Well, I’m glad Kevin has decided to put aside all the equivocation, obfuscations and euphemisms that Left-liberals employ to avoid stating their view quite so baldly.
And, be assured, Kevin wants you also to know that “Obviously the rest of our views follow from that.”
The occasion of Kevin’s refreshing candidness on the non-humaness of a gestating human [where the magical line of humaness is once the head has cleared mom and no one in the room either places said quasi-human in a closet to become fully non-human or hands it over to a medical tech to harvest the quasi-humans decidedly human liver, spine, kidneys and other assorted viscera — the Agents of Choice sprinkle magic dust and pronounce it “A Child”*] ….
*saying “boy” or “girl” is to engage in assigning a gender; something that all the Bright and Shiny enlightened ones will not so stoop to burden a new child with such binary heteronormativity.
… is a back-handed dismissal of Ramesh Ponnuru’s question:
A recent Sarah Silverman tweet distilled one argument many liberals are making about the Planned Parenthood videos into a few characters: ”Abortion is still legal in the great U.S of A. It would be insane not to use fetal tissue 4 science & education in such cases. #StandwithPP.”
The death penalty is also still legal in our great country. Should we employ methods of execution so as to yield the highest number of usable organs? Should prisons be able to donate these organs in return for some compensation for their costs–maybe enough to break even, or do a little bit better than break even? For that matter, should we do experiments on death-row inmates before we execute them, in the name of “science & education”? (We could render these experiments painless, if that’s important to people, even though we do not require the anesthetization of late-term fetuses being aborted.) And remember, our reasons for saying no can’t have to do with respect for the convicts’ autonomy, since we are about to violate that autonomy in a bigger way.
Kevin deigns to fart in Ramesh’s general direction …
To us lefties, the death penalty involves killing a human being. Abortion doesn’t.
Leftism in all its glory. Mass murderers should be afforded all the respect of a human being, but an unborn child at any stage of development deserves no more respect than a skin tag.
Thanks for clearing that up, Kevin.
>To us lefties, the death penalty involves killing a human being. Abortion doesn’t. <
‘It’s another boy!’: 4th video goes into heart of Planned Parenthood fetal body parts lab
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Of course the left has dehumanized unborn babies. They have also dehumanized whole swaths of the population they don’t like. What they will try to do to eliminated that problem is inevitable, as are the millions more who will ultimately die because of them.
You know the NAZIs didn’t consider the Jews or Slavs human beings.
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Well, the Supreme Court has, after all, held that a fetus, a “being of an inferior order,” having “no rights that a liberal person is bound to respect.”
Dred Scott was not available for comment.
It would be interesting to know Kevin Drum’s position on animal testing/research.
That guy is one of the reasons I rarely use my first name on the web.
The Dread Pirate McGehee?
I never wudda guessed!
As far as “honesty” goes, I recall some years ago a feminist on one of the feminist websites posted an article saying essentially, “abortion kills a human life; so what?” Disgusting? Of course. But far more honest than those who try to camouflage the reality by pretending they are not doing that which they are, in fact, doing.
Who does that make Vizzini?
i’ve read this like five times
no luck
no luck
no surprise
So, Mr. Drum, when does a fetus become a human?
I have NEVER gotten an answer to that question that didn’t involve a lot of hand waving.
Good god, SEK states the videos are a hoax.
his assholiness knows no bounds.
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Him, a straight man?
lifeydoodle isn’t my native tongue but I’m usually pretty good at getting the gist
I can see where it would be hard for a deaddud to ‘get’ a lifeyanything.
Kinda like trying to make a stone ‘get’ love.
That is at the sole discretion of the left. Humanity can be bestowed and taken away on a whim.
No, feets. You have NEVER gotten the gist.
have too
<pats his pointy yellow head>
Of cooooourse you have. Lo-o-o-o-ots of times.
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OK, I’ll give you a chance (in vain, I’m confident): Tell us what the prolife position is.
Heh. Not surprising ‘feets doesn’t get that soulful life begins at conception, since his life is but a blue pill chased by mad dog 2020 abstraction.
I had little interest in the abortion debate, I was a legal and rare believer. However, as younger and younger premature babies survived, I do not see how you cannot re-examine your beliefs.
