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The Truth [Darleen Click] UPDATED

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Visited relatives yesterday and one is a flaming Lib. Needless to say, we avoided the Zimmerman case because even a passing mention brought her to literally screaming SHUT UP! at anyone that defended the verdict.

She had CNN coverage of the “Martin Protests” running muted in the background. When I pointed out that the close ups of the professionally printed signs included the tag line “worldworkers.org” she absolutely refused to believe her own eyes. This was just grassroots, righteous indignation to a verdict only RAAAACISM could have produced with RAAAACISTS protecting RAAAACISTS.

It was an awkward visit.
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UPDATE:

thanks Pablo

118 Replies to “The Truth [Darleen Click] UPDATED”

  1. Pablo says:

    More truth: A Message to Trayvon Martin Sympathizers

    If we really wanted to ensure Trayvon Martin’s killing was not in vain, we’d stop perpetuating negative images that are now synonymous with black men in America. We’d stop rapping about selling drugs and killing niggas. The next time we saw a man beating a woman, we’d call for help or break it up, but one thing we would not do is stand by with our cellphones out — yelling WORLDSTAR! Instead of rewarding kids for memorization, we’d reward them for independent and critical thinking.

    We’d spend less time subconsciously repeating lyrics about death and murder and more time understanding why we are so willing to twerk to songs that bemean women and boast of having things we cannot afford. We’d set examples of self-love for our youth by honoring our own hair, skin and eye color. We’d stop spending money on designer gear that we should be spending on our physical and psychological health. We’d seek information outside the corporate owned-media that manipulates us. We’d stop letting television babysit our kids and we’d quit regurgitating pundits we haven’t come up with on our own.

    So if you don’t want to be stereotyped, don’t be the stereotype. That’s just crazy enough to work.

  2. Pablo says:

    Needless to say, we avoided the Zimmerman case because even a passing mention brought her to literally screaming SHUT UP! at anyone that defended the verdict.

    I’m led to believe that some family I’m going to run into soon is of that mind, and I don’t intend to argue the point. I’ll just let Whittle explain it: The Lynching

  3. sdferr says:

    Mr. Zimmerman, though certainly suffering in horror and bewilderment at the treatment he receives from his former political affiliates and comperes perhaps stands best situated to learn what is what as regards the rule of the mob. That learning doesn’t necessarily translate to an ability to articulate what he learns, but still, it will be interesting to hear him speak when he finally finds his own words.

  4. sdferr says:

    From Obazm’s First Inaugural Address:

    We remain a young nation, but in the words of Scripture, the time has come to set aside childish things.

    Little did his audience realize that Obazm had in mind The Golden Rule itself as a childish thing to set aside!

  5. rrpjr says:

    >>”Visited relatives yesterday and one is a flaming Lib…”

    This describes my entire family experience. All Progressives. All super-educated. All completely unable to accept or understand ANYTHING not consecrated in or by the NY Times. Totally despairing if one cares about having enriching relationships with one’s family. But I’ve given up. I absolutely refuse to talk politics or culture anymore. After long and bitter experience I’ve realized the limitations imposed by a ban (preserving the possibility of at least some relationship) are preferable to the agony, futility and hazards of engagement.

  6. Danger says:

    “Little did his audience realize that Obazm had in mind The Golden Rule itself as a childish thing to set aside! ”

    A 24K comment.

    Keep Firing!

  7. Mr. Saturn says:

    Speaking of Obama’s hypothetical race reversal scenario:

    http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

  8. SteveG says:

    Jeff,

    Are you going to install the Twitchy widget on your site?
    I heard they pay… ummm… unlike me since the economy tanked and then flatlined.

    Thanks for giving me a place to visit and read.

  9. Shermlaw says:

    I would appear that your relative is guilty of the sort of intellectual laziness that affects too many people. They simply wait to be told what to think from the worthies within the group with which they associate. After that, no further research or thought is needed. Yet, those of us “Bible Thumpers,” with a death grip on our religion and guns are the ones who are “easily led.” I’m shocked that you didn’t just laugh out loud, but then, that would have been rude, another concept which the “tell me what to think” progs don’t understand very well.

  10. leigh says:

    Sounds like the wife of one of my brothers. We had a disagreement about the Wan and she proceeded to label me 1)a Republican (wrong), 2) fat (wrong), 3) stupid (wrong), 4) Bible-thumper (also wrong).

    How do you have a conversation with someone like that? Answer: You don’t.

  11. Gayle says:

    Visited relatives yesterday and one is a flaming Lib. Needless to say, we avoided the Zimmerman case because even a passing mention brought her to literally screaming SHUT UP! at anyone that defended the verdict.

