– I’m pretty sure the squishies have all been smoked out at this point, so the Gopers may actually hold out, but don’t bet the farm on it. Still it would be a ray of sunshine in an otherwise miserable nightmare.
I would like the Republicans to get in front of every microphone they can and restate over and over a easy to understand simple message. Obamacare for everyone, or Obamacare for no one.
Make it a red line, Obamacare will not be funded unless it is the law for everyone including the President and his family, Congress and their families, Supreme Court Justices and their families, unions, corporations, eight down to the lowliest welfare queen. EVERYONE. NO exceptions, wavers, or special treatment of any kind.
I mean, how hard of a requirement would that be to sell to the public?
Who wants ClownDisasterCare for everyone, even if only rhetorically (the socialists, that’s who)? So why would those who oppose it ever suggest everyone should have it in any respect? I mean, ClownDisasterCare isn’t good, precisely because of the pretense of universality, and even worse should anything remotely resembling political universality come about. For the only possible universality is a universality of poverty and want.
Granted, it’s altogether another matter to insist that laws must be executed as written, and not arbitrarily revised as the tyrant chooses to reward his friends and punish his enemies whenever he sees fit. But it seems to me that this is a different argument than the simple red-line contrast you pose Lee.
I agree it’s a condition that can’t be met. But what will be our surprise when the leftists truncate-quote every opponent of ClownDisasterCare saying clear as day: “ObamaCare for everyone!”?
I’m afraid “what will be our surprise when the leftists truncate-quote every opponent” will be ever with us, and should not serve to silence us.
I do see your point, so by all means massage the message if you want. But I still say there’s a strong simple message there that Obamacare is inherently incapable if being equitable, and until it is made so should not be funded.
Not a penny until all waivers, exemptions, and other special considerations are withdrawn. Force the bastards to trash the whole thing and start over at square one.
For my part, massaging the message isn’t the thing, or won’t be, if only because of my idiosyncratic limitations — I’m just not a fit rhetorician.
Whether right or wrong, I find myself far more interested in getting to the fundamental question, which in the context of this conversation looks something like “what is law, if not entirely non-arbitrary?”, but which in the wider sense looks more to me like “Who is sovereign, who is to rule in the United States of America? The people? Or the leader-man, The ClownDisaster?”
To be honest, I think in this post constitutional land of ours, it is the MSM, simultaneously speaking for and indoctrinating the people, who rule in the USA.
Privately owned Mount Vernon shutdown by Park Service which is part owner of the parking lots. Plus:
The NPS has stationed officers along the Chesapeake & Ohio Canal that runs 184 miles from Washington, D.C. to Cumberland, Maryland to make sure nobody uses the bike paths. It would have required less manpower to keep this trail open. The handles on all the well pumps have also been removed.
– The feds also shut down a tiny park in which children play on fake turtles, prompting angry mothers to remove the barriers, only to see them put back up. “The park is extremely small and sort of seems pointless to block off,” reports the Daily Caller.
– Lincoln Park in DC, which is known to be used by several Democratic Senators, was not shut down, but numerous national parks across Montana were closed.
Someone tried to ram gate at the White House, then fled to Capitol Hill. Shots were fired
[…]
[S]hooter in custody.
[…]
Cops were chasing a black car near the Capitol building. They cornered the car and that’s when shots rang out.
The chase began when the woman driving a black sedan got involved in some kind of verbal altercation with officers at a security checkpoint a block from the White House, the intelligence source said.
As police cars arrived at the scene, the vehicle sped away and led police on a wild chase that included running red lights, according to the source.
When the vehicle approached the area of the Capitol building more than a mile away, several squad cars stopped it and officer “came out with their guns drawn,” said Frank Schwing, a D.C. resident who witnessed what happened.
The armed officers tried to open the passenger side door, he said.
“At that point, the driver slammed into reverse, slammed into a cruiser, did a 180 (degree turn), took off, and at that point, there were a half dozen or so shots fired,” Schwing told CNN, apparently all by small arms from police.
The black vehicle then crashed into security barriers closer to the Capitol building, said police and witnesses.
Multiple sources told CNN that it is not believed at this point any shots were fired from the car and no weapon has been found so far.
I’d like to know the precise location where the Black Infiniti ended up (on the Capitol grounds? which is a big area) and the incident ended, but so far haven’t been able to find that information, despite looking at approx. 5 distinct news stories. The press seems incapable of communicating the most basic stuff.
Only because the story there had links to other ones which I also included. The Mount Vernon story was elsewhere too but Drudge linked to the info-war site and they had more stories linked so I used them.
Way to go, Darleen.
I was just thinking that Bart is probably more mature-acting than Obama. Also, he’s honest in his own way, unlike our incredibly dishonest president.
Racists.
Racist.
Presidential Ass [Clown] noted.
