That a jeweler politely served a lesbian couple, making custom engagement rights for them wasn’t enough. Once they found out he was a Christian (gasp!) who personally believed in the real definition of marriage (horrors!), then let the hate and death threats begin …
The couple now believes the rings they ordered will have been tainted by having been fashioned by jeweler Esau Jardon’s hands, given what impure thoughts he holds in his mind. More:
Jardon said he won’t apologize for his beliefs.
“I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, ‘Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,’” he said.
“When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don’t have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada… and we accept the whole package… I don’t discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it’s in my own business.”
But, after dealing with online bullying and threats, Jardon decided this week to refund the deposit to the couple:
“One of the reasons my family chose to move to Canada was the rights that it offered, the freedom of religion and freedom of speech, both of which at the time seemed to be very limited in Mexico,” he said.
“However, due to posting our religious beliefs, many people in Newfoundland want us to shut down business — that’s what they’ve been telling us.”
He said some threats came with names and others were anonymous.
“One of them states that ‘you better give them the money back or you will be very, very sorry,’” he said.
Let’s understand what happened here. This Christian jeweler agreed to custom-make engagement rings for a lesbian couple, knowing that they were a couple, and treated them politely. But when they found out what he really believed about same-sex marriage, even though the man gave them polite service, and agreed to sell them what they asked for, the lesbian couple balked, and demanded their money back — and the mob threatened the business if they didn’t yield.
thanks to John Bradley
havel
>The post-totalitarian system touches people at every step, but it does so with its ideological gloves on. This is why life in the system is so thoroughly permeated with hypocrisy and lies: government by bureaucracy is called popular government; the working class is enslaved in the name of the working class; the complete degradation of the individual is presented as his ultimate liberation; depriving people of information is called making it available; the use of power to manipulate is called the public control of power, and the arbitrary abuse of power is called observing the legal code; the repression of culture is called its development; the expansion of imperial influence is presented as support for the oppressed; the lack of free expression becomes the highest form of freedom; farcical elections become the highest form of democracy; banning independent thought becomes the most scientific of world views; military occupation becomes fraternal assistance. Because the regime is captive to its own lies, it must falsify everything. It falsifies the past. It falsifies the present, and it falsifies the future. It falsifies statistics. It pretends not to possess an omnipotent and unprincipled police apparatus. It pretends to respect human rights. It pretends to persecute no one. It pretends to fear nothing. It pretends to pretend nothing.
Individuals need not believe all these mystifications, but they must behave as though they did, or they must at least tolerate them in silence, or get along well with those who work with them. For this reason, however, they must live within a lie. They need not accept the lie. It is enough<
Talking Heads – Talking Heads: 77 [Full Album]
> }Why in fact did our greengrocer have to put his loyalty on display in the shop window? Had he not already displayed it sufficiently in various internal or semipublic ways? At trade union meetings, after all, he had always voted as he should. He had always taken part in various competitions. He voted in elections like a good citizen. He had even signed the “antiCharter.” Why, on top of all that, should he have to declare his loyalty publicly? After all, the people who walk past his window will certainly not stop to read that, in the greengrocer’s opinion, the workers of the world ought to unite. The fact of the matter is, they don’t read the slogan at all, and it can be fairly assumed they don’t even see it. If you were to ask a woman who had stopped in front of his shop what she saw in the window, she could certainly tell whether or not they had tomatoes today, but it is highly unlikely that she noticed the slogan at all, let alone what it said.
{12}It seems senseless to require the greengrocer to declare his loyalty publicly. But it makes sense nevertheless. People ignore his slogan, but they do so because such slogans are also found in other shop windows, on lampposts, bulletin boards, in apartment windows, and on buildings; they are everywhere, in fact. They form part of the panorama of everyday life. Of course, while they ignore the details, people are very aware of that panorama as a whole. And what else is the greengrocer’s slogan but a small component in that huge backdrop to daily life?
