John Cole points me to this astounding piece from TalkLeft’s TChris, reprinted here in all it’s confused glory:
The right wing built its power by embracing extremism, but surely those who still claim to be “compassionate conservatives†will publicly oppose this hate mongering:
“Members of a church say God is punishing American soldiers for defending the United States, a country that harbors gays, and they brought their anti-gay message to the funerals Saturday of two Tennessee soldiers killed in Iraq. …
“The Rev. Fred Phelps, founder of Westboro Baptist Church in, Topeka, Kan., contends that American soldiers are being killed in Iraq as vengeance from God for protecting a country that harbors gays. …
“The church members carried signs and shouted things such as ‘God hates fags’ and ‘God hates you.’”
Remember when the left was denounced for “fuzzy thinking� What about denouncing unthinking hatred?
Done and done, TChris. I hereby denounce unthinking hatred and/or hatemongering.
Of course, by denouncing Phelps, I’m not doing anything that a host of “rightwingers” haven’t done on any number of previous occasions, but then, that’s hardly the irony here.
No, the irony is, Fred Phelps is a Democrat.
Which means, of course, that in his feeble attempt to smear all Republicans with the actions of extremists like Phelps, TChris has inadvertantly succeeded in smearing all Democrats with that same silly brush.
But no worries, TChris. I promise not to tar all Democrats with the “extremist” label simply because Fred Phelps happens to vote Donk.
Well, provided you DENOUNCE THE HATE!
After all, we know that God isn’t punishing American soldiers for defending a country that harbors gays. Instead, it is clearly dialectical materialism that is punishing American soldiers for fighting on the side of a capitalist/imperialist hegemonizing force against the inexorable tide of history’s march toward a socialist utopia.
Jesus, biblethumpers. Get a clue, would you?
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update: Be sure to check out the comments at Cole’s and TalkLeft, where the lefties are cashing in every rhetorical chip then can lay hands on in order to bend this idiotic post into something that, when you really parse it carefully, does, in fact, Speak Truth to Power.
Well, its an understandable mistake, really.
I mean, most leftists simply presume that they’ve driven all but the Unitarians out of the party proper. Thus, all extremist religiosity (and the bar is set pretty low, so Phelps clears it with ease) must, perforce, come from the right.
TChris filed under “Generic Childish Right-hating Tactics.”
Idiot.
Turing word passed, as in “Haven’t we passed the intellectual maturity mark where Republicans = Christians = KKK is no longer a valid talking point?”
And here I thought that God was punishing us for Patrick Swayze!?!
Well I’ll be gawddammed. What the hell am I going to do with 50 “God hated Roadhouse” signs?
Conversely, does it make me any less of a person to claim that the difference between the Christian KKK intolerant evangelical religious blah blah blah and the Leftie Moore-ish Bush-hating smear merchant is that the former are generally disliked by the sane Right-Centrists and the latter are embraced by most Lefties?
Turing word “all” as in “ALL EEEVIL CHRISTIAN EVANGELICALS SEEKS TO LEGISLATE MORALITY WHICH IS CLEARLY WRONG!”
Sorry, those juvenile barbs get old FAST.
Oh, that’s rich right there Jeff. I mean, if shooting yourself in the foot is one thing, but you’re supposed to do that before you put it in your mouth TChris. So, you know, you don’t blow your partisan, mudslinging, dumbass face off.
I can’t rightly tell you that, alppucchino. Best I can reckon, you just need to keep repeating to yourself the Roadhouse mantra: “Pain don’t hurt. Pain don’t hurt. Pain don’t hurt…”
DID HE COMPARE YOU RIGHT WING NUTS TO HITLER?
No…? Well then quit your bitching.
From a Mother Jones article linked by Cole:
“Because of their years as loyal Democrats, the Phelpses have even been invited to—and attended—both of Clinton’s inaugurations.”
You really can’t make this shit up.
Can us right wingers denounce the other side? I thought there were rules to follow. These are confusing times.
I cannot believe that you would crush TalkLefts dissent by countering his lies with truth. Are you not aware, sir, that truth is simply a matter of repeating something often enough. By my count, Phelps is now officially a Republican. Have you no shame sir? Have you no decency in you?
The shift nurse for Senator Kleagle Hood (D-WV) asks that you Chimpler groupies keep it down; your HATE and HYPOCRISY are disturbing his rest.
Thanks AWG,
You know……….your not a bouncer. You’re a cooler.
Cool, maybe TalkLeft can now accuse Cindy Sheehan of her raging fascism due to her association with Stormfront and the National Vanguard.
I don’t know if it’s really true or not, but it sounds right.
Damn!! You’re!!!
Has anyone broken this news to TalkLeft?
I swear I cannot stop laughing! OMG! This is the funniest damn thing I’ve seen in a long time. It even tops the sweet little Kodee debacle of last week…and that was some serious hilarity. I keep imaging TChris’ sanctimonious face turn to a snarl, and a scream of “Curses, foiled again!” rise from his throat as he realizes that if he had just clicked on one more Google return he could have avoided looking so pathetically stupid.
After a day like I had at the office, this is just what I needed.
Yeah, but…he hates like a hating Republican.
Maybe Phelps likes to maintain his Democrat status for the kinky sex.
I thought God was punishing us because we have continued to let the Moonbats live. I guess I can go ahead and SWAT a bunch of ‘em now.
It’s moments like this that argue most persuasively for the existence of a just and hilarious God.
The Phelps thing always bugged me because his movement/”church” is literally made up of his friggin’ family, which numbers something like 25 people or so, and who are universally treated as whackjobs and sickos by any Republican who has ever commented on them.
