Nice roundup at Pajamas media of Harry Reid’s…er, revelation? speculation?—no one seems quite sure—to a Nevada TV station that Usama bin Laden was been killed in last month’s major earthquake in Pakistan (video here). Here’s how PJM frames the story:
[…] More than the news itself that the No. 1 Most Wanted could be dead—it’s not the first time the speculation arises, and at least until now it has been never confirmed—it’s the possibility that Reid might have disclosed classified information is what has some angry, though others say that there’s not much there there since Reid was only speculating.
Lots of linked response, including this, from Betsy Newmark:
If senators can’t be trusted with top secret information, they won’t be able to perform their Constitutional obligations to oversight of the Executive branch. They must be trusted to keep their big yaps shut. And this guy goes off blabbing to the local news station! […] Did you know that three Democratic senators, including the ranking minority member of the Intelligence Committee have been under investigation for a year for leaking top secret information?
No, I didn’t. Or maybe I did and had forgotten.
But then, it’s not like I follow the news much.
As an ostensible Reid constituent who dispises this mendacious Clintonian wannabee, let me be the first to laugh aloud.
tw: This traitor has no defense, not that he respects the nation’s right to one either…
Ya know what? With the knuckleheads we have running congress these days, I’m surprised we’ve been as successful as we have so far in the War On Terror.
We’d all be speaking German by now if this was WWII. Imagine Harry Reid getting the original plans to D-Day, anyone think that would’ve turned out well?
Guys, remember that this is Harry Reid. He could just be talking out of his ass.
However, just to be safe, I intend to vote against him next time.
Up against the wall with ‘em.
I just got no patience for this.
Also, consider the metaphysical aspects of this if it’s true.
The US tried and tried to get OBL/UBL. However, when it became apparent that the troops couldn’t get the job done, God stepped in and swatted OBL with an earthquake.
Thanks, Big Guy.
spam word: let. At first, I thought it said “Lot”. But that was fire and brimstone, not an earthquake. Still, pretty close.
Whether or not it’s true, it’s profoundly short-sighted to release classified info through a media outlet w/o checking first. If it wasn’t classified info, hey great. If it was, he’s a horrible strategist and a dunce. If it’s completely baseless, he’ll be retired quite soon.
Huh.
TW: This isn’t getting the reaction it would if they were in the other party.
Utter buffoonery!
What’s the old adage?
Huge tits, stink chips!….no
Silk slips, cheese dips!….nope
Loose hips, herpes pits!….not that either…fuck what was it?
I must have missed the part where the proposition that Reid got the information from classified briefings was anything other than rightwing guesswork.
Though I do wonder why there isn’t more wingnut outrage directed at Richard Shelby and Orrin Hatch.
Did you? Well, you might try reading the post, then:
“…of Harry Reid’s…er, revelation? speculation?â€â€no one seems quite sure…”
By the way, I love that Pajamas Media considers the Republican party a legitimate news source.
Why not just call yourselves “A Hundred Republicans . . . and Two Token Liberals.”
To Geek:
Brain, “Sarcasm is wasted on you Pinky.â€Â
Jeff, be sure to share this link with Malkin, Assrocket, and the other people who are suggesting that Reid divulged secret information.
When in doubt, accuse a Democrat of treason.
Geek —
Seems to me you are confusing where John Fund reported it with where Harry Reid revealed it. Are you calling the local Nevada station an arm of the GOP that, via some sinister Rovian gambit, managed to coax helpless Senate Minority leader Harry Reid into opening his yap?
Or maybe he was just doing it, y’know, so the Dems wouldn’t look weak on defense. That seems to be the latest rage.
Actually, this link is even better.
Geek —
If you read the post you’ll make it unnecessary for me to keep repeating myself:
Why the Google link?
This is a convenient way for Osama to fade away–no martyrdom. Maybe his moldering ass can be propped up like Bernie or puppetized for further video hijinks, but if the decision has been made to cancel The Osama Show we won’t be hearing the mournful ululations of grieving nutters for a fucking rockslide, now will we?
Karl Rove controlled my brainwaves. I’m a victim, damit, a victim! Need federal assistance now. Just got fired from McDonalds, an evil corporation. William F. Buckley is worse than Hitler and Satan. Cindy Sheehan is baby Jesus and MLK reborn. Gotta go, mom is coming home soon.
The fact that everyone on your side is assuming he heard about this from classified information is what’s funny.
The one person in the PJM roundup who kept things in perspective was one of the token Democrats.
” token Democrats” = house negroes
more proof that Bushco is racist
You do know, Geek, that others on the left were asked to join, right? They refused—in some cases, they didn’t even have the courtesy to respond.
