Asking a question of a supposed fellow conservative is, according to a legion of sycophantic supposed fellow conservatives (just read through my Twitter feed today), akin to “harassment.” To “attack.” To “slapping” someone who has suffered from battered wife syndrome.
And noting that asking a question doesn’t equate at all to any of those things means, according to supposed fellow cons, you hate women, have a micro-penis, are a “fucking faggot” and a “cunt.” Supposed fellow conservatives w/ substantial Twitter followings will chime in to tell you you are “cray cray,” that you are “hostile,” that you are a pathetic psycho in need of meds, that you are a stalker of someone who, before today, you’d never even heard of. You need a good raping. Or a you should kill yourself.
Then, after a spell, these same supposed cons will group together — in a touching bit of ostentatious soul searching — and bemoan conservative on conservative violence. “Hey, you hostile psycho fucking faggot cunt with the micro penis who is off his meds and who should kill himself, or at least be raped, for being so ‘cray cray’,” they’ll cry, “Can’t we all just get along?”
That’s the state of “our” side. They are big-time defenders of liberty, or rather they lay claim to being such, yet I am their enemy. As are the few people who came to my defense, presumably, several of whom were shouted down.
These would-be activists swarm like libs. They argue like libs. They distort, they move goal posts, they allow ego to keep them from educating themselves. When cornered, they move on to ad hom first, emotional appeals later. They trot out straw man arguments. They try to break your spirit by retweeting each others’ lame arguments as if to create the feeling of overwheming consensus. In short, they’re rather poor Alinskyites. And it is they we have to put our faith in. God help us.
So. To sum up, what I learned today is precisely this: there is very little intellectual honesty left in political discourse, certainly on the left, but from my experience today, from a large swath of those who have taken on the conservative label, likely because it makes them feel like the new counterculture. They have no respect for those who came before them, and no time for anyone who questions “one of ours.”
They are the very things they claim to decry. And it is evident to almost none of them, or none of the people who follow them. Which makes it almost tragic. They followed the wrong path — and refused to even consider arguments made by someone so odious as am I.
Just another anti-intellectual, bullying hive mind. Only one that carries an R after its name.
It saddens me. Because though I can’t be bullied — and found the whole experience less like a personal rebuke than like a sociology experiment that resolved certain questions in a way that one hoped at the outset it wouldn’t — it’s clear that I’m a dinosaur. And so is classical liberalism, at least the way I’ve promoted it for over a decade here or on radio, etc.
If you look around at your putative brothers and sisters in arms, and they are sniffing their own rifles with their fingers on the trigger, you know the army you’re in doesn’t really have a snowball’s chance in hell of making a difference when the worst of the fighting breaks out. We saw some of that last election cycle, when they turned on those the left demanded they turn on and convinced themselves it was they who were making their own decisions. Useful idiots.
That most of those people who came after me today had no idea how long I’ve been active in promoting the cause of liberty just speaks to how different the internet has become. How full of self-righteous and phony “pragmatists” pretending to have any kind of sustainable set of principles it is.
It may well be time for me to bow off the stage, remembered for being the women-hating cunt psycho faggot I am. The serial harasser. The destroyer of honor. The pseudo-intellectual who specializes in fighting people on my own side for no good reason. A terrible teammate, if you will.
Still, I encourage those of you still around to steal my stuff — most of it’s been archived — and pass it along. But put someone else’s name to it if you decide to do so. That way it doesn’t come pre-poisoned.
Alrighty then.
What these “conservatives” don’t get it is that it doesn’t matter what little issue they believe in, whether it is gay marriage or that boarder jumping Paco deserves a scholarship, what matters is “rule of law” respect for the individual, fiscal responsibility, and trust & dedication to the free market (let me know if I left anything out).
As Jeff says, how we get there matters. I tell friends who knew me when I was a “liberal” that I haven’t changes what I believe in, I have stopped believing in the old system.
