It wasn’t just the IRS neutralizing the TEA Party-minded voters prior to the 2012 elections …
In the home stretch of the 2012 presidential campaign, from August to September, the unemployment rate fell sharply — raising eyebrows from Wall Street to Washington.
The decline — from 8.1 percent in August to 7.8 percent in September — might not have been all it seemed. The numbers, according to a reliable source, were manipulated.
And the Census Bureau, which does the unemployment survey, knew it.
Just two years before the presidential election, the Census Bureau had caught an employee fabricating data that went into the unemployment report, which is one of the most closely watched measures of the economy.
And a knowledgeable source says the deception went beyond that one employee — that it escalated at the time President Obama was seeking reelection in 2012 and continues today.
“He’s not the only one,” said the source, who asked to remain anonymous for now but is willing to talk with the Labor Department and Congress if asked.
The Census employee caught faking the results is Julius Buckmon, according to confidential Census documents obtained by The Post. Buckmon told me in an interview this past weekend that he was told to make up information by higher-ups at Census.
Nixon’s Plumbers were rank amateurs compared to the Community Organizer’s Hit Squad.
I am sure this will dismissed with the new talking point that it is OK to lie if it makes stupid people do “the right thing”.
Not really new, I think many scientist who should know better go along with “global warming” for this reason.
Dar,
Your title has a typo: *Asterisk*
They’re going to have to revise that chapter in the history books about the Wan.
oops … thanks, leigh …
Brief summary of comments elsewhere on this subject:
DEMS: Everyone knew they wuz lying EKTWL
RINOS: Why didn’t we think [of doing] that? WDWTOT
CONS: We told you so WTYS
National Soros Radio was very very skeptical of these numbers at the time – they wanted to know what the Labor Secretary herself thought!
Labor Secretary Says Talk Of Fudged Jobless Numbers Is Insulting
Labor Secretary Hilda Solis has had a chance to respond to such talk: “I’m insulted when I hear that, because we have a very professional civil service,” she said on CNBC. “I have the highest regard for our professionals that do the calculations at the (Bureau of Labor Statistics). They are trained economists.”
ok then
National Soros Radio’s coverage was then permeated with a healthy dose of skepticisms!
To become president and to be re-elected president takes much luck (among other factors, like money and political skill.) And President Obama appears to be one of the most fortunate presidents in recent memory with the release of the latest employment report.
With a month left before the general election, the U.S. Labor Department’s report that the jobless rate dropped to 7.8 percent in September — falling below the 8 percent barrier for the first time since early in Obama’s presidency — was good news not just for the nation, but for a president who needed some right about now. The economy also added 114,000 jobs in September, below estimates, but still a decent number.
Coming as it did on the heels of the president’s widely derided debate performance against Republican challenger Mitt Romney on Wednesday night, the new economic data was likely to give a timely jolt of renewed confidence to a Democratic presidential campaign that was thrown off stride by the debate.
[…]
If it was good news for the president, it raised a new challenge for Romney. Would his attacks against Obama’s management of the economy be dulled by the good economic news now that the jobless rate has fallen below the 8 percent psychological barrier?
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2012/10/05/162369902/for-obama-7-8-could-be-lucky-number
But in the end National Soros Radio had to reluctantly allow that perhaps these numbers were indeed a devastating blow to the campaign of one Mitt Romney :(
Mitt Romney had just more than a day to relish his presidential debate win before the September unemployment figures forced him to recalibrate. High unemployment has been Romney’s main argument for why voters should fire President Obama. NPR’s Ari Shapiro reports that Friday Romney argued the new numbers don’t tell the whole story.
http://www.npr.org/2012/10/06/162424424/romney-skirts-drop-in-unemployment
then they punched back with a hard-hitting investigation!
Unemployment Numbers Are Kept Under Guard
Back in August, Caitlin Kenney of NPR’s Planet Money team went to investigate just why those numbers are such a closely held secret.
KENNEY: Did you catch that? The first level of defense. The ladies explained to me that Megan’s office suite is under lockdown. Unless you have related work inside, there’s no getting in.
Is there nothing they won’t do to get and keep power?
Ask again after they pull a 21st-century Waco.
This is probably what Matthew Lynch meant by “four years under perhaps the most intense public scrutiny ever placed upon an American president”.
Romney cut a gay dog’s hair and then let it die of cancer.
Obama then fried it up for a nice family nosh…
Neil Munro http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/19/morose-obama-asks-his-base-for-psychological-intervention/2/ the [depressed] community organizer at work:
*** “I’ve got one more campaign in me, and that is making this law work,” he told his supporters. ***
Yeah, that‘s the ticket, a political campaign will make it work. Since “Voting is the best revenge” and revenge was always what it was all about.
Doesn’t Obama want to run for King of the World?
I think we can convince him the office exists and the capital is in the Aleutian islands. He will be out of our way and Sarah Palin can keep tabs on him from her house.
maybe just the muslim world i think
Turns out the Life of Julia ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Woman cited by Obama as health care success story frustrated by sign-up process
It seems you still can’t fix stupid”
speaking of not what it’s all cracked up to be Mr. Pablo I am going to venture to the Island of Rhode this week and guess what?
It’s a hoax!
It’s not even an island.
If I book at the Hotel Viking I can stay on an actual island but I think I’m a focus on downtown Providence.