So now they can cry that they are under-represented, and that those Dems with PJM are “tokens.”
Reminds me of the Dem complaint that the President promised to change the tone in Washington and be a uniter not a divider—and lookie at how divided we are! Because BUSHISHITLERANDHELIEDANDKATRINAVICTIMSATEEACHOTHER!
Hey Geek,
I don’t even care whether in this particular case Reid broke any laws or not. He might have, who knows for sure. It doesn’t change my opinion of the guy, or many others on his side of reality.
The democrats, especially the ones who voted to go to war, have been consistently undermining the war effort at every possible opportunity regardless of the veracity of the points they use to berate the administration.
They are traitors in my opinion. As I said earlier, if this were WWII we would be speaking German by now.
Also, consider the metaphysical aspects of this if it’s true.
The US tried and tried to get OBL/UBL. However, when it became apparent that the troops couldn’t get the job done, God stepped in and swatted OBL with an earthquake.
Thanks, Big Guy.
“Congratulations to the Islamic nation, to our sheikh Osama abu Abdullah (Osama bin Laden) and to sheikh Ayman Zawahiri (bin Laden’s deputy) for the destruction of America, which is at the forefront of evil. It is the start of its collapse.”
– Internet statement from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s Al Qaeda group in Iraq, in reference to Hurrican Katrina.
Punic,
Funny, I didn’t seem to notice any collapse of America while I was deployed down Nawlins way.
I am sure you are snarkily trying to show that comment was the equivalent of the AQ gasbaggery, but you shot a little wide. Adjust fire toward reality – One guy ironically snarking in a blog comment about the death of a really evil SOB terror-master, and enemy-of-Western-Civilization propaganda do not equate…
PIATOR,
I fucked your mom last night in a vat of pig’s blood…. I’ve had better.
Better pigs blood, or better mom?
Major John, PIATOR is merely stating that Jay is the same sort of evil, murderous, religious zealot terrorist that Zarqawi is. God knows why PIATOR would say that, unless PAITOR has intelligence that Zarqawi posts here under the nom de guerre of “Jay”.
I am just ashamed I used the term “snark”. Twice.
I am sure you are snarkily trying to show that comment was the equivalent of the AQ gasbaggery, but you shot a little wide.
I thought the similarity in bloviating was amusing.
I fucked your mom last night in a vat of pig’s blood…. I’ve had better.
Uh-huh. I’m glad to see the level of discourse on a wingnut blog reaching its natural level.
Well, it’s why you’re here, right? To help make that happen?
PIATOR said:
Funny, I thought the same thing about your comments.
tw: children
It seems that the learned esquire above never lets inconvenient facts slow him down.
TMan, if it were the Revolutionary War, we’d all be sipping tea and eating crumpets (or whatever it is they munch on to wash down the tea) at 4 each day…
Side note. Vlerie Wilson, nee Plame, has resigned from the CIA. Read it in the paper this morning.
Pat Robertson threatens unbelievers with hurricanes and he’s an asshole. Reid smites bin Laden with an earthquake and he’s a … ?
When in doubt, accuse a Democrat of treason.
Works for me, geek. They’ve done their damned best to earn that little adjective sobriquet.
Side note. Vlerie Wilson, nee Plame, has resigned from the CIA. Read it in the paper this morning.
Well, one down. Imagine how safe the US will be if the Bush administration can only hound the remaining 17,000 or so out of public service.
Well, one down. Imagine how safe the US will be if the Bush administration can only hound the remaining 17,000 or so out of public service.
Considering how “safe” we’ve been with these clowns on the public teat, I’d say this is a damn good start, phoney.
Help me out here.
Is Harry Reid the one who had the nipple slip?
Why, yes, MayBee. I believe you’re correct. It was all over the net.
Uh, fellas? It turns out that Reid had heard that Osama might have been killed on NPR! As Pajama Media’s Emily Patella said: “never mind”
That’s just what Scooter Libby WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE!
If Scooter says so, it must be true.
Phoenician, any CIA employees interested in doing intelligence work instead of plotting to undermine Republican administrations is of course welcome to stay.
“Whether or not it’s true, it’s profoundly short-sighted to release classified info through a media outlet w/o checking first.”
checking first? hahaha.
Shank is right. Classified material tends to be perishable, i.e., it gets declassified. It depends on the agency and the sources involved. Indeed, a responsible person will always confirm the current classification of the material involved.
So the joke is on you, actus.
So PIATOR has stopped the sanctimonious talking points spouting and has now just cut straight to the trolling. Niiice.
“It depends on the agency and the sources involved. Indeed, a responsible person will always confirm the current classification of the material involved.”