But even if I had known he was a Democrat all along, I don’t think it would be approrpiate to use him as a cudgel against Dems, because it’s clear he’s an ostracized nutball.
So I have to admit, this looks suspiciously like cosmic justice to me.
It doesn’t matter which party he registers as, that Phelps guy is just plain creepy…
I think every blog should probably create a little disclaimer audio file for itself, read in a soothing voice like the list of possibly fatal side-effects at the end of a prescription drug ad. Like, “This blog hereby formally disassociates itself with Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Fred Phelps, Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, Justin Raimondo, any and all Neo-Nazi or Holocaust denying organizations. . .and we might as well add Hitler and Stalin for good measure. Please adjust your straw men accordingly.”
Either that, or the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy needs to start formally excommunicating people. Or, perhaps, making all these guys wear a giant red “A” about their necks, putting them in the stocks, having their shoulders branded or their right hands cut off.
“Yeah, but…he hates like a hating Republican.”
Oh, stop…please make it stop!!!
This is even more Leftist lunacy to feast upon. Okay, let me get this straight; the fact that an avowed Democrat nutjob is a hate-monger is proof that Republicans are evil?
Where do you people come up with this stuff? I mean, you must actually practice at making no sense whatsoever?
Whatever, Slartibartfast. It’s completely fine by me if you and your fellow Moonbats want to rationalize yourselves into political irrelevancy.
Slartibartfast was making a funny.
But I think you can probably be excused for your confusion; I have many times in the past mistaken earnest leftists for ironic conservatives–it can, indeed, be very difficult to tell the difference.
Cardinal Nation, I would suggest you read Slartibartfast’s many comments on other threads before hurling the moonbat accusation again. Slarti is a moonbat’s worst nightmare.
Carpenter for Cy Young. Pujols for MVP. LaRussa for Manager of the Year. And a World Series Trophy for Cardinal Nation.
He is also a lawyer, as is 11 of his 13 kids. How the fuck is this not a reality TV show?
I adore the comments at TalkLeft. They’re basically saying, “So what if he SAYS he’s a Democrat? We all know only Republicans are hatemongers, so he must be a Republican POSING as a Democrat!”
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Of course. Because it makes SO much sense to define our political parties as “the hatemongers” and “the nonhatemongers”. Ugh.
I like John Cole, but his comments section has become a sad, sad place. Geez, most of the commenters there can’t even call an idiot an idiot (Phelps) without moral equivalence.
Got them stirred up royally but I have to go back to work now. Heheh introduced Walter Reed and the crosses at Crawford.]
Turns out the couple of parents I read about got to take the names off.,
One guy said to say different was rank lieing but I posted some references which included the initial refusals.
Oh and some choice words by one of the GIs at Walter Red about Code Pink’s Support of the Troops
Ciao
Strom Thurmon, Jesse Helms, George Wallace and Lester Maddox were all Democrats. For most of the last century, the Democratic Party was the Party of the Confederacy. The deep South always voted for Democrats.
When Kennedy and Johnson made it clear the Democratic Party no longer would support the racist Dixiecrats, the Republicans rushed to get the racist votes. Nixon’s southern strategy and Reagans idiotic code words will always be a blot on your Party. Your glee in discovering some Confederate throw-back only points out how deep your Party has sunk.
First off, the Repubs aren’t my party. And lord knows they aren’t perfect. The problem is, that right now they are the only serious party in town. Mostly becuase some people are more interested in forty years ago than today.
Those same people seem to be pleasantly oblivious to the current qutoa system the left insists the democratic party maintian. Like wise, they are oblivious to the unmitigated evil that has spread over the Middle East and threatens even our shores. Perhps we shouldn’t call these people democrats.
Perhaps we should lable them oblivious. Senators Boxer, Leahy, Kerry, and yes, Kennedy would, of course, be the oblivious party’s leaders. Folks that are still blathering about the “Southern Strategy” while ignoring the disaster places like Detroit have become could be the delegates at its convention. Just a thought.
TW-children. As in if half the country acts like children it can’t expect the other half to pay it much mind.
When Kennedy and Johnson made it clear the Democratic Party no longer would support the racist Dixiecrats, the Republicans rushed to get the racist votes. Nixon’s southern strategy and Reagans idiotic code words will always be a blot on your Party.
Har! The blot is a birthmark of the Democrats, if you will just peer at recent electoral trends, and keep lifespans in mind.
Once the back of Jim Crow was broken, there was little left of Democrats’ appeal in the South. The old cross-burners stayed Democrat, and the party didn’t lose it governor/senator/congress Dem edge until maybe 1990-94. Or some 30 years after JFK/LBJ got religion.
What happened was the old KKK Dems stayed Dems, and died out. Younger voters, without the “blot,” went Republican.
So, cherish your blot, because the party earned every pixel of it.
Cordially…
If I’m reading you right, Jim, you’re saying that my having pointed out how a stupid smear launched by a Dem backfired (pointing out how shallow the smear was to begin with) is proof that modern-day Republicans are evil and racist Is that it?
Nicely done. Hard to argue with that.
I just came back and found that I have indeed shamefully defamed the Great and Good Slartibartfast.
A thousand pardons, please.
PS…but dang! You sounded so convincing. “Curses, foiled again!”
All I can say is, you must have me confused with someone else. Still, apology accepted…Captain Needa.
Let’s not get carried away, here. Goldstein is the worst nightmare; I’m no more than a mild case of indigestion.
TW: freeeeeedoooooooom! (To be read in a voice as bellowed by Mel Gibson).
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