I had to take on a swarm of them today, all ad hom, all bullshit. And yet for doing so, I lost Twitter followers.
I don’t need people who thrive only on networking and confirmation bias. These people are afraid to be challenged. They are very much like the left in that regard.
lots of microaggression out there
I’m so inept at navigating the twitter “conversations” I still haven’t discovered the ‘favored’ picture of the marxist douche’s arm that seems to have begun the whole deal, let alone made my way through the remainder of ensuing mess.
But then, we’ve always known we’re massively outnumbered, right? Hence what I innocently regard as a rational choice to strictly limit the energy I put to arguing with manifest ignorance, there being too little time to go around even for the more productive questions and conversations.
Here again though, I find the manifestly ignorant seem to believe the attraction I find in your blog on grounds of its rationality is potentially indicative that I’m a “psycho low-life”! Woah. Does that mean that Freud won? heh.
i agree with Mr. sdferr
twitter is even more convoluted than trying to order stuff at panera bread
I got to the part where does Dustin Lach says, “Drama much?”
and I’m thinking that’s a very subjective question
but anyway as long as putative conservatives like Meghan’s coward piece of shit daddy and that Romney weirdo are around we gonna need a healthy amount of conservative on conservative animosity
I’m pretty “ept” at navigating twitter convos but can’t for the life of me find the fav’d pic either, and w/o it cannot imagine why it mattered to anyone. Was it posted as a riposte to something you said? The “.” in front of the responses interrupts the cohesion of the thread. *lost*
Twitter is insubstantial, and self-defined as such by it’s very name. There’s no deep communications purposes served, only, as you describe it, typecast insects swarming paths of swirling, fleeting pheromones.
Twitter does serve one vital purpose: instant access to breaking news and near-real-time updates from the front lines, eg #BundyRanch.
A personal rule: I don’t access Twitter by mobile device. Buzzing insects need be confined to things that can’t be hurled out of car windows!
I don’t think the picture itself is terribly material to the ensuing goofiness of the twitter swarm Joan — I was just curious what the leftist’s jab amounted to. The follow-on quickly left any context far behind, save insofar as Jeff repeatedly obliged his ignorant interlocutors (if we can dignify them with that name) with his original, merely inquisitive, question.
Ugh – Clicked the link and saw the twitter profile pic of the person lecturing you on proper political discourse: cleavage with something written above it. Didn’t bother to find the source of the tiff after reading some of the tweets – already can tell who the idiots are. Keep being outlaw, Jeff.
You don’t really want to leave that silly “Jeff @the Wolf and Raven ” asshole feeling powerful do you? C’mon. He is a german word that means a shoe in desperate need of a dog’s turd.
” it’s clear that I’m a dinosaur.”
Yeah, well… so are birds. Big deal.
Can’t be for certain from the quick glance I gave it, but looks like you disturbed a nest of yellow jackets. They are of one hive mind; evolved to defend the hive from perceived threats. Doesn’t have to be a real threat even, just the butt-hurt buzzing of one attracts the rest, who attack without any thought whatsoever.
Best to be a loner on Twitter, than run in any pack, because no matter a group’s formal intentions, they will find a way to relive high school.
Despite a little setback 65 million years ago, they still fly around and catch bugs, and shit on cars. And some of them can kick through a human torso or swim in Antarctic waters.
Dinosaurs are doing fine. They just don’t get good press.
Yeah, I get that. She went full-on rage queen and I can only guess that she felt insecure about why she fav’d it. Many times I’ll fave things as a bookmark, but I’d just say so if someone cared.
But life’s too short for lost causes. On twitter, I’ve learned to block sooner rather than later. And often. And I’ve been blocked by Nick Searcy and called all matter of horrible names by him for a polite misunderstanding. There is no remedy because he doesn’t let go. He just takes it to the nth degree because he’s expected to, and well-know consrvs will pile on, without a thought as to why. Jeff’s right about that. I’ll go toe-to-toe with anyone, but preserving good will, if possible is always worth the effort. And if you cannot, it’s just Twitter idiocy.