    Heh. Sounds like most of my siblings.

    God I dread Thanksgiving.

  12. sdferr says:

    There’s a possible question whether John Hinderaker has been taken in by a magnificent spoof, as believing it genuine — — — or else another possibility looms: namely, that a call will soon be made to Boycott The Air You Breathe, on the grounds that George Zimmerman breathes it too.

  13. Darleen says:

    How do you have a conversation with someone like that? Answer: You don’t.

    Yep. It was her home and she ranted that anyone who wanted to defend Zimmerman could just LEAVE!!1!1! Elevensies!!

    Facts? Proggies need no stinkin’ facts!

    She whirled on me (I had just come into the room) and said “How would you have liked for YOUR son of 16 years and 8 months to be murdered by a racist vigilante when he wasn’t doing anything wrong?”

    I merely said, “Since I work for a DA office and actually paid attention to the evidence in the case, I disagree with you and refuse to comment any further.”

    She calmed down enough we all were able to continue on to other non-political subjects and make it through the day. But it was like walking on egg shells.

  14. sdferr says:

    “How would you have liked for YOUR son of 16 years and 8 months to be murdered by a racist vigilante when he wasn’t doing anything wrong?”

    Good on ya for not returning the question “How does it feel to be part of a racist lynch-mob intent on harming an innocent man for the sake of an delusional self-regard?”

  15. palaeomerus says:

    I don’t give a fuck what random shit libs thinks is racist anymore. Sometimes I don’t give a fuck rather loudly and kind of in their faces. Seems like most of them aren’t too used to being just cut off and dismissed as just another dimwitted Slate-fed squawking parrot by some naughty little troll who they think needs a good lib-preachin’-to.

  16. leigh says:

    Sometimes you just have to tell people that obviously you disagree and how about those Pirates, eh?

  17. Pablo says:

    I don’t give a fuck what random shit libs thinks is racist anymore.

    Yup. I hear racist and think “Some progg is butthurt again.” It’s meaningless now.

  18. SBP says:

    I think a big part of it is that it was just so perfect for The Narrative. White guy (wrong) guns down cute little innocent black kid (wrong) using the Stand Your Ground law as a defense (wrong).

    It was so perfect they’re desperate to save it, even if it means self-delusion.

    The most recent AP story I saw spent six paragraphs blathering about SYG, before finally admitting in the seventh that Zimmerman didn’t actually use that defense, only to wander off into “emanations of the penumbra” territory.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/outcry-stand-ground-law-repeals-19727959

    Oh, and dear John McCain? He’s on board, of course.

    http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/21/19597091-mccain-joins-obama-in-calling-for-review-of-stand-your-ground-laws

    I regret voting for that dimwit nearly every single day, and am very pleased that I didn’t make the same mistake with Romney.

  19. leigh says:

    You and me both, Spies. We dodged a bullet by the Wan getting elected.

  20. palaeomerus says:

    I’m half afraid that the whole Martin Zimmerman story (and its many versions) was as an indicator dye, a sort of market research project on narrative filtering/packaging to see who who swallows what how easily so adjustments can be made to future narratives for greater compatibility with the public’s lazy side. And it also might have served as a dry run for media agitators on both sides of the story to get them warmed up for the big midterm showdown in 2014.

    Probably just paranoia on my part though.

  21. There are 5 A’s in RAAAAACISM, Darleen. You used 4.

    /Spelling Nazi

  22. 11B40 says:

    Greetings:

    Strange Fruit in Northern Trees. Smells like Progressive spirit to me.

  23. palaeomerus says:

    When an emanation loves a penumbra very much they get together and send a coded message or C.J .Roberts who opens a gateway to their becoming the legal foundation for a new law provided they can be reconstructed as a tax. And that gateway is the capriciously gaping, arbitrarily fog spewing mental asshole that he pulls his one-atom-thick nano-gossamer legal reasoning from.

    Then the penumbra and emanation fuse into a vast toothy serpentine bureaucracy that bursts from the bleeding torso of the constitution, voraciously consumes our resources which it calls contributions, vomits a searing tempest of cleansing flames on the jackal savaged remains of our liberties, and then spits safety-shackles(TM) onto our ankles for our own collective good (as revolutionarily defined by the current needs of the times as a defined by the failed predictions of a cruddy old German nut-job who wrote some shit during the American Civil War which turned into the greatest by far source of horror and dread in the 20th century. ). Thus we move forward.

  24. palaeomerus says:

    Will detroit fit under the bus?

  25. LBascom says:

    I regret voting for that dimwit nearly every single day, and am very pleased that I didn’t make the same mistake with Romney.

