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UC Berkeley illegal alien students “F**k your ‘loans’. Just hand over the damned money.” [Darleen Click]

Takes “entitlement mentality” to a whole other level.

Less than a week after receiving more information regarding the allocation of UC President Janet Napolitano’s $5 million initiative to aid undocumented students, UC Berkeley administrators are already developing a plan to fund enhanced student services and expand financial aid opportunities for these individuals.

Napolitano outlined the allocation of the initiative in a letter sent to the chancellors Dec. 18. According to the letter, UC Berkeley will receive $660,000 in total, $250,000 of which will go toward funding more student services such as resource centers and advising programs. The remaining $410,000 will be used for financial aid, which is to be split between work-study positions and a loan program for undocumented students. […]

Sophomore Ivan Villasenor Madriz, an undocumented student, spoke with representatives from the UC Office of the President and other undocumented student representatives across the UC campuses in a conference call the evening of Dec. 18.

Madriz said the students raised concerns about the use of the funds for loans rather than other types of aid such as grants and work-study. He said loans should not be considered “aid” because they are only increasing student debt and putting more pressure on students.

“The loans that are given out are making one hole to fill another,” he said. “It defeats the purpose of so-called ‘financial aid.’ ”

Activist group BAMN shares similar sentiments. David Douglass, a UC Berkeley BAMN leader, said the UC Regents should call for a Federal Dream Act.

“We think that the 5 million dollars will have an impact,” Douglass said in an email, “if the money goes directly into the pockets of undocumented students.”

h/t Top Right News

128 Replies to “UC Berkeley illegal alien students “F**k your ‘loans’. Just hand over the damned money.” [Darleen Click]”

  1. leigh says:

    Heck of a job, Jerry.

    That money will go walking and those “students” won’t attend one class.

  2. Drumwaster says:

    Meanwhile prisons are closing and “only mildly violent” criminals are being released in droves for lack of funds.

    Heckuvajob, Moonbeam!

  3. leigh says:

    I feel like my mother is safer already, Drum. Good thing she’s heavily armed and a real dead-eye.

  4. Darleen says:

    Meanwhile prisons are closing and “only mildly violent” criminals are being released in droves for lack of funds.

    You don’t know the half of it, Drum.

  5. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    That money will go walking and those “students” won’t attend one class.

    Indeed, but they will probably still be given diplomas. Social justice, you know.

  6. leigh says:

    Well, Eingang, all we have to do then is pay them not to do their jobs. It’s so . . . Soviet.

  7. dicentra says:

    OT: I need a reality check, if you would.

    Been debating some folks on Twitter who point to the verse in Genesis where God puts two lights in the firmament, the greater to rule the day and the lesser to rule the night.

    But, see, the moon isn’t a light source; it’s a reflector only. So the Bible is a lie. Because omniscient God.

    They genuinely cannot understand why I object to that reading.

    Are they really this dim?

  8. newrouter says:

    posted on another thread but “ruining class” goes forward

    Chris Christie trumpets signing of Dream Act in Union City

  9. sdferr says:

    Are they really this dim?

    Ignoring the pun, I’d venture a yes to that. What, you desire them to reflect on themselves, to say nothing of the intent of some ancient Jews?

  10. newrouter says:

    >But, see, the moon isn’t a light source; it’s a reflector only.<

    yes the moon "transmitting light" is a lie. is bracky "transmitting lies" the truth?

  11. newrouter says:

    einstein’s signal propagation is a fun fact and also pistachios

  12. dicentra says:

    Bill Nye made that assertion on Politically Incorrect awhile back. I had no idea that everyone on the planet couldn’t see how stupid it was.

    He also said that Genesis was written in “Sanskrit or something,” thus revealing more ignorance.

    They cannot wrap their minds around the idea that both creationists and their detractors are making the same stupid mistake by performing a scientific reading on a decidedly non-scientific text written by an ancient mythopoetic people whose definition of “truth” bears no resemblance to positivism.

    Which was NOT attributed to The Hand Of God in the first place, so “but why doesn’t God know that the earth isn’t flat” isn’t even a remotely good argument.

    There are plenty of arguments to make against the Bible’s historicity or standing as scripture, and they’re mucking around with that.

    Why don’t such arrogant bastards live up to their self-assessment, just once? My Kingdom for an argument against religion that isn’t facile, full of untested assumptions, and just plain stupid.

