In his WorldNetDaily column, “A national emergency,” populist firebrand Pat Buchanan calls for the impeachment of President Bush, citing the President’s failure to protect the country from illegal immigration as reason enough to begin proceedings against him:
Twice, George Bush has taken an oath to “preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.” Article IV, Section 4 of that Constitution reads, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion.”
Well, we are being invaded, and the president of the United States is not doing his duty to protect the states against that invasion. Some courageous Republican, to get the attention of this White House, should drop into the hopper a bill of impeachment, charging George W. Bush with a conscious refusal to uphold his oath and defend the states of the Union against “invasion.”
It may be the only way left to get his attention, before the border vanishes and our beloved country dissolves into MexAmerica, what T.R. called a “polyglot boarding house for the world.”
Reached for comment, MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough called Buchanan’s piece “a tad hyperbolic” but nevertheless agreed, as a “goodwill gesture to Pat,” to direct his “Scarborough Country” staff to stop serving tortilla chips and salsa in the co-hosts’ dressing rooms.
(h/t LaShawn Barber)
update: Oh, and for the record? I’m for serious immigration reform and believe that the current Republican administration has been dragging its feet in terms of physically shoring up the border; but I think stunts like the kind Buchanan is calling for (particularly when coupled with Buchanan’s history of nativism and xenophobia) just end up hurting the reform movement.
There. I said it.
I agree that immigration reform if that’s what you want to call getting rid of the illegals is important, but if we impeach W, I’ve got a list of druthers:
1.) Failure, abject failure to meet with Mother Sheehan at least 100 times.
2.) Failure to assassinate Hugo Chavez. (h/t Pat Robertson)
3.) Inability to pronounce “nuclear”.
4.) Personally outing that CIA clerk-typist.
5.) Conspiracy to defame for having Karl spike Lance Armstrong’s six year old piss.
6.) Not stopping the hurricane.
There’s plenty more that W has done that calls for impeachment…I just can’t think of them now. Just as soon as I talk to the Kos Kidz I’ll be back and post the rest of the list.
Oh, yeah! I just thought of another one – That was really George in a full face mask on the subway beating off!
MEXIPHOBE!
I believe in lots of legal immigration. No reason at all that Mexico shouldn’t be one of the primary sources of that immigration.
But god damn it, they have to get in line with everybody else.
8. Abu Ghraib
9. The death of Uday and Qusay Hussein
10. Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
11. The PATRIOT Act, which has turned the US to a permanent and illegal totalitarian state.
12. Jenga! (There has to be a connection)
13. That “twang” he uses when he gets tough (it scares the faculty at Harvard)
14. Two words: Caspian Oil pipeline.
Okay, three words, then.
15. Reality Television shows.
16. Some war thing goin’ on somewhere overseas.
17. The hole in Jeff’s Jeans.
18. Hatcheting up the oppression of speaking truth to power.
(God, I HATE that phrase)
19. That incident with the male horse his wife mentioned a while back.
ISRAEL AND 9/11: QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED
Justin Raimondo has more in-depth analysis and links.
[edited to remove entire article; I’m certain those of you who wish to can click the links – ed]
20 reading to school kids
21. bloging
22.) Getting rid of Dan Rather.
23. Not crying on television when talking about the flood, like the nice Governor from Louisiana.
Gawd ghandi, can’t you see that we’re discussing something really serious here: the impeachment of the President!. We know it’s all about the JOOOOOOOOOS! But we gotta get rid of W.
Seriously, ghandi, don’t you have some Jewish shop windows you can smash up there in Australia? This thread is about impeaching an American president, it shouldn’t concern you.
Okay I checked my dictionary and found:
Gandi, a Hindu name for the flowery hemorrhoid dangling from a Dumb Ass.
24. Letting himself be manipulated by vicious bloodthirsty neocon jews into fighting an illegal war for oil and Israel.
Happy now, Ghandi?
25. Collaborating with Israel to perpetrate 9/11. Cuz there were Jewish artists running around our country and spying.. or something.