    I regret that dimwit was the alternative to Obama, same as Romney, but I’m very displeased they lost and America has been fundamentally transformed. We still had a chance before Obama, e vanishingly slim one by the time Romney made the ticket, but it’s over now.

    I know Mark Levin thinks we still have a chance, by faith in the ideas outlined in his new book, and I’m willing to try, but I really think Obamacare was the end, and the reelection of Obama the epitaph.

  26. SBP says:

    “but I’m very displeased they lost”

    Given that McCain has backed essentially every action that Obama has taken, what difference would it have made?

  27. LBascom says:

    We wouldn’t have Obamacare.

  28. geoffb says:

    I think a big part of it is that it was just so perfect for The Narrative. White guy (wrong) guns down cute little innocent black kid (wrong) using the Stand Your Ground law as a defense (wrong).

    They misunderstand/refuse to understand SYG just as much as they do every bit of evidence in this whole case. In both they have made up a straw-man to attack and are convinced that their manufactured thing is reality and reality is just made up by us.

    I’ve pointed out many times that the manufacturing was done back in the first week of March 2012 by the Crump & Parker law firm and their PR firm and media buddies especially Reuters, AP, and CBS.

    Since we also now know that the DOJ’s CRS was all in also in early March, they and Sharpton carried the ball from then on, but the narrative was put together before they got in by the lawyers and the media. And it was done to be able to file and collect money from settlements.

    The DOJ-CRS had other motives which were all about the 2012 elections and the manufactured reality already in play worked for them too.

  29. newrouter says:

    “We wouldn’t have Obamacare.”

    with pelosi/reid wishful thinking methinks

  30. Spiny Norman says:

    paleo,

    I’m half afraid that the whole Martin Zimmerman story (and its many versions) was as an indicator dye, a sort of market research project on narrative filtering/packaging to see who who swallows what how easily…

    The way Obysmal the Shameless, his obsequeous courtiers, and his palace guard media flacks keep throwing fuel on this fire every time it looks to be dying down would seem to prove the truth of your theory.

  31. BigBangHunter says:

    – For all you White priviledge doubting Thomases out there, well here you go. Solid proof the Wan had his share of aparthied experiences and suffered him some Black mans torments. (In between facualty lounge bong-ins and bag man deliveries).

    – BTW, anyone with an ounce of ability to think clearly anymore, outside the Progressive box that is, should have absolutely no further questions on “How in the world did the German population ever fall for Hitlers bullshit”. You are seeing it for yourselves, close-up and personal. An entire set of generations totally transfixed and mind numbed to the narrative. A massive form of psychological therupy, because its really scary and it hurts to think. So gimme a free phone or something, and I can relax and not worry. Part of it is because its mans nature to take the easy way out, part of it is because the “greatest generation” spoiled the crap out of their kids.

    – And we all know how well the German thing worked out.

  32. Neo says:

    In a possible plea for/against Double Jeopardy for Zimmerman in the future, it will be interesting to see how the feds get around the fact that it was through the efforts of the DOJ that there was a special prosecutor to have any trial of George Zimmerman. Going for another prosecution of Zimmerman may be too much for the Appeals Courts to shallow.

  33. leigh says:

    Meh, BBH. Valerie Jarrett mistakes the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army for a waiter. In 2011. And he is Italian.

    Link.

  34. BigBangHunter says:

    – The point is Leigh, they’re so fucking desperate to keep it going, and keep the focus OFF all the criminal acts under Bumblefucks watch, they’ll use anything they can find.

    “Kids are going to do stupid things. They shouldn’t die from it.”

    – Wait I think I know this one: “Lifes a bitch and then you die”. There’s a number of our electorate that just never get past the disillusionments of teen-hood it seems.

  35. Drumwaster says:

    and she proceeded to label me 1)a Republican (wrong), 2) fat (wrong), 3) stupid (wrong), 4) Bible-thumper (also wrong).

    Because being accused of ANY of those four things means your opinion is not only invalid, but outright evil, therefore worthy of summary dismissal, up to and including actual physical violence if you persist in attempting to make the argument.

    Shut up, that’s why.

  36. leigh says:

    Oh, I get what you’re saying, BBH. I agree for the most part. I’ve gotten to the point that I don’t give a shit about a population that refuses to better itself and is causing the rest of us to live in fear. I’m talking about a general, pervasive low-grade fear. The one that makes you lock your car in your own driveway and not leave anything in plain view on the seats that has potential resale value. “Normal” everyday pain in the ass fears and distrust.