Who denies science here?
I always found it confounding that the same law (that is, U.S. law) can compell doctors to save a preemie, charge someone killing a pregnant woman with two murders, and yet allow abortions after 12 weeks. Promote it even.
I’ve had to conclude our civil society is as sick as our republic.
There’s no doubt correlation there, but we social conservatives are to shut up and submit like good little worker bees.
Good god, SEK states the videos are a hoax.
If they were flat-out hoaxes—if the putative PP doctors were actors—that could have been debunked in a trice.
By PP.
Definitively.
It’s simple Lee, if it’s legal, then it’s moral and good.
Like slavery.
Until it isn’t.
Like slavery.
Isn’t that easy peasy lemon squeezy?
Fresh squeezed over shaved ice because it’s damn hot in the windy city in August and one needs must do something to take one’s mind off of the failshittery.
bgbear
I now believe the “legal and rare” schtick was just that. I’ve considered myself a reluctant pro-choice and always held at least we could all agree that convenience abortions were immoral …
Boy howdy, but the “be proud of your abortion” meme sure disabused me of any illusions of what pro-aborts are really doing.
That ain’t lemon, Ernst.
Thinking about it, I believe I’ve found the solution to my confoundment. Confoundation? I don’t know.
Anyway, it has to be for a deaddud that human life exists only if it has value. If a mother, of all people, doesn’t place value on their beating baby’s heart, it does not achieve human status. It is but a mistaken growth.
This, of course, correlates to their ideology; that human life is only worthy of being human if it serves their ideology, and if life has to die to serve their ideology, then that is where the value of the human life is found.
Life in and of itself has no value to deadduds like hf.
i used to have this girlfriend known as elsie
Agree, Darleen, that loud and proud hurt my ears.
“Libertarian” talk show host Gene Burns (I think he is dead now) here in SF always liked to say “if men got pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament”. Gene, it has become a sacrament to the left.
If men got pregnant and still held the same concept of ‘men’, there would be no abortion. The Unicorn Prince would sprinkle fairy dust on all conceptions.
Answer the question, feets. What is the prolife position?
If men got pregnant then men would be women, and presumably, women would be men. So all we have done is replace one noun for another, proving nothing.
Typical nonsensical progressive speech.
i do not wish to answer that question at this time Mr. W
i been typing and typing all day and i want a diet red bull so I’m a go get one
In other words, you’re utterly full of shit.
ok i’m back
i still feel like that’s a boring and lame question
i’m very very pro-life you know
but monkey pickle tuna fish salad this whole PP thing’s turned into such a melodramatic joke
it’ll pass though
like with gosnell remember that one
normal people just aren’t obsessed with this stuff for days on end
ob la di
and
ob la da
and bam people get their perspective back
the important thing for most people is looking after themselves and the people they love
it’s all-consuming really for a lot of people
oh my goodness my super best friend from college had to hit me up for monies this week
his whole life’s a train wreck right now poor kid
god bless america you gotta keep your eye on what’s important for so you put your energies where you can do the most good
and that is the pro-life perspective you are welcome
So, anybody think the Rockies have a shot at the playoffs this season?
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You are a liar and a fool, feets. It doesn’t end well for liars and fools.
I take no pleasure in that thought.
It’s a matter of perspective near as I can tell McGehee.
I still don’t see why I have to pay for it.
yes this was a good opportunity to cut spendings but remember Mr. bear
bread bags just wants to move the spendings around
that is not value
“So, anybody think the Rockies have a shot at the playoffs this season? ”
Not if the Bullwinkles keep holding ’em back.
but how likely is that really
How can I forget, you keep repeating it. It is a different issue.
but it’s the issue that counts
wretchedly poor and dissipated slovenly hyper-indebted whorestates (think puerto rico)
they do not have the luxury of these sorts of angsty and melodramatic lifeydoodle bonk-a-donks
they have to focus on looking after themselves and the people they love
Sanger to the rescue, eh?
Life will get better for all if these poor slovenly wretches just abort, abort, abort. Later on, after the lifeydoodles aren’t around to do the caring anymore, we can GMO all the hyperwhoreslutter races to our perfection specifications. And then we can love all the peoples.
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