I think the argument is that they knew 911 was about to happen because they’d been tracking the terror cells, and they allowed it to happen without warning because it would mean that 4 years later, they’d get to live through an intifada and give up Gaza and west bank settlements.
Or something along those lines.
But really, who knows what the Jews were up to? Their agenda is so super-secret and devious that even THEY don’t know how it helps them.
Oh. And I forgot to mention that those on the 911 Committee were ordered by the Neocons to ignore the evidence. The Dems on the Committee did so out of fear for their lives.
After all, they know who really run things.
Ah, Justin Raimondo. The fruit bats of the far-left meet the fruit cakes of the far-right. Aptly called ‘moronic convergence’.
Yup, that pretty much sums it up. And you just KNOW ghandi is lurking, so this one’s for you, mate!
<a href=”Bush is the anti-Christ!” target=”_blank”>Bush is the anti-Christ!</a>
Get cracking, ghandi, and be sure to tell Justin about it. (And throw in something about Jews, just to spice it up.)
Turns out the freckle on William Jefferson’s schnitzendruben is really a micro-tatoo of all the incriminating dirt he has on the 911 commish dems and Sandy Berger. It’s whereabouts are only known to several hundred semi-attractive-from-a-certain-distance-in-the-right-light women.
Ah Vince – we hardly knew ye.
Damn!! Bush = Anti-Christ
Sorry Jeff.
I remember the Carl Cameron piece on FOX, by the way. Here’s what CAMERA has to say.
…like the Mexican who told P.J. O’Rourke he didn’t mind so much that America stole half of his country; it just pissed him off that we stole the half with the good roads.
Okay, I think I’ve got the gandhi/Raimondo thing mapped out now:
The CIA had outsourced its intelligence collecting on al-Qaeda terrorists to Mossad agents in the US. These agents kept a close eye on the terrorists who ended up being responsible for 911 (Raimondo makes the jump that the agents were close enough in physical proximity that they must have known of the 911 plot). From there, he suggests that Israeli spies kept a gentleman’s agreement, which in turn prevented them from alerting the authorities about what they knew. Also, Able Danger was stopped because its data mining activities were in conflict with the CIA’s use of Mossad.
So Israel is to blame both for having foreknowledge and for following an unwritten protocol that prevents them from saying anything about it. Presumably, Israel would benefit from our not knowing the attacks were coming, because they knew we’d react strongly against the Muslim world, which somehow helps Israel (unclear how); what they never counted on were people like Shea and gandhi and Justin unraveling the whole sordid conspiracy.
Right?
Meanwhile, from his hide-out in a fruit-bat cave in Afghanistan, Osama dictates a letter to his top-secret agent embedded with the Bush clan at their compound in Crawford:
“Dear Barbara…”
I think it is deeper than that JG, you are ignoring the DEA thing. I value my life too much to spell it out, but think about it CIA, Air America, DEA, Al Franken and Karl Rove have never been seen together in the same room, how the fuck does Randy Rhodes have a job? THEY WERE SELLING ART FOR CRISSAKES DO I HAVE TO DRAW YOU A PICTURE!!!!!!!!!
Kind of pointless quoting a pro-Isreali watchdog like CAMERA to support your “argument”. The fact that they say the story is bogus is about as valid as Cheney saying “We know where the WMDs are”.
There are more than a few facts in those articles if you care to examine them…
PS: Dripping sarcasm is NOT a valid logical argument.
Dripping sarcasm is NOT a valid logical argument.
Neither is putting scare quotes around “argument.”
And who am I supposed to cite that would work to your satisfaction? FOX pulled the story. But to you, that’s just MORE evidence someone or something that can exert “pressure” got to them. It feeds the conspiracy.
And though you’re not anti-semitic (as you keep reminding us) you equate—explicitly—pro-Israeli media watchdog sites with cover-up and dishonesty. Tell me, how deep does this conspiracy go? Who, exactly, knows about it? Do the CAMERA people? The “agents” who were detained and released without being charged? Who?