And checking first lets you know this story was on the media before Reid retold it and the wingnuts got all hufty.
Yes. dude is very right. he has to check first.
Well, considering that one of the principals runs the Stormfront-Lite of the blogosphere, one could hardly be surprised that liberals refused to be associated with it.
I mean, how many conservatives would want to be associated be with an organization run by someone like Michael Moore and Ward Churchill?
Makes no difference, actus. Just because the story is on the news at 5 doesn’t mean that the story has been publicly confirmed, as sources still have to be protected. The old saw of “It’s true because everyone sez so” doesn’t count in the realm of classified information.
There’s a difference between rumor and confirmed reports, y’know.
Quake Prompts Questions on Bin Laden(Did Alla get him for us?)
AP ^ | 10/11/05 | KATHERINE SHRADER,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1501075/posts
Posted on 10/12/2005 6:50:30 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
Quake Prompts Questions on Bin Laden
By KATHERINE SHRADER, Associated Press Writer
Tue Oct 11, 4:04 PM ET
Did Osama bin Laden’s secret lair crumble in the earthquake that devastated northwest Pakistan? So far, U.S. government officials and terrorism experts caution against too much speculation about whether the al-Qaida chief may have been killed, injured or forced from hiding.
“There’s a lot of people who know that that’s an obvious question” was the most Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita would say Tuesday about U.S. thinking on bin Laden’s fate.
Federal officials who track terrorism for a living said there’s no evidence yet to suggest that bin Laden or his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, was injured or killed in the quake.
Yet the quake has caused many in and out of government to ask, “What if?”
Bin Laden has managed to avoid capture for nearly a decade, including a feverish manhunt since he ordered the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The United States is offering up to $25 million for information leading to his killing or capture.
He has been rumored to be taking cover anywhere from urban areas of Pakistan to remote cave structures winding along the Afghan-Pakistani border to villages in western Pakistan’s lawless tribal areas.
Any of these possible hideouts could have been at least shaken by Saturday’s 7.6-magnitude quake, forcing bin Laden to move.
Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at the RAND Corp. in Washington, noted that some also theorize that he may be hiding in the disputed region of Kashmir, controlled by the Pakistani military, which was devastated by the temblor.
The region is difficult to move in and out of, Hoffman said, and Islamic extremist groups friendly to bin Laden have camps and operations there.
“It’s enormously tempting to speculate” about bin Laden’s situation, Hoffman said. But “without knowing where he is, it’s impossible to say.”
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Reid said this on 11-23-05, on a show called KRNV-TV’s “Nevada Newsmakers”. There is a video on site at krnv.com after weeks of world wide specualation. No transcript unfortunately. Reid says, and I paraphrase, that he was just speculating, but he thinks that its possible that OBL was killed in the Pakistan earthquake.
Ah, took the easy and predictable way out, did you?
Yes. Charles is a racist. Right.
But, Jeff, Geek is an expert at finding racists! Everytime he looks at someone he disagrees with, he sees one!
Bush’s strategy to get OBL.
1. Force him to hide in caves
2. Wait for earthquake
and they say he had no plan…..
Johnson’s website is the Mecca for hatred of Muslims in the blogosphere. Whether he is an overt bigot or not can be debated. What can’t be debated is that his website caters to bigots.
B-I-G-O-T-S.
He has a history of banning anti-semitic bigots (which is perfectly valid), but has declined to lift a finger about the Stormfront-lite creeps that drive his traffic.
One blogger posted this charming ode to tolerance.:
This blogger made it clear that he intended his comment to apply to Muslims as a group repeatedly
Johnson’s response? He put this blogger on his honorary blogroll of “anti-idiotarians.”
There are those who acknowledge Johnson as the Father Coughlin of the blogosphere, and then there are the willfully blind.
Care to defend your fellow LGF’ers getting a collective hard-on from the idea of mobs burning Muslim schools?
Geek has proved that one of LGF’s commenters is a bigot.
Way to go big guy…
for his next trick he will now show that one of the Kos kids is actually G-A-Y!!!
Phoenician, any CIA employees interested in doing intelligence work instead of plotting to undermine Republican administrations is of course welcome to stay.
Well, quite apart from the fact that:
(i) Plame was the employee, Wilson was not.
(ii) Outing Plame compromised US security, in nuclear proliferation no less.
(iii) Outing Plame was illegal AND
(iv) Outing Plame was nothing but a partisan political smear
I wonder if you’re aware of the precedent you’re following? There have been other regimes which have made loyalty to The Party a necessary component of civil service, and I’m glad to see the Bush Administration following their example.
Islam is a race now?
mmmmmmmRacism, is there nothing that word can’t do?