{13}The greengrocer had to put the slogan in his window, therefore, not in the hope that someone might read it or be persuaded by it, but to contribute, along with thousands of other slogans, to the panorama that everyone is very much aware of. This panorama, of course, has a subliminal meaning as well: it reminds people where they are living and what is expected of them. It tells them what everyone else is doing, and indicates to them what they must do as well, if they don’t want to be excluded, to fall into isolation, alienate themselves from society, break the rules of the game, and risk the loss of their peace and tranquility and security. . . .
{14}Let us now imagine that one day something in our greengrocer snaps and he stops putting up the slogans merely to ingratiate himself. He stops voting in elections he knows are a farce. He begins to say what he really thinks at political meetings. And he even finds the strength in himself to express solidarity with those whom his conscience commands him to support. In this revolt the greengrocer steps out of living within the lie. He rejects the ritual and breaks the rules of the game. He discovers once more his suppressed identity and dignity. He gives his freedom a concrete significance. His revolt is an attempt to live within the truth. . . .
{15}The bill is not long in coming. He will be relieved of his post as manager of the shop and transferred to the warehouse. His pay will be reduced. His hopes for a holiday in Bulgaria will evaporate. His children’s access to higher education will be threatened. His superiors will harass him and his fellow workers will wonder about him. Most of those who apply these sanctions, however, will not do so from any authentic inner conviction but simply under pressure from conditions, the same conditions that once pressured the greengrocer to display the official slogans. They will persecute the greengrocer either because it is expected of them, or to demonstrate their loyalty, or simply as part of the general panorama, to which belongs an awareness that this is how situations of this sort are dealt with, that this, in fact, is how things are always done, particularly if one is not to become suspect oneself. The executors, therefore, behave essentially like everyone else, to a greater or lesser degree: as components of the post-totalitarian system, as agents of its automatism, as petty instruments of the social auto-totality.
{16}Thus the power structure, through the agency of those who carry out the sanctions, those anonymous components of the system, will spew the greengrocer from its mouth. The system, through its alienating presence in people, will punish him for his rebellion. It must do so because the logic of its automatism and self-defense dictate it. The greengrocer has not committed a simple, individual offense, isolated in its own uniqueness, but something incomparably more serious. By breaking the rules of the game, he has disrupted the game as such. He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered the world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system. He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer has addressed the world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything. There are no terms whatsoever on which it can co-exist with living within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies it in principle and threatens it in its entirety. . . .
{17}The original and most important sphere of activity, one that predetermines all the others, is simply an attempt to create and support the independent life of society as an articulated expression of living within the truth. In other words, serving truth consistently, purposefully, and articulately, and organizing this service. This is only natural, after all: if living within the truth is an elementary starting point for every attempt made by people to oppose the alienating pressure of the system, if it is the only meaningful basis of any independent act of political import, and if, ultimately, it is also the most intrinsic existential source of the “dissident” attitude, then it is difficult to imagine that even manifest “dissent” could have any other basis than the service of truth, the truthful life, and the attempt to make room for the genuine aims of life.
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“We are a bakery, not a catering service.”
“We sell rings, but not wedding rings.”
“The customer is always right. Once.”
While newrouter offers an literary comment I assume suggests his general opinion on the subject, given my usual position on the general topic, I thought I should at least comment.
It’s Canada. Steyn had to defend his freedom of speech. Telling someone you hate them could get you arrested…probably would. That said, I’d hate to recommend violence, but at some point people will have to say enough is enough. To most of the people here, ‘racist’ has no power anymore because it was used as a ‘shut the f* up’ replacement. And most of us have explicitly told such wielders to ‘stick it up their a*’.
