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Shannon Elizabeth comments on the phenomenon of the cultural “meta-bigot” and its influence on contemporary American vanguard humor

Elizabeth:  “Is it just me?  Or does this Sarah Silverman chick sound like a world-class bitch?

“Not to mention she’s a Jew.  Which, that doesn’t help matters either, truth be told.”

95 Replies to “Shannon Elizabeth comments on the phenomenon of the cultural “meta-bigot” and its influence on contemporary American vanguard humor”

  1. Jeff Goldstein says:

    BIMBO!

  2. TBoner says:

    Is it wrong that I fantasized that it was HER who got the money-shot in “Something About Mary”?

    I just like the thought of her with crusties in her hair. So sue me.

  3. kelly says:

    “Rail thin–yet full-bosomed.”

    What’s not to like?

    Except the Jew part?

  4. BrendaK says:

    …Silverman’s deadpan is extra dead…

    Has anyone actually seen her act?  ‘Cause, from the article, she doesn’t sound remotely funny.  Without the funny, it really is just ugly commentary.

    I don’t imagine she has much of a following as a comic.  Hope not, anyway.

  5. Farmer Joe says:

    I think she’s hilarious. And hot.

    She’s also the cousin of a friend of mine. Not that that’s getting me anywhere, mind you.

    TW: “Tried”. Not that I haven’t.

  6. BrendaK –

    With sensibilities like that, why in Hell are you reading this blog?

  7. mr fun says:

    oh the humanity!

  8. slickdpdx says:

    I think she is pretty damn funny, even in a Slate article.

    I also like the line that a comedian’s only job is funny thoughts.

    Comedy is funnier that way.

  9. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Personally, I think she’s a genius.  But then I have a soft spot for humorists who push people’s buttons (I was a big Kaufman fan, too).

    Now that Mitch Hedberg’s dead, Silverman is my favorite active comic.

  10. APF says:

    She’s cringeworthy-funny.  See the opening scene of the movie, ”Way of the Gun” for a good Silverman bit (on IMDB she’s credited as, “Raving Bitch”).

  11. OHNOES says:

    Sarah Silverman’s performance on Monk was superb, but that’s only because she had me in stitches with the perfectly self-referential “Mr. Monk, you should really have your own TV show… but, if you do, never, EVER change the theme song.”

    She seems to be alright, but too much on the button-pushing and not enough on the funny for me to want to dig farther.

  12. She’s pretty damn funny, cute too. 

    But can she cook? 

    A gal’s gotta cook, maybe iron a little, but she’s gotta cook.

  13. Lisa says:

    I think she’s great.

    I also don’t think her style of comedy would be so “shocking” to everyone if she had a penis.  Somehow the womenses ain’t supposed to be dirty, or smart.

  14. natesnake says:

    She did an NPR interview the other day with Terry Grosse.  She was dropping top-shelf jokes left and right.  Very funny material.  Unfortunately, all of the jokes were over Terry’s head.  Silence.  Sarcasm and humor is wasted on liberals.

    She has a nice rack to boot.

  15. a shizzle says:

    she’s no Bill Hicks.  what can I say, I’m a sucker for dick jokes.

    dare I say – I heard her last night on Fresh Air – Terri Gross didn’t know what to do with her.  is this funny? – should I be offended – huh? 

    the mind races. 

    that being said, I hope I hear her on Howard Stern – that would be a great interview.  the possibilities are endless – and Howard has a pretty good grip on stereotypes and what makes people tick – and tock.

    I’m sorry, I’m only an “average” commenter.

  16. utron says:

    Hey, she’s rail-thin, neurotic, and has an absolutely deranged sense of humor.  Three of my key turn-ons. The fact that she “moves like a vervet monkey” is just icing on the cake.

    T/W: “reported,” which is what the New York Times thought they were doing with that vervet monkey factoid.

  17. Bane says:

    Shame! I might lick that rack, but I’d never boot it.

    Saying women can’t (shouldn’t?) do what she does, is like saying I can’t eat watermelon because I’m white.

    The Pam Anderson Roast was so great (besides Pam’s gleaming bosoms) because she had other top comedians both squirming in their seats and laughing uncontrollably.

    She is a rare, Carlin (or better) quality comedy genius. With a great rack.

  18. A fine scotch says:

    I don’t care what anybody says; I LOVED Greg the Bunny.  The Count learning to say a’ight still cracks me up.

  19. Adam says:

    “Her persona—an incestuous, genital-obsessed, racist narcissist—looks and sounds exactly like Silverman herself.”

    Ouch.  Nice to know that Slate has such high-class standards for what it says about the people it’s writing about.

