For immediate release:
In an effort to bring New Media sensibilities to bear on our growing lineup of original content, Pajamas Media™ is pleased to announce its newest venture, “Pajamas Media After Dark,” set to debut Jan 21, 2006 (10 PM EST)
This live webcast, streamed from our very own PJM portal, will feature Pajamas Media editorial board members and webcast hosts Michael Barone and David Corn* lounging in their PJs and talkin’ politics and pop-culture with exciting guests in a hip, relaxed atmosphere! Guests include:
Tea Leone - Jan 21
Kevin James - Jan 28
Bo Derek - Feb 4
Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes - Feb 11
The drummer from Spin Doctors - Feb 18
TBA - Feb 25
Famed radio talkshow host Dr Ruth - March 4
The San Diego Zoo’s Joan Embery (and friends!) - March 11We hope you’ll join us for some lively talk in a decidedly casual atmosphere. And remember—for best results, watch us in your PJs!
*Eleanor Clift will fill-in for the vacationing Mr Corn on Feb 18; don’t miss Eleanor’s live accoustic performance of “Little Miss Can’t Be Wrong,” sung while bouncing on a trampoline!
So, then. How you like us now, Ms Althouse?
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update: Ann Althouse again, now with more Pajamas Media posts!
I assume this will cost extra. Barone and Corn in PJ’s ain’t going to be given away free.
Eleanor Clift? That’s shove steel needles in your eyes and ears time.
What? No Pia Zadora? Jeez, Jeff Jarvis is right. You people suck.
Wow!
Next it’ll be the OSM after midnight visqueen & Mazzola party! Live from the padded room in the home office basement. But that’s strictly pay per view.
I’d pay to see a Pia Zadora interview where all the questions were about “Santa Claus Conquers the Martians”.
Gotta be some good stories there.
I buy stuff off the internet all the time. Pool tables, workout equipment, music, books, movies. Even a car once.
I have never once bought any product that I learned about from an ad on a blog. For that matter, I have only even clicked through the ad on two products in about three years of reading blogs: the t-shirt folks and that absinthe ad. I may—MAY—actually buy some absinthe.
I am curious—have any of Jeff’s readers ever actually purchased anything from a blog’s ad?
What the hell does Glenn see in this Althouse character and would anyone read her blog if he didn’t link to it incessantly?
Y’know, I have no idea what the hell this is supposed to be about. Absolu–wait…wait a minute…
Nope, still no idea.
What, the rimless glasses were booked already?
“After Dark”? Is this going to do the same thing to Pajamas Media that it did to Cinemax?
Pajamas? “After Dark”?
Is Hef gonna show up?
SB: attack
of the specious simile
Phil Smith, I’ve bought a lot of books and cds I’ve seen through blogs though it was always an Amazon associate type click through type deal. But then, books and cds are all I buy off the internet currently.
If this holds a Pajamas ad angle for you as you’re commenting on this post, I’d say I’m much more likely to buy something from a larger advertiser—though still probably from a store—if it was supporting writer’s I enjoy.
I’ll give you an example though it will mark me as a caveman. The UFC is a mixed martial art league and they’ve been growing rapidly as they’ve gone from small potatoes to fairly mainstream. As they’ve grown up, so have their advertisers. While I never was tempted to buy their old products, I’m seeing products advertised now that I might well purchase. Weird sports supplements, like they used to pitch? Not my bag. Aeonflux, the movie, their lastest sponsor? Yep, probably going to watch it
I’ve bought books recommended by bloggers. That’s about it.
But you bet I’ll be glued to the computer Jan 21. Remember “Flying Blind”? An entire TV show built around the fact that Tia Leoni’s beautiful. Concepts don’t come any purer then that.
I think someone’s trying to become the Greg Gutfeld of the Heh Indeed Post.
Yay! you’re live-blogging the parade? Say something good about the Underdog balloon.
Dude, her name’s Tea Leone! Can’t you Pajama/OSM facists do anything right? You’re just like the MSM! SELLOUTS!!!
Huh?
SeanH: Yes, Jeff spelled her name wrong. But you made it wronger.
Jeff,
Respectfully, I don’t see how this is good news. Nor do I understand how someone as smart as you doesn’t see this as well. Here is the business plan: bloggers like you are the commericials. The advertisements. You round up the listeners/readers. They watch a show of old media types. The big guys make the money. And you are a sucker. You are Pajamas Media’s ads. And you do it for free. (Or come at the cost of the difference between what you’ll make from them on ads and what you’d make with Blogads.) Now, you can rebut, a rising ship will bring me along. Maybe. Or maybe they’ll throw you overboard. But if it gives you satisfaction being linked to Barone/Corn, no matter how tangentially, then do continue. Althouse, for all her warts, ain’t a sucker. She ain’t an unpaid billboard for Simon and Corn. Ultimately, maybe there are better ways to promote the blogosphere. And you.
Well, one of us is a sucker, that’s for sure.
London, you start by saying “Respectfully” and then six sentences later you say “And you are a sucker.”
