On the Ben Shapiro Show Thursday, Imam Anjem Choudary said the President Obama is “inventing” his own version of Islam to forward his foreign policy agenda and that the “radical” form Choudary espouses simply aligns with the principles of the Koran and Sharia Law.
Shapiro led into the segment by quoting from Choudary’s USA Today Jan. 8 opinion piece titled “People Know the Consequences,” which blamed the French government for allowing publications to “provoke Muslims” and argued that Muslims do not in fact believe in the freedom of expression:
Contrary to popular misconception, Islam does not mean peace but rather means submission to the commands of Allah alone. Therefore, Muslims do not believe in the concept of freedom of expression, as their speech and actions are determined by divine revelation and not based on people’s desires.
Shapiro then asked Choudary to discuss the Muslim view on the freedom of expression, specifically with regard to the Charlie Hebdo massacre. Choudary explained that Muslim scripture made clear that those who insult the Prophet, like journalists at Charlie Hebdo, must be punished: “Those who would insult the Prophet, kill them.” Sharia Law he said, clearly requires any who would insult those Muslims deem “prophets,” including Moses and Jesus, be tried in court and punished. This a system, he added, that Muslims are willing to “fight for and even die for.”
When Shapiro asked him if he believed that Western governments should ban the blasphemy of Mohammed, Choudary said he wanted Sharia Law in its entirety to be imposed on Western governments because it was a “better” system. However, if that were not possible, laws should be put in place against “provoking Muslims.” As he stressed in his article, Choudary said that killings like those Wednesday are “the consequence of insulting the Prophet.” […]
Pointing to the incompatibility of the Western and Sharia systems, Shapiro asked Choudary why the West should allow people like him to live in their boundaries. Choudary said he was born in England so he had the right to live there, and that “people always change” and “change is good,” so he believed that it was time for the West to change.
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Related — via eCurmudgeon
Hate speech is not “freedom” in any way, shape, or form, and those who attempt to describe it as such are doing a great deal of harm to the cause of freedom. […]
The American Civil Rights Act is the only anti-discrimination law in the world that does not outlaw hate speech. In all other countries, it’s simply assumed that any anti-discrimination law – even the most basic and bare-bones one – would outlaw any discriminatory expressions. Indeed, international human rights law establishes very clearly that any expression of ideas based on racial superiority or hatred is illegal racial discrimination. This is not a controversial or disputed thing. It is considered a basic obligation for any free and democratic country to outlaw hate speech. The US is the only country in the world that rejects this. […]
We can see from the recent massacre at hate speech magazine Charlie Hebdo‘s headquarters in France what can happen as a result of hate speech – in this case, the magazine had a long history of inciting racial and religious hatred and violence, particularly against Muslims. The same thing happened – on an even larger scale – when the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten published cartoons inciting racist hatred and violence against Muslims. The United Nations, the Council of Europe, and countless human rights groups have repeatedly stressed that countries like France and Denmark need to pass and enforce much stricter legislation against all forms of hate speech and discrimination, but those countries refused to listen and, as a result, they experienced the consequences of allowing hate speech and discrimination to flourish. Words and images do have consequences, and those consequences can often be fatal for many innocent people. […]
Immediately after the recent terrorist attack happened in France, the hashtag #KillAllMuslims started trending on Twitter. In civilized countries, this violates numerous laws against incitement to racist hatred, violence, murder, and genocide. Human rights activists all over the world expressed their strong outrage and sought to have governments force Twitter to ban the hashtag along with seeking to have anyone using the hashtag jailed. But it’s incredibly difficult to protect human rights on the Internet when the United States controls most of the Internet. Twitter is a US website, so human rights groups were unable to have the US government force Twitter to remove the hashtag since it falls under America’s ridiculously twisted and backwards notion of “free speech”. The United States is literally allowing people to openly and publicly incite genocide against minorities in the name of “free speech”. How can the US possibly call itself a civilized country when it allows this?
@primatemachine @amitabalaji @PeterTatchell @blancmarc20 Hebdo not only incited violence, but violence HAPPENED as a result of incitement.
— Tanya Cohen (@xTanyaCohenx) January 10, 2015
Submission, indeed.
The barbarians are at the gates. We best not make them angry. Submit!
“change is good”
Yes, well, good change is good, whereas bad change is bad. The trick is in the distinguishing.
