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It’s worth pointing out that part of the reason Hamas chooses this heinous strategy is that it works: many nations of the world have taken Hamas’ part, making their approval of Hamas complicity in the killing of its own women and children an effective means to the maintenance of power among the Arabs.
Sdferr
It really exposes how much Jew-hate the rest of the world still engages in .
I saw somewhere (maybe Legal Insurrection?) one of those Prager U. vids called “The Israel Test” narrated by George Gilder which in part accounts for the differences between those who support Israel and those who hate her.
But only in part.
Darleen, you only have to read the replies to articles about Israel in the LA Times.
The Palis could be squeezing Jewish babies in a duck press for all those people care. It’s still all Israel’s fault for daring to exist.
Is Palestine is granted UN recognition, doesn’t that mean that Israel can then respond to these attacks as though they were an honest-to-Jehovah Act of War. treating Palestine like the US did to Iraq (which had the largest army in Southwest Asia on 19 March, 2003, and the 2nd-largest Army in Iraq on 20 March)?
If not, then what good is Article 51 of the UN Charter (and, by extension, the entire charter)?
*If* Palestine is… etc. (I wish I could edit these things sometimes.)
What good is the UN for that matter?
Drum
I proposed a little thought exercise to a person on if cartels in Mexico were shooting rockets into San Diego, would they maintain the USA had no right to respond.
Some idiot said “not if the USA had illegal settlements around TJ”
I pointed out that there are NO JEWS in Gaza, which is where the rockets are being fired from.
Facts are pesky things, Darleen.
It’s even worse when you try to explain to those same knuckleheads that Arabs are living, working in Israel and are also in the Knesset.
The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they’re ignorant its just that they know so much that isn’t so.
Isn’t that the truth, cranky? I’ve been reading a lot of absolute garbage that people on the left would swear on a stack of fairy tales (what most call a Bible) that we are all fortifying our homes, stockpiling ammo and . . . well, until the tragic barn fire.
Maybe that wasn’t the best example.
freakin hell, if I hear the word “proportional” one more time I’m going to put my fist through my monitor (wishing it was the face of the jew-hater who tossed it out)
Yeah, what’s the point of “proportional”? It merely allows your enemy to know how much force you will allow yourself to use. He kills 20, you kill 20, that is just a war of attrition, and the Israelis are badly outnumbered in that kind of game.
The only thing your enemy needs to know is that if he tries anything, he will get hurt. Badly. I would pay money to see Israel (or, hell, the US) to just blow the living shit out of an entire town the next time an attack occurs that kills so much as a single innocent person. Completely erase it from the surface of the planet, leaving nothing alive and nothing higher than the remaining rubble left standing. Let the yammerers yammer, because they would yammer anyway, and let the lesson stand.
“You fuck with us, you will experience the same thing. Or worse, should we choose. Don’t start shit, won’t BE shit.”
OT, and with apologies to Walt Kelly:
Proportional, hell, what you use is “The Axe Theory.”
You wanna know how to get Palestineans? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!
ms glick’s idea has bibi’s support?
Netanyahu: Two-state solution impossible, Israel on frontlines of jihad
That’s good, Geoff. Thanks.
>In the midst of the deeply unfunny news coverage of the two young British jihadi volunteers who were arrested on terror charges when they arrived back from Syria, there was one moment of comic absurdity. It seems that before setting off on their mission, Mohammed Ahmed and Yusuf Sarwar found it necessary to place orders with Amazon for those invaluable scholarly treatises, Islam for Dummies, The Koran for Dummies and Arabic for Dummies. Hilarity aside, there is something important to be noted here. <
link
achmad shoots and scores
Hamas rocket takes out Gaza electricity line in Israel, Netanyahu says not to fix it
Our Progressive Future
If the axe theory was their guide, I’m very surprised that they never launched their ballistic missiles.
isn’t a concentration of forces a problem for “the axe theory” on the ground?
just carpet bomb it.
another problem with it is fighting ww 2 in 2014
another problem with “the axe theory” is that it eliminates feed back loops to the command so that commanders on the ground who need certain resources are denied them on penalty of “death”. not a good way to obtain useful information.