I would stand anywhere in San Diego in front of any business that was treated like Memories Pizza to support them. If 1000 people did so, THAT kind of support is hard to ignore – yes, I know the media ignores the Right to Life march size. But, if you want things to change then 10 for their side has to be met with 1000 for our side. 100 for their side has to be met with 10,000 on ours. Otherwise, two people can bring the wrath of the internet hordes down upon people ELECTRONICALLY….
the idiot jeweler was within his rights to put up his stupid signs and the puerile canadian lesbians were within their rights to ask for a refund
jeweler boy shoulda had the courage of his convictions and said no refund for you, puerile canadian lesbians
but now he wants to whine whine whine cause people don’t like his sign
he jacked up his own business cause a lot of people don’t want to buy stuff from trashy bigots
which is fine that’s his right
good luck with that, moron
Speaking of morons…
pickle pickle pickle
Troll.
May the anonymous thugs demanding total adherence to the approved narrative soon reap a bountiful harvest from the seed they sow.
“It’s Canada.”
Well, Canada is moving South.
Brendan Eich was unavailable for comment.
“people don’t want to buy stuff from trashy bigots”
You’re quite correct. I wouldn’t buy anything from you.
i had hummingbird cake today
cause of it was cake day
and it was spectacular
Did you first quiz the cake vendor to make sure he thought only approved thoughts?
putting up strange and offensive signage that doesn’t speak to the core value proposition of your business is stupid
this is why when you go into like a Wendy’s you’ll find a lot of pictures of tasty foozles for example hamburgers
this is why when you go into Nordstrom’s you see pictures of people looking relaxed and fabulous while wearing fashionable clothings with tasteful accessories
this is why when you go into a car dealership you see pictures of shiny cars that go vroom vroom vroom
you feel me Mr. Bascom I know you do
these is my cake friends in chicago
this place is really special
I heart happypicklelicker’s newfound comma!
i’m parsimonious with commas
as most of your stalwart conservatives are wont to be
waste not want not don’t you know
That’s the difference between a big corporate business and a small private business. Burger king don’t get my business anymore because of their gay pride whopper, which is the exception that proves the rule.
My local pizza maker now, they have posters up of the HS soccer team cuz of their kids play soccer. I like to eat there though, despite my strong feelings that soccer is gay.
Sometimes ya just gotta roll with the punches…
yes yes you have to spend your monies where you feel good about it
this is so essential
this is why I go a lot to the liquor store of sadness when i want some wine even though they have crappy wine
it’s in my hood though and the owners have had a really hard time of it
they lost their boy in some kind of boating accident and gotten robbed a couple times and then they had some issue with the city and closed up for awhile
and so i like to go there for my wine
their cheese is just execrable though
putting up strange and offensive signage
So pro-marriage is offensive.
Oh my, griefer, you’ve really swallowed the Leftist dogma that gender is a myth (but orientation is at birth)
you can be pro-marriage and still think it’s ok for gay people to get married
i’m so pro-marriage I can’t even tell you
i don;t get about the gender thing
i think Ts are weirdos who don’t belong with Ls and Gs and Bs
they’re a whole different flavor of pop tarts, them trannies
*don’t* get I mean
He probably also feels it’s right to outlaw hetro therapy for gays while supporting gender reassignment for kids.
Cuz of the pro perv inclinations proggs are burdened with…
SSM is like vegetarian beef. It ain’t real.
And you can be pro-marriage and the belief that regardless of law, same-sex couples are fundamentally different than opposite-sex couples.
aka reality
That’s not h8, not offensive and not worthy of death threats. The intolerant haters here are you & your fascist ilk.
yes yes same-sex couples are fundamentally different than opposite-sex couples
which is not to say same-sex couples shouldn’t be able to get married
the idea that gay people shouldn’t be able to get married is outlandish
I guess Esau just needs to keep his beliefs in the closet and everything should be OK for him.
Why are you still paying attention to that little yellow turd?
I’m going to ignore your dyspeptic twaddle you know why?
cause of it’s a holiday!
it was cake day and PLUS it’s a holiday!
i’m livin the vida loca
Same sex couples CAN get married. Just not to each other. That requires someone of the opposite sex. Otherwise it’s not marriage, it’s a perversion of marriage.
you’re very rigid Mr. Bascom
Emote to the hand.