Anyone want to start an ‘office pool’ on the date the “GOP Reopens Government After Ignominiously Caving to the Ass Clown”? I’ve got $5 on October 13.
– I’m pretty sure the squishies have all been smoked out at this point, so the Gopers may actually hold out, but don’t bet the farm on it. Still it would be a ray of sunshine in an otherwise miserable nightmare.
But… but… it’s the Republican’s fault! The media told me so!
I swear, the Dems look more and more like the so-called “Palestineans” every day…
When given 97% of what they are asking for, the response is “Thanks for all those concessions, but unless you let us kill you, too, THIS MEANS WAR!”
– When the end finally comes for the Left, and sooner or later they won’t be able to keep all the balls in the air, it will be butt-crack ugly.
– If Bumblefuck and the Senate Dems have a plan ‘B’, now would be a really good time to trot it out.
– Things arre not going so well for the Narrative.
butt-crack ugly
Ugly? There’s a frequent photo-spread feature at The Chive known as “Mind the Gap” which might beg to differ on the aesthetic question, so . . .
. . . maybe another somewhat more universally agreeable example might be found — like, say, rotting corpse ugly, or Babs Mikulsky ugly.
I would like the Republicans to get in front of every microphone they can and restate over and over a easy to understand simple message. Obamacare for everyone, or Obamacare for no one.
Make it a red line, Obamacare will not be funded unless it is the law for everyone including the President and his family, Congress and their families, Supreme Court Justices and their families, unions, corporations, eight down to the lowliest welfare queen. EVERYONE. NO exceptions, wavers, or special treatment of any kind.
I mean, how hard of a requirement would that be to sell to the public?
Who wants ClownDisasterCare for everyone, even if only rhetorically (the socialists, that’s who)? So why would those who oppose it ever suggest everyone should have it in any respect? I mean, ClownDisasterCare isn’t good, precisely because of the pretense of universality, and even worse should anything remotely resembling political universality come about. For the only possible universality is a universality of poverty and want.
Granted, it’s altogether another matter to insist that laws must be executed as written, and not arbitrarily revised as the tyrant chooses to reward his friends and punish his enemies whenever he sees fit. But it seems to me that this is a different argument than the simple red-line contrast you pose Lee.
The point is, it is a condition that could never be met, so there would be a very strong argument for never funding it.
I agree it’s a condition that can’t be met. But what will be our surprise when the leftists truncate-quote every opponent of ClownDisasterCare saying clear as day: “ObamaCare for everyone!”?
I’m afraid “what will be our surprise when the leftists truncate-quote every opponent” will be ever with us, and should not serve to silence us.
I do see your point, so by all means massage the message if you want. But I still say there’s a strong simple message there that Obamacare is inherently incapable if being equitable, and until it is made so should not be funded.
Not a penny until all waivers, exemptions, and other special considerations are withdrawn. Force the bastards to trash the whole thing and start over at square one.
For my part, massaging the message isn’t the thing, or won’t be, if only because of my idiosyncratic limitations — I’m just not a fit rhetorician.
Whether right or wrong, I find myself far more interested in getting to the fundamental question, which in the context of this conversation looks something like “what is law, if not entirely non-arbitrary?”, but which in the wider sense looks more to me like “Who is sovereign, who is to rule in the United States of America? The people? Or the leader-man, The ClownDisaster?”
I find this impromptu conference between Paul and McConnell to be somewhat reassuring. Superficial as all get-out, but reassuring just the same.
To be honest, I think in this post constitutional land of ours, it is the MSM, simultaneously speaking for and indoctrinating the people, who rule in the USA.
Like this.
As for who ultimately controls the MSM, there are many theories.
Gov Walker Removes Federal Barricades in Wisconsin
Heh. Good one, Darleen.
Also, racist.
More shutdowns of privately run companies ordered during this shutdown that never were before.
The Andrews AFB golf course is open however.
Privately owned Mount Vernon shutdown by Park Service which is part owner of the parking lots. Plus:
Shots reported at Capital. About 1000 feet from the Capital building at 1st and Constitution NW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eziI4h3J0Eg#t=26
Rand Paul and McConnel on “hot mic” about the impasse.
Female driver in capital incident, reported dead.
Has anyone seen Michelle O lately?
I’d like to know the precise location where the Black Infiniti ended up (on the Capitol grounds? which is a big area) and the incident ended, but so far haven’t been able to find that information, despite looking at approx. 5 distinct news stories. The press seems incapable of communicating the most basic stuff.
GeoffB at 1234. Linking Alex Jones?!?
Maryland Ave, sdferr.
Bob.
Only because the story there had links to other ones which I also included. The Mount Vernon story was elsewhere too but Drudge linked to the info-war site and they had more stories linked so I used them.
Fair enough, Geoff.
“Has anyone seen Michelle O lately?”
Ghobe’. (Klingon word for no.)