The longer we wait to respond, the more deadly our response will have to be.
The question is not if anyone is going to be killed, it’s how many millions will have to be killed. The more our government continues to submit, the more people will have to die. The longer they wait, the higher the death toll will be right here at home.
With ClownDisaster’s pronouncement of the words “The future does not belong to those who slander the Prophet if Islam” the surrender of the United States was complete.
That too can change, of course, but is by no means a guaranteed thing, even after the MoronInChief has been dispatched to tending to his growing monetary fortune.
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Our foreign policy can change with every new president. I haven’t completely given up hope. That can wait until I see who gets selected to captain the Titanic next.
Mock them both, Progressives and Islamists, good and hard, but keep yourself armed to defend you and yours. This will be a long war.
Since “people always change” and “change is good”, Choudary should have no problem with changing Islam to be a less bloodthirsty ideology.
Dominance and Submission
If hate speech and inciteful text are banned, the Qur’an would necessarily be the first to go. Few texts exist that have such a bloody and destructive history. #ReformIslamNOW!, beginning with a forced rewrite of the Qur’an.
Else later generations, perhaps less tolerant than ours, will have to eliminate the threat that the Qur’an presents to all of the human species.
on your feet or on your knees
or
soft white underbelly
The always outspoken Ayaan Hirsi Ali…
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/08/ayaan-hirsi-ali-our-duty-is-to-keep-charlie-hebdo-alive.html
*** “They picked them up by their arms and legs and held them over the brick furnace until their clothes caught fire. And then they threw them [alive] inside the furnace.” — Javeed Maseeh, family spokesman, concerning a Christian couple in Pakistan murdered on rumors they had burned verses from the Qur’an. ***
#koranishatespeech
drink shitwater w/ billgates ‘n melinda like a goddamn american why don’t ya
it’s not like obama ain’t pezzydent
DRINK it
stop talking just drink
shut the fuck up and drink the shitwater
It’s true though, the West must change. It must stop assuming its antagonists can be reasoned with or appeased. It must renounce the impulse of paying the Danegeld. It must accept that it still faces an existential threat that can only come down to annihilation of one side or the other.
It doesn’t matter that we do not wish to be at war with Islam, if Islam is already at war with us. The planet isn’t big enough anymore for the both of us.
By the way, in this context “clash of civilizations” is and has always been bullshit. This is a clash between civilization and its opposite.
>This is a clash between western civilization and its opposite.<
It’s a clash between western civilization and the opposite of all civilization.
you need a straw?
ok fine i bring you a straw
brb
>This is a clash between western civilization and its opposite.< – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=55894#comment-1200619 SEE MORE SEE MORE
bull and also shit
western civ used to have self-confidence
you know – like fonzie
**** Maiduguri (Nigeria) (AFP) – Two explosions rocked northeast Nigeria on Saturday, including one by a female suicide bomber thought to be just 10 years old who blew herself up in a crowded market, as the US condemned a bloody spike in Boko Haram violence.
At least 19 people were killed at the Monday Market in the Borno State capital, Maiduguri, at about 12:40 pm (1140 GMT) when it was packed with shoppers and traders.
Hours later, a suspicious vehicle that had been stopped at a checkpoint outside the city of Potiskum, in neighbouring Yobe, exploded at a police station as its driver was being taken in for questioning.
A police officer accompanying the car and the driver were killed, an officer said. Potiskum has been a repeated target for militant violence.
Both blasts came a week after a major Boko Haram attack on the fishing town of Baga in northern Borno State, which is believed to be the worst in the bloody six-year insurgency.
The town and at least 16 nearby settlements in and around Lake Chad were burnt to the ground and at least 20,000 people forced to flee their homes.
“For five kilometres (three miles), I kept stepping on dead bodies until I reached Malam Karanti village, which was also deserted and burnt,” one survivor, fisherman Yanaye Grema, said.
But there was no independent corroboration of the huge numbers of dead cited locally.
The US State Department said Boko Haram’s recent escalation of attacks on civilians “shows no regard for human life” and called for those responsible to be brought to justice.