In the franchise chain of Lil’ Barry’s Halal Charnel House and Serve-Yourself-Meaterias the idea of homos tossed off high buildings to be subsequently lapidated is de minimis. In the view of his progressive brethren, for such-like ideas alone that brave entrepreneur of carnage, dear Lil’ Barry!, is esteemed of right a grand Nobel Peace Prize recipient. O what a foursquare and beautiful world.
Acceptance not enough, boycott is not enough, must have total submission and penance.
I don’t even have that kind of total submission between Mrs. Bear and myself. Makes you wonder what kind of spouses these people would make.
You must love Merlot exactly the same amount as I do!
people that any concept of self love – and I am not speaking of narcissism – need constant reinforcing of their ….everything…. and react violently when faced with anyone or anything that fails to give them that reinforcement. I’d pity them if they weren’t such a threat to liberty. And at some point in our lives we have to stand up for our beliefs, not just posting anonymously as most do here and elsewhere online, but out in the REAL WORLD…a place the Left thinks it owns and knows but fails on both counts.
Where trod the Nain
Old stones were smoothed and set
Like gems in argent
And edge to edge all met.
Unrivaled towers loomed
‘Neath Heaven’s chin.
The depths they guard
To crown the craft within.
Upon yon alsmit
Many wonders were
With cunning crafted
By fingers stout and sure.
An age hath not seen
Nor ever shall again
Glories to rival
Where trod the peerless Nain.
>and react violently when faced with anyone or anything that fails to give them that reinforcement. <
#isisisislam
The last time I could expect to encounter SJW types with any frequency (other than online, of course) was when I was still slogging after my bachelor’s degree, back in the ’80s — unless they just don’t present their SJWness to me in meatspace.
Given that I kind of telegraph a “Check your drama” attitude, that wouldn’t surprise me.
Yeah, SJW types are pretty meek until they form a mob. Is why individualality ain’t big in the collective.
“this is why when you go into like a Wendy’s you’ll find a lot of pictures of tasty foozles for example hamburgers”
That’s all you will find in a Chick-fil-a as well, but the self-righteous at John Hopkins believe that the personal views of the deceased founder were just too outrageous to allow anyone on their campus to Eat Mor Chikin.
On campus they seem to assume everyone except the immediate target of their wrath is in their corner — and anyone who isn’t, had better pretend to be or they’ll have what he’s having, good and hard.
Which is kind of hard to sell when the target is laughing in her face.
I may be at least partially responsible for the “THAT’S NOT FUNNY!” meme…
omg they have the best biscuits
chik fil a does
even better than grandy’s
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i’m not even kidding
the tasty yellow “let it mellow brown flush it down”
go jerry!!11!!
microaggression @1977
Talking Heads – Talking Heads: 77
>So many people have their problems
I’m not interested in their problems
I guess I’ve experienced some problems
But now I’ve made some decisions
It takes a lot of time to push away the nonsense
Take my compassion, push it as far as it goes
My interest level’s dropping, my interest level is dropping
I’ve heard all I want to and I don’t want to hear anymore
What are you in love with your problems?
I think you take it a little too far
It’s not so cool to have so many problems
But don’t expect me to explain your indecisions
Go talk to your analyst, isn’t that what they’re paid for?
You, you walk, you talk, you still function like you used to
It’s not a question of your personality or style
Be a little more selfish, it might do you some good
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havel ’77
>The specific nature of post-totalitarian conditions-with their absence of a normal political life and the fact that any farreaching political change is utterly unforeseeable-has one positive aspect: it compels us to examine our situation in terms of its deeper coherences and to consider our future in the context of global, long-range prospects of the world of which we are a part. The fact that the most intrinsic and fundamental confrontation between human beings and the system takes place at a level incomparably more profound than that of traditional politics would seem, at the same time, to determine as well the direction such considerations will take.