    Personally, I think it is incumbent on those who feel like the man is keeping them down to go the extra mile and clean up their acts. It’s not my fault that every time I let my guard down (and my gates unlocked), they prove me right.

    I’m starting to sound like my dad in my getting older age. Sheesh.

  37. BigBangHunter says:

    – Particularly apropos of these genarations disdain for anything decent, or sensible . Now they find a way to crump even the most basic of American ideals, pitting the Super hero role models at each others throats because they’ll do anything for a fucking buck, and it sends tingles up the legs of the Progressive mindless sheeples.

    – Another Commywood POS I won’t be attending.

  38. BigBangHunter says:

    I’m starting to sound like my dad in my getting older age. Sheesh.

    – The portion of the population that never bought the BS or drank the koolaide or sold out their souls for a freaking cellphone or handout whatever are running out of patience, and at some point it will break bad for the lost generations.

    – But they’re not smart enough to stop. they never are, and they never do until its too late, and then after the smoke clears there will be another 100 years of wailing and moaning and groaning about “how unfair” life is.

    – On and on it goes.

  39. leigh says:

    . . . .pitting the Super hero role models at each other . . .

    But wait! There is talk of gay Spiderman in the next movie.

    I can’t stand it.

  40. geoffb says:

    Now they find a way to crump even the most basic of American ideals,

    Perfect except for the missing capital “C”.

  41. LBascom says:

    wishful thinking methinks

    Perhaps. Here’s some more; The economy would have had a real recovery by the end of McCains first term[1], the middle east wouldn’t be the disaster it is[2], and we would have had immigration reform already that included better real border security and no amnesty[3].

    Bonus, no bullshit gun control agenda.

    1: McCain had much better ideas regarding healthcare I think, and without obamacare, real employment would have recovered years ago. Plus there wouldn’t have been all the talk of raising taxes, and Keystone would be working already. The original massive bailout woulda still happened, but trillion dollar deficits wouldn’t be happening still and forever as they are now.

    2:McCain isn’t against foreign adventurism I don’t think, but I do believe he would have supported our long time allies in the middle east, been much more friendly to Israel, left an airtforce base in Iraq, taken a harder line on Iran, and generally listened to the generals and American interests much closer when it came to military use.

    3;I’m going out on a limb more on this one, but I assert at least McCain would have been more beholden to his voters, and the whole debate would have been on different terms.

    Bonus, the fucking media would have been on our side when it comes to limited government power. I don’t hate that, what I hate is when the love government power when a progg has it.

    2:

  42. LBascom says:

    Add y, subtract 2:…

  43. leigh says:

    McCain is about as beholden to the duties of office as Obama. I have no doubt he would have been just as bad and quite possibly worse than Obama.

  44. LBascom says:

    Bonus bonus, President Palin 2016!

  45. Caecus Caesar says:

    an indicator dye

  46. BigBangHunter says:

    – Yes, as much as its enjoyable to point out the many failings of the community organizer, who was elevated to the level of a paper mache’ saint by the ankle-licking media, the truth is his jug-earedness has done practicaly nothing he said he would or that the Left thought he would, other than sort of headlining ObamaCare (carefully waiting til after it passed the Congress) and the whole entitlements thing, hes been a hawk supremo on the wars/drones, and really hasn’t done much else outside of give-aways for vote pandering. Recall he was very late to the gaye marriage thing also, again waiting to see if it had legs.

    – He’s sort of a weaker version of Carter, and just as much of a disaster on foreign policy as Carter ever was, although Jimmah can lay claim to having started the whole terror movement in Iran.

  47. Caecus Caesar says:

    Whoah… spleef.

    “an indicator dye”

    Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow

  48. leigh says:

    BBH, I want to see him pitch a fit on national television when Ocare finally unravels.

    It’ll be epic!

  49. LBascom says:

    He managed to transform America, while playing golf twice a week and taking more vacations than a Frenchman.

    Rush hoped he would fail. Unfortunately, he didn’t. You can pretend he did if it makes you feel better though.

  50. leigh says:

    For all the wish-casting, there is no proof that McCain would have done anything differently. He’s a weak sister and always has been. I wish he’d change teams and be honest for once in his miserable life.

    As for Sarah Palin, I know the angels sing when her very name is mentioned, but she is about as experienced in governance as Jughead. Ideas don’t always translate into doable actions.

  51. newrouter says:

    “but she is about as experienced in governance as Jughead ”

    please she was a mayor & a governor. baracky – senator “present”.

  52. Spiny Norman says:

    leigh,

    For all the wish-casting, there is no proof that McCain would have done anything differently.

