Long version: Yes, yesterday we did indeed have “yet another” (so statesmanlike, President O!) mass shooting, this time inside DC, and inside a government facility. And yes, rifles were involved, Senator Feinstein, purchased legally, apparently. Too, it’s true, Mr Frum, that Second Amendment absolutists believe — unironically, to your evident amusement — that law abiding gun owners are law abiding gun owners taking responsibility for their own protection and the protection of their loved ones, right up until the time they break the law, at which point they are no longer law-abiding citizens, but rather criminals. Just as they believe, also unironically, that more gun control will not stop the slaughter of intentionally disarmed soldiers and civilians inside a gun-free zone run by the very government that immediately calls for more laws to layer onto the laws that already did nothing to stop “yet another mass shooting” — which took place within the District of Columbia, which already boasts some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.
So rather than calling for more governmental action to control guns — which failed miserably in this instance, just as it did at Ft Hood and every other gun-free zone that is pressed upon us — perhaps the real Tweet Fonzie should have sent out was “why weren’t military members or civilian contractors permitted to carry a sidearm, and had they been able to, would the death toll have been minimized — or even better, would the gunman even had tried the attack in the first place?”
Of course, The Fonz wouldn’t Tweet such a thing, and not only because it breaks the 140 character totalitarian restrictions Twitter places on its users; rather, because he is a knee-jerk liberal who has taken a page out of the 80-page gun-control guide and determined to jump into the fray and try using emotional arguments to push an agenda that is designed to empower the government and transfer a free country into a “benevolent” police state, where “safety” trumps liberty.
— Yet, as yesterday showed us, just as it did in Ft Hood and in Sandy Hook and Aurora, mass murderers target groups of people they know cannot defend themselves. That is, they attack the law abiding — who should never be put in the position of having to disarm in order to appease the politically correct aversion to firearms held by northeastern liberals, Hollywood actors (who I’m sure, at one time employed body guards), or phony Canadian-cum-US conservatives who mock the very idea that is essential to liberty: that yes, gun owners are not criminals before they break the law, nor should they be considered so — unless Mr Frum would like to see other preemptive measures taken, eg., the prohibition of alcohol to deter drunk driving, or the prohibition of swimming to avoid drowning fatalities, etc. Like many who pretend to be Republicans and conservatives, Frum is a statist, a would-be totalitarian, a smug megalomaniac who believes his cloistered comfort entitles him to direct the behavior and beliefs of others.
Being belittled by David Frum is very much like being lectured on cleanliness by a hobo, or lectured on economics by this President.
As for the Russian parliamentarian who joked about American Exceptionalism in response to the shootings, the old commie thug has a point — though not the one he believed himself to be making. Rather, it is the very leftism proffered by Marxist-Leninists and erstwhile Stalinists that has led to things like disarmed soldiers and gun-free zones (also known as turkey shoots) — that is, the culture of political correctness and the delegitimization of the individual and our Constitution — that has harmed American exceptionalism, taking away individual liberty and handing it over to an increasingly powerful centralized government who merely demagogues tragedy for its own ends rather than looking at real and honest solutions to gun violence (even as gun violence has decreased dramatically, especially since concealed carry laws have gone into effect).
So by taking a stab at American Exceptionalism, this commie — like the wealthy, connected Marxist progressives who immediately ran to their Twitter feeds and blogs to push for more government-dictated gun control in a place that already deploys the sine qua non of gun control, and following a massacre at a government facility — was really pointing out the lie of leftism, the failure of progressive policy, and the pitfalls of trading safety for liberty.
— Which as I’m sure the commie thug knows, eventually works it way around to the “re-education” of dissidents, or else their imprisonment or, if all else fails, cleansing.
How many people did Bill Ayers, et al., say would have to be put to death to achieve the American Socialist Utopia that he planned to head up?
Millions.
But that’s a small price to pay to get a smart, centralized ruling elite installed into permanent power, with complete control over the economic units it would purport to manage, and the system it would use to manage them and keep them in their places.
— Which is the long lead up to he short version: Mark Levin called these people — aptly — “political ambulance chasers.” Me, I’m in no mood for creativity or euphemism. To me, they’re nothing more than opportunistic, soulless scum. And without their body guards and their ruling class perks, they’d be far less likely to try to infringe upon the freedoms of those they believe it their right to control.
They are arrogant, immoral narcissists. They are cynical ideologues. And the only way they’ll take away our guns is to try confiscation. Which I daresay won’t end well for anyone.
So. “Yet again”: Molon Labe, motherfuckers.
Perfect. Absolutely perfect.
Is it just me, or do other people also have trouble telling the difference between Brooksie and the Frumster?
“At the time the Constitution was written, the weapons in question were muskets.”
You know what? You’re right. And marriage was between one man and one woman. So what’s with gay marriage? No longer will I offer any moral support, oppose any online statements attacking it, speak out for it. They have the same right as anyone—to marry someone of the opposite gender. And given that all gays support raping little boys (just like all gun owners support shooting school kids), I don’t think I can support them. We should do things just the way they were done 220 years ago. That’s the liberal way.