Incidentally, I read the articles. I read Raimondo’s original series when he wrote it. I know all about the white van. I likewise know all about the little Arab kid who pointed to the towers a few days before 911 and said something to the effect of, “in a few days those will be gone”—a story that was included in the National Geographic special on 911. But I don’t hear Justin talking about that.
Explain to me the rationale for the conspiracy. Why were the agents in government buildings drawing attention to themselves? Were they trying to get caught? And what was their motivation for not telling our people—people who, presumably, trusted them enough to hire them as an outsourced intelligence source? Because they thought that our anger at the Muslims would help them? How? We’re already a staunch ally with Israel. What’s the payoff?
The payoff? Um, well, uhhhhh…JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!!!
TW = run, as in “The you-know-whos secretly run the world, right Ghandi?”
A new meme for the left: Anti-semitism, the truest form of patriotism!!!
Damn, I guess I should have written that in all caps. It’s not official to the left if it isn’t in all caps.
who am I supposed to cite that would work to your satisfaction?
How about an impartial voice? Someone NOT connected with the corrupt Bush neocon administration OR Isreali Zionists? Like say the Philadelphia Times Herald?
Or how about providing ANSWERS instead of cynical questions? For example, why wasn’t this information included in the 9/11 report? Or why did the owner of Urban Moving Systems flee the USA in December 2001? (and yes, he did go to Israel).
You want some real in-depth analysis, look at this.
Why were the agents in government buildings drawing attention to themselves?
Maybe they were “celebrating the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.”
What’s YOUR explanation of all this? Instead of suggesting answers, you wanna talk about an Arab kid who supposedly knew the WTC was going to be hit? So what? Hello-o-o, Jeffrey: the Al Quaeda attackers were Arabs! Don’t throw red herrings into the mix.
26. PIE, goddamnit! I still don’t have my pie! HEADS WILL ROLL!!
the Al Quaeda attackers were Arabs! Don’t throw red herrings into the mix.
BTW I know the whatreallyhappened link I provided discusses the theory that Al Quaeda was not even involved, but I am not claiming that here.
I just want answers to some pretty obvious questions. It is not conspiratorial or unpatriotic to DISCUSS this stuff.
no, i think it covers conspiratorial pretty well .
Funny how I’m not allowed to cite “pro-Zionist” sources but you can cite whatreallyhappened as if it were the New York Times.
Listen—the point of my “asking” what kinds of sources you WOULD accept was ironic, gandhi, precisely because you use the absense of reporting as further proof of the cover-up, whereas I use Occam’s razor.
The fact is, I don’t know why some things were left out of the 911 Report, but I suspect it’s because only a few conspiracy-addled crackpots believe them to have the kind of importance you and Raimondo and Shea do.
The reason I asked YOU questions is because this is YOUR narrative. I’m not obliged to answer, because frankly, I don’t know. What I do know, however, is that certain facts that I keep running into don’t add up when you shoehorn them into YOUR story—which is why it’s incumbent upon YOU to explain them.
You say these Mossad agents were inside government buildings drawing attention to themselves and selling art to “celebrate” having spied on the US? Doesn’t that undermine the success of “spying,” which, presumably, is to be secret?
And again, what is the motive and the reward?
Look, some guy in a fringe PA paper writes a story much like Cameron’s original FOX series, which the network ultimately spiked. My thesis is, FOX spiked it because it was silly and, once thought through, would require the kinds of answers I’m asking YOU for.
This Times Herald story repeats the same memes from shortly after 911 and adds virtually nothing new, except that the 911 commission didn’t include it in its report. Occams razor argues that they didn’t include it because it was itself a red herring; you and Justin and Shea (I would list a few DEA agents,as well, except that the connection is an illusion; they were suspicious, but not for the reasons Raimondo or Shea argue we should be suspicious) believe there is much more to the story, and are now speculating that Able Danger was spiked because the neocons feared that the FBI ‘s guys would run up against the Mossad agents the CIA had outsourced. Fine. Continue, I’m listening.