    Well, one thing that would have been different: we absolutely would have had amnesty by now, with promises of border security no different from the 1986 promises.

  53. Spiny Norman says:

    HTML Fail. Sorry.

  54. leigh says:

    Oh, definitely Spiny. McCain would accomplish his cursed goals, whereas Oblabla just talks them to death and plays golf.

  55. leigh says:

    Newrouter, there are 600,000 people in Alaska. She was governor for less than three years, most of the last one spent campaigning. Wasilla is tiny, as tiny as my town, and she spent a huge amount of public monies building a sports center that many townsfolk did not want.

    If we want to talk tough broads who talk the talk and walk the walk, Michele with one L is your gal. Tax attorney, congresscritter, TEA Party fave and tireless mom of dozens of kids.

  56. LBascom says:

    Well, I guess the concensus is Jeff is wrong about the whole “losing more slowly” thing. Voting R means losing faster!

    Biden 2016!

  57. LBascom says:

    Biden! 47 years government ecperiance!

  58. Darleen says:

    Oh good god, our Miss Brooks has gone from swooning over Obama’s pant creases to making odes to Obama’s “I am Trayvon” speech as symphony

    I thought it was a symphony of indignation, professionalism, executive responsibility, personal feeling. It had all these different things woven together, I thought beautifully. But it’s important to remember, race is how he thinks.

  59. newrouter says:

    she also ran a business. baracky he be in peeps business.

  60. LBascom says:

    40 million people in California. Obviously, Jerry Brown would make a damn fine President.

  61. newrouter says:

    “I thought it was a symphony of indignation, professionalism, executive responsibility, personal feeling. ”

    that’s so gay

  62. LBascom says:

    Also, three terms as governor and counting. Biden/ Brown, 2016!

  63. SBP says:

    “We wouldn’t have Obamacare.”

    Yes, we would. It’d just be called “Pelosicare”.

    You think McCain wouldn’t have signed it just to be all “bipartisan” and shit?

  64. LBascom says:

    No, no, you’ve convinced me. I was stupid for voting Republican. Best to not vote.

  65. LBascom says:

    I mean, Reagan granted amnesty.

    How stupid was I, voting for that dolt?

  66. LBascom says:

    Bush H raised taxes, Bush jr, was a total idiot.

    I shoulda just stayed home all those years.

  67. SBP says:

    Who said I didn’t vote?

  68. LBascom says:

    Well, statistically speaking, if you didn’t vote R or D you may as well have stayed home, since only an R or D have won in the last 165 years.

    The sentiment was noble though, I’m sure.

  69. I see Weekend Lee is back.

    McCain is a media whore, especially since he got caught with his hand in the Keating cookie jar.

    If the BSM decided it wanted another swing at the health care piñata he would have given it to them. And then he would have gone along with amnesty and gun control and whatever else they demanded of him.

  70. newrouter says:

    and don’t forget mccainfeingold/citizens united

  71. LBascom says:

    I see the personal becomes important to those without a honest argument.

  72. LBascom says:

    “and don’t forget mccainfeingold/citizens united”

    I’m not saying McCain was my first choice, or even my tenth choice, but he was the only other realistic choice, and to say he would have been worse than Obama is seriously delusional IMO.

    There McGehee, I’ve said too much, obviously, so I’ll leave the thread to you and your posse. Set the world straight.

  73. palaeomerus says:

    Fuck R. They had a chance for that R to mean something I would vote for. They had several. They did things the happyfeet way. Now R just means what D used to. So fuck R.

    If I see someone with an R next to their name and like what they stand for then I’ll vote for them. If I don’t like what they stand for then get used to them doing for themselves because the party is all out of my faith, support, and confidence. And they did everything they could to get that way too.

  74. SBP says:

    “Well, statistically speaking, if you didn’t vote R or D you may as well have stayed home”

    If the choice is Obama or McCain, you might as well stay home, too. I’m not going to vote for another McCain. Ever.

  75. leigh says:

    The Ds and Rs are dead to me.

  76. Caecus Caesar says:

    La symphonie, c’est moi.

  77. The Monster says:

    “Well, statistically speaking, if you didn’t vote R or D you may as well have stayed home”

    Mathematically speaking, only a vote for one of the top two vote-getters affects the margin of victory. Voting for anyone else is thus nearly indistinguishable from not voting at all. The only difference is that any time a minor party starts to get substantial votes, it tells the majors how to tweak their message next time.

    The only cure for this problem is to do away with “first-past-the-post” plurality-takes-all voting. If it were possible for minor-party legislators to truly reflect the electorate’s support for their positions, classical liberals form majority coalitions with “conservatives” on fiscal issues and with “liberals” on personal-liberty issues*.

