From SA:
Malaysia’s government has endorsed a university’s ruling that requires non-Muslim women to wear headscarves on its campuses, a report said on Wednesday.
The minister in charge of national unity, Maximus Ongkili, said the decision by the International Islamic University earlier this year was not a religious one, but merely part of university procedures.
“As the rule was approved by the university senate, it is not religious in nature but a matter of uniforms that must be followed. It does not breach basic human rights,” Ongkili was quoted as saying in the Star daily.
Malaysia’s population of 25 million people is dominated by some 60 percent of Muslim Malays, with Chinese and Indians making up 26 percent and 8.0 percent respectively.
The growing influence of Islam on Malaysian society over the past two decades has seen a major increase in the number of Malay Muslim women wearing headscarves as a sign of religious devotion.
Ongkili told parliament that Malaysians had to respect rules formulated by the government and other institutions to prevent social unrest.
”In a multi-racial country each community must respect one another. But at the same time we must respect the laws of the country, institutions and organisations to ensure there is no disturbance to the community,” he said.
[My emphasis]
Indeed. Because pluralism is one thing. But disturbances in the “community”? Those we can’t have.
No. Best just to rid ourselves of the offenders [warning: graphic photos].
Taking its cue from the Malaysian ruling, the Irish government quickly passed a measure requiring that all non-Irish students attending its universities remain stinking drunk during daylight hours and use the word “bollocks” at least five times a day—preferably while facing west.
(h/t Sharon)
“the decision by the International Islamic University “
what’s next?
denying me and my gay lover our god given right to attend yeshiva in the nude?
sorry about the hyperbole(sp?) but it is an islamic institution
If this was about secular institution I could feel the OUTRAGE
That’s just “cheeky” rhetoric from the happy go lucky Ahmadinejad. Pay no mind.
Brings to mind this quote from Allan Bloom’s “Closing of the American Mind”….
“Sometimes the United States is attacked for failing
to promote human rights; sometimes for wanting to
impose “the American way of life” on all people
withouth respect for their cultures. To the extent
that it does the latter, the United States does so in
the name of self-evident truths that apply to the good
of all men. But it’s critics argue that there are no
such truths, that they are the prejudices of American
culture. On the one hand, the Ayatollah was initially
supported by some here because he represented true
Iranian culture. Now he is attacked for violating
human rights. What he does is in the name of Islam.
His critics insist that there are universal principles
that limit the rights of Islam. When the critics of
the U.S. in the name of culture, and of the Ayatollah
in the name of human rights, are the same person,
which they often are, they are persons who want to eat
their cake and have it, too.
You just know that no matter what this knucklehead says or does, there will be many Americans who blame any of his actions on the U.S.
For rule #1 in the post 9-11 world is that no rational actor (or State) on the world stage does anything independent of their need to resist the imperial bully America.
Brings to mind this Madison quote just to keep the “it’s the NeoCons” crowd at bay….
“How could a readiness for war in time of peace be
safely prohibited, unless we could prohibit, in like
manner, the preparations and establishments of every
hostile nation?”
~James Madison, Federalist No. 41, January 1788
The minister in charge of national unity, Maximus Ongkili,
Maximus Ongkili – Minister in Charge of National Unity.
That’s beyond good – that’s perfect.
We men had better start doing calf raises
Hey Jeff,
FYI, DogPundit has put some really graphic photos on his front page of the beheaded girls since you put up the link. You might want to put a warning or something on your link. Christ, one of them looks like my daughter…
:peter
DogPundit also reveals that Prince Charles welcomes our Muslim overlords.
Sigh…
Britain gives us:
a.) Great rock and roll
b.) Whacking great soccer, err, football on Saturdays
c.) Neville Chamberlain and Charles, Prince of Wales
d.) All of the above
The beheading of those girls in Malaysia is beyond the pale – see the pictures for yourself. They were attacked by machete wielding cowards and killed.
Spare me any more bilge about the “religion of peace” – it’s time to eat cookies and kick Islamic terrorist ass.
And I’m fresh outta cookies.
Cheers – DC
Perhaps the non-Muslim women will find the head scarves “empowering” in some kind of multi-dimensional way.
TW: Very. As in “very likely not.”
When Muslims are outraged by norms and practices of any other culture, they want their outrages assuaged because:
, but when it is their culture, their norms that offend, there is nothing to be done because:
.
Yup, I get it.
tw: nothing new here.
Totally, Tom M.
T/W clearly, as in Clearly, Tom M.
All you who are outraged that women in a Malaysian Islamic university have to wear headscarves, are you equally outraged that women (and men) at Brigham Young University have to cover their thighs? Or is your outrage directed toward the Islamic university solely because, unlike peace-loving Mormons, Muslims tend to behead girls who don’t obey?
In other words, is your outrage really at the headscarves and the principle of upholding community standards of modesty, or are you just directing your (justifiable) outrage at a convenient target?
Am I EQUALLY outraged that BYU asks students to cover their thighs as I am at Muslims forcing non-Muslims to cover their heads (which is a religious symbol)?
No.
Totally agree about the Irish treatment of outside students, dude. Make them furriners take their medicine. Do ‘em good.
Oh, and that Blarney stone thing? I pissed on it. All the locals do.
Just so ya know. Pucker up, touristas.
SB: might
prounounced mig-ht.
This decision seems no different from France’s banning of headscarves in its schools.
…which I objected to.
Are banning and coercion similar? Some schools here ban gang colors, political tees and belly revealing tops (for males and females), etc. But is that merely the flipside of forcing one gender to cover heads, or making non-Muslims adhere to a Muslim religious custom?
The French ban of head-scarves is interesting, since on the surface it could be argued that Muslim females were being forced to follow French tradition. But the French maintained religion of any type should not be infused into their secular tradition of schooling (they said, while quickly pulling down the crucifixes here and there), and so there was at least a prioritizing of no religious expression over allowing or forcing one particular expression to predominate.
Certainly, the wearing of headscarves also raises issues of social assimilation versus Muslim political identification and passive activism in school (akin to wearing gang colors and political tees) and also those of gender discrimination, since Muslim boys don’t wear the scarves and girls are forced to by religious tradition and family. There is also the fact that wearing a headscarf can be handicapping, in that often a hand is used to hold it closed around the neck. I have seen gradeschool girls here in the States who couldn’t use both hands at most tasks because they were always holding their scarves closed with one. Apparently, some Muslims don’t believe in clips and the use of both hands for females. I never had the nerve to ask parents why their girls must struggle holding their schoolbooks and in PE class because their headscarves had no mechanical fasteners, while their boys were free to move about, learn and play without clutching their clothes as if their honor depended upon it.
WackyH: What is it that is wrong about a private, religiously-oriented university enforcing a dress code (Brigham Young University)?
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