“They are of one hive mind; evolved to defend the hive from perceived threats. Doesn’t have to be a real threat even, just the butt-hurt buzzing of one attracts the rest, who attack without any thought whatsoever.”
Well, sure. They have to protect the knockers in the thumbnail from the impertinent twitter questions that make it angry. Like staunch true ultra-conservatives.
The pic was from some Marxist who took a selfie of his own arm flexing in the mirror. It said something to the effect of “this is what proteinwisdom thinks he looks like. He doesn’t.”
And he was right. As I told him, I’m not some scrawny little puke in a selfie with a Swatch watch. This was after he’d called me fat.
I was curious why a conservative would favorite that. I was prepared to give her the back story.
Instead she went ballistic and I hate women and have a micro penis.
Micropenis is one thing, though on consideration even that seems insignificant being as the “just the tip” strategy so frequently results in conceptions unplanned. On the other hand, them’s that’s concerned with the phenomenon seem to be of the much more consequential microcephalic human varietal, y’know, the one where there’s no tip (clue) there to be found.
Sheesh, Jeff. They’re worse than arguing with the libertarian kids who are forever saying “Well, that’s your opinion .” It’s like having a conversation with The Dude, only I don’t recall The Dude telling anyone they were being “condescending.”
It’s a variation on your twitter-fight; ask an innocent question, get scorned. Or, correct a misconception and get told you’re a know-it-all.
The Interwebs, they make you crazy.
A Swatch? Srsly?
That bad-ass must still be in high school.
>Instead she went ballistic and I hate women and have a micro penis. <
send her some anthony weiner
I’ve been blocked by Nick Searcy and called all matter of horrible names by him for a polite misunderstanding. There is no remedy because he doesn’t let go. He just takes it to the nth degree because he’s expected to, and well-know consrvs will pile on, without a thought as to why.
That’s too bad about Nick. He reacts more than ponders on Twitter, and I’ve seen other cons get thwapped inadvertently.
I didn’t see the faved pic, either, and that Raven Wolf nutter was insufferable. Not sure why Jeff kept at it with him, but then, I’m not sure why I did, either.
Almost a compulsion: they leave themselves open to SO many insults it’s hard to resist.
You don’t really want to leave that silly “Jeff @the Wolf and Raven ” asshole feeling powerful do you?
I’ve noticed that, unlike in spoken conversation, getting in the last word electronically is not the “power” position. Instead, you leave their last utterance just hanging there and you come off as the one with better things to do and they as the needy little punk.
The Interwebs, they make you crazy.
heh. So also the knuckleball. But then the knuckleball will make the knuckleball thrower crazy too, since the one true thing about a knuckleball is that no-one — including the thrower — knows where it’s going.
And then the corollary: no-one should be forced to wear a Dickey, unless maybe suffering an incapacity to just jump out the way, or lacking all fashion sense, or simply with the certain knowledge they can’t hit it, they can choose to wear it, I guess, as baserunners über alles.
I blame Charles Johnson, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Howard Johnson, Johnson & Johnson, and Johnson grass.
It’s Johnsons all the way down.
Microjohnsons.
johnson shouldn’t be blamed for sins of john
Gators. And crocs. They’ll both fucking eat you and they’ve been doing it for evah.
Fuck ’em, Jeff.
I, too, tried to wade through their puked pablum and turd-filled insults – gave up and just read as many of your responses as possible.
One good thing did come out of it for me, however: I stopped following Mzzz. Foo Foo – she showed her true bee-like mind, as it were.
But, dammit, don’t stop doing what you do. I, for one, rely on your for improving my knowledge and for inspiration in my own writings.
Fuck ’em.
I asked 1987 what it thought and it had this to say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKupOsaJmk#t=13
13 most ridiculous predictions made on Earth Day, 1970.
See when some poor Christian schlub thinks he’s calculated when Jesus comes back, and the day passes with no Jesus, he loses face.
