Of course, this is not something that is reserved especially for gun facts. Most all facts, as it happens, cause this group of sneering, self-satisfied, cloistered morons to instantly flop sweat. Which is why they are so carefully kept from the show’s panels and hosts.
When they aren’t, this happens:
Ouch.
Somebody at MSNBC is going to lose a job over this.
Mark Halperin really is an asshole. Nothing like getting schooled by a girl.
Man, what we could do with a couple of dozen more like her!
I just wish she’d been given the chance to school Halperin further. She’d barely got into the paperwork, time and expense of applying for the special permits. It would have been great to see her walk him through the whole tortu(r)ous process, and then close with “Or you can call one of your black-market buddies and pay a bundle to get one this weekend. That’s the way the pros do it.”
That was one serious ass-kicking. VERY impressive. Emily should be the spokeswoman for the NRA.
I love the wide shot near the end where all the panel is looking on horrified as she tells them that Joe doesn’t know what he’s talking about when he opines that “Obviously gun X is a bigger caliber”. “No. No it isn’t.”
Heh.
This is one time when I’m glad to hear a Valley-Girl accent on TV. (Usually it drives me insane.) The fact that she doesn’t sound erudite OR rural but rather like a teen-aged girl emphasizes the fact that she’s communicating basic information that any moron should know but that they don’t.
It makes them look even worse when she schools them.
Well done, sistah.
“I thought you wee born with a shot gun, a sawed off shotgun, in your hands…”
And bazookas and grenades at Walmart where kids can by them and nuclear bombs on cruise missiles AMIRITE? You rednecks want to buy tanks!
You can get a .22lr that looks like an AR-15. That’s a SCARY gun.
A Mosin Nagant
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Mosin-Nagant_M1891_-_Ryssland_-_AM.032971.jpg
A Mosin Nagant put into a new stock kit with a larger fixed magazine and bi-pod added.
http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2011/08/03/172032_01_mosin_nagant_bullpup_modificat_640.jpg
It’s bigger caliber right? Lol. Same fuckin’ gun. Made in the 1930’s probably. Someone just spent a lot of money on an old cheap mil-sup bolt action and made it look all sci-fi and shorter and slapped a new scope on it. That’s probably $800 worth of stuff slapped on a $200 rifle.
And it’s still probably just a 200 yard gun (though improved a bit) that probably shoots considerably worse than a modern bolt action hunter like a Savage Axis or Ruger American in .30-06 that you could buy for $300- $600 depending on whether you got a 4x scope with it. It will not only shoot farther but hit a little bit harder.
On the other hand the Mosin has cheap surplus ammo for sale and is between a .308 winchester and .30-06 in power. And you get the fun of slapping an exotic looking $300 stock kit and a trigger transmission bar into an old gun, making it shorter and lighter, and slapping a scope and bipod on it to make it look way different than it started out.
But the point is, SAME GUN.
Want Semi-auto?
SKS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/SKS_-_Ryssland_-_AM.045810.jpg
SKS W/ New polymer Stock, accessories, and removable AK magazine kit: http://www.aaarmory.com/images/sks.jpg
SKS In a bullpup stock : http://sgworks.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Bullpup-Stock.jpg
SKS in different Bullpup stock: http://www.cbrps.com/publishImages/Products~~element800.JPG
SAME GUN! DIFFERENT COSMETICS!
Again, w/ a scary gun.
AK-47: http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/ak47.jpg
Ak-47 with bullpup kit: http://www.cbrps.com/publishImages/Products~~element392.JPG
AK-47 with DIFFERENT Bullpup kit: http://www.cbrps.com/AKX1S_left_front_flash_drum.JPG
Cosmetics.
You’d think if there were just one single thing that a cable TV talking head could understand, it would be cosmetics.
Cosmetics
As Squid could tell you, the DFLers walked out of a committe hearing rather than look upon a run-of-the-mill 10/22 and a SCARY BLACK 10/22 with a folding stock and extended magazine.
Probably because of the despair.
I have and S&W M&P that looks exactly like the .223 rifle. But it’s a .22. Which was good enough for Chechens to use as sniper rifles.
Meanwhile, there are hunting rifles that fire stuff meant to put down bears or elephants.
God, how I loathe these morons.
So delightful to see her eat their lunch.
And Mark Halperin? You may not realize it, pal… but you really came across as a snarky douchebag.
D’ya suppose the other slow Joe supposes it hurts worse when you get shot in the chest by that S&W than it does when you get tagged by, say a Marlin Model 60, which hurts worse than getting tagged by Winchester 94 chambered for the .22lr?