“The Heller Decision was by an activist court. It doesn’t count.”
Indeed. Just like Roe v Wade was an activist decision. It doesn’t count.
“We’re not trying to take your guns away, just have reasonable limits. It’s a compromise.”
And some people want reasonable limits on abortion, like waiting periods, gestational time limits, ultrasound, etc. It’s a reasonable response to an activist court decision, and reasonable restrictions on a right, for public benefit. Don’t come whining about your right to murder babies, and I won’t come to you whining about my right to shoot school kids.
And no one is saying you can’t ride the bus. You just have to sit where people think is reasonable. No one is saying women can’t work. They just have to get paid what is reasonable for the work they do, allowing for the fact they’re going to leave the workplace and raise a family. It’s a compromise.
“Assault weapons are an extreme interpretation.”
True. And not allowing any religious emblems on government premises is an extreme interpretation. As long as they’re privately paid for, what’s it to you? No one is saying you can’t belong to the Christian church of your choice, just not to extreme groups, like atheists or Muslims. It would be paranoid to think anyone was trying to infringe on your legitimate right to be free from state religion, just like I’d be paranoid to think they wanted to take my guns. Quite a few states had official churches well into the 1800s. This is not an infringement on your freedom of religion.
“Given Sandy Hook, you have to make reasonable compromises.”
“We just want licensing and safe storage requirements so the wrong people don’t get guns.”
“Publicizing the information lets people make informed choices about who they live near.”
Accepted. In exchange, gay men should make reasonable compromises over Penn State. They will simply have to accept being registered and kept a safe distance from children. This isn’t a violation of their rights. It’s just common sense. The public has a right to know.
This should apply to protests, too. No reasonable person would object to being identified. They should welcome it—it means they can’t be wrongly maligned. All union members, blacks, gays and feminists should be signed in with ID before a march or gathering, just so we can track the real criminals to keep the rest safe.
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/the-post-in-which-i-piss-off-everybody
Another from the same source:
However, I can argue that if we assume that all guns magically disappeared, and none of those dead were killed in some other fashion, it would still take 1000 years of so-called “gun deaths” to equal the body count the Nazis managed in under a decade.
So against the possibility that the US just might be ruled by some murderous nutjob some time in the next 750 years, I will not only keep all my guns, I will seek more, and I will seek bigger guns that shoot more bullets.
For the children.
http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/item/false-arguments-for-gun-control
Frum is Canadian, Blake. That’s the only thing I can ever remember about him and then I stop reading/listening to him.
So, the latest is that there was no AR15 at all. Did the person planted the one at Sandy Hook miss his connection?
Along with closing with Molon Labe, I would have opened with it as well.
But that’s just me.
leigh, I have trouble telling them apart, because they both seem to have the same insipid oatmeal-for-brains writing style.
A precious paragraph from CNN’s “educational” [indoctrinaltional] entry on why AR-15s are bad.
Horrors, a magazine. We must return to single shot muzzle-loaders ASAP, for the Federal workers and other children’s sake.
Geoffb, maybe we should do some indoctrination of our own and explain “real” machine guns are belt fed, so we’ll compromise and talk about regulating those…
So they have become more common since 2009. What happened in 2009 that changed the nation? Could we possibly change that, and would the wealthy, well protected with armed bodyguards, Senator from WV support immediate “change” back to the previously safer condition?
Now if we could get those magazines to load themselves, then we could do some real damage.
What they all fail to understand(or refuse to consider) is that a determined person, not afraid to die, can inflict a large amount of damage no matter what the weapon.
LBascom, I believe that the distinction should revolve around the idea of “crew served” as opposed to that which can be borne by an individual. The “bear” part of “keep and bear.”
If these guys would pull their heads out of their asses they would find the real cause. All the recent shooters had diagnosed mental issues.
For too long, we’ve believed those in power were working for us. This post and the one above are bookends to the threat of tyranny and slavery. There are always those who will rule if the people let them.
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Not only were they mentally ill, charles w, with the exception of Adam Lanza, they had legally acquired firearms or the non-automatic variety.
Gun-Free Zones appear to be a magnet for trigger happy psychos. If I were in charge, I’d be drawing some connections there.
Greek characters don’t workee on here, Shermlaw. I’m guessing that’s Molon Labe?
I wonder if “come and take it” isn’t a tad too mild a challenge. I am leaning more these days toward “come and see.”
Instead of a seal, what would be opened is the fourth box — the one after soap, ballot and jury.
…but then I’m the guy who named a kitten after Wyatt Earp…
I would like to know how I can, in 2004, carry a handgun in Seattle, fire 3 shots from it at a car with people nearby it that I’m mad at for dissing me, be arrested, charged, have the paperwork disappear before it gets to the DA, and then get a new CCW or still keep my old one plus wiz through my background checks?
Who do I have to know to be able to skate on this stuff and more?
which took place within the District of Columbia, which already boasts some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country.
Yeah, but the guy was from TEXAS, QED.
Frum is a statist, a would-be totalitarian, a smug megalomaniac who believes his cloistered comfort entitles him to direct the behavior and beliefs of others.
A hot-house daisy berating alpine perennials for not blooming in January. It’s just that cheeky.