Silly Ms. Stanford, she forgot to sign up for Washington State Healthcare Exchange Prime. She would have had her policy in two days with free shipping!
The Rhode part is an island. The rest is those plantations of Providence.
Providence in the almost winter, happy? Even the queens will have left for the season.
Jeff is tweeting a good bit this morning so I guess a night’s sleep did him some good.
is for work and i never been my whole life so I booked through the weekend and I checked the map and it looks like it’ll be nice to have the option of skipping it when I take another road trip
it’s probably the only state i get to check off the list this whole year cause of
this new job is sort of demanding and we have a very ghetto time off policy what I haven’t really bitched about since I can’t realistically take any time off anyway
daytime has been 50 degrees lately which is fine for me
I don’t get really whiny about the cold til it gets in the low 20s or so and that’s mostly just if there’s wind or that snow stuff is involved
plus i never get to wear my london fog
my lil nephew monkey made me buy it in Iowa last year
it’s too big on me now but you know what I don’t care
Don’t miss the tennis hall of fame. Don’t forget to take your no-doze when you do visit.
I don’t get really whiny about the cold til it gets in the low 20s or so and that’s mostly just if there’s wind or that snow stuff is involved
Well, then you’re just gonna LOVE this weekend in Rhode Island, because it is suppose to be that kind of cold at night, with a chance of weather.
Be careful in RI – organized crime is still extremely powerful there – don’t go pissing anybody off unless you know they’re from out-of-state also.
– Just doesn’t seem to matter how many scandals are uncovered, Bumblefuck just keeps rolling along.
– It also doesn’t much matter at this point since barring a full Marxist takeover he can’t run again, and theres nothing surprising in any of this. We all knew he was a complete poser/fake from day one.
Maybe have a smoke in honor of the Lorillards while you’re there. But just the one, mind.
ok i will be super careful
i will show respect
Mr. sdferr I can’t have a single puff
i know this about me
I’m no match for the seductive powers of smoky bliss
Everyday it seem we learn of another piece of the federal government which had political appointee higher ups pressuring the “professionals” in the civil service mid and lower levels to fudge numbers, nudge/fuck-over citizens, and lie. All to make Obama look, be perceived as omni-competent and get re-elected.
Once enough people start to believe that everything that this administration says is a lie and everything they do is about constant about holding onto power then their credibility is shot and that is not fixable by more speeches or payoffs.
Then maybe have a little bonfire made of a crumbled pack of Newports in honor of TheClownDisaster?
– At this point anyone who believes that some 97+ million unemployed workers represent 7.3% of the workforce deserve all the fucking over they are getting.
Michael Barone on ClownDisaster’s shitty polling numbers, finishes up with a flourish. But whatever you do, don’t take the ClownDisaster’s political high crimes and misdemeanors as a reason to write your representatives to demand an impeachment. It just wouldn’t be a racially non-discriminatory behavior.
*** The Framers of the Constitution regarded refusal to faithfully execute the law as tyranny. Barack Obama, with his Swiss cheese exceptions to Obamacare, seems to take a different view. ***
Seriously, though, I won’t even ask whether or not, but merely how high a percentage of the adult US populace will hear, “Who are you gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes?” and merely swoon in ecstasy…
Or on it. Would make more sense.
The Sport must go on!
I’m insulted when I hear that,
Feigned outrage is the first sign that a liar has been caught in a lie.
They need to drill their people better.
I spent the first year of my life in Providence, RI.
I have zero memory of the place.
That is all.
It might be a pleasure to drill Hilda Solis up the nose with a carrot. As cold a liar as she may be, she doesn’t rate the icepick.
One of the first chapters in the “Idiot’s Guide to the US Presidency” should explain why you should not fill your cabinet up with socialists.
Socialism looks good on paper and tends to stir up the masses and get you votes but, does not actually work. Someone has to pay the bills. . .
Someone has to pay the bills. . .
– Silly winger. In Obamas Utopia the bills are payed by simply printing more money.
if i remember right during hurricane sandy Providence was super-proud of some sort of sea wall or what have you
I’m a read up later today
Hurricane barrier, feets. ’38 and ’54 hurricanes brought 6-7 feet of water into the city.
Go to Federal Hill for Italian food. Look on the left side of the street for an old vending machine office. Be very polite.
I vividly remember calling this one beforehand.
ok i will do the italian foozle maybe with my colleague on Thu night
we’ll see if he’s up for it anyway if not i’ll go later
“foozle” sounds like something a hipster would say while sipping PBR from a baby bottle at an Ironic Shari Lewis and Lamb Chop Fan Club meeting held on the roof top of a bowling alley that used to be a Showbiz Pizza.
Well, sure, but the Legislature isn’t going to be in session, so…
Seriously, the Mafia isn’t what it used to be here. The Feds did quite a number on ’em. The Patriarca family is still active in Boston, but most organized crime figures here are elected now.
‘feets, if you want an island hotel experience, try the Newport Hyatt Regency. And yes, Federal Hill for food, Fox Point for stopping storm surge.
Feigned outrage is the first sign that a liar has been caught in a lie.
They need to drill their people better.
Meh. It comes from the top: “Frankly, I find the idea that my (fill in the blank) would do (X) offensive!