    Silverman sounds like the kind of comedian I love; but I also thought that this article’s not-so-subtle insinuation that maybe her jokes are all LITERALLY true to be hilarious.

    In all honesty, she sounds like a female, stand-up comic Trey Parker or Matt Stone.

  20. Salt Lick says:

    Wow, I’m in love.  The Jews have finally made up for Betty Friedan.

  21. With all the Jeff Gannon stuff on this blog, I’m surprised no one commented on two interesting words appearing side-by-side in the article:

    It looks like her face isn’t in on her own jokes: Her nostrils flare, her mouth cocks meaningfully to one side, her teeth (of which there seem to be a few extra) hide and reveal themselves in strategically earnest formations.

    Or am I just a little warped?

  22. shank says:

    I think Slate is just waxing philosophical about a chick who spends a lot of time doing drugs.  I mean, do you think a woman really has the intellectual capability to create that kind of comedic vision?  Give me a break, all we’re looking at here is some slut with a dirty mouth.  If there is any comedic vision, it’s probably Jimmy Kimmel feeding her good material.

    Getting:  As in, are you getting it?

  23. natesnake says:

    She reminds of the girl next door from my youth that was a happy participant in the “show me yours and I’ll show you mine” game.

    Minx.

  24. I completely missed that Attila. But I did notice this…

    I’m a sucker for dick jokes.

    …and wonder if it was intentional.

  25. Farmer Joe says:

    she’s no Bill Hicks

    Bill Hicks was no Bill Hicks.

    I mean now that he’s been cannonized and all.

    (Sorry, I just think Bill Hicks is pretty much the most overrated person EVER. Give up our defense system, feed everybody in the world, and all our problems will disappear. Sure, Bill. Have another bong hit.)

  26. ss says:

    She raped me.

    But don’t get me wrong–great rack.

  27. BrendaK says:

    Bill From INDC:

    Well, gee.  I suppose I read Ace’s blog because I find him insightful, usually funny, and because it is obvious that he is intentionally being funny.  Which is why I asked if anyone had seen her act.  The article indicated that she basically stands around delivering comments that would be highly objectionably if uttered by Pat Robertson, and she includes no hint that she means the ‘jokes’ as actual, you know, jokes.

    Maybe among her (apparently many) facial contortions she should include an eyebrow wiggle.

    Jeez, louise.  I just wanted to know if anyone finds the woman funny—thus indicating that her delivery clearly indicates that she is making a funny/wry societal comment.

  28. natesnake says:

    I wonder if Hugh Heffner ever thought of a “Girls of SNL”?  I always wanted to get a peek at Al Franken’s glorious rack.

  29. APF says:

    “Rail-thin” + “full-bosomed” do not compute.

    SEE THAT?  THIS PAJAMAHIDEEN GOT YOU AGAIN, MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!

  30. ss says:

    BrendaK

    Maybe the fact that Sarah Silverman is employed as a “comedian” would have tipped you off that she’s being intentionally funny.

  31. Byrd says:

    “Rail-thin” + “full-bosomed” computes just fine, thank you very much.

    If god gives you aids, make lemonaids!!!

    Ahhhahaha classic!

  32. BrendaK says:

    ss:

    Yes, I knew that would come up.  Ok, you’ve never, ever, ever seen a commedien add a straight comment to their act?  Once again, the article indicated that one would have difficulty telling if she was making a joke/wry/sarcastic remark due to her delivery.

    The only question I actually had, IS SHE FUNNY?, has been more or less answered.  Kinda, maybe, some people think so, and she has breasts.

    I don’t care about the woman, won’t have occasion to see her act, and have quite nice breasts of my own so am not much impressed by hers.

    Thanks so much, though, for the personal jab (eyebrow wiggle added for that extra sarcasm hint).

    TW:  Came…Came and went.

  33. Fred says:

    Ace’s blog?

    What the…?

    I thought for sure this was Jeff Goldstein’s blog.  I even scrolled up and double-checked when I read that comment.

    Curious.

  34. Fred says:

    and have quite nice breasts of my own

    I am a skeptical man.  Prove it.

  35. APF says:

    Trying to defend the indefensible?  Where are these fictitious rails with boobs, “Byrd?” –Or should I say, MARY MAPES?!@ONE

  36. Doug F says:

    (Sorry, I just think Bill Hicks is pretty much the most overrated person EVER. Give up our defense system, feed everybody in the world, and all our problems will disappear. Sure, Bill. Have another bong hit.)

    All these years I thought it was just me.

  37. ed says:

    Hmmmm.

    With a great rack.

    Ultimately, that’s all that really matters.