These freaks just keep going and going and going and going.
And one ridiculous prediction not made on Earth Day 1970: that Ira Einhorn’s girlfriend would be found dead in a trunk, with Einhorn fleeing to France.
Quite. Not one person has mentioned that today, sdferr. It’s also Vladimir Lenin’s birthday.
Coincidence? I think not.
next year i want to celebrate lenin’s birthday in front of the rachel carson homestead
birds are pretty and they’re also a metaphor for freedom
(cause of they can fly)
I saw a chicken today
Twitter, as has been noted, is fine for breaking news, but is a fscked-up wasteland when it comes to dialog. I still have an account, but I gave up on it years ago. I far prefer meatspace conversations. Hell, even Facebook is better.
I’ve only been on Twitter for a few months, and wow has it been an education. I’m disgusted almost as much by the people on “our side” as by the ones on the “other side”. They all behave like Mean Girls in High School Hell. It’s really disillusioned me as to who many “conservatives” really are.
Twitter is an incredibly small pool of self-important, self-aggrandizing people talking to themselves. No one else is tuning in to their crap. I go on there now to find out what’s happening in Ukraine on the street-level, and that’s pretty much it; I’m sick of the adolescent in-fighting elsewhere on there.
I go to twitter to shit, not to eat.
speaking of eating shit this has been bugging me all day
it’s just disturbing
It’s 2009 all over again. How long before daleyrocks shows up?
Sorry that I haven’t been commenting much during the past year. I’ve been busy, but I still check in regularly.
he’s such a nice person I love him more than beans
yellow h8s orange
that’s a good point
those colors are so so so so wrong
Yang Ming Garden
that’s kind of out of my zone
That’s not a recipe that’s a stack.
If you put some orange slices on top of some cheetos you are not cooking. You are just stacking.
Louise needs to knock it off with all her disturbing paleo stackings
Joan said: But life’s too short for lost causes. On twitter, I’ve learned to block sooner rather than later. And often. And I’ve been blocked by Nick Searcy and called all matter of horrible names by him for a polite misunderstanding. There is no remedy because he doesn’t let go.
Well, Nick hasn’t changed since High School. He’s like a dog with a bone when he gets on someone’s case.
It’s twitter Jeff. So really, what do you expect?
orange in orange
>will chime in to tell you you are “cray cray,” that you are “hostile,” that you are a pathetic psycho in need of meds,<
dude so soviet
>Thus the power structure, through the agency of those who carry
out the sanctions, those anonymous components of the system, will
spew the greengrocer from its mouth. The system, through its alienating
presence in people, will punish him for his rebellion. It must do
so because the logic of its automatism and self-defence dictate it.
The greengrocer has not committed a simple, individual offence,
isolated in its own uniqueness, but something incomparably more
serious. By breaking the rules of the game,<
havel '77
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why is food stamp whoring his cheap ghetto trash ass out at the aftermath of a landslide in the middle of fucking nowhere?
he’s so pee wee herman
>He has exposed it as a mere game. He has shattered
(he world of appearances, the fundamental pillar of the system.
He has upset the power structure by tearing apart what holds it
together. He has demonstrated that living a lie is living a lie. He has
broken through the exalted facade of the system and exposed the
real, base foundations of power. He has said that the emperor is
naked. And because the emperor is in fact naked, something
extremely dangerous has happened: by his action, the greengrocer
bas addressed tbe world. He has enabled everyone to peer behind the
curtain. He has shown everyone that it is possible to live within the
truth. Living within the lie can constitute the system only if it is
universal. The principle must embrace and permeate everything.
There are no terms whatsoever on which it can coexist with living
within the truth, and therefore everyone who steps out of line denies
it in principle and threatens it in its entirety.
This is understandable: as long as appearance is not confronted
with reality, it does not seem to be appearance. As long as living a lie
is not confronted with living the truth, the perspective needed to
expose its mendacity is lacking. As soon as the alternative appears,
however, it threatens the very existence of appearance and living a
lie in terms of what they are, both their essence and their allinclusiveness.