My peeps, anytime anyone anywhere tells you “let me be frank . . .” they are about to tell you a whopper.
ok for sure federal hill
i’m at hotel providence the biltmore was booked – then i go to like a hyatt or a hilton for the last night
something is going on in that town come Saturday what is screwing up all the bookings i tried
but yes i am excited about the Federal Hill I will tell my friend G
looks like I don’t get to see any WaterFire stuff
Like it was the weekend before Thanksgiving or something.
i’m skipping T-giving this year I’m just gonna take the time off and be vaguely semi-grateful about having netflix
Roller Derby, no doubt.
Camille’s and Siena are nice choices for Italian. Providence Oyster Bar is nice if you want to nosh on North Atlantic seafood. There’s one of those in the airport too.
We have Thanksgiving narrowed down to home or 800 miles away in Idaho. Did I ever mention that I love my wife but, she procrastinates a bit?
idaho is special but I distrust that part of the country when it allies itself with treacherous winter
i’m so glad this thread will be here when it’s time to eat
Last Winter when I was in Idaho it was in the minus teens to minus 20s overnight. The winter before it was downright balmy.
You never know.
As an antidote to yesterday’s “Obama is teh Awesome” post at HuffPo, I give you a rebuttal.
I miss preview.
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/12-reasons-obama-greatest-president-ever-rebuttal/#axzz2l2mpYBSJ
The HTML Fairy fixed your first link for you.
Thanks, HTML fairy!
yea but can the html fairy do anything with
unicornhealthcare.gov?How to Add Comment Previews To Your WordPress Site Using jQuery
Pablo, I don’t know about the wisdom of this: maybe we should meet feets and have him buy us a drink . . .
“Last Winter when I was in Idaho it was in the minus teens to minus 20s overnight. The winter before it was downright balmy. ”
Oooo, toasty! When I lived in Wyoming, Idaho is where we went to warm up. You know, after a week or two of -40 and 20-30 MPH winds…
“yea but can the html fairy do anything with unicornhealthcare.gov? ”
Nope HTML is racist and a tool of patriarchal heteronormative oppression.
IMPEACH!
Absolutely and deservedly so. No better use of the provision could be made.
I’d agree sdferr, but I’m not so sure it’s a good idea to replace a ideologue with an insane person.
President Biden would probably announce his plan to divide Afghanistan into three new countries and put Nancy Pelosi on the supreme court. Then replace her in the house with a horse.
Yup. It’s coming.
>IMPEACH!<
yes with vanilla and orange rind
Is that the faintest hint of sanity I smell coming from helloIloveyouwon’tyoutellmemyname?
Naaaaaah. He must be trying to be sarcastic.
The fact that there are numerous and ongoing violations of law, plus repeated and ongoing breaking of his oath of office, should at least open up the question to a public hearing, doesn’t it?
Clinton was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice. Does the murder of American citizens without trial qualify as “high crimes and misdemeanors”, Slappy? How about repeated violations of the Constitution and multiple Amendments (including, but not limited to, First, Second, Fourth, Fifth, Eighth and Thirteenth)?
Here’s the real touchstone to determine whether you are both a hypocrite and a fool, or just a fool: If Obama were a Republican and doing all of the things he is doing, would you be screaming for impeachment, or would you still be swooning?
I don’t care about Biden. I care about the removal of ClownDisaster for the high crimes and misdemeanors he has already committed, and against any future such deeds he may seek to do. Biden will either learn the lesson of the rule of law, or, if not, he may then suffer the same fate, as may all others to come.
vanilla ice cream and…
>I don’t care about Biden.<
well clown disaster cares about you. putting "joey" there wouldn't be prudent you country class losers
vanilla ice cream and tap 357
I figure it could be no worse than Chuck taking over the British throne…
Biden isn’t smart enough to blow his own nose without written instructions of less than three syllables, and it’s not like Obama would be convicted, as long as there are 34 Democrat Senators.
what do i win?
” IMPEACH! ”
We have to gut the old senate with our votes first.
yes for sure i buy you many drinks
we drink them
I wanna go to the biltmore and get wasted
Ignoring the trampling of the rule of law would be even less prudent than a couple of years of a constrained moron Joe Biden in office.
“I care about the removal of ClownDisaster for the high crimes and misdemeanors he has already committed, and against any future such deeds he may seek to do.”
Ha! High crimes and misdemeanors committed. If that’s what you care about, you might as well call for half the people in Washington DC to be hung from lamp posts, and the whole town razed.
That’s where I’m at by the way.
yeah we gonna rock rock drink a lot of shot shots someone tell the clock clock we ain’t gonna stop stop
…It’s the only thing I can think of that would shift focus from Obamacare for a while and remind everyone of how abjectly horrible the alternative to Obama looks…
IMPEACH!
how abjectly horrible the alternative to Obama looks…
Well, then we will expect you to help us turn the Senate around so that neither Obama nor Biden can do any more damage in the three lame duck years they have left.
When things were starting to turn officially sour for Nixon, but before he resigned, the senior officers at NORAD were told to be VERY careful about any orders received from NCA, especially those involving possible first strike. I can only hope there are sane people in our military that remember those stories and will check on any orders that come from Obama for the next 38 months…
I care about returning to the rule of law. One way to begin such a return is to begin such a return. Cynical horseshit needn’t play any role in that. The people of the United States merely have to take up their own part in the governance of the nation, as indicated in the first amendment to the Constitution as well as elsewhere [“Congress shall make no law respecting . . . the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. “]. Should the people make such a demand [Impeach him] in sufficient numbers, their representatives will be confronted with a decision whether to ignore that demand or take it up. I believe their own estimation of their narrow self-interest can well guide them to accede to the wishes of their constituents, as well as that narrow judgment can be joined to a fair reading of the meaning of the provisions of the Constitution itself. The facts are at hand. The question is one of will.