Our attention, therefore, inevitably turns to the most essential matter: the crisis of contemporary technological society as a whole, the crisis that Heidegger describes as the ineptitude of humanity face to face with the planetary power of technology. Technology-that child of modern science, which in turn is a child of modern metaphysics-is out of humanity’s control, has ceased to serve us, has enslaved us and compelled us to participate in the preparation of our own destruction. And humanity can find no way out: we have no idea and no faith, and even less do we have a political conception to help us bring things back under human control. We look on helplessly as that coldly functioning machine we have created inevitably engulfs us, tearing us away from our natural affiliations (for instance, from our habitat in the wid~ est sense of that word, including our habitat in the biosphere) just as it removes us from the experience of Being and casts us into the world of “existences.” This situation has already been described from many different angles and many individuals and social groups have sought, often painfully, to find ways out of it (for instance, through oriental thought or by forming communes). The only social, or rather political, at~ tempt to do something about it that contains the necessary element of universality (responsibility to and for the whole) is the desperate and, given the turmoil the world is in, fading voice of the ecological movement, and even there the attempt is limited to a particular notion of how to use technology to oppose the dictatorship of technology.
“Only a God can save us now,” Heidegger says, and he em~ phasizes the necessity of “a different way of thinking,” that is, of a departure from what philosophy has been for centuries, and a radical change in the way in which humanity understands itself, the world, and its position in it. He knows no way out and all he can recommend is “preparing expectations.”
Various thinkers and movements feel that this as yet unknown way out might be most generally characterized as a broad “existential revolution:’ I share this view, and I also share Ihe opinion that a solution cannot be sought in some technological sleight of hand, that is, in some external proposal for change, or in a revolution that is merely philosophical, merely social, merely technological, or even merely political. These are all areas where the consequences of an existential revolution can and must be felt; but their most intrinsic locus can only be human existence in the profoundest sense of the word. It is only from that basis that it can become a generally ethical-and, of course, ultimately a political-reconstitution of society.
What we call the consumer and industrial (or postindustrial) society, and Ortega y Gasset once understood as “the revolt of the masses,” as well as the intellectual, moral, political, and social misery in the world today: all of this is perhaps merely an aspect of the deep crisis in which humanity, dragged helplessly along by the automatism of global technological civilization, finds itself.
The post-totalitarian system is only one aspect-a particularly drastic aspect and thus all the more revealing of its real origins-of this general inability of modern humanity to be the master of its own situation. The automatism of the posttotalitarian system is merely an extreme version of the global automatism of technological civilization. The human failure that it mirrors is only one variant of Ihe general failure of modern humanity.
This planetary challenge to the position of human beings in the world is, of course, also taking place in the Western world, the only difference being the social and political forms it takes- Heidegger refers expressly to a crisis of democracy. There is no real evidence that Western democracy, thac is, democracy of the traditional parliamentary type, can offer solutions that are any more profound. It may even be said Ihat the more room there is in the Western democracies (compared to our world) for the genuine aims of life, the better the crisis is hidden from people and the more deeply do they become immersed in it.
It would appear that the traditional parliamentary democ racies can offer no fundamental opposition to the automatism of technological civilization and the industrial-cousumer society, for they, too, are being dragged helplessly along by it. People are manipulated in ways that are infinitely more subtle and refined than the brutal methods used in the posttotalitarian societies. But this static complex of rigid, conceptually sloppy, and politically pragmatic mass political parties run by professional apparatuses and releasing the citizen from all forms of concrete and personal responsibility; and those complex focuses of capital accumulation engaged in secret manipulations and expansion; the omnipresent dictatorship of consumption, production, advertising, commerce, consumer culture, and all that flood of information: all of it, so often analyzed and described, can only with great difficulty be imagined as the source of humanity’s rediscovery of itsel^ In his June 1978 Harvard lecture, Solzhenitsyn describes the illusory nature of freedoms not based on personal responsibility and the chronic inability of the traditional democracies, as a result, to oppose violence and totalitarianism. In a democracy, human beings may enjoy many .personal freedoms and securities that are unknown to us, but in the end they do them no good, for they too are ultimately victims of the same automatism, and are incapable of defending their concerns about their own identity or preventing their superficialization or transcending concerns about their own personal survival to become proud and responsible members of the polis, making a genuine contribution to the creation of its destiny.