  13. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    Are they really this dim?

    Yes, because progs in general cannot fathom any frame of reference than their own, which is that of a city dweller to whom the moon is just a dim circle in the sky.

    Having been in the not too distant past in the middle of nowhere in a sparsely populated country whose name you would recognize instantly, with zero light pollution (not unlike Biblical times), you really could read by moonlight even if not full. The moon, therefore, is both a metaphorical and literal light.

  14. Blake says:

    Dicentra, sounds like you’re debating people looking for an excuse to have an excuse for their behavior.

    As far as they’re concerned, no God = no one to ultimately answer to.

  15. LBascom says:

    Calling these people “undocumented immigrants’ isn’t just a lie, it’s a damned lie. They have no more intention of “immigrating” than I have of living on the moon. They are ridiculously proud of being Mexicans, and that’s what we should start calling them; Mexican nationals. They fly the flag, speak the language, listen to the music, follow the culture, and have zero interest in assimilating into the USA.

    Even “illegal alien” doesn’t work anymore, now that out rulers have decided legality is a outdated formality best not talked about in polite company. And took Arizona to court for enforcing federal immigration law, plus, I can’t help think, the irony.

    Seriously, whenever you hear or read stories in the weeks and months ahead, when undocumented immigrant’ is mentioned, substitute, “Mexican national”. it won’t be 100% accurate, but it will be about 95%, and gives the proper context to the discussion.

    Notice how the border isn’t even in the negotiations anymore? Now it’s about amnesty, and anything less will be hailed as the greatest victory since Phil Robertson didn’t get kicked off his TV show.

    I gotta say, the bottom isn’t much further down…

  16. William says:

    I’ve always enjoyed the fact that if we’re going to go “strict, scared, and unprepared” for how they wrote the Bible, you’re stuck more or less immediately with God creating man twice.

  17. dicentra says:

    Actually, they were looking to entertain themselves at the Christers’ expense.

    There are as many paths to atheism as there are atheists; some come by it honestly, others less so. Just as with belief. I can’t say one way or the other whether this atheist or that is avoiding responsibility or if s/he really hasn’t any reason to believe. Or a good one not to.

    However, it really pisses me off how arrogant they are. There’s nothing wrong with saying: “yeah, I looked into it, but it doesn’t float my boat,” and then leave it at that.

    No, these types are truly bullies, using logical fallacies a diestra y siniestra and laughing it up as the believers try to negotiate the false paradigm they’ve set up.

    I wish Twitter, with its daily tweet limits, were a better forum to dismember them.

  18. dicentra says:

    you’re stuck more or less immediately with God creating man twice.

    The LDS understand that as first the spiritual creation, second the physical.

    YMMV.

  19. happyfeet says:

    why couldn’t the homeland heifer just drag her chunky butt back to Arizona and fuck up the universities there

  20. Drumwaster says:

    Calling these people “undocumented immigrants’ isn’t just a lie, it’s a damned lie.

    Calling them “undocumented immigrants” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”.

  21. LBascom says:

    Calling them “undocumented immigrants” is like calling a rapper a musician.

  22. dicentra says:

    drag her chunky butt back to Arizona and fuck up the universities there

    She’s not dead yet.

  23. palaeomerus says:

    Rapists become nonconsensual sexual partners. Murderers becomes unethical life ending proceduralists.

  24. palaeomerus says:

    A thief becomes an unconventional unilateral trade specialist.

  25. newrouter says:

    if jan were a man?

  26. newrouter says:

    jan n. is a demonrat jamie g with big butt

  27. happyfeet says:

    she’s so gross

    i think it was like yesterday she finally game out in support of same sex marriage

    she’s amazingly cowardly even for someone who dedicated her whole entire sexually repressed sad life to being a cowardly fascist whore

  28. happyfeet says:

    *came* out in support I mean

  29. newrouter says:

    jan n. is soooo gay. burpbank.

  30. palaeomerus says:

    Do you understand NOW?

  31. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    Happyfeet, though I am no fan of Napolitano, what is your main malfunction that you cannot speak of women (with the exception of women with dubious character such as Madonna, Brittney Spears, and the like) without the name calling ?

  32. Drumwaster says:

    It’s how his mother refers to the competition for favored street corners, and he just can’t break the habit.