It’s the only thing I can think of that would shift focus from Obamacare for a while
I note for the record that people don’t need to “shift focus {away} from” successful things. Wouldn’t it be nice if the government actually managed to come up with something successful every once in a while, rather than the increasingly intrusive Robin Hood schemes?
“…It’s the only thing I can think of that would shift focus from Obamacare – ”
Huh? But it’s so popular? Only racist old white men hate it. Right?
>IMPEACH!<
with cinnamon
>to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. <
yes more lemon zest now!
Every time that I look in the mirror
All these lines on my face gettin’ clearer, the past is gone
It went by like dusk to dawn, Isn’t that the way?
Everybody’s got their dues in life to pay
Well I know nobody knows
Where it comes and where it goes
I know it’s everybody’s sin
You got to lose to know how to win
Half my life’s in book’s written pages
Live and learn from fools and from sages
You know it’s true
All the things you do, come back to you
Sing with me, sing for the year
Sing for the laughter and sing for the tear
Sing with me, It’s just for today
Maybe tomorrow the good Lord’ll take you away
Dream on, dream on
Dream on, dream on
Dream on, dream on
Dream until your dreams come true
>The question is one of will.<
will left the building sir
"When I speak of living within the truth, I naturally do not have in
mind only products of conceptual thought, such as a protest or a
letter written by a group of intellectuals. It can be any means by
which a person or a group revolts against manipulation: anything
from a letter by intellectuals to a workers' strike, from a rock
concert to a student demonstration, from refusing to vote in the
farcical elections, to making an open speech at some official
congress, or even a hunger strike, for instance. If the suppression of
the aims of life is a complex process, and if it is based on the
multifaceted manipulation of all expressions of life then, by the
same token, every free expression of life indirectly threatens the
post-totalitarian system politically, including forms of expression to
which, in other social systems, no one would attribute any potential
political significance, not to mention explosive power.
The Prague Spring is usually understood as a clash between two
groups on the level of real power: those who wanted to maintain the
system as it was and those who wanted to reform it."
@ page 43v potp
Oh, and I’m past cynical horseshit and well into fatalistic toxic waste.
Feel free to ignore me…take the blue pill.
Laying down to die is alike an act of willing.
OFA boi says…
Why? Why spoil a good thing?
We’ve got Mr. Obama on the ropes. He’s miserable; his spotlight isn’t the bright light of fevered favor anymore. He’s being questioned by his own Party, many of whom are ready to revolt. He’s been proven a liar over and over again. His scandals won’t go away. His signature program ‘Obama’ Care is collapsing before it even gets started. As it should, because it was built on deceit and lies. A house of cards, it is.
Barack Obama is getting desperate. If he’s impeached, then his core supporters will rally to him and he will again feed off their anger, just as he did while campaigning against George Bush (twice). So, we must not give him what he wants. He wants, no, needs impeachment, to get back to his game.
Instead, we should keep on presenting hard truth to counter his lies. We must continue to expose his every falsehood. We should dig deeper in his machinations, and we’ll be rewarded by seeing his insiders turn on him, presenting even more evidence to an awakening America.
Barack Obama can be his own worst enemy, if we just get out of his way and let him be…himself. A desperate, drowning man.
I shall point and laugh.
Why was Solzhenitsyn driven out of his own country? Certainly
not because he represented a unit of real power, that is, not because
any of the regime’s representatives felt he might unseat them and
take their place in government. Solzhenitsyn’s expulsion was something
else: a desperate attempt to plug up the dreadful wellspring of
truth, a truth which might cause incalculable transformations in
social consciousness, which in turn might one day produce political
debacles unpredictable in their consequences. And so the posttotalitarian
system behaved in a characteristic way: it defended the
integrity of the world of appearances in order to defend itself. For
the crust presented by the life of lies is made of strange stuff. As long
as it seals off hermetically the entire society, it appears to be made of
stone.
potpl @page 42
Okay, which one of you wisenheimers is trolling the troll?
That actually made sense.
Who is lying down?
Just no longer interested in playing three card monte in the ghetto.
Time for a new game.
will left the building sir
Prompted the comment on lying down.
Still and all, the sophisticates aren’t actually suggesting some action, are they? Passivity too can be a strategic choice, I suppose, but passivity isn’t necessary, that I can see, under the circumstances.
I dunno. I’m thinking an Atlas Shrugged type of thing would be more effective than an impeachment, if you’re thinking a grassroots movement is something doable.
Threaten the government with a private sector shutdown until we get a balanced budget.