Because all our prospects for a significant change for the better are very long range indeed, we are obliged to take note of this deep crisis of traditional democracy. Certainly, if conditions were to be created for democracy in some countries in the Soviet bloc (although this is becoming increasingly improbable), it might be an appropriate transitional solution that would help to restore the devastated serise of civic awareness, to renew democratic discussion, to allow for the crystallization of an elementary political plurality, an essential expression of the aims of life. But to cling to the notion of traditional parliamentary democracy as one’s political ideal and to succumb to the illusion that only this tried and true form is capable of guaranteeing human beings enduring dignity and an independent role in society would, in my opinion, be at the very least shortsighted.
I see a renewed focus of politics on real people as something far more profound than merely returning to the everyday mechanisms of Western (or, if you like, bourgeois) democracy. In rg68, I felt that our problem could be solved by forming an opposition party that would compete publicly for power with the Communist Party. I have long since come to realize, however, that it isjust not that simple and that no opposition party in and of itself,just as no new electoral laws in and of themselves, could make society proof against some new form of violence. No “dry” organizational measures in themselves can provide that guarantee, and we would be hardpressed to find in them that God who alone can save us.
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>Harvard’s motto is “VERITAS.” Many of you have already found out, and others will find out in the course of their lives, that truth eludes us if we do not concentrate our attention totally on it’s pursuit. But even while it eludes us, the illusion of knowing it still lingers and leads to many misunderstandings. Also, truth seldom is pleasant; it is almost invariably bitter. There is some bitterness in my today’s speech too, but I want to stress that it comes not from an adversary, but from a friend.
Three years ago in the United States I said certain things which at that time appeared unacceptable. Today, however, many people agree with what I then said.
The split in today’s world is perceptible even to a hasty glance. Any of our contemporaries readily identifies two world powers, each of them already capable of entirely destroying the other. However, understanding of the split often is limited to this political conception: that danger may be abolished through successful diplomatic negotiations or by achieving a balance of armed forces. The truth is that the split is a much [more] profound [one] and a more alienating one, that the rifts are more than one can see at first glance. This deep manifold split bears the danger of manifold disaster for all of us, in accordance with the ancient truth that a kingdom — in this case, our Earth — divided against itself cannot stand.<
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Short of violence, the mob has no power over me…I don’t care. I would stand in front of the SJW bints and accuse them of bigotry, INjustice, INtolerance and INsanity…
So. I guess it’s nice to know that in the latest revision to the Newspeak Dictionary, tolerance has ceased to mean “acceptance” and now means “approbation.”
I for one am glad that Big Brother has directed Minitrue to eliminate another useless Oldspeak word.. Doubtlessly this will help Ingsoc lead Oceania to victory over
EastasiaEurasiaEurasiaEastasiaQuestion for the Yellow Rodent:
Why is it that it’s okay for the lesbian couple to impose their beliefs on the jeweler when the jeweler made no effort to impose his upon them?
You’re a fan of Thor, SO ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION!
I’m trying to understand how the couple who went “Oh, you’re one of them? We don’t want your kind serving us…” and their baying supporters aren’t the trashy bigots of the piece.
