Put yourself in Obama’s shoes: here’s a guy of average intelligence and modest faculties, who, because of the exquisite fortune of his birth – has had his entire life handed to him – sculpted for him – by a bunch of elitist, anti-American, race mongers. A guy who has never done anything that wasn’t preceded and followed up on by a veritable industry of mendicants and fluffers.
He’s been taught that there are literally no legitimate limits, no procedural limits, no moral limits, no prudential limits on anything He wants. He’s never learned self-examination, never been subject to criticism, not even of the constructive kind. He’s never been held accountable to any standard, for anything, ever.
And now, when reality is FINALLY breaching the fortified walls of the fortress that has ben constructed around him, he and his handlers and apologists are so unprepared, there are no words pungent enough to describe the meltdown. The man’s entire presidency has contracted late-stage Ebola: reality is turning the guts of the administration into a gelatinous mass that no one can hold together.
“It isn’t just that the MSM got things so wrong, it’s that they permanently shattered their credibility to make it happen.”
Though the sentence stands well enough, I’d still insert “. . . shattered their credibility [in order] to make it happen.” But when we assign causes here, we cannot release the electorate from their responsibility. It’s democracy, democrats. Sure ClownDisaster is a lying pig. We knew this. Sure the Press are subsidiary lying pigs. We knew this. It’s the willful ignorance of the electorate that makes these possible, and that’s a willful ignorance which works to the destruction and harm of the very ones who wield it. That’s the cause without which these malefactors do not advance.
– Hey, the millennials made their mark, stuck it to the man, thumbed their noses at daddy, that’s all that matters to them. It’s probably the only thing of importance, no matter that it’s profoundly fucked up, that most of them will do in their entire lives.
– We have raised Three generations of Sandra Flukes to our ever lasting remorse.
I’m not sure it’s ignorance so much as denial, sdferr. In 2008 even some conservatives wanted Obama to be the uniter he sold himself as.
They hoped his ascension would end forever the reflexive use of the race card by liberals. They wanted to believe.
The remaining segment of the electorate that still supports him knows what a failure he is, but because they don’t want it to be true, they’re demanding the rest of the world go along with their delusion.
It’s a position increasingly untenable, but some will hold out until he’s gone, and then blame Whitey for not letting him turn out to be the magic knee bro they wished he could be.
“Real” reality is just a scripted TV show and what goes on out in the world is just shadow puppets that mean nothing, they are not the droids you’re looking for. It is so easy to have that perfect world when it is just a script away.
It is so easy to have that perfect world when it is just a script away.
– It’s certainly easy to sell that to a desperate electorate, but as the last 7 years, and many many thousands of years of history shows, the fantasy has no shelf life in the face of the relentless real world.
When we are told that “all is well, the situation is being handled,” I can’t help but remember that it was last year at this time that we were shocked by just how atrocious the Obamacare website rollout was.
To tug on that thread just a bit McG, in order to reach toward what I hope will be a kind of clarity regarding what are highly general propositions I’ve asserted — and I wouldn’t disagree that denial on the part of a large mass in the electorate plays a significant role here, particularly when I set out to preempt that possibility directly — I find the Tocquevillean phrase “self-interest rightly understood” popping to mind as an example of the ignorance I intend.
The newspaper cover puts itself out in an apparent advance of a general tenor now sweeping the dissatisfied, the gulled, the mistaken, the greedy, the fools, the newly awoken, i.e. the very voters who made this terrible choice, thinking they made this choice in their interests. They were wrong, and yet the finger of blame can easily shift to the object of their choice and away from their own responsibility: the choice itself. They seek to escape (by denial!) their own culpability, much like the jailed and truly convicted criminal who never admits his guilt and always asserts his innocence — that’s denial ex post facto and another instance of the human insistence of having ones cake and eating it.
But I think you correctly point toward a form of denial built into the bad choice, so distinguished from this latter — a form of denial which plays its role in the formation of the willfulness of the ignorance of which I spoke, a denial bound up with the will toward human desires (ends) willed without willing the means.
I doubt I’ve helped here much, but these are threads still worth tugging, I think.
What is it we ought not favor in democracy? Generally speaking, its capriciousness, a famous attribute associated with human desiring aimed primarily at human bodily functions, as well as on self-satisfying self-delivered pats on the back. But also democracy’s necessary and constant ignorance, a more perilous and I think more nearly fatal attribute.
There have always been uninformed voters. However, I am guessing what has changed is that in the past they were more likely to vote conservative and today all the marketing and MSM propaganda has paid off and they are voting more “progressive”.
Whether it’s willful ignorance or denial, it seems to me that it is a damn good piece of evidence for restricting the Franchise when we Restore the Republic.
First thing for the evidence to be accepted as such is for the electorate to recognize its own responsibility in making it so . . . for so long as that denial stands fast, so long nothing but an arbitrary force can impose the conclusion.