And at the same time, it is utterly unimportant how
large a space this alternative occupies: its power does not consist in
its physical attributes but in the light it casts on those pillars of the
system and on its unstable foundations. After all, the greengrocer
was a threat to the system not because of any physical or actual
power he had, but because his action went beyond itself, because it
illuminated its surroundings and, of course, because of the
incalculable consequences of that illumination. In the posttotalitarian
system, therefore, living within the truth has more than
a mere existential dimension (returning humanity to its inherent
nature), or a noetic dimension (revealing reality as it is), or a moral
dimension (setting an example for others). It also has an
unambiguous political dimension. I f the main pillar of the system is
living a lie, then it is not surprising that the fundamental threat to it
is living the truth. This is why it must be suppressed more severely
than anything else.
In the post-totalitarian system, truth in the widest sense of the
word has a very special import, one unknown in other contexts. In
this system, truth plays a far greater (and above all, a far different)
role as a factor of power, or as an outright political force.<
havel '77
mr g. i’d like to see you on tv for an hour on beck @5 talking havel
i’d do it but screw it up;)
I wonder how that decision to cancel ABM defense systems back in ’09 is looking inside the West Wing these days.
I don’t tweet. I barely facebook. I don’t know any of the tweeters except Jeff and Di. I got a gut-full of that horseshit in chatrooms and left them squabbling over trifles a year ago Christmas. It baint worph it!
That disclaimer aside, Jeff’s guns in his twitter photo give me kerwallops of the heart. Just sayin’.
oh, and I finally have an inkling into the Great Shunning. It was because you spoke up towards Rush Limbaugh’s intent when it was cheap grace to denounce him. Is that right? I can be so dense.
Please don’t bow out. This is my favorite blog. I save it for last, like dessert.
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President Ronald Reagan – Liberty State Park
Twitter is good for wit aggregation during particularly clever hashtags.
And sometimes the PWNing is righteous enough to enjoy.
However, the swarm that went after Jeff today was easily the stupidest crew I’ve seen on the Tubez in a long time, and that’s a pretty high bar to clear.
Just when you’ve seen the stupidest thing ever, another idiot takes that as a challenge. :-o
Twitter. So much projection, so little introspection, mysteries abound.
OT:
The enemy listing via contributions continues. And Krauthammer’s view has changed.
While that certainly entered into the picture, it was more about a certain nameless blogger, who, chasing after cheap grace like it was a 100 dollar bill blowing through a trailer park and he James Carville’s fantasy of Paula Jones, ostentatiously wished Obama well, declaring him to be a “good man” who just wanted what was best for America, just like us in fact, –unlike that mean Limbaugh fellow, who was obviously acting out of racial animus as revealed to the aforementioned nameless blogger according to carefully crafted reader polls.
The fallacies in the nameless blogger’s positions should be obvious to anyone who’s followed Jeff for any length of time.
What somebody really needs to do is a column on how lawfare-ish abuses of the law for political ends inevitably lead to warfare-ish abuses of the commonwealth for similiar ends.
Hey Jeff, at least Da Tech Guy took your side in that fight. That’s gotta count for something.
“And Krauthammer’s view has changed.”
It seems that Young Master Charles is finally growing up. Again. (Fritz Mondale must be so proud!)
Twitter makes me realize what the Cramps, the Meat Puppets, the Flame Trick Subs, the Misfits, and the Butthole Surfers were trying to warn me about from the stage of the Cannibal Club all those years ago.
The stupid was a-growing all around me and I never knew it till it blocked out the #@$%ing sun and tried to sell me its farts.
BTW orange crisp carrots are part of a paleo diet since they were bred in the 1600’s in the Netherlands as a patriotic stunt to make a vegetable the same color as the flag of the Dutch royal family the House of Oranje-Nassau.