We must return to single shot muzzle-loaders ASAP,
Yeah, because the Second Amendment is supposed to be limited to flintlocks and muzzle-loaders, exactly like the First is limited to quill pens and hand-cranked printing presses.
(Yeah, I know you were being sarcastic. Me, too. Feel free to use the point when the “muzzle-loader” argument gets advanced, as it always is.)
Journalist’s Guide to Firearms Identification
Seems legit.
LBascom, I believe that the distinction should revolve around the idea of “crew served” as opposed to that which can be borne by an individual. The “bear” part of “keep and bear.”
But if we can’t have crew-served weapons, how on Earth are we supposed to capture prizes with our Letters of Marque? What’s the point of having Congress establish rules for captures on land and water, or having Prize Courts to see that captures are divided appropriately, if we don’t have anything bigger than a pop gun with which to capture our lawful prizes?
I maintain that I should be able to keep cannons and mortars if I like, and the only thing I should need to worry about is infringing on my local noise ordinances.
Squid, you win, I accept your argument.
“I would like to know how I can, in 2004, carry a handgun in Seattle, fire 3 shots from it at a car with people nearby it that I’m mad at for dissing me, be arrested, charged, have the paperwork disappear before it gets to the DA, and then get a new CCW or still keep my old one plus wiz through my background checks?”
Umm, let me check the calendar…
YES!, yes it is tin foil Tuesday!
Uh-hum, there are those who have a theory about events like these, purposely orchestrated to misdirect attention, among other goals.
Me? I’m not real hasty in dismissing such conjecture.
Squid, I could go along with your reasoning, but only if we can go back to public executions swift and true, by firing squad or hanging, in the event of murder and/or treason.
Deal?
LBascom, I’ll only agree with your suggestion if tar, feathers and rails becomes standard punishment for overbearing government officials.
Don’t forget the stocks too Blake. And a barrel of rotting vegetables for your throwing pleasure.
California One Signature Away from Statewide Ban on Lead Ammo
I could have sworn I used to use MK ULTRA to brush my teeth.
(Frighteningly my Android phone knows exactly how to capitalize MK ULTRA when I speak it.)
I am still against this but, to clarify, the ban is on lead ammo for hunting.
bgbear, that means lead ammo is still ok for fighting tyranny?
Good to know.
many tyrants have died from lead poisoning
the ban is on lead ammo for hunting.
Well, since that’s the only reason we could possibly need a weapon, they will just limit it entirely. Not a ban, oh, no, that might be unconstitutional, but they can limit it down to zero. For the compromises. And they won’t believe me when I say “I really swearsies I will only use the lead ammo for fighting off foreign invaders.”
One last thing (not for nothing) we need to ban the lead, because if we shoot it, it will hit the ground, and so we need to keep all the lead out of the ground, because if we use it, we might have to dig… some… more… up? Is this like fire not melting steel?
I have no clue how the enforcement would work since am not a hunter and do not know how it is done in the counties that already have a lead for hunting ban. However, I am sure the legislature in general do not know either so, I am agin it.
I have no clue how the enforcement would work since am not a hunter
how could you enforce it if the hunting is done on private land?
There is no such thing as private land.
yea be right this here be proggtardia
you
yeaI don’t understand the purpose of this ban. Is it to keep the animals from dying of lead poisoning?
That’s kind of the point of hunting, isn’t it?
It’s bullshit. The amount of lead resulting from hunting is barely measurable.
The point is to stop the bitter clingers from engaging in their strange rituals.
That’s what I figured.
I guess we’re not supposed to use lead sinkers to fish anymore, either? Too bad.
the lead thing is another scam. they point to blood levels of inner city blacks living in places that were formerly occupied by jews, hunkies, germans, et al as to why blacks are under performing. they never study black culture as a reason. the southern black culture is really 17th century scots irish culture per tom sowell. so in effect the “black prole culture” are “acting white”.
The lead thing is bullshit, fershur. There hasn’t been lead in paint for decades and the CDC still harps on it like little black kids everywhere are eating a bowl of paint chips for breakfast.
source tom sowell “black rednecks white liberals”
Militarization Of Universities: Ohio State Buys Mine-Resistant, Armored-Plated Military Vehicle
Sieg Heil!
The problem with Kent State: not enough hippies got killed.
Problem solved. Never again!
So this is comforting. The Navy Yard killer was just down the road a piece last month, working on a system that I designed and built a decent chunk of. Oh, and he brought the cray cray.
the ohio state thing probes for tin foil
Doesn’t it seem odd the FBI is seeking information from the public about the shooter?
I would have thought they know everything about a navy guy with a secret clearance…
tin foil news
Joe Biden’s Niece Arrested For Reportedly Hitting an NYPD Cop
Re: Pablo above.
It is comforting to know that our wonderful Federal government is being so very, very selective in their hiring. They are searching out specific qualities and qualifications that I’d not thought of looking for. This goes far to explain the truly amazing results per dollar spent of this administration. HR by Catbert turned up to 11.
Sadly, there are always those who will seek to be ruled. And they outnumber those looking to rule.
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