  33. happyfeet says:

    Madonna is getting all the KatyCats to help make the freedom more better

    she’s a good egg in my book

  34. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    she’s a good egg in my book

    You didn’t answer the question, so I will repeat it, why are you unable to refer to women, other than those you are a fanboi of, without calling them whores & sluts ?

    Aside from being annoying, it really does detract from anything useful you might add.

  35. happyfeet says:

    Janet Napolitano is a butt-ugly sow-titted fascist piece of shit I think Mr. Ausfahrt

    that doesn’t mean you can’t have a different opinion of her

  36. happyfeet says:

    I believe that 2014 can be a year of great social change. Together we can all stand up for Human Rights.

  37. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Been debating some folks on Twitter who point to the verse in Genesis where God puts two lights in the firmament, the greater to rule the day and the lesser to rule the night.
    But, see, the moon isn’t a light source; it’s a reflector only. So the Bible is a lie. Because omniscient God.

    That kind of thinking will turn you into Bart Ehreman.

  38. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’ve always enjoyed the fact that if we’re going to go “strict, scared, and unprepared” for how they wrote the Bible, you’re stuck more or less immediately with God creating man twice.

    The LDS understand that as first the spiritual creation, second the physical.
    YMMV.

    What you have there is two different accounts of Creation, and those superstitious hick Isrealites had enough respect, i.e., what you might call fidelity to the sources to include both accounts.

    Which makes those superstitious hillbilly hicks way more sophisticated than Bill Nye, Bart Ehreman and all the other literalists.

  39. happyfeet says:

    we worship an awesome God in the blue states and we don’t like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states

  40. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    You truly are a minestrone hoagy, Happyfeet, and your own worst enemy when it come to being taken seriously.

  41. dicentra says:

    Which makes those superstitious hillbilly hicks way more sophisticated than Bill Nye, Bart Ehreman and all the other literalists.

    Illiterate peasants on the Bolivian Altiplano have a more clear-eyed understanding of the Bible than Bill Nye.

    Hell, the grit in my shoe has a better understanding than Bill Nye, but that’s just rubbing it in.

  42. dicentra says:

    Bart Ehreman

    Never heard of him.

    Is that good?

  43. happyfeet says:

    you just mad cause of stuff i said

  44. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Probably Di. He’s a popular professor of Biblical Studies/Theology/Early Christianity somewheres in North Carolina who’s popular precisely because he tells the world what the world wants to hear about the Gospels in particular, but also the rest of the Bible.

    Using the world in the same sense that Paul, Peter and John used it.

    I used him as an example because he was one of those Baptist-y (I don’t know of the top of my head if he was a Baptist or something else) who believed in the literal truth of Bible, just as God transmitted it (which is why he knew God spoke the English of King James, of course). That is, until he got to college, and discovered that the text has a history, and concluded from that that it was all bullshit. Poor soul.

  45. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    No, I have no fondness for Napolitano either, it is the way you say it, particularly because you use it for nigh all women.

    It is a sad thing indeed that you apparently cannot see that failing to make a distinction between the good and bad renders your opinion and thoughts about either totally irrelevant.

  46. happyfeet says:

    you’re overgeneralizing

  47. dicentra says:

    That is, until he got to college, and discovered that the text has a history, and concluded from that that it was all bullshit. Poor soul.

    I see that a lot. People fail to make the transition from their child-like understanding of religion to a more mature one, instead figuring that their immature conceptual framework was the enchilada, the whole enchilada, and nothing but the enchilada. They don’t realize that they were just kids, and so of course God was Santa Claus without the suit.

    I’ve found that I’ve had to reevaluate and rethink and reenvision my conceptual framework regarding my faith over and over as life teaches me new lessons and my mind is expanded by experience.

    Had I written an exposition on religion at 15, I’d now find most of it cute but naive. And at 90, I hope I find my current understanding to be just as immature.

  48. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Haters gotta hate Eingang, whaddya gonna do?

  49. Ernst Schreiber says:

    . People fail to make the transition from their child-like understanding of religion to a more mature one, instead figuring that their immature conceptual framework was the enchilada, the whole enchilada, and nothing but the enchilada.

    I would put it this way: faith without reason is brittle; reason without faith is brutal.

    But that’s just me.

  50. BigBangHunter says:

    – Its pretty obvious that the Lefturds, and their yellow menace groupie, all graduated from Fosters home for imaginary rights.

  51. BigBangHunter says:

    – Where does it say that G_d was referring to “our” sun and moon?