Because perception is reality, you know.
I usually stay away from those type of shows because the stupid, it burns. And this video proves it! There was so much ignorance in that clip that any person I know would be embarrassed to show their faces in public, much less on television. They seem to revel in it. Halperin, as someone up thread pointed out, comes across as a complete douche (the douche part is emphasized by the fact that he thinks he’s actually making a good point) The section where Scarborough just kept digging himself in deeper by trying to insist that these rifles and the bullets they use are more powerful than regular rifles was just painful. I almost felt sorry for him.
M&P 15-22? That’s an assault weapon now, at least in CT.
I rented one at the range in CA as I was taking a 10 yr old shooting for the first time. I wish I could have seen the look on my face when I realized why round #11 wouldn’t go in the standard 25 round mag.
The next gun I plan to get is a “factory” Ruger 10/22 breakdown and a replacement folding wire stock for it from AGP.
I am also curious about a Henry AR-7 but I think the 20/22 Breakdown is a better way to go. If they get any bans in place thanks to our GOP heroes going all ‘Wile E . Coyote: Super Genius’ on us between now and the day I go to buy them, I guess I’ll get a Marlin 22LR or Mossberg 702 instead of waiting for the money to do a 10/22 Breakdown and folding stock kit. But I still want to mes with an AR-7 some day.
Then I’ll probably get the Mosin Nagant (M44 if I can get it, from Classic Arms) and try to do something simple and skeletonized with it like this guy did:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GeV9xqLqp4.
Then I’ll probably get the Mosin Nagant (M44 if I can get it, from Classic Arms) – See more at: https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51479#comments
For the 7.62 54R cartridge the M44 is a flame thower. The M31 is much more accurate with not so much muzzle blast.
I’m a big fan of accuracy.
Greetings:
I would recommend that Emily sharpen her lecture a bit in two regards.
First, the assault weapon versus machine gun differentiation. My understanding is that assault weapons are magazine-fed while machine guns are belt-fed. The operative difference being that machine guns can continue firing indefinitely or until the barrel melts while assault weapons stop when the magazine empties.
Second, on her explication of the “assault weapon” term. The term originated in regard to the infantry tactic of assaulting an enemy-occupied location.. The automatic firing capability was an important part of success in those efforts in regard to what is known as “suppressive fire”. Unfortunately, these days, most of our demilitarized population associate “assault” with criminal activity. Thus, an additional layer of insidiousness in the misuse of the term.
Never satisfied, are you?
“assault weapons are magazine-fed”
Asssault weapon is an arbitrary designation given to “scary” guns that is designed to be confused with Assault rifle which indicates a select fire weapon for military or paramilitary use.
Similarly the term semi-automatic sounds a lot like “automatic like a machine gun only not quite as fast” ot the gun ignorant. Many also get the term mixed up with sub-machine gun and believe that there is currently no restriction on civilians buying automatic weapons. They think that an AR-15 can spew bullets like M-16’s do in the movies and that somehow they don’t require much aiming at specific targets and that they just put out a cone of mass death and feed flawlessly and the barrel never gets warped out shot out even with sustained rapid fire. Furthermore the stupids believed in the early 90’s that glocks were made entirely of plastic and invisible to metal detectors, that teflon coating makes hand gun bullets capable of penetrating body armor, and that black talon rounds are more than a variant of hollow point rounds. They seem to believe that depleeted uranium is a nuclear weapon, that napalm is still in common use, and that white phosphorous is a chemical weapon in the same sense that Ricin is.
They look on weaponry with about the same accuracy and seriousness that third grade playground rumors possess on the topic of sex. It’s a weird mess of urban legends, Leprechaun sightings, odd dreams you might have had after too many bowls of chili, and Cinemax passing itself off as common sense.
Yet they want to write laws.
Technically assault rifle is a select fire weapon for military or paramilitary use that uses intermediate rounds so soldiers can carry more round, usually viewed as the successor to battle rifles as the main line infantry small arm.
An assault rifle seems to me to necessitate it having a bayonet attacked. For the assaulting.
Damn, Jeff! How’s that M&P supposed to work with all that rust from the lake bottom?
I thought Emily did fine with that panel. Unassuming, non-threatening and patiently correct. If I’d been there I’d have reacted in an assaultive manner.
It’s depressing though that there is such a complete social divide between those who know what they’re talking about and those who don’t care to know.
Bayonets are worthless. It’s the lug you have to watch out for. Especially if it’s in cahoots with that shoulder thing that goes up.