C’mon, is there any reason why we shouldn’t just call you a prick and then ignore you?
“[You] don’t see how this is good news”? How exactly can you see that it is news period? Put on your thinking cap and see where you make the mistake. Then come back and apologize for your low reading comprehension and bad manners.
Sorry, Jeff, I was just screwing around. Anti-Pajamas Media hysterics aren’t nearly as easy to mimic as anti-Bush hysterics I guess.
As a fan of both, I was hoping neither of you would be a sucker. Though it is surely too late for that. Anyway. Time has told, as they say at the graveyard.
London —
The post is a joke. There is no Pajamas Media After Dark.
Though let’s face it: nothing would be more exciting that seeing Barone and Corn bullshitting with Joan Embery and a ferret while sitting around in their sleepwear.
A lineup Larry King could only dream of.
“Respectfully, you’re a sucker.” Is that so harsh? I wasn’t meaning to be. I think Jeff is being used to drum up viewers for Barone and Corn. I think that is unfortunate.
Respectfully: given what I have read and with regards to your talent……
you’re a sucker: you are giving more to Charles/Simon than you’re getting.
A joke? Have you checked out Pajamas Media’s announcement page in the last two hours?
Dang. No one looked.
Here London, I’ll help you.
“Sorry, Jeff, I didn’t get that this was a joke. Sorry also to bore you and your audience with yet more Pajama bashing.”
Now cut and paste that and use the time I saved you to wonder why you feel like offering silly yet patronizing advice to strangers on the internet.
Wait, Pajamas has an announcements page?
Jeff,
Re: London.
For your information, next time you are supposed to tag the fish before throwing back in the water.
Otherwise, we’ll never learn where the lamers spawn.
I’ve yet to see a well-articulated argument about how constant criticism is protecting “the spirit of blogging”
I think it may be kind of like protecting State’s Rights, but without the Negro complication.
Well, since I believe Pajamas Media wouldn’t realize it was a copyright and trademark violation to stream an old Playboy compilation CD, I think it’s authentic…
Fuck this David Corn nonsense. I want Pamela and Sathy Seipp, or I ain’t watching.
TW: “feel”. I only wish.
Man. This is fun.
Man, I used to love Althouse, but the constant harping and whining is getting tedious. It’s one thing to criticise, it’s another to become so obsessed with something that you morph into a boring one-trick pony. These days I only visit her blog if someone interesting links to it.
What? There is no Pajamas After Dark?
I marked all those dates on my calendar in PEN, Jeff. Pen. Thanks a lot, my 2006 Year of Fabio calendar is now ruined.
Jeff, this seals it. You’re gonna have to do a podcast about aliens attacking with live updates from a variety of Pajamas Media sources from around the world.
This critic of OSM/PM has now renamed his blog three times: Open Source Don Surber; Don Surber’s Pajamas Media; and now, today, Don Surber After Hours.
Wonder where he got the idea for that last one?
Dr. Ruth?! Heck yeah!
After seeing the Quantum Leap Dr. Ruth episode, I love the gal.
Turing word, “past” as in, “Dr. Samuel Beckett travels through the past to set right what once went wrong, occasionally having to wear earrings, high heels, and ladies undergarments to do so.”
Oh, for pete’s sake:
If I had to make up a pompous, self-important blowhard, this is more or less what I’d come up with. Hopefully, anyway; my writing skillz are anything but mad.
I mean, good thing she pulled that punch, eh? She might have done you real harm. Come to think of it, Jeff, I haven’t heard from you in a while.
Jeff?
My response:
I see she responded already. Gawd, this woman has the issue confused with something important. I can see how she believes her notion of blogging utopia is inconsistent with what you’re doing, but why should we care? I mean, this is kind of a Dave Winer tirade she’s on.
And why do I care? Oh, I just discovered that I don’t. It’s a spectator sport, I guess.
Ann :
… as long as she can dictate how that expression occurs, of course. Sad. If she really values freedom of expression, she’d let people do with their “expressions” what the hell they want to do with it.
Anne (again) :
Or – here’s a radical thought – maybe Jeff agrees with “them”, like many of us, that Pajamas Media is a good idea?!?
Someone – anyone – please call an intervention on Ann. This is like the 8th grade all over again.
My latest reply:
Are you talking about the blogroll?—or the news items on the main page. Because under the news items I’ve seen links today to Think Progress and Kos, just to name two.
Actually, I get paid no matter what, according to the contract. And as for sparing them “mockery,” my first post about the enterprise was a fake liveblog that depicted Roger Simon as a wannabe hipster and Tim Blair as an angry drunk.
And today, I posted a piece introducing “Pajamas Media At Night”—which touted the ridiculous iminent spectacle of Michael Barone and David Corn, along with C-list guests, doing a live streaming webcast in their sleepwear.
How that is sparing them I have no idea. Are you sure you aren’t confusing “mockery” with incessant, self-important criticism?
Because what I haven’t done, however, is try to bury an enterprise that is a week old—mostly because it’s my opinion (and I’ve written on this) that it’s going to have to feel its way around for a niche. There’s no harm in that—bloggers do it all the time, and PJM is, when all is said in done, just another blog site, though it is looking for a way to advance the medium.