    – The biggest problem with trying to debate the materialists is they simply can’t begin to think on a large enough scale.

    – Probably why G_d doesn’t even try to make the morons understand things.

  52. BigBangHunter says:

    – On a related note the Honey Boo Boo clan was involved in a traffic accident recently.

    – Fortunately minimal injuries are reported for everyone in the family. Thank goodness they are all still stupid, fat, and ugly.

  53. palaeomerus says:

    Honey Booboo child > Fallujah in the hands of Al Qaeda affiliates.

  54. […] » UC Berkeley illegal alien students “F**k your ‘loans’. Just hand over the damned money.” » College Loans Not Good Enough for Illegal Aliens […]

  55. mondamay says:

    A story for happyfeet, since he finds such imagery risible.

  56. McGehee says:

    Hmmm. If the moon isn’t a source of light because it only reflects the light of the sun, then neither, in her way, was Mother Teresa — since she only reflected God’s light.

    Yet somehow she illuminated thousands of lives…

  57. Physics Geek says:

    So “fuck you, pay me” is how things are done now. Good to know.

  58. Mueller says:

    Eingang Ausfahrt says January 7, 2014 at 10:58 pm
    You truly are a minestrone hoagy, Happyfeet, and your own worst enemy when it come to being taken seriously.
    – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52399#comments

    It’s not meant to be taken seriously.

  59. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    A story for happyfeet, since he finds such imagery risible.

    Interesting, seeing as how prostitution is legal in Peru. However, though the votaries of Mohammed are not in great numbers in Peru, they are gaining in numbers throughout South America (e.g., Abu Nidal presence in Peru), so one has to wonder if the Decentralized Committee of Urban Rounds of Cajamarca, which has a tenor not unlike Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, is in any way fronted by them.

    I suppose they could also be Incan separatists looking to bring back their glory days, or just plain thugs, but the comparison is still interesting.

  60. happyfeet says:

    I don’t know about the whores they look a lil dirty and chubby not unlike janet napolitano

    however comma

    i heard the food is sort of on deck to have a good year in 2014

    there’s a Peruvian place in my hood here what I’m gonna try hopefully this week if things slow down

    me and a foodie foodie hipster were talking about this yesterday and it was decided that a good first experience would be to try the beef lomos (even though the noodles look kind of more interesting to me)

    however comma

    if I get there and it’s all a bunch of whores what look like janet napolitano in a mini skirt

    I chase them with my whip!!!

  61. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    Mueller,

    It’s not meant to be taken seriously.

    From the above, I get your point.

    Its points, such as they aren’t, rather more like a 6 year old shouting “doodie!” to get the attention of the adults – not so much.

  62. serr8d says:

    ‘feets, you hate women so much, why?

    Wasn’t your mom a woman? Was she too a whore?

    This all needs proper psychoanalyzing. Seek you a couch, pronto, or your life will be miserable for it’s duration.

    Remember, you can’t reach doughnut heaven without understanding the hole of it.

  63. serr8d says:

    Oh, and if you’ve safely eaten breakfast or lunch, feast your eyes on this. )

  64. leigh says:

    Happy has issues with women that should be explored with a therapist.

    There is a good guy in there. He’s just a big ball of mad most of the time.

  65. serr8d says:

    He’s just a ball of mad most of the time.

    FTFY. I don’t think ‘big’ is an apt descriptive of ‘feet’s ball(s). )

  66. leigh says:

    I was quoting my grandma.

    I like happy. I just wish he’d stop trying so hard to be a hipster douche and figure out who he is.

  67. Drumwaster says:

    And if… no, “when” it turns out that he is actually nothing but a hipster douche?

  68. happyfeet says:

    i’m not a hipster at all I promise I just have to pay attention to them cause of work

    which is not to say that nespresso isn’t the best thing ever

  69. Squid says:

    This all needs proper psychoanalyzing. Seek you a couch, pronto, or your life will be miserable for its duration.

    I wouldn’t mind his suffering such a fate, really. It’s the lives of all those around him that I worry about. Starting with me, of course.

  70. happyfeet says:

    if you need a hug just ask

  71. leigh says:

    Do it for the turtles, happy.

  72. Drumwaster says:

    It’s turtles all the way down.

  73. happyfeet says:

    the turtles are staying in today

    it’s not supposed to be super cold but I forgot to feed them last night and I’d rather not feed them outside cause of if they don’t eat it all it can attract mices come evening

    you know how it is

  74. Eingang Ausfahrt says:

    Every time you call a woman a whore or slut God kills a baby turtle, Happyfeet.