  38. APF says:

    Yeah; where are these fictitious jpegs of your quite nice breasts, “Brenda?” –Or should I say, MARY MAPES?!@ONE

  39. ss says:

    “Rail-thin” + “full-bosomed”

    How dare she perpetuate unrealistic media-based ideals of the female body!! Real women are chunky and generally unattractive.

    THAT DANGEROUSLY HOUR-GLASS-SHAPED GENDER TRAITOR!

  40. Bane says:

    Honestly, you people are so shallow. All you can do is make facile comments about her outer appearance.

    I actually feel a bit sorry for you.

    So, I wonder how her vagina looks?

  41. Percy Dovetonsils says:

    Give me a break, all we’re looking at here is some slut with a dirty mouth. 

    That’s good enough for me, thank you very much.

  42. APF says:

    EXACTLY.  If you’re not a hideously-unattractive, overweight and completely flat-chested, you’re not a REAL woman; I don’t care HOW MANY vaginas you keep in your panties.

  43. Razor says:

    Fucking Slate.  Isn’t it enough anymore to just say someone is funny?

    Silverman is very very funny.  That and her juxtaposition of beauty and slicing wit to undermine the neo-Christian Right’s near deathgrip on the right to comment on post-modern self-alienation vis-a-vis the godless societal norms prevalent in postmodern U.S. socio-economic paradigms, makes her rack all the more alluring.

    Hyphens!

  44. Lars says:

    “When God gives you AIDS, make lemon-AIDS!”

    Does Sully laugh at this? Probably not, but he should.

  45. Bill says:

    So, I wonder how her vagina looks?

    You are so shallow. Only concerned about appearances.

    Personally, I wonder how her vagina feels.

  46. SarahW says:

    Yay! Sarah Silverman is like my favorite comedian.

    I think she’s hella hard-core funny.

  47. BrendaK –

    First, this isn’t “Ace’s blog.”

    Second, the deadpan fuck-with-people humor described in the piece is a lot of what Jeff Godstein – the owner of this blog – does. Which would naturally beg the question, “if you don’t like that, why do you like this?”

    I can act this all out in a puppet show, if it helps.

  48. Sean M. says:

    So, wait a minute, Bill from INDC…do you literally have puppets ready to act this whole thing out?  I’m confused.

  49. Alan says:

    Is this what she told you in a private conversation or do you have a link?

  50. Jeff Goldstein says:

    Oh. These conversations are always private until I publish them, Alan.

    Shannon never objects.  Sweet gal, Shannon.

  51. TallDave says:

    OMFG Did you see the preview for “Jesus is Magic?” That was hilarious.

    http://www.jesusismagicthemovie.com/

    I’m gonna have to get that one.  HAVE to.

  52. Robert says:

    Great sweater puppies.  She doesn’t have to talk.

  53. Bane says:

    That and her juxtaposition of beauty and slicing wit to undermine the neo-Christian Right’s near deathgrip on the right to comment on post-modern self-alienation vis-a-vis the godless societal norms prevalent in postmodern U.S. socio-economic paradigms…

    Noam? Is that you?

  54. Lew Clark says:

    I think she’s funny, but I’m not Jewish, so I can’t really be sure.

  55. mph says:

    I used to find Sarah very hot. Now I am totally in love, and wish to father her children.  Even though I’ve never seen/felt her vagina.

    I am hoping that Sarah googles herself regularly, finds this comment, and expresses her mutual love. The power of the Internet and all.

  56. APF says:

    I PROTEST JIMMY KIMMEL’S ILLEGAL, IMMORAL AND UNJUST OCCUPATION OF HER RACK!

    (Her rack, Iraq… what, do I have to draw you guys a map?)

  57. Alan says:

    Oh. These conversations are always private until I publish them, Alan.

    Shannon never objects.  Sweet gal, Shannon.

    Heaven forbid you’d let yourself be used as a tool. If anonymous sources are good enough for Mapes, I guess they’re good enough for you. Anyway, Shannon Elizabeth might really hate Jews..so no harm done.

  58. Jeff Goldstein says:

    It’s not “hate” so much as it is “suspicion.”

    And really—who can blame her?

  59. RDub says:

    Late to the thread, but I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who got the memo about Bill Hicks.  After hearing people rave about how “brave” he was, I picked up one his CDs, gave it a listen and tossed it.  His politics aside, he was just a crank who couldn’t get over how dark he supposedly was.  Boring.

    Seeing MSNBC supergenius Keith Olbermann comparing him to Jesus (or Gandhi or something) on the back of the case didn’t bode well, but I bought it anyway.