>he sophisticates aren’t actually suggesting some action, are they?<
One legacy of that original ‘correct understanding’ is a third peculiarity
that makes our system different from other modern dictatorships:
it commands an incomparably more precise, logically
structured, generally comprehensible and, in essence, extremely
flexible ideology that, in its elaborateness and completeness, is
almost a secularized religion. It offers a ready answer to any question
whatsoever; it can scarcely be accepted only in part, and
accepting it has profound implications for human life. In an era
when metaphysical and existential certainties are in a state of crisis,
when people are being uprooted and alienated and are losing their
sense of what this world means, this ideology inevitably has a certain
hypnotic charm. To wandering humankind it offers an immediately
available home: all one has to do is accept it, and suddenly everything
becomes clear once more, life takes on new meaning, and all
mysteries, unanswered questions, anxiety, and loneliness vanish. Of
course, one pays dearly for this low-rent home: the price is
abdication of one’s own reason, conscience, and responsibility, for
an essential aspect of this ideology is the consignment of reason and
conscience to a higher authority.
Must all possible actions be mutually exclusive? What is the barrier to writing our representatives, and encouraging our families, neighbors and acquaintances to do the same? Why would we seek excuses to refuse to make our views known, if we believe that impeachment is appropriate to the magnitude of the injustice being dealt out to the polity by a tyrannically minded executive? Are we ashamed to speak? Ashamed to fail? What?
Laying down is what Kimberly Perry does when she wants to take a nap or just have some “me” time on her tour bus or to sleep, perchance to dream of being Kimberly Perry some more after she wakes up
> Are we ashamed to speak? <
no mock the baracky. mock the proggtards. laugh in their face. make sure every one knows their fail
also shoot a yellow pikachu in the public square. for the seriousness
no mock the baracky. mock the proggtards. laugh in their face. make sure every one knows their fail
Objection, assumes facts not in evidence. To wit, this presupposes that Democrats have any shame whatsoever, and there has been no evidence of that in any forum to date.
There are still almost 40% of the people out there who think he’s doing a great job, and math says that there are at least a few of them who aren’t getting paid to say so…
alternately we can have an abortion in the public square, for so lila rose can get her rocks off
or we could go to taco bell
true gouge the the half born pikachu for gosnell giggles. he wants the ‘feets
Force Obama to resign? Good luck with that. As Drumwaster notes, he hasn’t the moral fiber it takes to have a shame. Forcing him to step aside, a Nixonian retreat, isn’t happening.
hellomynameissteve says November 19, 2013 at 9:27 pm
…It’s the only thing I can think of that would shift focus from Obamacare for a while and remind everyone of how abjectly horrible the alternative to Obama looks…
IMPEACH!
– See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51997#comments
Did a grownup type that for you?
I never thought of nominating a VP candidate as a strong disincentive to impeach, but now that you bring that up, it makes a lot of sense.
It also kind of explains Al Gore.
I’m hoping most people in the Tea Party aren’t smart enough to figure that out. Your side is known for a lack of restraint. (fingers crossed).
IMPEACH!
Dan Quayle, Dick Cheney – this is old news fellas.
There you go pwers, take your instructions from a fascist. Don’t give it a second thought.
IMPEACH!
Do tell, Slappy! What charges would you recommend we file for? Please be specific, your fellow fascists are watching.
“our side is known for a lack of restraint.”
Yeah Obamacare, stimulus, cash for clunkers, five years of unemployment extensions, coal planet shutdown, no budget for five years…your side is totally known for being restrained. Uh huh.
“Dan Quayle, Dick Cheney – this is old news fellas.”
Yeah, Carter had Mondale…
And Bong Water Clinton had Al “Cigar Store Indian” Gore…
(Did anyone ever explain exactly what Mrs. Gore was “tipping”?)
Considering the sweeping executive powers that the Wan has enacted since he has been “president”, I would like to know that steve is going to show similar respect for the office when a conservative is elected and starts unilaterally repealing the shit out of laws he personally dislikes.
It’s nice to know who here is cool with a monarchy. I am sad to see that some of our Outlaws seem to feel there is no battle to join.
I guess this whole conversation explains John Edwards. But Joe Lieberman is actually a fairly sane dude.
Dick Cheney, too, but that’d tend to be the ruination of teh narrative. And Dukakis’ choice of Lloyd Bentsen also runs counter to the claimed trend. Geraldine Ferraro was also not crazy, and more qualified than the current occupant of the WH.
So: not so much a trend. Edwards is, aside from his marital fidelity issues, fairly sane aside from his attempt to channel the unborn in court.
I would like to know that steve is going to show similar respect for the office – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51997#comment-1035466
No way, it’ll be straight back to the assassination porn and calling him a monkey, and the media investigating everyone he has ever passed in the street, in the attempt to smear him.
“We’ve spoken to a Mrs. Throckwattle of Stumpville Township who says she attended kindergarten with the new President, and she reports that he once threw a snowball at a black child during recess. More on our racist President after these words from the NAACP…”
Still waiting for Slappy to tell us that he has signed up for 404Care, putting all of his personal information up for all those hackers to use to their heart’s content.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/10/03/mcafee-antivirus-founder-what-idiot-put-this-system-out-there/
… McAfee ripped ObamaCare’s technological arrangement and worried that all of its huge moving parts will make it a perfect environment for hackers to steal Americans’ identities, personal information, and money.
Ah, who needs those things? We have FREE INSURANCE! Wait, why did my rent check bounce?
When an obvious fraud parades around in the clothing of legitimate law and is accepted as legitimate law, who can be surprised when as a result the people under the law are directly robbed of the property they used to believe was theirs to determine and dispose? And when obvious fraud is taken for the very meaning of law, why bother with distinctions like legitimate and illegitimate in the first place? Those would be mere illusions. Why shouldn’t everyone simply conduct themselves without any rule save power and strength? If a theft can be accomplished by the rulers, then that is what is legitimate, unless the theft be against the rulers (who are not you). This is the law of the ClownDisaster and his devoted followers. It used to be called tyranny. Nowadays it’s called progress.