That’s certainly part of it, BG, but the trend towards voting more Progressive has been growing since the Franchise was expanded in the 19th Century. It slightly picked-up steam when women got the vote and that shifted into high gear when Feminism ravaged the land.
I think people have a right to be ignorant. What is important is to get back to constitutional restrictions to limit and mitigate the damage an incompetent and/or evil elected official can do.
I was thinking the other day that early 20th century ladies felt they “owed” the progressives for their help getting the vote. Imagine if women had got the vote right after the civil war, bet things would be different.
In some states women suffrage far preceded the 19th Amendment, but in those states most women were married and therefore had a stake in the America they knew.
Many of the 20th-century urban suffragettes not only didn’t marry, they favored the institution’s destruction (q.v. “free love”).
thanks McGehee, that fleshes out some of my thinking. More years of responsible conservative voting would have proceeded and countered the “anything goes” voting of the early 20th century.
The notion of having only men vote made some kind of sense when you realize at the time that the vast majority of men had wives and families to consider when voting.
I don’t believe we can or should go back to that, but an electorate that does not consider anything other than their personal short-term interests gives us what we have now.
My concern is that, if we don’t restrict the Franchise in any Restoration of our Freedoms and Liberties that we achieve, we will be setting ourselves up to repeat American History in the 20th/21st Centuries again.
For any such Restoration to work, we must put more checks and balances on Human Nature. People who do not have a direct stake in the preservation of Freedom and Ordered Liberty, who vote themselves the fruits of others labor, are a plague on any Republic, especially on the kind The Founders gifted us.
Please understand that I am in favor of restrictions on voting, including restrictions that would eliminate me as a voter (requiring military service, for instance), I just don’t think you can sell them.
I just think this is something we should be thinking about for the long-term.
There are many such issues. What improvements to the system devised by The Founders should and must be made, based on our two hundred-plus years of experience so that we can increase the life-span of a restored American republic. As we honor our ancestors, we must, at the same time, leave our Posterity in the best shape possible.
Welcome to the party, pal!!
You little s**ts are going to really pay for making me miss my golf games and adoration sessions, you betcha.
The only thing Barry Soetoro can get a grip on is his dick.
[Pardon my vulgarity, but I’m fed up.]
You’re forgetting his putter.
Racist!
Top. Men.
My. Ass.
Put yourself in Obama’s shoes: here’s a guy of average intelligence and modest faculties, who, because of the exquisite fortune of his birth – has had his entire life handed to him – sculpted for him – by a bunch of elitist, anti-American, race mongers. A guy who has never done anything that wasn’t preceded and followed up on by a veritable industry of mendicants and fluffers.
He’s been taught that there are literally no legitimate limits, no procedural limits, no moral limits, no prudential limits on anything He wants. He’s never learned self-examination, never been subject to criticism, not even of the constructive kind. He’s never been held accountable to any standard, for anything, ever.
And now, when reality is FINALLY breaching the fortified walls of the fortress that has ben constructed around him, he and his handlers and apologists are so unprepared, there are no words pungent enough to describe the meltdown. The man’s entire presidency has contracted late-stage Ebola: reality is turning the guts of the administration into a gelatinous mass that no one can hold together.
Dead solid perfect, RightOfGenghis.
I couldn’t have said it better myself [well, actually…].
‘Obama’s’ been in your arse too, TW? Rahm and Reggie will be jealous.
Ed Driscoll brings the context.
“It isn’t just that the MSM got things so wrong, it’s that they permanently shattered their credibility to make it happen.”
“It isn’t just that the MSM got things so wrong, it’s that they permanently shattered their credibility to make it happen.”
Though the sentence stands well enough, I’d still insert “. . . shattered their credibility [in order] to make it happen.” But when we assign causes here, we cannot release the electorate from their responsibility. It’s democracy, democrats. Sure ClownDisaster is a lying pig. We knew this. Sure the Press are subsidiary lying pigs. We knew this. It’s the willful ignorance of the electorate that makes these possible, and that’s a willful ignorance which works to the destruction and harm of the very ones who wield it. That’s the cause without which these malefactors do not advance.
– Hey, the millennials made their mark, stuck it to the man, thumbed their noses at daddy, that’s all that matters to them. It’s probably the only thing of importance, no matter that it’s profoundly fucked up, that most of them will do in their entire lives.
– We have raised Three generations of Sandra Flukes to our ever lasting remorse.
I’m not sure it’s ignorance so much as denial, sdferr. In 2008 even some conservatives wanted Obama to be the uniter he sold himself as.
They hoped his ascension would end forever the reflexive use of the race card by liberals. They wanted to believe.
The remaining segment of the electorate that still supports him knows what a failure he is, but because they don’t want it to be true, they’re demanding the rest of the world go along with their delusion.