  75. serr8d says:

    I too like ‘feets, Leigh, but I have a more special place next to my heart for the wimmens. Can’t understand ‘men’ who so flagrantly and belligerently attack and viciously demean women, no matter what they’ve done to ‘deserve’ such abuse.

    Next you know, he’ll be beating his turtles.

  76. leigh says:

    Being a wimmin, myself, I often get upset with his vulgar characterization of our lady parts.

    If he starts beating up his turtles, we’re friend-breaking up and I want my CDs back. My friendship bracelet, too.

  77. McGehee says:

    Next you know, he’ll be beating his turtles.

    As long as he doesn’t demand approval for it…

  78. McGehee says:

    And I sure as hell don’t bake cakes for turtle beaters.

  79. dicentra says:

    The biggest problem with trying to debate the materialists is they simply can’t begin to think on a large enough scale.

    It’s like trying to explain the color wheel to the congenitally blind. “How do you know the difference between red and green?” and not being able to provide an answer that could possibly satisfy them.

    So they smugly figure they’ve proved that YOU’RE the fool.

  80. leigh says:

    di, it is incredibly frustrating to argue with the unbelievers, particularly if they are lapsed religious. It’s usually a combination of factors that leads them in the wrong direction and away from God. The only thing to do is offer comfort and don’t get sucked into tangential arguments about shellfish and Leviticus.

    When they start trying to redefine sin, it’s best to remind them that we are all sinners and leave it at that. Debating the finer points of their Shoebox God concept is usually an exercise in futility. Trying to explain that God is so much more than they can imagine, the Alpha and the Omega and all that, usually falls on deaf ears.

    Carry on, my sister.

  81. dicentra says:

    Mostly I’m sticking with “your reading of Genesis is just as flawed as the Creationists’.”

    Which tends to explode heads, because they fancy themselves as So Much More Enlightened. They don’t like being told that they are making exactly the same mistake as those they criticize.

  82. leigh says:

    I got in a real flamefest with some GLAADsters during the DD thing. It’s amazing how quickly they devolve into “yeah? well fuck you!” when you point out that neither the Pope or Phil Robertson is making stuff up out of whole cloth. Correcting them about thinking the Catholic church is going to be down with gay marriage doesn’t go a lot better. Go to insult: pedophile priests.

    It gets so tiresome.

  83. dicentra says:

    Why do they care what the Bible says about homosexuality? They can just chuck the whole thing as a pack of lies.

    But this is like Liberation Theology: Must. Hijack. Belief. Of. Others.

    Proggs hate the rival belief systems because they can’t control/persuade people who are relying on an authority beyond their reach. Drives ’em mad.

  84. Drumwaster says:

    “It is possible to believe in something and yet fail to live up to it.”

  85. leigh says:

    It’s fun to point that out to them, di, and to ask them why they fear something they so obviously don’t believe in? Doesn’t that point to the fact that there is truth in the hated words and that it makes them angry? Or at the very least, they have doubts about mocking the teachings?

    If I thought the Bible was a pack of lies, I certainly wouldn’t care what it had to say about anything.

  86. mondamay says:

    To a prog the Bible and the Constitution have a lot in common: Both are flawed. Both have inconvenient passages that need to be interpreted away. Both have wacky adherents who need to be reeducated. Most importantly, both have some vague sections which can be pulled out of context and overemphasized against the spirit of rest of the document and used to endorse government expansion.

  87. dicentra says:

    They care about the Bible because it’s an authoritative text that calls them sinners and abominable ones at that, and as long as that text has caché among their detractors, it must be destroyed.

    Destroy the Bible; destroy opposition to SSM.

  88. leigh says:

    mondamay, Tamara Holder was doing that last night on Hannity’s show. Selectively quoting Jesus as shakedown artist who was all about raising taxes on the rich™.

    She got told, in stereo, that Jesus said “There will be poor always.” I turned it off shortly after that.

  89. Drumwaster says:

    “There will be poor always.”

    “In the world of billionaires, the guy with a measly $900 million is a schmuck.”

  90. leigh says:

    Since we have the richest poor people in the world, I’m not losing any shut-eye over the American poor.

  91. palaeomerus says:

    “i’m not a hipster at all I promise I just have to pay attention to them cause of work ”

    That’s how they infect you.