My guess is it will eventually do this, if it’s to be done, through local citizen journalism, widely linked carnivals and debates, liveblogs, and—eventually—multimedia that includes video and audio glossing of major events.
But then, maybe I’m just a dreamer.
Getting back to you, though, you say that “blogging is about freedom of expression and the free flow of expression. Pajamas does not reflect those most basic values.”
Howso? By aggregating opinion? Does Real Clear Politics express those values? Memeorandum? How is PJM not about freedom of expression, exactly? Because it has members contributors, like, say Volokh or Powerline?
Really, explain this to me.
And what does any of that have to do with the individual bloggers, who are under no obligation to change their content? I certainly haven’t. I simply gave PJM the permission to syndicate my stuff—which I would have written anyway—and place ads on my site.
My interest in PJM’s success is no different than was my interest in Huffington’s Toast—the parody site for which I wrote—except that this one is willing to pay me a bit more than I was making from blogads, and in exchange, it gets to use my content, which I’m hoping brings me new readers.
All of this is a violation of the spirit of blogging…how, exactly?
It kinda sucks that someone has to do it but I’m glad that this is getting Ann to say exactly how she feels.
Enough with her hinting around and innuendo. It’s off putting when an adult with her intellect plays coy.
Also, where I come from it’s considered bad taste to write something like, “Oh, by the way, have you member bloggers gotten the money yet? I don’t see the ads on Jeff’s site, so I’m guessing the money has not gone out. Why don’t you blog about that, Jeff? Because you’re yoked to their project.” People’s personal finances are a bit like their kids. Off-limits.
Good Lord almighty, Bill from INDC just let Ann have it with both barrels blazing. Sadly, I agree with everything Bill said. It’s not her criticism of Pajamas that gets my goat, it’s the way she’s going about it. And this really stinks because, aside from her perplexing crusade against PJM, she’s a great blogger. God, I wish she’d just take some time off and clear her head.
I responded anyway. I ain’t no law prof—hell, I’m just a poor country doctor—but I don’t shy away from a fight iffin’ I have RIGHTEOUSNESS on my side.
The lord will provide.
WOW! Somebody better take a screen shot of what Bill said. I’d like to see how she answers THAT! Yay for Bill.
Jeff, I just love your writing. Your site is my favorite on the net. I can get well thought out serious pieces, and also the most wonderfully whacky sense of humor I’ve ever run across. I stop in every night. And on those nights that I’ve had a stressful day, I read one of your crazy one or two liners, and then all the comments(some of the commenters are as funny as you are), and that stress just melts and I’m able to sleep peacefully. So thank you for that gift.
Ann :
Boy, there’s no way she wrote that with a straight face. I hope she knows that we can see her comments on her blog.
Funny, I ignore boring sites. That I believe would be a “normal” reaction to a “boring” site. Ann, on the other hand, posts about it all the time. In fact, I’d bet that half the traffic to PJM is Ann hitting the refresh button every few seconds hoping to find it’s no longer there.
Thanks for sparing us – and your credibility – more of “that sort of thing” Ann.
Ah yes, lest we forget – Roger L Simon hung up on Her Majesty. Actually, I now firmly believe that this is the sole motivation behind Ann’s adolescent rants.
You know, the irony here is that Ann claims that Jeff is being influenced by his association with PJM, but it is pretty obvious that PJM has had a far greater influence over Ann’s writing, than it did over Jeff’s.
Althouse writes:
It’s a little thing we call blogging. I’ll be the last holdout keeping that spirit alive, if necessary.
(Envisioning Ann defiantly clutching mouse in her clenched fist and shaking it at the sky, theme from Rocky rising.) In the UW school cafeteria when they run out of biscotti, I’ll bet she declares that as god is her witness, she’ll never be hungry again. That sister SO needs to get over herself.
On the one hand, she claims to object to PJM because it is dull and did not deliver as promised at launch. In the next breath, she is Joan verily risking the pyre to save the blogosphere from the invading capitalist heretics.
Yeah, yeah,I believe Roger Simon may have behaved unethically toward Dennis the Peasant. I even believe he may have been curt, or even rude, on the phone with Ann. But SO WHAT?
Trust me, dear Ann, the blogosphere will survive without your posting one more word about Roger or the PJM. And— however unrealistic this notion may strike her— it will survive even if PJM should succeed (and I don’t gavie a rat’s @ss whether it does or not). [eyes rolling]
I used to liker her blog. Now? Blech.
It’s called being an opening act. It’s not degrading, it’s paying your dues. And if you are going to try to climb the ladder it’s what you do. Well, unless you have big titties and are dating a record exec.
It looks to me like Ann fancies herself a punk rocker, and considers you a sell out for signing with a big label. You can’t turn pro and maintain any integrity, you know.
tw: moral-> anything this new is gonna have an abundance of dilletantes, after all
All I know about either Ann Althouse or PJM is what I read here. And, you know, elsewhere…