    Instead, we’re forced into the false choice of the party that claims it will defend our property and attack our proclivities, or vice versa.


    *to the extent that they still actually believe in personal liberty, rather than in using the weight of the state to coerce behavior

  78. The Monster says:

    Oh, and that cartoon is raaaaacist, because lynching only ever happens to blacks … and shut up.

  79. Pablo says:

    The only cure for this problem is to do away with “first-past-the-post” plurality-takes-all voting.

    Huh. I was thinking that the cure was to burn DC down and salt the earth.

  80. leigh says:

    Of late, it’s become a regular Hobson’s Choice, Monster.

  81. BT says:

    I don’t understand why the population of a state corresponds to the difficulty of governing that state. It isn’t like Jerry Brown takes constituent phone calls.

  82. leigh says:

    It’s the sets of problems presented by the number of population, BT. Large populations will inherently have more and different problems and variables than those that are smaller, be the population one of citizens or data sets.

  83. Drumwaster says:

    Something a lot of people seem to forget is the 50/50 split of the Senate after the Bush-Gore squeaker. There was a 50-50 tie, which (between the Jan 3rd opening of Congress and the Jan 20th presidential inauguration) was broken in the tie by VP Gore, and afterwards by VP Cheney, and there was a power-sharing agreement between the parties.

    Meanwhile, the Dems went looking for weak sisters among the 50 GOP Senators, and their prime candidate was “Maverick” McCain, hoping to capitalize on the hard feelings caused by how Bush had beaten him in some primaries. They ended up settling on Jim Jeffords of Vermont, who switched from Republican to Independent (caucusing with the Democrats), which meant a 51-49 advantage which the Dems used for every advantage that could be squeaked, including rejecting the shared chairmanships of all committees in favor of Dems holding the chair, and a one-member advantage in every committee.

    It was in an attempt to punish Bush that McCain became such a maverick. So let’s make him President!

  84. leigh says:

    McCain is so far off the reservation he called Obama’s Ode to Trayvon speech “very impressive”.

  85. Ernst Schreiber says:

    A counterfactual is only as good as the clear alternatives that were othewise available. e.g., with health care reform, you can argue that it would have been better because it wouldn’t have been as expansive as the Democrats’ go for broke —and the kitchen sink too! plan. You could also argue that it would have been worse because it would have been a bi-partisan piece of shit with the David Frum no labels seal of approval.

    On the economy, the truth is nobody since Harding and Coolidge has had the guts to keep their hands off and do nothing, so we’d probably be about where we are only we’d have got there a little sooner –meanwhile instead of funemployment, we’d have another jobless recovery.

  86. BT says:

    It’s the sets of problems presented by the number of population, BT. Large populations will inherently have more and different problems and variables than those that are smaller, be the population one of citizens or data sets.

    My understanding is that department heads take care of that kind of stuff.

  87. Merovign says:

    Re: family libs

    It’s been the left’s tactic (among other but a major one) to control public (and private) discussion by making it unbearable for you to express dissent.

    It works. It’s horrifying, especially in its consequences, but it works. Bullying, screaming, threats, assault.

    It works.

    Because we let it.

  88. newrouter says:

    THE MANAGER of a fruit-and-vegetable shop places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: “Workers of the world, unite!” Why does he do it? What is he trying to communicate to the world? Is he genuinely enthusiastic about the idea of unity among the workers of the world? Is his enthusiasm so great that he feels an irrepressible impulse to acquaint the public with his ideals? Has he really given more than a moment’s thought to how such a unification might occur and what it would mean?

    I think it can safely be assumed that the overwhelming majority of shopkeepers never think about the slogans they put in their windows, nor do they use them to express their real opinions. That poster was delivered to our greengrocer from the enterprise headquarters along with the onions and carrots. He put them all into the window simply because it has been done that way for years, because everyone does it, and because that is the way it has to be. If he were to refuse, there could be trouble. He could be reproached for not having the proper decoration in his window; someone might even accuse him of disloyalty. He does it because these things must be done if one is to get along in life. It is one of the thousands of details that guarantee him a relatively tranquil life “in harmony with society,” as they say.

    Obviously the greengrocer is indifferent to the semantic content of the slogan on exhibit; he does not put the slogan in his window from any personal desire to acquaint the public with the ideal it expresses. This, of course, does not mean that his action has no motive or significance at all, or that the slogan communicates nothing to anyone. The slogan is really a sign, and as such it contains a subliminal but very definite message. Verbally, it might be expressed this way: “I, the greengrocer XY, live here and I know what I must do. I behave in the manner expected of me. I can be depended upon and am beyond reproach. I am obedient and therefore I have the right to be left in peace.” This message, of course, has an addressee: it is directed above, to the greengrocer’s superior, and at the same time it is a shield that protects the greengrocer from potential informers. The slogan’s real meaning, therefore, is rooted firmly in the greengrocer’s existence. It reflects his vital interests. But what are those vital interests?