These “spies” weren’t arrested. Why?
If you want to tell me I can’t ask questions, then there’s nothing left to talk about.
And stop calling me Jeffrey. It’s not my name.
Would you accept Jewff?
If you… really ARE a Jew, for that matter.
I came to this comments section well after the arguments have developed, but I do have one thing to add:
Justin Raimondo?
Come on, Ghandi, if you’re going to drop names to try and convince people, JR’s name might not be the one to drop anywhere outside of a Stormfront meeting.
Come on, Ghandi, if you’re going to drop names to try and convince people, JR’s name might not be the one to drop anywhere outside of a Stormfront meeting.
…or a NAMBLA mixer.
turing word: love.
you just can’t make this stuff up.
A fact is a fact is a fact, Jack.
There are a lot of strange FACTS about this story. The fact that FOX pulled the story (you can still see it here)is only one strange fact among many. Is it because their reporter got his FACTS wrong? If so, why don’t they (or you) refute those FACTS?
Instead, the reporter, Carl Cameron, has gone silent and been promoted to Fox’s chief White House reporter! Considering his most famous story was (according to FOX) not newsworthy, isn’t that kinda… wierd? Do you think it could be a pay-off? Hush money even?
And I’m not citing whatreallyhappened because I think you will lap up everything they say but because even you must surely agree that their analysis is pretty comprehensive: a lot of FACTS.
Compare that to your four-year-old CAMERA story, which quotes Bush insider John Ashcroft as a reliable source. Why not just say “Rummy/Cheney/McClellan said it’s not true, so it’s not”.
These “spies†weren’t arrested. Why?
Well, your CAMERA story also describes a judge who released Israelis because the government did not supply enough evidence to hold them, but my point is that key elements in the US government (not the whole govt, understand) were involved in the cover-up, so that’s hardly suprising.
But I would say that, wouldn’t I?
Listen, when millions of people like me were protesting in the streets and saying that Saddam had no WMDs, that was a “conspiracy”. Global warming is a “conspiracy” too, right? So is Darwin’s “theory” of evolution.
Come on! If we cannot even agree that a fact is a fact, how can we have a sane discussion on anything?
Oh! But maybe you don’t WANT a sane discussion… Maybe you just want red herrings and snide distractions and muddied waters…
FACTS can really mess up the AGENDA.
PS: Cameron has not just gone silent, he has become a full-fledged Bush distortionist! Media Matters has <a href=”http://mediamatters.org/archives/search.html?topic=Carl Cameron” target=”_blank”>THREE PAGES</a> of lies, smearing and distortion linked to his name.
Some more FACTS to discuss:
“Israel has … set up government subsidized telecommunications companies which operate here in the United States. One of these companies is Amdocs, which provides billing and directory assistance for 90% of the phone companies in the USA. Amdocs’ main computer center for billing is actually in Israel and allows those with access to do what intelligence agencies call “traffic analysis”; a picture of someone’s activities based on a pattern of who they are calling and when. Another Israeli telecom company is Comverse Infosys, which subcontracts the installation of the automatic tapping equipment now built into every phone system in America. Comverse maintains its own connections to all this phone tapping equipment, insisting that it is for maintenance purposes only. However, Converse has been named as the most likely source for leaked information regarding telephone calls by law enforcement that derailed several investigations into not only espionage, but drug running as well. Yet another Israeli telecom company is Odigo, which provides the core message passing system for all the “Instant Message” services. Two hours before the attacks on the World Trade Towers, Odigo employees received a warning. Odigo has an office 2 blocks from the former location of the World Trade Towers.”</blockquote> Or what about this:
PS: And here’s another Fox News ”reporter”” with more than questionable links to the Pentagon.
What is real and what is not?
Global warming is a not fully understood phenomenon being used as a political tool by charlatans such as yourself. Most evidence actually points to increased sun activity and temperature as the culprit, but it is a bitch for misanthropic luddites to blame that on American industry and the republicans.