“The United States abhors such violence, which continues to take a terrible toll on the people of Nigeria and the broader region, including Cameroon,” it added. ****
It Can’t Happen Here
Western civilization failed to jump the shar…
Fonzie at least passed into obscureland without bleeding out in his leather jacket.
just in case we should keep some neosporin handy
fonzie jumped a shark just saying
sharks are SO rambunctious
i’m totally on the record about this
jump a shark A bomb mecca during the hajj
send the mecca rock to the moon. allan “jackie gleason” ackbar!
with shivilization ya gets the knife
hah i’ve always meant to look up the original but then i keep replaying bobby
i think i’m a go click on bobby now
The Threepenny Opera – Full 1931 Movie – English Subtitles
Ah yes, I remember it well, the anti-muslim pogrom of 2006. The local mosque was firebombed. The police had to set up barricades around the multi-cultural center, where the leaders of the local black and hispanic communites held a press conference to say “hey, we only let them use one room once a month. We ain’t them, yo.” The Somalis took their kids out of school and kept them out. Sure, the Lebanese restaurant was burned down, but when people found out the owner was Christian, we held a fundraiser so she could rebuild.
Good times. Good times.
Too bad it didn’t happen. Given the muslim response to a couple of scribble of ink on a fucking piece of paper!
Shorter me: Tanya Cohen is a fucking idiot who has her facts completely ass backwards as far as violence goes.
I wish vets could get the same consideration the next time some long-haired maggot-infested red-diaper doper type burned an American flag and got his ass handed to him for “inciting hatred and violence”
againstamongst veterans.Tanya Cohen is a fucking idiot who has her facts completely ass backwards and she cheats at scrabble.
You know what else happens as a result of incitement, Tanya Cohen?
Rape.
Charlotte “Charlie” Hebdo stumbled drunkenly down the dark ally behind frat row in her micro-mini cocktail dress and not much else, with a half-empty bottle of sauvignon blanc in one hand, and her 6 inch “fuck-me” pumps in the other. Hebdo not only incited rape, but rape HAPPENED because of incitement.
The dirty slut. She had it coming.
One of yuse twitterpater tweeters feel free to use that. Assuming the comparison hasn’t already been made.
What a massive rally to demonstrate western impotence the French and other world leaders are holding in Paris today. Visually huge, enormous mass of people who intend no one any harm, save perhaps themselves, and that only in the breach. How beautifully useless. Sympathetic, yes, sure. But determined to make war on the warring? Why would anyone think that? Is the rally being held in the Muslim controlled French-no-go zones of the banlieues? faugh, it is to laugh. I’d even bet the leftist C. Hebdo staff remnants are appalled by the impotent street theater.
Agree 1000%, sdferr. Impotence is exactly the right word.
This need not be a ‘long war’ at all- if the U.S. and west have the will to do what needs to be done.
It starts with attacking the messengers and PR for the enemy here at home. That’s the media and organizations such as CAIR. Go after them and their message without letup or any hint of political correctness.
Name the enemy, and let’s throw in how Islam isn’t really a religion as much as it is a political movement. Add in the fact that Mohamed was a bloodthirsty lunatic mass murderer and pedophile who married a 9 year old at age 51. Point out that Islam does not mean ‘peace’, it means ‘submit’.
Then for the meat and potatoes. Go after and kill the Jihadists wherever they are, without restrictions or apology.
Don’t have the stomach for it? Then roll over and die, and to hell with you.
Or that “Tanya Cohen” is a professional troll.
I’m still not sure which…
Hail Britannia, ever, ever, ever to be slaves.
The main subject will likely be how to suppress and eliminate those with Tea Party sympathies. Violent armed wreckers that they are.
Most likely via the “mental health” route – after all, anyone who actually wants to own a firearm is obviously showing symptoms of “Gun Fetishism”, which is recognized as a known precursor to violent behavior and sufficient cause to deny said ownership…
Pamela Geller EXCLUSIVE: ?Inside the Jihad Siege of the Paris Kosher Supermarket
In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
Many Muslim Students In France Refused To Recognize ‘Moment Of Silence’ For #CharlieHebdo Victims
I just completed workplace violence training for work. One symptom of a potentially violent person is “liking guns too much.”
Whatever that means.
Did I mention the training was for work?
I define “liking guns too much” as a fetish unlikely to be found on Youporn.