    Let us take note: if the greengrocer had been instructed to display the slogan “I am afraid and therefore unquestioningly obedient,” he would not be nearly as indifferent to its semantics, even though the statement would reflect the truth. The greengrocer would be embarrassed and ashamed to put such an unequivocal statement of his own degradation in the shop window, and quite naturally so, for he is a human being and thus has a sense of his own dignity. To overcome this complication, his expression of loyalty must take the form of a sign which, at least on its textual surface, indicates a level of disinterested conviction. It must allow the greengrocer to say, “What’s wrong with the workers of the world uniting?” Thus the sign helps the greengrocer to conceal from himself the low foundations of his obedience, at the same time concealing the low foundations of power. It hides them behind the facade of something high. And that something is ideology.

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  89. newrouter says:

    “THE MANAGER of a fruit-and-vegetable shop places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: <strike“Workers of the world, unite!” I am Trayvon “

  90. newrouter says:

    “THE MANAGER of a fruit-and-vegetable shop places in his window, among the onions and carrots, the slogan: “Workers of the world, unite!” I am Trayvon!”.

  91. newrouter says:

    it worked:)

  92. leigh says:

    My understanding is that department heads take care of that kind of stuff.

    Probably. That makes the governor’s job largely symbolic, landing Sarah right back in the square next to Obama in expertise. I don’t know the constitution of the state of Alaska, but what are the governor’s enumerated powers?

  93. newrouter says:

    “How would you have liked for YOUR son of 16 years and 8 months to be murdered by a racist vigilante when he wasn’t doing anything wrong?”

    you – why was st. trayvon in sanford that night when he lived 200 miles away?

  94. newrouter says:

    ” landing Sarah right back in the square next to Obama in expertise. ”

    really being a business women, city council person, a mayor and a governor is just like being “state/ fed senator present”?

  95. Ernst Schreiber says:

    When was the last time we had a President who wasn’t a pedigreed, Ivy-League credentialed “expert” of some sort or another?

    The good old days is when.

  96. newrouter says:

    i liked the eureka college grad

  97. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Yeah, me too.

    But let’s be honest, Reagan had less experience when he made his run for th governor’s office than Palin did when she made her’s.

  98. cranky-d says:

    Part of the problem is all of the politicians are too experienced. It’s been their life’s work, and we suffer for it.

    What good is experience if they screw us over? I would rather have someone of sound character with solid principles.

  99. RichardCranium says:

    If you want to rag on Palin, then the best way to do that is to point out that she accepted McCain’s offer to run as his VP versus telling the old crap weasel to pound sand up his ass.

  100. Slartibartfast says:

    Ever notice how the same crowd that isn’t bashful about saying things like “tell men not to rape women” wouldn’t dream of saying “tell black men not to commit kill”?

    Not that either one is logically supportable, but at least they’re mutually consistent.

  101. Slartibartfast says:

    s/commit/

  102. Slartibartfast says:

    I heard on the news that President Obama is now shifting his emphasis from fucking up the Zimmerman trial to fucking up the economy. We just can’t win.

  103. palaeomerus says:

    “Ever notice how the same crowd that isn’t bashful about saying things like “tell men not to rape women” – ”

    That’s for little men. Not shining giants like Roman Polanski or Bill Clinton.

  104. leigh says:

    Reagan was past president of the Screen Actors Guild.

    My aim isn’t to rag on Palin, Richard Cranium. I was just asking what is so presidential about her to the exclusion of others and what makes otherwise rational people lose their shit when anyone asks any questions. I have nothing against her, but I don’t want her in the WH either. But then, I don’t want any women in the office of president. We have one there now. That ought to be example enough.

  105. palaeomerus says:

    Geraldo rivera Tweeted and deleted a “selfie” that is up on the Blaze right now. Yeah, just like an attention seeking teen aged girl. No, he didn’t do the duck face.

    He seems to be turning into Stan Lee.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/21/internet-stunned-geraldo-rivera-tweets-semi-nude-photo-of-himself-warning-you-will-not-be-able-to-unsee-this/

  106. leigh says:

    Geraldo is the same age as my husband. My husband knows better than to do stupid shit like that.