Yes, thank you, Geoff, for that link.
it’s not my place to discourage the Palestinians from genociding their own people
It’s a theory, nr. It lends itself to plasticity and innovation.
> It lends itself to plasticity and innovation.<
i disagree. seems top down picking "winners and losers". there's a reason that the commies sacrifice so many millions. efficiency with given resources ain't the reason.
Wasn’t Reagan polite? These progressive are willfully ignorant and willfully delusional. They’re mentally ill and their disease is likely to kill us all.
leigh, the theory may lends itself to innovation, however, Communists are not an imaginative lot. It’s rather appalling to think a whole regiment will be left to be wiped out while the officers are sent to the rear to get fresh cannon fodder for the front.
The article also leaves the minor issue that a lot of Russian solders in WWII were sent in to battle without arms, because they were expected to take the rifles from their fallen comrades.
Proportional? OK, first thing we do is level the playing field.*
*aka Gaza.
>Every Soviet operation, from Stalingrad onwards, developed in the way water breaks through a concrete dam: a single drop seeps through a microscopic crack, and is followed immediately by a dozen more drops, after which first hundreds and then thousands of litres pour through at ever increasing speed, becoming a cataract of hundreds of thousands of tonnes of raging water. <
dude must have watched
Force 10 from Navarone (film)
Blake, I didn’t say it was necessarily a good thing.
> I didn’t say it was necessarily a good thing.<
the commie/statist/illiberal way is throw stuff at a perceived problem not fix it.
see baracky for example.
Say, did you chance to read the great piece in Commentary about why Gaza doesn’t have bomb shelters?
Man, is that Jonathan Tobin guy ever ass-toot. I meant to say astute. He really had me going visualizing tunnels all over the place underneath Gaza, honeycombed he says, stuffed with armaments to pull out on a moments notice to attack and to provide safe shelter for Hamas itself, but not for the citizens of Gaza who are made to perform as human shields above ground in their rickety structures.
He goes further in saying this is part of Israeli reticence in launching ground attacks, fraught with unseen hazards already experienced in past assaults.
And this made me wonder, is it so impossible to destroy then? In a way does that not make things even a bit easier? I can see them sectioned off down there underneath to isolate explosions, but it also seems like rats in a hole. That was the imagery that formed. Several assaults to destroy whatever is down there an by so doing destroy what is above as well, caving it in.
Anyway. Looking inward, closer to home, I dun a false prophet. It’s Gore! My favorite sanctimonious haughty douchebag whipping boy. C-student himself, presuming to instruct the rest of us while having a crap grasp of science. He does not debate, you know. Priests do not do such things. He says he’s above that, but the fact is, he can’t. 35 inconvenient truths.
Aren’t we supposed to be flooded by now?
Aren’t dinosaurs supposed to be roaming Penguinlandia by now?
Aren’t hurricanes to have ripped us apart by now?
What happened?
And he’s still banging on, even worser than worse . He’s not impressed with world leaders. I’m not impressed with him. At all.
Here’s my dealio
>It’s Gore! My favorite sanctimonious haughty douchebag whipping boy. C-student himself, presuming to instruct the rest of us while having a crap grasp of science.<
Al Gore recently shared a Canberra press conference with a prominent Queenslander. The Gore Effect instantly struck out nation’s capital, and it has now spread to Queensland:
Brisbane has hit its coldest temperatures in 103 years.
Not since July 28 1911 has Brisbane felt this cold, getting down to a brisk 2.6C at 6.41am.
Other Queensland locations have also felt the force of Gore Effect by proxy.
The piece I linked is from the 1984 book “Inside the Soviet Army” by Viktor Suvorov. I didn’t link it to say how great Soviet tactics were, though that “Cold War” is still ongoing since we now have Marxists in charge of much of our own government.
It was just to illustrate that proportional response is not the only way there is to respond. Overwhelming force to break the enemy is another way and the one I would use against Hamas.
His first book “The Liberators” is a black humor look at the Soviet forces from the inside.