The modern cultivated root vegetable carrot began as a softer maroon root resembling a long fat beet, planted in Afghanistan, Persia(Iran), and India. it dates back to around 900 AD. That’s almost a millennium after Christ. That’s not even classical much less paleo. Before that breed, the root portion was much smaller, ignored, often thought to be toxic, and instead the leaves were harvested to be eaten as flavor herbs like dill and fennel.
I read that in my old Ag text book.
No, the book was not made out of silver. It’s an abbreviation for agriculture, of if you are really angry, maybe aggroculture.
BTW orange crisp carrots are part of a paleo diet –> NOT part of
“Forget it, Jake. It’s Twittertown.”
To add to what Ernst wrote above, Oy Vey Maria: the treatment Jeff received at the hands of ‘Illuminated Conservatives’ was disgusting, but it did have the effect of showing, for all the conservative world to see, just who ‘got it’ about the Left In America and who was utterly clueless.
For me, at least, that was important because the stakes were so high for the survival of this country.
Further, the incident showed that Jeff is a man of principle and Honor.
I pretty much concur with everyone here. But I’ve got to add one thing:
Jeff – try your best not to take it personally, despite that it’s meant that way. Because, yes, shibboleth or not, they do win if you pack up and go.
The facts are these – maybe 5-7% of the country is smart and logical. The rest are not. Humans have the capability to be logical, but most either won’t, or can’t be. Take some solace that you, and most of the commenters here, belong in the 5-7% category, and those blithering idiots you argued with are in the other.
I can empathize as I’ve had similar experiences. You may find this hard to believe, but I once visited often a conservative blog back during the days of the 2004–2005 Iraq Era. I wanted to express my reservations about the motives of Bush and Cheney as well as serious doubts about the long-term effects of nation-building in the middle east. Because these stances were unpopular at the time with True Conservatives, I was called a wimp, a loser, a faggot, a pussy, and many other horrible insults. I was also ‘swarmed,’ and certain lies were mindlessly repeated by the users of the site, lies to the effect that I was an unemployed virgin living in my parent’s basement and so socially maladjusted that I had never, nor could ever, hope to get a job. (*while in truth I was employed and making nearly $45,000 annually) Ultimately it was decided by the conservative swarm that my opposition to Bush Jr. stemmed from my secret desire to live in a world ruled by an overclass of Muslims because I had a homosexual obsession with “strong brown men” and wanted to be sexually subjugated to their perverted whims. This site was one you know, in fact, it was called Protein Wisdom. Look in the mirror, Jeff. You are not a dinosaur, you’re the pioneer of the very brand of childish shit you now pretend to disdain. They learned it by watching you! Protein Wisdom is not a site that people visit in order to hear modern Buckleys and Goldwaters argue respectfully about real issues. It’s the site that people go to if they want to read some cheap crap about Corey Feldman’s corpse, Flukesluts, and asshole-riding niggerfaggots while a cheeky pikachu cheers from the sidelines. If you can’t see that, you simply have no objectivity whatsoever. Look at what you are and not what you wish or claim to be. And if you ever do decide to pull the plug on this thing and join the 86,000,000 workers of this country it might be a good move for all involved.
But taking advice from a pseudonymous commenter still suffering from ten-year-old butthurt wouldn’t be wise.
now let’s dance it out are you ready
kick kick step slide
i kinda did the carrot thing but I improvisered
i did the carrots with olive oil and some sweet curry and salt n pepper like they were loose incohesive hash browns
and just as they started to brown I did 2 over easy eggs on top
it was fine – it’s an acceptable way to get rid of extra shredded carrot before it goes bad I guess, even if carrots are just a big goddamn hoax what’s been perpetrated by Big Carrot
I lost patience years ago with pretty much anyone, “on our side” or not, who devotes more energy to scoring status points than to promoting ideas.
But then, that’s easy for me; I have no status to score points for.
Asshole riding whats? Penetrated by Big Carrot? What did I miss?