And is it really against the law to sell cheesy art to narcs? Wasn’t aware of that.
Fox News erased the Cameron story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by “Orwellizing” their report of the two hour advance warning of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.
“Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It’s classified information.” – a US official in Cameron’s program.
“I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing—although that was part of it—by a sovereign foreign government… It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now.” – Senator Bob Graham, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.
The majority of the firewalls on US corporate and government computer systems are provided by just one company, Checkpoint Systems, which like Amdocs, Comverse Infosys, and Odigo, is headquartered in Israel.
Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres:
“Don’t worry about American pressure, we the Jewish people control America.”
*
“The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate.”
– Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS’ “Face the Nation”.
*
“I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews….. terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen …. I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don’t approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country”
– Sec. of State John Foster Dulles (quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff)
You want any more FACTS for this discussion?
No, it was a “lib-shit waste of time”. Get your FACTS straight, Ghandi.
I think you should try to determine that before you start swimming in the fever swamps of Zionist Conspiracy Theories.
TW: pressure. No matter how much pressure they put on him, Ghandi won’t let the dirty JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS stop him from speaking truth to power!
Actually, I’d just like to see a bit less rabid foam around your mouth.
gandhi,
You continue to be a source of great entertainment, confusing unattributed quotes, or quotes from such lumenaries as J William Fulbright, with FACTS.
But since we will never agree on who or what source can be considered objective, then I’ll just continue to laugh at your spittle-soaked diatribes about how the JOOOOOSSSSS are the cause of everything from global warming to 9/11 to gastroenteritis.
TW ago: gandhi long ago left the planet reality.
When did that conversation take place? Was it while they were drinking the blood of Gentile children?
gandhi,
You understand what FACTS are, right? Like, it might be a FACT that Dulles said something, but the content of what he said was an OPINION?
And that while it is a FACT that Cameron’s story was pulled, your conclusion as to why it was pulled is not a FACT?
And you know that the supposed quote from Sharon was originally “reported” in a press release from the Islamic Association for Palestine, and has never been verified? In other words, that it was made the fuck up?
I agree. Let me know when you possess a command of facts.
Face facts folks, Ghandi is an enemy of civilization. As long as he refrains from taking up arms against his declared enemies, he his mildly amusing, but he has shown himself numerous times to be a staunch ally of the retrograde forces afoot in the world. As for me, I stopped really reading his posts a couple of weeks ago. He might as well just type “The USA and Israel are EVIL!” several dozen times each time he comments – the effect would be the same.
For folks like Ghandi the mere fact that the world is not built on ironclad irrefutable truths know to all, is proof that something fishy is going on. The fact that there are questions is in itself proof of, well, whatever he wants it to be proof of.
Here is one for you Ghandi, since there is no ironclad proof of how humans claim to be, then how do you know that we did? Is it likely, knowing this as we now do, that we exist merely as 0’s and 1’s on G-d’s mainframe? Why do you deny what is so easily provable by my questions? Zionist!!!
TW – over, as in game over man.
claim to be should be came to be – PIMF
I write simply to note that in all of the long and varied, yet uniformly despicable posts that ghandi has graced this site with, he has never answered Jeff’s question: assuming Israeli foreknowledge, what did the Jewish nation gain by keeping intelligence regarding 9/11 to itself?
That, and the fact that this ghandi character is a repellant insect.
That is all.
Yeah, he kinda went into full-scale foam mode there, didn’t he.
For the record, Carl Cameron was promoted four years after 911, when his successor was likewise promoted. Standard company machinations? Or Jew payoff from the Zionist cabal who controls our government AND our private media (but who take their time; worldwide conspiracies are complicated things, you know)?
You be the judge.
Again, I think FOXNews judiciously ridded itself of the story because they were embarrassed by it. Ditto CNN. That kind of fevered, speculative disemination of Zionist, world-dominating mythology has caused enough grief in the world, and—like the fake Sharon quote—brings out in certain people what was always buried just beneath the surface anyway. It is hardly surprising that 24 hour news channels in the wake of 911 would breathlessly report on just about anything they were told. And there are plenty of people in the government who aren’t so fond of Israel and who harbor the kind of conspiracy fantasies Gandhi and Raimondo harbor.