> I didn’t link it to say how great Soviet tactics were, though that “Cold War” is still ongoing since we now have Marxists in charge of much of our own government. <
kinda funny what the baracky is doing at the border
ON THE BORDER ~ AL STEWART
– And of course one of the main high minded reasons the Islamists bastards use their own wives and children as targets is precisely because they know all to well the Lefty press will blare out the pics as propaganda to help the poor downtrodden Arabs. ::spit::
AL STEWART “Time Passages”
“I am profoundly shocked and revolted…..shocked I tell you to find that the religion of peace followers are acting like insane animals. Round up the usual suspects, but no profiling!
axe theory
Al Stewart — Roads to Moscow
al stewart commie/facist/nazi/illiberal loser
As we read of attacks on synagogues in Paris, it is hard not to wonder what it will take for those remaining Jews to finally leave Europe to its moral decay, and seek to find better life in other lands, not least Israel itself?
Did somebody say On the Border?
Worse still when you explain that they are in the IDF in all kinds of capacities and not much in the way of restrictions.
All in all, it looks like Israel can’t even get being an apartheid state right.
Paul Mirengoff reprints the statement of PM Stephen Harper, who is distinguished from other heads of government by his and his government’s unequivocal support for Israel’s proper use of self-defense. In Harper’s view there is no room for calls of “cease-fire” or mouthing infantilizing excuses for the Palestinian authorities — indeed, he alludes to the fact that such behavior tends to undergird and therefore prolong the wrongdoing — rather, he stands foursquare with Israel as she systematically undertakes what is necessary to put a stop to the rocket bombardments.
“UP FOR GRABS: Montrose Beach Riots; Closed By Police Order; Cops Exercise Professional Restaint”
****The trouble began brewing around 6:50PM when a 911 caller reported someone had been hit with a bottle in the 4500 block of Simonds Drive, near Montrose Harbor.
Ten minutes later, a 911 caller reported a fight involving 50 people in the same area.
Then, at 7:38PM, a 20th district police unit reported that a man with a gun was being reported within a “big party” near Wilson and Simonds. From there, the situation spiraled out of control:
7:45PM – Unit 2004F: “They’re throwing things at us…Need more cars.”
7:46PM – Sergeant: “Get out of the park. Get all policemen out of the park NOW.”
7:47PM – Unit 1905: Vehicle has been damaged
7:48PM – Unit 2004F: “Get us some fucking help over here!”
7:49PM – Unit 1901: Pull units from other districts
7:49PM – “We got an officer hit with a bottle. He’s bleeding.”
7:50PM – Shut down all roads into lakefront from Foster to Montrose.
7:51PM – Estimate the size of the crowd. “It’s quite a few hundred people.”
7:51PM – They’re still throwing bottles at the police.
7:52PM – 19th District Tactical Lieutenant: “Put in [an emergency plan] and.. get us a helicopter.”
7:55PM – The 19th district does not have any gas. If it’s needed, the only gas team would be in SWAT.
7:55PM – Respond to bait shop. We’ll stage there and go in as a large group.
7:56PM – 2 arrested at Wilson and Simonds.
7:58PM – 18th, 17th, and 16th districts will meet you at the bait shop.
7:59PM – Just so you know, the 20th district has a 10-1 [Officer needs help] at Jarvis and the lakefront right now, too.
Units from outside of the 19th district were sent back to their normal assignments at 9PM. The lakefront will remain closed all night by police order.
As of 9:15 Sunday night, more than 15 priority calls for police service in the 19th district had stacked up during the melee, waiting for officers to become available.****
David Goldman makes a case for the inevitability of the One-State Solution, come what must.
Would we not plausibly suggest that such changes are at least in part the record of accomplishment of “What a Providentially Bad President Can Do for . . . ” the world? Loose the bonds of reason and only watch the monsters emerge from underground. Encourage ignorance and stupidity and discover good men who will resist.
Angelo Codevilla: Is Israel at War?
*** But there is a deeper reason why Israeli elites have not thought of how to translate military superiority into peace through strategic victory, namely the mentality of European socialism. According to that doctrine, all of mankind (albeit at different rates) evolves through the several states of socio-economic contradictions and eventually resolves them. The distinction between Jew and Arab would matter no more in mankind’s final, socialist state than any of the other distinctions that have bedeviled mankind. This tacit assumption is among the legacies of Israel’s founding generation.