    You see them bopping around at work looking bored and disconnected with everyone else, and you wonder what they have on their mix tape in their huge Sanyo “fake walkman” portable player that doesn’t even flip the tapes.

    Suddenly you are on a rotting back porch in a bad neighborhood, making irregularly hexagonal pizza boats with the “wrong” kind of dough while listening to a bootlegged service tape from The Process Church of the Final Judgment (so creepy yet kind of dream like), and wearing paisley socks with Vans. You are thinking of shopping for a beret the color of Bordeaux wine with a white racing stripe down the middle as soon as you are sure that no one else you know has one.

    At that point they have you.

  92. dicentra says:

    She got told, in stereo, that Jesus said “There will be poor always.” I turned it off shortly after that.

    IIRC, Jesus was telling Judas Iscariot to lighten up about the woman anointing Jesus’ feet with expensive balm. Judas sneered that she should have sold it and given the money to the poor instead of wasting it on somebody’s feet. Jesus said that there would be plenty of time to tend to the poor later, but that he himself was on his way off this planet, so she was making the best of the time left.

    Furthermore, Judas was being disingenuous about how best to use one’s wealth, given what he did for 30 lousy pieces of silver.

    The passage does NOT mean that poverty can never be eliminated, ever, and that’s how God likes it.

  93. leigh says:

    Yes, that’s why I turned it off.

  94. dicentra says:

    Glenn Beck uses that interpretation, too, and it makes me want to toss the radio out the window.

    Boy, if I could sit him and Pat down one day and straighten them out regarding LDS doctrine…

  95. leigh says:

    Give him time, di. He was lost for a long, long time and is trying to cram it all in at once instead of pacing himself.

    It leads to errors.

  96. dicentra says:

    Pat doesn’t have that excuse.

  97. mondamay says:

    dicentra says January 8, 2014 at 1:29 pm – Judas sneered that she should have sold it and given the money to the poor instead of wasting it on somebody’s feet.

    Don’t forget that Judas, like these wealth redistributing progs, was a thief.

    John 12:6

  98. leigh says:

    Pat is cradle LDS? I don’t listen to their show much, so I don’t know much about Pat.

    I grew up with many Mormons, but am murky about doctrine. It’s tough enough keeping Catholic doctrine straight.

  99. Drumwaster says:

    Yeah, I remember hearing someone point out that the 30 pieces of silver was the 10% cut of what that perfume would have brought at sale (300 dinarii)…

  100. dicentra says:

    I think Pat’s family converted when he was young. Young enough that he went to BYU or summat.

    Pat baptized Glenn, having been part of the reason Glenn converted.

  101. mondamay says:

    The passage does NOT mean that poverty can never be eliminated, ever, and that’s how God likes it.

    I don’t know about “likes it”, but I’m not sure what else one can conclude about the inevitability of poor people existing, if you look at the statement as given, and consider the curse of man in Eden. Man must live by the sweat of his brow, and some can not, or will not, work.

  102. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I think it means both, absent the “God likes it” part, as per mondamay, and also for the reason Drumwaster gave at 1318 MST.

  103. McGehee says:

    Poverty abides, just as do sin and stupidity. I blame bell curves.

  104. Blitz says:

    Why don’t such arrogant bastards live up to their self-assessment, just once? – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52399#comments

    Di?

    Because I don’t like it and I want to agree with all the cool kids and I’m SO much more enlightened than you.

    /progg

    Best I can come up with.

  105. Squid says:

    You forgot CUPCAKES!

  106. happyfeet says:

    here’s a nice helpful “app” what helps you find out if they have the flavor you want or if they already sold out of that kind for the day

    be polite

    the people what answer are almost painfully earnest

  107. dicentra says:

    Because I don’t like it and I want to agree with all the cool kids and I’m SO much more enlightened than you.

    Why aren’t they ever actually enlightened, tho?

    If you wanna piss all over creationists for thinking the Bible MUST be understood hyperliterally, why not say, “Hey moron: That’s not a textbook! Why you reading it like one?”

    Instead, they start out making exactly the same mistake and can’t even tell, not even when you explain it.

    I was informed this morning that “you guys are just saying it’s figurative now that it’s been disproven,” even though ORIGEN and AUGUSTINE reckoned that “7 days” was more allegorical than anything.

    But no, they were backtracking after Richard Dawkins told THEM.