>One symptom of a potentially violent person is “liking sharia
gunstoo much.”<armadillo says
The Clash – Rock the Casbah
Multicultural Suicide
to french jews,
get a tourist visa and land here. play baracky’s wetback game.
“Potentially violent” sounds like profiling to me. Is potential violence a crime now?
That would cut into my negotiating strategy.
Basically, it means if I start talking about liking guns, company policy would likely have the people who heard it reporting me to HR and my supervisor.
It’s OK to own them, or use them occasionally for hunting, but that’s it.
Wait until they hear that I’m a life member in the N.R.A.
Whoops!
Who do you suppose would be in the most trouble with H.R. for goofing off on the internet on the company’s dime?
employee A) who’s watching a professionally produced video review of a firearms manufacturer’s new tacticool sporticle
employee B) who’s watching a video of some idiot’s idiot girlfriend whacking herself in the nose with the barrel of a shotgun because he’d rather get a cheap laugh than teach her how to properly shoulder his turkey gun.
employee C) who’s watching ISIS’s latest behead an infidel special.
I saw a headline on twitter yesterday to this effect: “Who were the 17 killed in Paris attacks?”. It was attached to a link to a CNN story, so I expected that going to see the CNN story I would see images of the slain, along with short biographies of each. I did a quick calculation of the dead of whom I knew in order to see whether I had that number, 17, corresponding to the news stories I had heard. 10 dead in the C. Hebdo offices, two gendarmes outside the Hebdo offices, one (female) gendarme shot to death while attending a traffic incident elsewhere in Paris, and finally, four Jews shot to death in the Kosher market. (And so it was, the CNN piece.)
But then I saw a story about a jogger shot to death (seemingly at random, since no motive has been told) on last Wed. evidently killed by a gun recovered at the HyperChacher market, so that would make 18 murders associated with the jihadist killers.
And then came the FoxNews crawler with this (gisted) headline “20 killed in Paris in three days”.
Whoa, I thought, two more? Who? Where? Were they police involved in the HyperChacher raid/liberation?
No.
No.
FoxNews was reverting to the 17 murder victims (leaving out of count the murdered jogger) and then adding the 3 vile murderers to their tally.
How sweet of them, how considerate.
I don’t suggest this is in any way a novel practice. However, the practice remains no less stomach turning for all that.
We are inundated with measures, mismeasures and non-measures of the western world’s seriousness and unseriousness regarding the ongoing war against warring militant Islam.
ClownDisaster, PresIVotePresentAndWonPenPhone has called for a “Summit on Countering Violent Extremism” of US “allies” to be held in Washington D.C. Feb. 18th.
Y’know, an infantilizing community organizing symposium intended to humiliate any serious adults still populating our “allied” leader list.
I’d suggest that non-attendance at that summit will itself be a significant measure of the seriousness of the war-fighting attitude of those who do not attend, and hence do not bow down to the aimed humiliations of the unserious community organizer, and that contrariwise, attendance will indicate the opposite.
Long but good.
When they’re done solving hate speech, maybe the Europeans could buck themselves up to do something about hate action?
Psycho Killer
Psycho Chicken
“Je Suis Charlie?”
Just shut yer yap bitches, if’n ya know what’s good fer ya.
One good ba-bawk deserves another.
40,000 Protesters Turn Out at PEGIDA Anti-Terror March in Dresden
I’m starting to think Abraham Maslow may have a lot to answer for:
Read the whole thing
You know, Lee Harris was inspired to write a whole book just because somebody he knew told him that 9/11 was the greatest piece of performance art ever enacted.
Quite, “Right On.”
“Kick in the chicken.”
Plus, bonus gander and goose.
Grade “a” chicken.
[…] shoots that proposal down in one, centered head […]
Our fighting mad President.
You have been warned, so shut up.
I’m fast approaching the point of rescinding my wish that Obama never come to harm.
Boehner’s Bartender Arrested – Threatened to Poison His Drinks (Video)
Lesson Learned by Cryin’ John: Don’t drink and drive in Ohio.
Shorter: bitch was asking for it, wearing an outfit like that.
Related to my 11:15 am link above.
Charlie knows assholes and knows how to apply the boot.
Pelosi talking about the Obama no-show in Paris.
Her revolution is showing.
>Charlie knows assholes and knows how to apply the boot.<
allan ackbar!
proggslam news
Duke University becomes a Parisian suburb