  107. palaeomerus says:

    Stan Lee wears shirts and pants in his photos though. I wonder if this is some stupid attempt to build solidarity with wanna-be-mayor Weiner?

  108. serr8d says:

    Geraldo’s ‘selfie’ destroys glass. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPsq8IBCYAAxpaj.jpg:large

  109. palaeomerus says:

    My monitor does have some cracks in it now.

  110. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I figure heading up the Screen Actor’s Guild is somewhere around “head of the schoolboard” and/or “mayor of Wasilla” on the universal list of resume enhancers.

    I understand you’re not ragging on Palin. On the other hand, I think, as I suspect Richard Cranium and cranky-D do as well, that you’re relying overly much on wrong or —at least— incomplete criteria.

    e.g., I don’t want another Richard Nixon or G.H.W. Bush capable of taming the bureaucracy because he’s the meanest, insidery-est sonofabitch in the vale of tears and failure that is Leviathan. I want somebody who’ll plow it up and burn it out. It’s going to take a Reagan like popular connection to the populace for that to happen.

    Palin’s come closest to generating that kind of enthusiasm.

    n.b. I’m not saying Palin is Reagan or even like Reagan, just closest to being like Reagan. Just to be clear.

  111. Oy Vey Maria says:

    Darleen, can you say anything about the 11 protesters arrested in San Bernadino on Friday? They were throwing stuff and assaulted a horse. I’d like to know if they were already criminals and have records. I read about it in the Press-Enterprise.
    We had a protest in Riverside on Saturday, too. I was downtown shopping at Clark’s, which is only a block away from the courthouse, but I never saw any fuss going on. Good thing, because we don’t have any horses for them to molest.
    We had Sharpton leading protesters onto the freeway after the Tyisha Miller fiasco. I was afraid he’d come back for Trayvon. And it would have been polite of the damn shit to list the 100 cities he planned to crusade in this time. I kept looking for a list so I’d know where NOT to go this past weekend. Was there one?

  112. leigh says:

    Thanks, Ernst. I know where you’re coming from and I am not disputing it at all. To me, there is something about Palin that rings false and I can’t put my finger on it. She says the right (or Right) things, but they always sound like Hallmark cards to me. It is sound-bite wisdom or what passes for it. I am speaking for myself and not trying to convince anyone of anything.

    Neither do I want another inside the beltway kind of president, but Obama is about the furthest from an insider and there he is. Do we want that? I submit the answer is no. Reagan was a two term governor, an elder statesman and a serious fellow who had bucked the Red Scare politics of Hollywood and had come up from the Depression and WWII era. That in itself is a background that cannot be duplicated now. Instead we have aging hippies and bitter Vietnam vets trying to be Reagan—only hipper, of course.

    Palin is probably a nice woman (since I don’t know her, I can’t say) with decent accomplishments. But president? Probably not.

  113. I Callahan says:

    It works. Because we let it.

    I’m not letting it. Even with family members. Luckily, most of my family members aren’t doctrinaire leftists.

    However, I was at a family reunion this weekend, and my wife and I had to leave earlier. Apparently, this case came up as a discussion after we left. All I can say is that they’re lucky I didn’t stay, because I’m giving anyone and everyone both barrels on this, and I don’t care if they’re pissed off at me for life for it.

  114. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Obama is a phony outsider. He’s an insider in the sense that he share’s the same intellectual milleux and outlook as the rest of the ruling class. I guess you could haved called him a ruling class outsider, if that’s not too much of an oxymoron.

    There was some notice on Instapundit late last week or over the weekend about just how provincial the Obama administration is. Most of his senior appointees are northeasterners.

    Palin is probably a nice woman (since I don’t know her, I can’t say) with decent accomplishments. But president? Probably not.

    She couldn’t do any worse than Obama, and that makes her an improvement in my book. I doubt she’d do worse than anyone likely to emerge from the Republican field.

    Whatever that turns out to be.

  115. leigh says:

    She couldn’t do any worse than Obama, and that makes her an improvement in my book. I doubt she’d do worse than anyone likely to emerge from the Republican field.

    Good god, how low that bar for competence has been set if the measure of success if that “X couldn’t be any worse than Y”?

    This is probably all so much pixilating, since the nominee will be Chris “Slim” Christie or Jeb Bush or a hybrid of the two.

  116. Ernst Schreiber says:

    My observation wasn’t meant as a measure of competence. And in any event, you’ve answered your own question.

    [T]he nominee will be Chris “Slim” Christie or Jeb Bush or a hybrid of the two.

  117. leigh says:

    *sigh* I know. Dpressing, ain’t it?

  118. leigh says:

    Toss this ‘e’ up there.

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