That generation, however, bequeathed a practical substitute for victory that served reasonably well: what Israelis used to call their “posture of deterrence.” In short, Israel produced something like peace by assuring Arab leaders that any attack on Israel would result not just in defeat, but in losses so disproportionate as to threaten their very domestic legitimacy. Such deterrence was the long-term objective of the 1967 and 1973 military campaigns.
And then the Israelis, under U.S. pressure, abandoned that strategic posture. It began in 1983. Israel, having been attacked by the PLO state-within-a-state in Lebanon, was in the process of destroying it in cooperation with Lebanon’s Christian government. But the U.S. government prevailed on Israel to stop. It saved the PLO, transferred it to Tunisia and Sudan, and financed it. The U.S. then acquiesced in Syria’s murder of Lebanon’s pro-American and pro Israel Christian prime minister, as well as in the murder of 241 U.S. marines in Beirut. Then, in 1993, the U.S. government helped persuade Israel that its safety lay in the so called Oslo Peace Process, which involved the creation of a de facto PLO state in the West Bank and Gaza into which terrorists from all over the Middle East found a home, subsidized by European and American taxpayers as well as by Arab states. From this de facto state as well as from a Lebanon now dominated by Hezbollah, a series of attacks on Israel have come to which Israel has been pressed to respond “proportionately.” Adieu deterrence. ***
Is it not deeply pleasing, Americans, to know that the deserter Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl has been returned to active duty while many of his fellow soldiers who are currently faithfully serving in Afghanistan are receiving pink-slips announcing a severance from their service as soon as their tours in that foreign land are complete?
What better result could a ClownDisaster wish?
Perhaps the only better result would be an Article III simple criminal trial of jihadist murderer Khalid Sheik Muhammed in a New York City court while Sgt. Andrew Tahmooressi awaits justice in Mexico?
Sdferr,
Putting my not very flattering opinion of Feldwebel Bergdahl aside, alas, until the Army concludes an Article 32 hearing and charges him with something, there is not much they can do but return him to some sort of duty; besides, even having him count paperclips is better than having him tie up a hospital bed which is likely actually needed by someone.
The RIF is a different story, but it has been known about since last year (and something that right or wrong has happened after every war – and sometimes in between). Among those selected for separation, some will be eligible for early retirement, some close to retirement will be allowed to continue to 20, others will get separation pay. During RIFs, having lived through more than one, regardless of whether an individual has (or is) deployed, it is generally not the stellar performers being separated.
Here’s the rub as far as I can see it Eingang — namely, the question of an impending charge is weeks beyond reasonable result, whereas the question of breaking the nation’s defense down into incapacity in a time of extreme peril in the world proceeds apace. There is a frightful mismatch in purpose.
is better than having him tie up a hospital bed which is likely actually needed by someone
I’m sure there are a few closets with lockable doors somewhere on the base.
Sdferr,
You will get no argument from me that I think the investigation is proceeding at a glacial pace., but the logistics of tracking down all the relevant witnesses is probably a factor.
As far as breaking down national defense goes things like the Navy laying up supply underway supply ships, or trying to axe the A-10 is a lot more troublesome than separating 1000 out of 19000 CPTs. The former have have significant operational and strategic level effects, the RIF tactical at worst.
Drum,
A closet is fine as long as he is doing something to earn his pay and allowances…actually, it is my understanding that he has two soldiers birddogging him everywhere – whether that is provide aid and comfort or to keep him from doing a runner is, alas, not clear.
. . . but the logistics of tracking down all the relevant witnesses is probably a factor.
I’m utterly unclear how this can be so, at least not so insofar as so many eyewitnesses have voluntarily stepped forward to openly submit their knowledge and testimony to the public. And yet, I can easily imagine no charges will be preferred, based on golly on knows what difficult to obtain evidence or testimony in mitigation.
“on” should be written “only”
…I’m utterly unclear how this can be so, at least not so insofar as so many eyewitnesses have voluntarily stepped forward to openly submit their knowledge and testimony to the public.
There are also witnesses who haven’t come forward. First the 15-6 has to be done to see if there will be a referral to an Article 32 hearing, which can then lead to a court martial, The entire investigation process will ferret out who among those publicly known and not publicly known are relevant. The witnesses can be anywhere, and somebody either has to depose them, or otherwise make them appear, sometimes that takes time. To complicate this case, there was the previous investigation, so that has to be reviewed.