You gotta remember that these fucking guys don’t give a shit about anything other than their team winning the big game. They’re like Patriots fans with a smaller capacity for embarrassment and self-reflection. These are the dickheads that took over the TP in ’09 because Sean Hannity said to.
Fuck ’em all. BTW, Goldwater? I fucked him.
I’m voting for the asteroid.
and the long fat beet.
Maybe I’ll write a children’s book. “The Asteroid and the Long Fat Beet; a Children’s Primer on How to Get Fucked By the Republican Party or Be an Illegal Alien Child-rapist or Just Look Like One, Your Guide to Have Your Vote COUNT!”
It’s nice that he thinks that Jeff was such an influential role model for others, though.
That read a little bit like Penthouse Forum, only without the sex.
Prose so bad that it should be bronzed to immortalize it, and to serve as an eternal testimony on how not to write.
The phrase “strong brown men” is not to be found at Protein Wisdom until it was used in this thread.
I’m not surprised. Butthurt moby is butthurt, and actual history be damned.
What could evoke (not to say escape) the elementary-school playground better than a straightforward, even shameless, tu quoque, albeit a tu quoque sufficiently vague, sufficiently empty as to attribute generalized characteristics to possibly innocent individuals? And only notice how easy that is.
Or how blithely the true identity of work or worker can be ascertained in the absence of any knowledge at all?
Possibly better, I think: leave the elementary-school playground behind.
The facts are these – maybe 5-7% of the country is smart and logical. The rest are not. Humans have the capability to be logical, but most either won’t, or can’t be.
I’m with Callahan. “Our side” has just as many mental midgets as any other side, if only because of Sturgeon’s Law.
There is a very small slice of humanity who influence and set the course for the masses. The important thing is getting through to this bunch, getting enough of them on board, so that the unthinking hordes follow them in the right direction.
” Quite. Not one person has mentioned that today, sdferr. It’s also Vladimir Lenin’s birthday. Coincidence? I think not”
Heh. Also the birthday of some 1/365.25 of the Earth’s population, ever since we started using this particular calendar variant. Including but not limited to… )
I wanted to express my reservations about the motives of Bush and Cheney as well as serious doubts about the long-term effects of nation-building in the middle east. Because these stances were unpopular at the time with True Conservatives, I was called a wimp, a loser, a faggot, a pussy, and many other horrible insults.
I was around in those days, and I remember a number of people who offered a measured reluctance to entanglements in the Mideast. They were one side of a spirited debate that ultimately left me rather ambivalent about the policies.
I also remember a large number of Bush-bashers who offered a lot of sound and fury, signifying nothing. I do recall the community mocking those commenters mercilessly for the shallow, facile attempts at persuasive argument.
If, Sir Cod, you were one of the former, then I’m sorry that you were treated so poorly. But if, as I suspect, you were one of the latter, then I regret nothing. There is no rule here that says we must suffer fools gladly; not even when they are too foolish to recognize their foolishness.
Oh, is that thor? He describes himself perfectly, except the 46K salary bit. Thor’s lucky if he still has that Wal-Mart greeter job. Better people should always crowd out the losers. Darwin mentioned that in passing, as I recall.
46K would be way too low for him to brag about, after all his IQ was above 3 sigma as self described too.
freshovenbakedcodfish
Whomever, h8r.
Wait. 46k?
OK. Hold on.
Very good. Not genius, but very good.
I drive a Dodge Stratus!
Thor wouldn’t object to being called a pussy. He would instead change the subject and throw in a few mentions of current and past Russian hooker girlfriends.
Ah. It’s the pos
teur formerly known as Leo Tolstoy’s War and Peace. I had forgotten about that one.So it has to do with this? But that’s 2010 not 2005.