    As for Silverman?  I thought Greg the Bunny was extremely funny during it’s short run, and she’s been funny every time I’ve seen her.  Didn’t know she was the woman at the beginning of Way of the Gun, but that’s pretty cool.

  60. RDub says:

    Sonova…should read “didn’t get the memo” above.

  61. Toby Petzold says:

    Thanks, Jeff. That girl is ideal.

  62. Matt Moore says:

    We’re spending all this money, millions of dollars, to blow up the moon, when there are so many things here on Earth to blow up… Mount Everest, the North Pole, et cetera.

    We’re earthlings, let’s blow up Earth things!

  63. Attila Girl says:

    There aren’t a lot of thin women who look good with large-ish boobs, but Silverman is one of them.

    I’ll have to actually see Silverman’s act before I concede that she’s better than April Winchell, though: fair’s fair. But just the lines in the article were impressive.

    It’s gratifying that there are so many smart chicks in the world. You know: that takes some of the pressure off . . .

    Confidential to cousin Attila: you are warped, but in that really good way.

  64. Sean M. says:

    Nice, Matt.  I saw her waiting outside of Royce Hall at UCLA to see Mr. Show Live, but I was too chickenshit to say anything to her.

  65. Rep Symes says:

    I’ve seen some of her stuff, but no expert on her.  That ‘bittersweet’ doctor-rape joke?  Smart and very funny.

    The rest, not the same level.  Trading on “I’m outrageous AND I’m a girl!” instead of actual funny.  Were she a guy, the hip buzz wouldn’t nearly as loud.  Still though, she’s always smart.

    And I agree that “Greg the Bunny” was not quite as ‘forgettable’ as the writer tosses off.

  66. Attila –

    There aren’t a lot of thin women who look good with large-ish boobs, but Silverman is one of them.

    What brand of nail polish are you huffing?

  67. Good to know other people find Bill Hicks to be a painfully unfunny jackass in love with his own conscious and awkward subversiveness.

    I had never seen Silverman’s standup (only her appearances on Mr. Show), but Slate describing her as a latter-day Lenny Bruce made me almost stop reading right there and not watch any of her clips. Bill Hicks was the latter-day Lenny Bruce.

    Sarah Silverman seems pretty funny.

  68. Bill from INDC,

    I’m sure glad you weren’t asking ME what brand of nail polish I’m huffing, because the brand name is top secret.  Asking Attila Girl is OK.

  69. Silverman sorta reminds me of a friend from college who liked to tell variations on common jokes like:

    Q: What’s worse than finding a worm in your apple?

    A: The Holocaust.

  70. Ian Wood says:

    Dead in a bathtub at 44.

  71. TallDave says:

    Ian,

    Why bring Courtney Love into this?

  72. Russ from Winterset says:

    Wait, wait…..I want to hear more of these “puppets” Bill keeps close at hand.  Bill, do you store the puppets in the back of your panel van (you know, the one with the rear windows blacked out with shoe polish)?  Maybe you could use them occasionally on the little kids.  That story about “needing help getting a puppy out of your crawlspace” has to be getting old by now.

    The best thing about a thread on a totally inappropriate comedianne is that you get to slag on a guy then back off and say “Hey, I was just on the theme, can’t you take a joke?”

    Not that I have to worry….Bill’s known far and wide for his thick skin……or is that Ace I’m thinking about…..crap.

    TW: policy

    It’s always been my POLICY to judge a comedianne by the size of her rack.

  73. chthus says:

    Last week when I was eating kettle corn and watching an abortion protest I saw this guy wearing a grim reaper outfit and carrying a sign that said, “Eat a gay fetus for Christ.”

    I thought that shit was funny. Now I realize it was Silverman funny.

  74. ss says:

    There aren’t a lot of thin women who look good with large-ish boobs

    All humor aside, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.

  75. Attila GIRL says:

    Bill,

    I’m a Cutex girl myself–with full-on acetone. None of this hippie shit.

    Actually, I live just a few miles away from the San Fernando Valley, one of the porn capitals of the world. So I’ve seen a lot of really BAD boob jobs–waifish-thin women with huge knockers that are not balanced out at all by their hips.

    Most of the guys I know like to at least be able to “buy in.” (“Hey–they might be real. They might.”)

    But, you know: these matters are pretty subjective.

    [Cuz–I TOLD you people would get us confused. How funny.]

  76. Stickler for the rules says:

    Please deduct -10 points from Bill from INDC.

    Misuse of the phrase begs the question.

  77. Attila Girl says:

    Unless, of course, he’s just being colloquial . . .  this not being a formal debate and all, I would imagine that’s allowed.