That Gandhi would equate his web of supposition, unattributed sourcing, and wild conspiracy mongering to evolution gives you an idea of just how truly deluded he is. Hell, that he equates Global Warming to evolution in order to make an ironic point about conspiracies accomplishes the same thing.
In sum: Gandhi chooses to see in every release of someone questioned, in every promotion, in every NON-REPORT, proof of a wide-ranging conspiracy that only the elect like him can see. Look at his sources. Look at what they actually say. Note that everything is simply intimated, then arranged in such a way to deepen the suspicion.
It’s truly frightening. And deranged.
That is all.
maggie sings: (to the tune of the old tootsie roll ad)
the world looks mighty good to me, cause conspiracy is all i see.
whatever it is i think i see, becomes conspiracy to me!
thank you, thank you, i’ll be here all weekend, tell your friends and neighbors! try the veal!
Fini!
?
The thing about these conspiracy theories (and theorists) that really cracks me up is this: Every major news organization wants to be the next Woodward and Bernstein. Dirt is their drug and the higher and more important dirt they can dig, the higher they go. A sitting president? That’s the highest high ever.
If there was anything to these various crackpot conspiracies, we’d be hearing it trumpeted from the rooftops. But instead it’s a few losers and paranoia addicts who connect random dots and find that they ALONE are in possession of the the truth!
If the media really were hiding something, covering up some big secret, that’d imply the entire media – every reporter – was in on it. That doesn’t just strain credibility, it’s not possible. So Gandhi, you can manufacture questions that NEED answers all day long, but it doesn’t mean that your questions are valid, useful, or have any relevance whatsoever. But keep asking them! Since you and Justin and a tiny band of others are the possessors of the ultimate TRUTH, you must not quit or fail! The world depends on you. Wait, what was that? LOOK OUT BEHIND YOU!
Ha.
Picking up where maggie left off:
Conspiracy, conspiracy, run by the jews!
Conspiracy, I think I’m in love with you!
How could the Israelis have any foreknowledge, they don’t even have any foreskin?
… er, did I write that or just think it? Man, that’s embarassing.
Where’s the last dot? Somebody’s gotta connect this story to Jeff Gannon and his gay man-cock! Because it’s all about the hypocrisy!
WARNING: LIGHT JEWISH JOKE IMMINENT
If the Jews controlled the US, you’d think we’d have a sounder fiscal policy. OOOOOOOHHHH SNAP!
And, to be fair, there are worse people than Jews to control the US.
*sigh*
Ok….
So let’s see if I get this. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice may or may not have been shopping for very expensive shoes at the Ferragamo on 5th Avenue while thousands face slow painful deaths in New Orleans.
A lady might have screamed at her, “How dare you shop for shoes while thousands are dying and homeless!†(that’s just an unattributed quote anyway).
And Rice’s Secret Security goons may or may not have forcibly removed the woman.
We can never really know if this is true or not because (a) I read it on Americablog and (b) it’s all probably part of the global anti-black conspiracy.
So there’s no point in discussing it.
Reality does not matter any more. It is as quaint and old-fashioned as the Geneva Convention.
Got it? Am I part of the herd now?
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…..
Let me repeat the only reality that matters in the war on terror:
1) You can’t have a unilateral negotiation
2) You can have a unilateral ass-whuppin’
Okay, so if the media is controlled by a Jewish cabal clearly including the Right-wing mouthpiece Fox News (*Cough* Sorry, some Lefty tripe is too difficult to even joke about without gagging.) then why is it so clear to so many people that the media has a leftist bias. Clearly they cannot ALL have been swayed by the Bush spin machines you allege. I cannot imagine the Jews supporting the Left when it is clear much of their support comes from the Right.