James O’Keefe Tweets Sebelius – “Might Want to Cancel Your Plans Tomorrow”
I’m hoping most people in the Tea Party aren’t smart enough to figure that out. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51997#comments
They scare the shit out of you, don’t they, Steve.
Saul Alinsky, Bullet 1: “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”
I see Greg Sargent has learned the rule well, and knows when and how to deploy it [“. . . but repeal is a minority position.”]. It’s a pity so many of his opposition (though not JeffG) take Sargent’s side of the thing, and prove the cleverness of Alinsky’s observation.
Politics is dynamic all right. It’s not simply about power though, but about recursion and change as well.
It used to be called tyranny. Nowadays it’s called progress.
I’m concerned about the lack of spine in the people. It puzzles me, although I imagine it probably shouldn’t, most being cowards, if history is any teacher.
Delete commas as needed.
Biden is stupid, but I don’t get the sense that he actually hates America.’
So, yep, I’d rather have him.
Yes, Slaphead has been mighty quiet about his “awesome” Obamacare plan of late. The last we heard he was planning to “meet” with the Catholic insurance company “this week”. That was several weeks ago.
Well, Slaphead?
Meanwhile, earlier today impeached former president Bill Clinton and assorted others (Okra, Gloria Steinem, et alia) receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Let us not forget that there were people in the mid-18th century British colonies who were utterly loyal to King George III, and that the urge to become a separate nation was not anywhere near unanimous. Even at the very end, when the tide had turned, an estimated 15-20% of the colonies’ population were Tories, and 50-60,000 actually left the new country. (Rip Van Winkle was a Tory, although he slept through the war.)
Oh I know, Drum. The loyalists are supplemented by the vast disinterested now, though. Also known as recipients of government payola.
Well, the government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul.
Sebelius photo op ends badly:
http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/11/obligatory-never-do-live-tv-when-testing-healthcare-gov-website/
oh noes
Dem House Aide: ObamaCare ‘Could Be Demise of Democrat Party’
Demise of the Democrat party? Not as long as there are people out there too goddamned lazy to be muggers, and want the government to steal for them.
The point is that those people who would be ashamed to be associated with the party that created the KKK and then blamed it on “the other guys”, the party that claims among its members the Westboro Baptist Church and the New Black Panther Party, the party whose President was endorsed by Hezbollah and the Communists, (and this is the important bit) actually have shame. The current crop clearly don’t.
Some examples:
“As we look back in history, the Founding Fathers would be cringing to hear people talking about eliminating earmarks.” — Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid, (D-NV)
“You have to pass the bill to find out what’s in it.” — Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
“At this point, what difference does it make?” — Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
You want to know two words that don’t appear in the Constitution? “Solve” and “Problems”.
No, they aren’t going anywhere. Into remission for a while as far as influence in the public eye, but that’s about it.
As long as there are willing deadbeats (and the dead) to vote for free shit, we’ll never be rid of them. They do need to realize that they are killing their host with too many parasites, though.
It’s like the fictional demise of conservatives that is crowed about by the socialists whenever they win an election. We don’t go anywhere either, except to regroup and try to prune out the deadwood.
We can be cheered by the fact that the dems don’t have a deep bench. All of their standard bearers are oldsters who made their bones back in the sixties. They don’t even have any second lieutenants to step in and fill a gap if one of them gets senile or croaks.
We, and I speak of “we” as the Outlaw branch that scares the dress over steve’s head, have a dozen young Turks who have won many well fought battles and may well win the war. We need to work on marginalizing poseurs like Chris Crispie and eventually kicking him to the curb, but that will happen and we have plenty of time.
Not that I’m predicting anything, or ever have for that matter, but once upon a time I think I was of the opinion that socialism was going to have to make one last desperate attack on all that’s right and good and holy before it would finally collapse and die.
Apropos of nothing at all…
I was there once too, McGehee.
Then I looked around at my aging hippy former friends and my free-loading nieces and nephews and sighed.
Those people’s worth is by the pound. Once we know where the asteroid’s going to hit, we’ll pile them up around the impact zone to help absorb the blast and save the rest of us.
I’d gp to downtown Providence to meet Happy, unfortunately though? I’m babysitting my daughters’ so that she can go clubbing there…
oops….children
Those people’s worth is by the pound.
Too true. They don’t even have any good stuff like weapons or decent trucks to take from them on the way to the blast point/point of impact.
stevie blathered:
I’m hoping most people in the Tea Party aren’t smart enough to figure that out. Your side is known for a lack of restraint. (fingers crossed).
That’s your belief as to why you were given that particular script?!
Silly little drone. Start hoping you stay useful.
Our people are very smart.
steve isn’t into “smart”, he believes in credentials not education and experience.
Lefties are big on credentials and using them to appeal to authority. Piss off, we say.
They used to, but not so much any more. They’re a nuisance, but they’re never going to accomplish anything.