I’ve said before that they’re eventually going to find to their sorrow that “you will be made to care” is not the same as “you will be made to like us” or “you will be made to be sympathetic to us”. This sort of thing just makes it more likely, and sooner rather than later.
i don’t see where the puerile canadian lesbians are imposing any believes on anyone Mr. Ernst
they just asked for their money back
and the goofball jeweler gave them their money back
done and done
he could have said nonono, puerile canadian lesbians
ALL SALES ARE FINAL
but he did not do that, probably cause of discretion is sometimes the better part of the valor
this is just one of those stories where you can’t relate to any of the characters cause they’re abysmally unfunny and stupid like the recently-renewed-for-a-fifth-season CBS “sitcom” 2 Broke Girls for example
a custom made piece is different than just off the rack merchandise.
yes yes it is
when Irish eyes are smiling all the lesbians they giggle
their thoughts are all of wooing
not of biting on a pickle
four legsbreach of contract because christophobia Goodtwo legsrefusal to contract business in the first place because “homophobia” Bad.because discretion is the better part of valor.
“i don’t see where the puerile canadian lesbians are imposing any believes on anyone Mr. Ernst”
Then you’re either stupid or a liar.
Which one is it?
how are the puerile canadian lesbians imposing believes on anybody’s heads exactly
they’re simply not that powerful
My vote is for stupid liar.
“discretion is the better part of valor” but they [the gay lobby] [a]re simply not that powerful.”
Minorities can never be bigoted you see. They simply don’t have the power to impose their views on anybody. All the best armchair marxist revolutionary wannabes hanging out in the student union say so.
you’re mean
Check your drama, hamster.
i’m too hungry
I do wonder at the power people have given such minorities. I have been trying to get Conservatives involved in politics for 7 years with little or no luck getting them off their computer chairs or out of their pews. Maybe my ‘message’ is wrong…individual rights being, so….individual and all. I am a strong arguer for individual rights, even when the majority – so often the claim it should be majority makes the rules – disagrees. However, when two people, or ten wag the tail of the country, even I have to wonder at the willingness of the majority to let them selves be swung to and fro like a rag doll in a dogs teeth. A couple million people showing up at Chik-fil-A, 3/4 million bucks showing up in a gofundme account, 100k in another….even the Oregon bakers got more orders than they could handle for months after they had lost business, all shows support for people after the fact.
I, like so many, commented on Indiana’s RFRA passage after the same-sex marriage passage in that state, but if I could get ANYONE to even remotely acknowledge that it had any connection in public… WHY THE HELL NOT? Of course the Left is going to give up it’s toothpick if the Conservatives are willing to hand them BATS! Every discussion on this blog in the last year is of examples WHY the RFRA’s are necessary but all anyone wants to say is ‘freedom of expression’ when it is clear it is an attempt to put some kind of brakes on the exact kind of shit these Jewelryers are facing. Everyone HERE argues it, in the safety of numbers…..
I don’t consider here to be the belly of the beast. I consider the people here to be much more in agreement with me than against me, though it often appears to be the opposite. But if you want to know when I do go to the belly of the beast, Karoli and I are friends….
Jeff has paid a significant price for his public stands and I respect the hell out of it.
Apparently you missed the part of the story where the two pervs rounded up the gay mafia and threatened the jewelers life.
That was for hf.
i know Mr. Lee he almost died
but on that fateful night he was smuggled out of the country on a midnight steamer to baltimore
oh he’s leaving
on that midnight steamer to baltimore
said he’s going back to find
a simpler place in time
and my thoughts and prayers go with him
nah, he just paid the extortion. We know of course you’re not nearly so cowardly, what with your anonymous internet heroics.
Hey, hear about that Zimmerman dude? Now HE almost died. Cuz of the mob after him. Mobs can be (and usually are) dangerous beasts.
mind your own biscuits and life will be gravy
You’re a silly, stupid, liar, and it’s been my pleasure to once again expose the fact.
i am magnificent
A thief who gets away with stealing your biscuits will be coming after mine next.
that is because he is a rapscallion
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He’s a hip-hop onion?
*burble-burble*