  78. Lewis says:

    Back when I was a student, while visiting a friend of mine at NYU, I was introduced to Sarah Silverman.

    Didn’t really get to talk to her, but holy crap was she hot.  And I don’t think I even noticed the great rack.

    And as for dating Jimmy Kimmel?  She must have a thing for comedians.  ‘Cause she was, allegedly, dating Colin Quinn when she was at NYU.

    Either that, or she just has a thing for connected media people who she thinks can help her career.

  79. Steve in Houston says:

    Slate, summed up in two sentences:

    “That thing you like? Sucks.”

    I think the puppets Bill is referring to are sweater puppets.

    Anyways, I saw Bill Hicks live when I was at UofTexas (which I guess is better than seeing him right now). He was OK, but keep in mind I was trying really hard to laugh because I went with this gorgeous lefty humanities major with green eyes, bob haircut and a great … hey, rack!

    Well, I’ve come full circle.

    TW: “hot”, seriously. This thing reads minds, Jeff.

  80. Jim in Chicago says:

    She was brilliant in “Who’s the Caboose?”

    And why the hell isn’t that out on dvd? Someone work on that please.

  81. Doug F says:

    http://www.jesusismagicthemovie.com

    The preview’s fucking hilarious.  I’ve gotta see that.

  82. alppuccino says:

    Q:  What do you call that usless flap of skin hanging around the vagina?

    A:  Jimmy Kimmel

  83. Matt Esq. says:

    Honestly, I don’t think you should ever post Shannon Elizabeth comments without a Shannon Elizabeth picture. 

    Never heard of Silverman until I read this article- even as one of those right wing religious nutbags, I still appreciate biting humor =)

  84. Desert Cat says:

    So, I wonder how her vagina looks?

    Faggot!

  85. AWG says:

    So, wait a minute, Bill from INDC…do you literally have puppets ready to act this whole thing out?  I’m confused.

    See, it’s that sort of preparedness and attention to detail that separates the amateurs from the professionals. grin

  86. SarahW says:

    TallDave –

    A favorite line from the movie (Jeff’s linguistic columns in 10 words or less?):

    Silverman, finally aware she has put her foot in it with an inappropriate appellation for the intellectually disadvantaged, “corrects” herself:

    “And by ‘retard,’ I mean They can do anything.”

  87. Please deduct -10 points from Bill from INDC.

    Misuse of the phrase begs the question.

    hey, if it’s good enough for Joe Wilson, it’s good enough for me.

  88. Actually, I live just a few miles away from the San Fernando Valley, one of the porn capitals of the world. So I’ve seen a lot of really BAD boob jobs–waifish-thin women with huge knockers that are not balanced out at all by their hips.

    Ah, but you failed to specify fake vs. real.

    Thin women with disproportionately large real boobs are hella awesome.

    Thin women with bolt-ons are less hella awesome, but their hella awesomeness rises in direct proportion to their willingness to eff me.

    It’s a formula, and shit.

  89. Ben says:

    As the closest thing here to a jackbooted neo-Christian rightist, I find Silverman more cute than funny.  I think her rants that use foul language to interrupt vowels aren’t really that funny, but when she stops and actually tells a joke, she’s great.

  90. Brian says:

    Please deduct -10 points from Bill from INDC.

    Misuse of the phrase begs the question.

    Please deduct 10 points from Stickler for the Rules for not realizing that deducting -10 points means awarding 10 points – points which are so richly deserved by Bill.

  91. ak says:

    Greg the Bunny forgettable? I’m sputtering. Well, all I can say is, that’s rich coming from some Slate buffoon who spent 15 paragraphs trying to boil comedy down into a sophomore lit paper.

    I only know Silverman from Greg and Monk, and in both cases, she was hilarious. Her conversations with Tardy the Turtle are classic.

  92. McGehee says:

    Never heard of her before, but that article makes me want to.

    “I want to get an abortion, but my boyfriend and I are having trouble conceiving.”

    Love it.

  93. stickler for the rules says:

    Scottish rules, Brian.

  94. Knemon says:

    “I wonder if Hugh Hefner ever thought of a “Girls of SNL”?

    They actually did this on the show (but no nudity, obviously), back in the darkest days of SNL, the early late 80s – after Eddie Murphy, before Mike Meyers. 

    The lean years.  The Gilbert Gottfried years.  The *Tim Kazurinksy* years.  (The horror … the horror …)

    Featured, if I remember correctly: Mary Gross, Jan Curtis and a pre-boob-job Julia Louis-Dreyfus.

    TW: built, as in, Julia Louis Dreyfus seems to have re*built* her chestal region at some point between SNL and Seinfeld.

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