We met with them this week. We’re deciding between the HSA6200 plan, and the exchange Gold plan.
https://healthplans.providence.org/pdfs/products-services/Documents/u65/HSA-6200-benefit-summary-individual-2014.pdf
https://healthplans.providence.org/pdfs/products-services/Documents/2-standard/oregon-standard-gold-plan-benefit-summary.pdf
The gold plan costs more per month than the HSA, but if we end up using a lot of healthcare, the HSA will end up being more, so we’re leaning towards the gold. It’s a savings of about $400 per month compared to what we’re currently paying Kaiser.
Your party is failing to get the mileage out of this that they could. The options you’re giving are (a) go back to how it was – which was very broken, or (b) ride it out. Given the choice between fixing it and repealing it, the polls are in favor of fixing it. But the only offer from your side is repeal, and that’s an opportunity you’re missing. A shrewder Republican party would figure out how to drive a wedge that splits the Democrats, but clever your team isn’t.
These assertions serve as a benchmark by which the rest of your statements are measured. Based on the accuracy of this one, leigh doesn’t really need to be paid attention to.
“Your party is failing to get the mileage out of this that they could. ”
Your party is looking malevolently smug, cold, incompetently clueless about the basics of IT, commerce, and insurance regulations, not to mention a bit delusional (in the case of Pelosi) all at the same time. Democrats seem like off putting pod people who plan big, fail bigger, and try to cover it with awful bluffing before running away to hide.
“steve isn’t into “smart”, he believes in credentials not education and experience. ”
You said it Leigh. “Piss off” is politically becoming the new black.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57613067/poll-obamacare-support-obama-approval-sink-to-new-lows/
Baby’s shit has begun to stink.
The sites are increasingly working. The enrollments are picking up steam. You guys had a chance to propose something reasonable, and you walked away from it (again). Everything is relative. The Tea Party needs to show that it’s a better bet than Obama. So far, they haven’t. You could always threaten to blow up the world economy unless you get your way again. In fact, I’m sure that’s exactly what you’ll do.
You’ve got to plead more convincingly if you want to be thrown into that briar patch.
What could be cuter than telling more lies on top of the lies already laid down? Bound to one way and one way only, the fascists have no means of escape from themselves.
@sdferr: What? You mean we’re not supposed to do what our enemy asks us to?
Shocking.
;-D
quid est veritas?
Why do you ask questions if you’re just going to label every answer a lie. It’s cowardly and lazy.
Why do you keep lying and whinge when called on it?
(Oh dear, someone’s getting a bit pissy about getting the respect he deserves and not the respect he wants.)
“The sites are increasingly working. ”
Tell Sebellius. Nov. 30th fix date? No wait, improvement date? Not so much. Obamcare is increasingly unpopular. So is Obama.
“The enrollments are picking up steam. ”
27K so far.
“You guys had a chance to propose something reasonable, and you walked away from it (again). ”
Nope. And Obamacare is hardly reasonable., which people are catching on to.
“Everything is relative. ”
Daydreams are insubstantial. Bromidic axioms are empty.
“The Tea Party needs to show that it’s a better bet than Obama. ”
Not really. Almost anything is looking like a better bet than Oba,acare right now. Obscuration and threats of defection are afoot.
” So far, they haven’t. ”
So far they haven’t needed to. Unravelling proceeds apace.
” You could always threaten to blow up the world economy unless you get your way again. In fact, I’m sure that’s exactly what you’ll do. ”
But I don’t hear anyone mewling about that anymore Steve, but you. In fact that line only lasted about two weeks and was a bit half-hearted and unconvincing through the second week. What I hear NOW is democrats hoping there is a chair left for them as they wait for the music to stop. Obama is starting to make the Geiger counter tic. he has more space to golf in now that the crowd has thinned out and pulled back.
Reality and math is much harder to drag left than a tenuous pseudo- alliance of hilariously uninformed ‘cult of personality’ voters. And even those voters are resisting the leftward pull now that they’ve got past the novelty into the onus of enduring what they never asked for in the first place.
” A shrewder Republican party would figure out how to drive a wedge that splits the Democrats, but clever your team isn’t. ”
Nightly News | November 17, 2013
Are Democrats splitting over Obamacare rollout?
A troubled debut for the Affordable Health Care website may be causing a rift in the Democratic Party. NBC’s Kristen Welker reports.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/nightly-news/53585129#53585129
EEEEEEE-VUL GRIN. >:)
He just wants to help you Patrick.
Because, as every good Kanamit knows, helping you is helping himself.
ingrate
I’d consider it failure if I found myself in the company of those you respect. Beck? Levin? Cruz? Santorum? Ryan? Fuck-a-doodle.
Well, at least we agree that the Tea Party hasn’t raised it’s standing whatsoever.
I am comforted by how rapidly you’re declaring “game over”. When the tide turns, it will be the MSMs fault, and 47% free-loaders, and have nothing to do with your nothing to offer.
See that? He could quit us just like that, if he wanted to.
I mean, before you break your arm patting yourself on the back, remember that it’s your team that comes up with “solutions” like this:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/government/fallin-halts-all-spouse-benefit-applications-at-state-owned-national/article_1511406c-67e1-5b15-94ba-cfe887c15bac.html
“I’d consider it failure if I found myself in the company of those you respect. ”
But who cares? You don’t consider the Obamacare rollout a failure. Aside from that, the demand for your rather capricious imprimatur seems quite low. Nobody wants an at-a-boy from some mendacious babbling incoherent twerp trying to transmute shit talk into a form of onanism (1st Merriam Webster definition). Well…on second thought, maybe Matthew Yglesias does.