  108. Drumwaster says:

    “7 days” was more allegorical than anything.

    Considering that the sun and moon weren’t created until the fourth day, I would have thought this quite obvious…

  109. dicentra says:

    Considering that the sun and moon weren’t created until the fourth day, I would have thought this quite obvious…

    THE MOON IS A LIE.

    “The evening and the morning were the first day.”

    That’s where people figure it must be literal. Fine, go with that, if it pleases you. But it’s also OK and not disloyal to God to reckon that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old, because God isn’t in the business of using his Revelatory Power to give us science lessons, which, it turns out, have jack-all to do with salvation or morality.

    Not knowing the Commandments can mess with your soul. Not knowing the age of the earth cannot.

    But you morons just continue riding that knock-kneed nag, because a sophisticated reading of scripture, taking into account millennia of scholarship on Biblical exegesis, some produced in the culture for which the text was written, is ex post facto rationalization.

    I was swearing at the crossword clues this morning. Time to stop overreacting before someone gets hurt.

  110. Blitz says:

    Dammitall squid, I had cupcakes in there, but didn’t want to prompt the Pikachu.

    Di? I’m really not religious at all, I just believe there is a God, and try to act accordingly. As far as the text goes, anyone with a half functioning brain knows it’s not an accuratelly historical tomel. Hell, even I know it’s gone from Aramaic to greek ( was there one in between? ) to Latin to English to the Bastardisation of King James…( Yeah, I’ve studied a bit . but SHHHH….I’m dumb)

    As far as the enlightened ones go? My opinion is they didn’t get spanked as children, I’ll leave it at that.

  111. Blitz says:

    YES!!! I still hold the typo king title!!!

  112. dicentra says:

    Are you on one of those infernal hand-held device?

    Serves you right.

  113. Blitz says:

    No di, I simply can’t type…don’t know if you know what I do for a living, but broken fingers are pretty much a monthly occurance for mechanics.

    especially stupid clumsy ones like me.

  114. leigh says:

    I imagine there’s no point in telling them that many of the teaching stories of Genesis are apocryphal? That the story of Cain and Abel is written for a society that was becoming agrarian and not nomadic? That a lot of it is POV?

    No there’s no point in doing that because they are too stupid to pay attention.

  115. Blitz says:

    o there’s no point in doing that because they are too stupid to pay attention. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52399#comments

    Sorry to disagree Leigh, but the thing is? They’re just disinterested, don’t care and are perfectly correct precious little snowfalkes.

    Not necessarily stupid but I’m sticking with my original theory. Thay didn’t get spanked as children.

  116. leigh says:

    I agree with that, Blitz.

    They’re too busy being cute and snarky (keyboard commando style) to learn anything.

  117. dicentra says:

    disinterested — No dog in the fight
    uninterested — Doesn’t give a rip

  118. Blitz says:

    You have the right of that Di, I stand corrected

  119. McGehee says:

    Di, can’t we leave Michael Vick out of this, just once?

  120. Blitz says:

    Not knowing the Commandments can mess with your soul. Not knowing the age of the earth cannot. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=52399#comment-1049014

    Exactly. No further comment necessary, and thank you.

  121. Blitz says:

    Mcg? You owe me a mouthfull of beer!!!

  122. StrangernFiction says:

    http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-plan-for-dealing-with-john-boehner.html

    I wouldn’t stop at Boehner, but this is a good start.

  123. newrouter says:

    an independent has until may to file in OH-8

  124. newrouter says:

    Filing Deadline for Independents: May 5, 2014

    oh de dems have a new dem running a college “professor”

  125. BigBangHunter says:

    “As a senator and as the vice president, Joe Biden has been one of the leading statesmen of his time,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney.” – Carney responding to yet another WH staffer that thinks its ok to fuck with the Wan and his “to be defebded at all costs” legacy.

    – Another day, another round of WH pushback. The gestoppo has steadily gravitated toward a next issue almost per day lately.

    – The statement itself is a parody of the WH, given the actual conditions of any policy, issue, or gov program or task you care to name since 2008.

  126. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Mcg? You owe me a mouthfull of beer!!!

    Now that’s the creepiest come-on I’ve ever seen. I feel violated for just reading it.

  127. Patrick Chester says:

    Hm. The mobile app for twitter doesn’t let me view conversations or maybe I haven’t found the key. Dicentra does appear to be ripping people to pieces, though.

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