I mean, while it is clear the days of the reporters going out of their way to uncover scoops and stories seeking the truth are long gone, you’d think media like the BBC would figure out the Israeli control of the US and leap on the story with the fervor of a US-hating press machine.
John Stewart is Jewish. Is he a traitor to his people then?
I sense that gandhi’s trying to draw another of his patented parallels that make sense to no one other than the elect, but I’ll be damned if I can figure out what he’s talking about…
I THINK I read gandhi’s article, but I cannot prove it.
I thought this was a thread about illegal immigration? Or Pat Buchasson?
But 9/11 conspiracy theories?
Trolls, anyone?
Gandi, you really need to do your homework if your going to report such fantasies…
Checkpoint Systems (CKP) has a majority of the corporate and government firewall business?
False.
CKP is in the retail merchandise theft prevention business–and doesn’t do firewalls–and is a US-based company HQ’d in New Jersey.
Comverse Infosys? No such company.
Comverse Technology (CNMVT) is a Long Island, NY company. Infosys Technologies (INFY) is a Bangalore, India company.
Amdocs (DOX), is an Isle of Gernsey registered company, with, apparently, three Jewish/Israeli Directors (out of 12 directors), with 97% of its shares held by American registered holders. The two largest are MFS (a mutual fund complex) and SBC Communication (a phone company).
Odigo is owned by Comverse Technology (though it does have a NYC office, like thousands of other businesses–at 11 Broadway–which is more than two blocks from the WTC.
FACTS. It helps to get them right (no matter if they are capitalized, or not).
You should be embarrassed that your mother raised such a dull child. (Though I expect you did well in creative writing, such yarns you spin. Stick to non-fiction, it suits you.)
Cheers.
Forbsey,
The Checkpoint firewall is very well known to anyone in IT.
Here’s the Board of Directors:
Irwin Federman
General Partner – U.S. Venture Partners
Marius Nacht
Vice Chairman and Senior Vice President,
Founder – Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
Ray Rothrock
General Partner – Venrock Associates
David Rubner
Chairman and CEO – Rubner Technology Ventures Ltd.
Dr. Tal Shavit
Organizational Consultant
Gil Shwed
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and
Founder – Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
Jerry Ungerman
Vice Chairman – Check Point Software Technologies Ltd.
All good Italian names.
Comverse Infosys – website, press release.
I’m just not going to bother with the rest of your crap…
Aaah, the soft, sweet embrace of the fantasy world! Far from the maddening voices of everyday reality! Free from the absurd constrictions of time, space and logic, which make normal life so irritatingly complex!
An now y’all have the supreme example of this fantasy world, on record forever more, from none less than your semi-divine leader:
“I don’t think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.”
– G.W. Bush on Good Morning America yesterday.
*Presents gandhi with a tinfoil hat.*
Here, friend. Be on the lookout for those eeeeevil Israelis and their control over America, which, considering their pulling out from Gaza, they sure are GREAT at the controlling the world bit.
gandhi wrote: “I’m just not going to bother with the rest of your crap…”
Good. Don’t let the metaphorical door hit your ass on they way out.
I have just one question:
Kind of pointless quoting a pro-Isreali watchdog like CAMERA
Why do anti-Semites always, always spell it “Isreal”? I mean, is it a secret handshake kind of thing? Do they do it on purpose? Or is it more like the mark of Cain, some minor derangement in the anti-Semitic brain that leaves them unable to spell “Israel”?
Seriously. I mean, I think I’ve seen that spelling twice from people who *weren’t* open anti-Semites, and dozens or hundreds of times from those who were.
Gandi:
Well, you wrote Checkpoint Systems, not Check Point Software. Check out your own posts.
What you’ve proven is your bigotry to distinguish the ethnicity in a name. Congratulations.
Keep it up, vis a vis, your allegations, and you’ll find yourself on the receiving end of a libel suit. But don’t sweat it, you can always use the insanity plea.
Now go home, and don’t come back until you have something more interesting to point out than someone’s ethnicity.