I grew carrots once, like a farmer I was. Prettiest little patch ever. At each stage of growth a carrot patch is interesting. Not a line, those are boring, a patch! They grow as delicate ferns, then as lovely stately ferns. They are not ferns of course but they look that way in a patch. And if the soil is loose they will grow straight and strong. And the best part, the best best BEST part is, when the patch is grown tall and the wind tilts their tops they can be gathered by the greens and yanked straight out of the dirt, sprayed off and eaten right there.
But perhaps you do not like orange.
In that case I recommend parsnips.
Parsnips are white and better than carrots.
The twitter picture I saw was the priest talking about the bible gays/divorce equivalency and Jesus says love thy neighbor, and I do.
But I don’t care much for nitwit bastards on Twitter with micro-penis, get that, a person with no penis traducing a regular penis as micro.
I prefer the term “pixie-dick” micropenis is too scientific, insufficiently base.
Once I saw a big fat guy a micro penis at the gym. Walking around proudly displaying his flab. One can only handle a glance or one turns into a pillar of salt but that glance revealed something like an inverted dick, like he pushed the head in and kept pushing and pushing until the sad thing disappeared inside. That is what the slot looked like. Three of us saw the guy and we couldn’t speak for a week. <— possible exaggeration.
Nothing like a trip down memory lane. I remember it well.
I wish I had more money to throw at you.
I just went back and re-read that, geoffB, and yes, it’s completely indicative of how cowardly the shunners were.
More importantly though, and I never made a huge deal of it, I did in fact confront Scott J at Blogcon. I asked him if he had anything he’d like to say to me. Or if he’d like to show “JeffyG” he wasn’t quite the badass he pretends to be.
He didn’t. He kept his eyes lowered. And he was quite polite. After that, I’ve not heard a peep out of him.
So even the thesis of the post you linked is wrong. I put an end to the perpetual bullying by confronting it head on. And it knew better than to take things into meatspace with me again.
Without an ankle being broken or an ACL snapped.
freshovenbakedcodfish —
Yes, I’m sure I called you all those things, and that the site has never catered to intellectual argument or even used leftist guest posters from time to time.
Or, move up a post, click the links, then repeat your bullshit.
Not a broken ankle or even the dreaded c*ckslap.
Thank you, Ernst and Bob. I couldn’t sleep last night for thinking this over. And over and over!
I was here, reading along, following links the whole time. I saw how patient Jeff was. I saw how kind he was. I guess I just assumed the truth would prevail and and people would see it when they cooled off. I was dealing with an avalanche of deaths during those years, aunts, uncles, friends, neighbors, even my dad’s ugly mistress. I could barely think, much less focus.
I am understanding now. Thanks for your kind explanations. I am so grateful.
I love this blog.
freshovenbakedcodfish, you’re thinking of Corey Haim’s ghost in “heaven”.
Corey Feldman is still alive, if you can call still wearing leather wristbands and an eyes wide shut mask while running a low-fi knock off of the Playboy mansion out of your large but aging 80’s furnished Hollywood house at 40+ being still alive.
Also, BULLSHIT!
“and just as they started to brown I did 2 over easy eggs on top”
Did you flip them into the air Carney-kid style?
Let’s just say, RI, he wanted no part of me. For all his bluster, the real world was staring at him. Or glaring from about 6 inches away from his face, is probably more accurate. And it was pissed and ready.
We were told how untoward my behavior was, and how dangerously psychotic I am. Yet the truth is, that’s all stuff meant to marginalize me. Were I really that way I would have done what I wanted to do to him.
But I didn’t, because he seemed shrinkingly contrite and was awful quiet.
And people thinking tearing phonebooks or bending nails has no practical purpose.
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i did NOT even try to flip them as I’m 62% less awesome than the Carney kid
and I have to own that
Hm. Which one of the trolls is the baked fish one and why isn’t he posting links to the awful, awful treatment he claims?
Oh wait: It might reveal some… embellishment on his part if he did that and it might not make him look like the poor martyred soul he wants to be seen as.
(I’m guessing it’s Phoenician in the time of the Romans or whatever pretentious name that got so easily mocked back then.)