“I mean, before you break your arm patting yourself on the back, remember that it’s your team that comes up with “solutions” like this: ”
And then I pointed to Obamacare and shorter steve was beclowned as if by a great gust of unappreciated irony.
“Well, at least we agree that the Tea Party hasn’t raised it’s standing whatsoever.”
Actually we don’t. We just agree that the policy of not talking about the shit on your side’s face isn’t fooling anybody.
” I am comforted by how rapidly you’re declaring “game over”.
Good. I was comforted by how rapidly you declared “game over” when the shut down was running and are still trying form it into some sort of ersatz bulwark against what is happening right in front of you.
stevie blathered:
I’d consider it failure if I found myself in the company of those you respect. Beck? Levin? Cruz? Santorum? Ryan? Fuck-a-doodle.
Ah, the childish swipe where he flings names in the hopes that it will mean something.
Typical.
Really, do you think you’re the first troll to come sliming into a blog or forum with conservative/classical liberal views trying what you’ve tried so far?
” and have nothing to do with your nothing to offer.”
‘Shit or nothing’ is a hell of a sales pitch when there’s shit a plenty on the way, and still more after that Steve. Nothing looks pretty good now.
Beck? Levin? Cruz? Santorum? Ryan?
Garofalo? Martin Bashir? Biden? Pelosi? Jarrett? Reid?
Better start calling us all “racists”, that’s about the only play you have left…
“I’d consider it failure if I found myself in the company of those you respect.”
I’d consider it a failure if my state had spent millions on a “health care” website that (so far) hasn’t managed to sign up a single person, but according to you it’s “awesome”.
Guess which one of us actually lives in reality.
“The sites are increasingly working. The enrollments are picking up steam”
Sure they are. Let us know when Oregon’s site “picks up steam” by enrolling any paying customers. At all. Also let us know when the total numbers of enrollees nationwide exceeds the number who are losing their insurance. Then let us know when the total number of enrollees reaches the seven million needed to break even.
Meanwhile, 5 million people are losing their existing policies in five weeks, and somewhere around a hundred million will be getting cancellation notices before the next election.
Tick-tock.
You might also want to think up some pre-spin for when your dupes find out that you guys were also lying about keeping your doctor, because Carney’s pathetic performance on that one isn’t going to fly.
“Beck? Levin? Cruz? Santorum? Ryan?”
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/colorado/release-detail?ReleaseID=1978
Ryan (who I personally do not like and have never liked) and Rand Paul beat Hillary! in Colorado, and Cruz ties her.
And remember, we’ve only seen the very beginning of the Obamacare shipwreck.
And remember, Medicaid doesn’t count.
Hmmmmm. IIRC, the Obamarama campaigned (and
governedkept campaigning for a full term) on not being George Bush. Also Hope and Change.Go ahead. Pull the other one.
They used to, but not so much any more. They’re a nuisance, but they’re never going to accomplish anything. – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51997#comments
Now who’s lying.
What is so compelling about forcing people to do something?
Sometimes it’s best to stay out of the way of epic fail. This is one of those times.
There is no “the Tea Party” to have anything that can intelligently be described as standing. Your failure to discern between what Tea Party is and isn’t is just one of the manifold ways in which you continue to provide amusement.
Sometimes it’s best to stay out of the way of epic fail. This is one of those times.
That’s the Second Rule of Holes: “When your opponent is at the bottom of a hole, hand him a bigger shovel.”
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/116/2/9/Liberal_Rule_of_Holes_by_Conservatoons.jpg
Here’s a shovel for Baghdad
BobSteve to dig with!The little greasy OFA shitstain ‘steve’ comes back with new talking points. What, Barky’s closeting with his pet idol worshipers give you a new ‘thrust’? Better look behind you: the thrust you feel is just one of those you gladly keep getting.
Hadn’t seen that graphic before, Drumwaster. Awesome.
The real fail there is: people trust Republicans with their healthcare. Rather than: people now distrust government to take care of them.
It seems hellomynameisinsufferablyandundeservedlysmug is now hellomynameissnippyandangrybutafraidtoadmitwhy.
“And remember, Medicaid doesn’t count.”
Nope, it sure doesn’t.
Actuarial science is racist!
79% of people polled on the ACA have either not tried to enroll or have no intention of doing so.
Picking up steam! Booyah!
But it’s an absolutely perfectly formed and photographed “asterisk” done in the perfect font for public consumption.
Boom!
We will have leftist-fascists, and leftist-fascists are what we will have. Throat jamming is the new black.
Is it too late to note that Kurt Vonnegut used an asterisk to denote an asshole?
Probably that is racist somehow.
It will be interesting when those 50-100 million people lose their company-paid health care because of the delayed mandates next fall, and Harry Reid suddenly becomes a minority leader again (even assuming he doesn’t lose that post in retaliation from his fellows). He will be working VERY HARD to reinstate that rule come December 2014, so that he might actually be allowed to speak on the Senate Floor again after January.
21 of the 33 seats up for reelection in the Senate are Democrats, and they cannot afford to lose ANY of them, even the seven in States that went for Romney.
“hellomynameissnippyandangrybutafraidtoadmitwhy”
If my party’s heir-apparent was tied with Ted Cruz in an important swing state, I’d be afraid too.
No huh, Steve.