It’s a position increasingly untenable, but some will hold out until he’s gone, and then blame Whitey for not letting him turn out to be the magic knee bro they wished he could be.
None so blind, and all that.
“Real” reality is just a scripted TV show and what goes on out in the world is just shadow puppets that mean nothing, they are not the droids you’re looking for. It is so easy to have that perfect world when it is just a script away.
It is so easy to have that perfect world when it is just a script away.
– It’s certainly easy to sell that to a desperate electorate, but as the last 7 years, and many many thousands of years of history shows, the fantasy has no shelf life in the face of the relentless real world.
I assume they are bad mouthing Obama to get some credibility back so you will not question their coverage of the next “chosen one”.
When we are told that “all is well, the situation is being handled,” I can’t help but remember that it was last year at this time that we were shocked by just how atrocious the Obamacare website rollout was.
To tug on that thread just a bit McG, in order to reach toward what I hope will be a kind of clarity regarding what are highly general propositions I’ve asserted — and I wouldn’t disagree that denial on the part of a large mass in the electorate plays a significant role here, particularly when I set out to preempt that possibility directly — I find the Tocquevillean phrase “self-interest rightly understood” popping to mind as an example of the ignorance I intend.
The newspaper cover puts itself out in an apparent advance of a general tenor now sweeping the dissatisfied, the gulled, the mistaken, the greedy, the fools, the newly awoken, i.e. the very voters who made this terrible choice, thinking they made this choice in their interests. They were wrong, and yet the finger of blame can easily shift to the object of their choice and away from their own responsibility: the choice itself. They seek to escape (by denial!) their own culpability, much like the jailed and truly convicted criminal who never admits his guilt and always asserts his innocence — that’s denial ex post facto and another instance of the human insistence of having ones cake and eating it.
But I think you correctly point toward a form of denial built into the bad choice, so distinguished from this latter — a form of denial which plays its role in the formation of the willfulness of the ignorance of which I spoke, a denial bound up with the will toward human desires (ends) willed without willing the means.
I doubt I’ve helped here much, but these are threads still worth tugging, I think.
What is it we ought not favor in democracy? Generally speaking, its capriciousness, a famous attribute associated with human desiring aimed primarily at human bodily functions, as well as on self-satisfying self-delivered pats on the back. But also democracy’s necessary and constant ignorance, a more perilous and I think more nearly fatal attribute.
There have always been uninformed voters. However, I am guessing what has changed is that in the past they were more likely to vote conservative and today all the marketing and MSM propaganda has paid off and they are voting more “progressive”.
Whether it’s willful ignorance or denial, it seems to me that it is a damn good piece of evidence for restricting the Franchise when we Restore the Republic.
First thing for the evidence to be accepted as such is for the electorate to recognize its own responsibility in making it so . . . for so long as that denial stands fast, so long nothing but an arbitrary force can impose the conclusion.
That’s certainly part of it, BG, but the trend towards voting more Progressive has been growing since the Franchise was expanded in the 19th Century. It slightly picked-up steam when women got the vote and that shifted into high gear when Feminism ravaged the land.
I think people have a right to be ignorant. What is important is to get back to constitutional restrictions to limit and mitigate the damage an incompetent and/or evil elected official can do.
I was thinking the other day that early 20th century ladies felt they “owed” the progressives for their help getting the vote. Imagine if women had got the vote right after the civil war, bet things would be different.
In some states women suffrage far preceded the 19th Amendment, but in those states most women were married and therefore had a stake in the America they knew.
Many of the 20th-century urban suffragettes not only didn’t marry, they favored the institution’s destruction (q.v. “free love”).
thanks McGehee, that fleshes out some of my thinking. More years of responsible conservative voting would have proceeded and countered the “anything goes” voting of the early 20th century.
The notion of having only men vote made some kind of sense when you realize at the time that the vast majority of men had wives and families to consider when voting.
I don’t believe we can or should go back to that, but an electorate that does not consider anything other than their personal short-term interests gives us what we have now.
My concern is that, if we don’t restrict the Franchise in any Restoration of our Freedoms and Liberties that we achieve, we will be setting ourselves up to repeat American History in the 20th/21st Centuries again.
For any such Restoration to work, we must put more checks and balances on Human Nature. People who do not have a direct stake in the preservation of Freedom and Ordered Liberty, who vote themselves the fruits of others labor, are a plague on any Republic, especially on the kind The Founders gifted us.
Please understand that I am in favor of restrictions on voting, including restrictions that would eliminate me as a voter (requiring military service, for instance), I just don’t think you can sell them.
In the current climate, no, you’re quite right.
But in a Restoration…
I just think this is something we should be thinking about for the long-term.
There are many such issues. What improvements to the system devised by The Founders should and must be made, based on our two hundred-plus years of experience so that we can increase the life-span of a restored American republic. As we honor our ancestors, we must, at the same time, leave our Posterity in the best shape possible.