I concur. Even amongst the hard-core sociopaths that inhabit our max-security prisons, I’ve got to think that a weenie little foreigner that deliberately blows up an 8yr old boy and others is going to get a “woah dude, too far!” reality check — delivered with a sharpened toothbrush.
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An aside, and hardly an original one, but note how there are no guns in the prison population (only the ‘cops’ have guns), ergo our prisons must be super safe and not at all rapey and murdery. Probably very tolerant of gays and trannies, too. Someone should ask Bloomberg’s Mothers about that.
Sure, maybe capital punishment makes the government a State-sanctioned murderer. But then, life imprisonment makes the government a State-sanctioned gay dungeon master. — Dennis Miller
There is no death penalty in Massachusetts at the present time, and the terrorism angle allows for Federal intervention, since the Feds DO have capital punishment, regardless of where the crime occurred. It also reduces the number of appellate levels, since there is no State system to work through first, and Splodey-dope’s lawyer is sure to work every loophole he can. (At taxpayer expense, of course.)
Either that, or he’ll write (via a ghost author) a children’s book, and the Usual Suspects will be turning him into the next Mumia, demanding Obama commute his sentence. (I don’t think the President can pardon anyone for murder, since that is technically a State crime, and not “an offense against the United States”, although the terrorism charge might be eligible.) Although an appeal for a stay is not likely to gain much ground, since Massachusetts is in the First District, which gets routed to Chief Justice Roberts.
So there really is no reason other than MA let the feds bite first for any number of reasons (money would be a good one). I assume a state could push for their chance first if they desired.
Also interesting is that I think that means he was not convicted of murder per se but of conducting terrorist acts (that resulted in death etc). I believe McVeigh was convicted of murder since there were Federal employees killed.
Federal prosecution supersedes any State prosecution, just as Federal laws outrank State laws. I imagine that the Fed took over for several reasons, not least of which was the availability of the death penalty, plus the rules of evidence are somewhat looser in Federal Courts. Plus if an appeal for cert at the Supreme Court is made it shows up on CJ Roberts’ desk, rather than Ginsberg or Sotomayor.
(Not for nothing, but I expect Breyer (aged 76) and Ginsburg (aged 82) to retire in the next year or so, so that Obama can appoint their successors, rather than risk an electoral backlash, and have a conservative Republican elected, such as might happen if they waited for another term, and have the election “mid-season”, as it were. Sotomayor and Kagan are fairly young, so they can afford to wait for a while.)
I understand but, what I was thinking is that the crimes were different: terrorism (Federal) vs. murder (State). For Tsarnaev, the feds had no murder jurisdiction that I am aware of unless the Chinese citizen somehow triggered something.
A good reason to bring back the gallows. Ideally carried out in public.
I suspect, however, that Mr. Tsarnaev’s demise will be at the hands of another inmate, not unlike Jeffery Dahmer.
better that then becoming a cause celebre like Mumia.
I concur. Even amongst the hard-core sociopaths that inhabit our max-security prisons, I’ve got to think that a weenie little foreigner that deliberately blows up an 8yr old boy and others is going to get a “woah dude, too far!” reality check — delivered with a sharpened toothbrush.
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An aside, and hardly an original one, but note how there are no guns in the prison population (only the ‘cops’ have guns), ergo our prisons must be super safe and not at all rapey and murdery. Probably very tolerant of gays and trannies, too. Someone should ask Bloomberg’s Mothers about that.
Sure, maybe capital punishment makes the government a State-sanctioned murderer. But then, life imprisonment makes the government a State-sanctioned gay dungeon master. — Dennis Miller
Is there a reason the Feds get to prosecute first or is that just strategy?
There is no death penalty in Massachusetts at the present time, and the terrorism angle allows for Federal intervention, since the Feds DO have capital punishment, regardless of where the crime occurred. It also reduces the number of appellate levels, since there is no State system to work through first, and Splodey-dope’s lawyer is sure to work every loophole he can. (At taxpayer expense, of course.)
i can’t even belieber it
it looked like such a sweet guy on his Rolling Stone cover
He’ll be turning up on t-shirts any day now.
Hopefully they’ll put him on the Timothy McVeigh plan, otherwise he’s likely to die of old age.
I still don’t know how they managed to kill McVeigh so fast, or why it takes so long for everyone else.
Either that, or he’ll write (via a ghost author) a children’s book, and the Usual Suspects will be turning him into the next Mumia, demanding Obama commute his sentence. (I don’t think the President can pardon anyone for murder, since that is technically a State crime, and not “an offense against the United States”, although the terrorism charge might be eligible.) Although an appeal for a stay is not likely to gain much ground, since Massachusetts is in the First District, which gets routed to Chief Justice Roberts.
Tim McVeigh stopped making appeals in late 2000, and was put to death June 11, 2001.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/13/us/mcveigh-ends-appeal-of-his-death-sentence.html
So there really is no reason other than MA let the feds bite first for any number of reasons (money would be a good one). I assume a state could push for their chance first if they desired.
Also interesting is that I think that means he was not convicted of murder per se but of conducting terrorist acts (that resulted in death etc). I believe McVeigh was convicted of murder since there were Federal employees killed.
Federal prosecution supersedes any State prosecution, just as Federal laws outrank State laws. I imagine that the Fed took over for several reasons, not least of which was the availability of the death penalty, plus the rules of evidence are somewhat looser in Federal Courts. Plus if an appeal for cert at the Supreme Court is made it shows up on CJ Roberts’ desk, rather than Ginsberg or Sotomayor.
(Not for nothing, but I expect Breyer (aged 76) and Ginsburg (aged 82) to retire in the next year or so, so that Obama can appoint their successors, rather than risk an electoral backlash, and have a conservative Republican elected, such as might happen if they waited for another term, and have the election “mid-season”, as it were. Sotomayor and Kagan are fairly young, so they can afford to wait for a while.)
I understand but, what I was thinking is that the crimes were different: terrorism (Federal) vs. murder (State). For Tsarnaev, the feds had no murder jurisdiction that I am aware of unless the Chinese citizen somehow triggered something.