    Depending on what you mean by words like “safety net” and “miscreants”, that does not at all conflict with libertarian principles.

    The first principle I use when evaluating whether a law is just is “Who is the victim of this ‘crime’?” A law that protects your person/property against aggression is exactly what government exists for. A law that pretends to protect you from your own stupidity is not (where “you” refers to adult humans without any brain damage, etc., that ought to disqualify them from voting).

    Where there is neither force nor fraud, government should leave people free to do “stupid” things that hurt themselves, learn from their mistakes, and improve their decision-making abilities. And sleazy operators are free to make money off that stupidity.

13. John Bradley says:

    September 24, 2015 at 8:59 am

    I don’t think I am a conservative any longer, having written off the Respectable Conservatives as fundamentally useless. *

    What’s the point of writing endless papers, articles, and blog posts attempting to win an intellectual argument that no one is even willing to listen to? The schools have raised 2 generations of voters largely incapable of reason, enslaved to their emotions like unthinking brutes. And our leaders (including no shortage of conservatives) are intent on importing 50M+ third-worlders who can’t be reached with a really pithy op-ed because they don’t even speak the freaking language.

    I’m of the opinion that the time for ‘conservative’ responses has long since passed. We are at war (or should be) with people who want to enslave us for their personal gain. Did we defeat Hitler with snarky tweets, happily content that we were winning the argument and possibly persuading a few fence-sitters to join our side? Were the founders ‘conservative’?

    I don’t believe any amount of Conservatism (‘compassionate’ or otherwise) can stop this country (or the West in general) from Thelma & Louise-ing itself. A nice bloody revolution might, but never seems to. Still, worth a shot, I say. Not because I think it’ll work mind you, just that I’d like to see any degree of justice and retribution meted out to the bastards that brought us here. You know, before I die. Seeing them called “feckless lying crapweasels” in next week’s G-file isn’t doing it for me any longer.

    Yesterday’s ‘OUTLAW!’ is today’s alt-right, I think. Or close enough for my purposes.

    —-

    * “Conservatives: Proudly conserving the hell out of the status quo (e.g., shit the Radical Left pushed for 20 years earlier).”

14. McGehee says:

    September 24, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    Can you articulate why you are a Conservative?

    Low tolerance for guff.

15. Evan3457 says:

    September 24, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    I’m a conservative because whether the opposition is called liberalism, the Democrat Party, progressivism, socialism, Marxism or communism, if unchecked, it all leads the to same thing: a terror-tyranny straight out of Orwell’s 1984.

16. bgbear says:

    September 24, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Matt Diilon explained the “safety net”:
    Around Dodge City and in the territory on west, there’s just one way to handle the killers and the spoilers and that’s with a U.S. Marshal and the smell of gunsmoke

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