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Obama on Benghazi cover-up: “there’s no there there”

See? There’s nothing new in any of that whistleblower testimony. We know this because Obama says so.

I guess he figures it’s the mainstream press and his apologists and enablers against FOX News, a handful of extremist rightwing talk radio outlets (who are charter members of the VRWC), and the kinds of rightwing blogs that nobody reads anyway.

Guess Obama and the left figure they may as well put to the test once and for all their belief that perception and manufactured consent trumps fact and truth — and in fact, comes to stand in for and replace truth with the “truth” of the linguistic turn (contingency, irony, solidrity!) — the upshot being if they succeed, the culture wars are over and the left has won.

You know, it’s one thing to point out each new flare up of symptoms, and another thing entirely to understand the disease that’s causing them in order to begin treatment toward an actual cure.

Who knows? Perhaps Blogcon14 will have a chin-scratching postmortem on the subject just before all the dignitaries retire to the banquet room for a pedestrian chicken dinner and nondescript white wine.

(h/t sdferr, via TWS)

83 Replies to “Obama on Benghazi cover-up: “there’s no there there””

  1. happyfeet says:

    i don’t trust him

  2. sdferr says:

    The now lapsed lifelong Democrat political operatives Doug Shoen and Pat Caddell, both commenters at Fox News, happen also to be the most forceful voices addressing the corruption at the heart of this monstrosity — stronger than any Republican pol speaking. Odd, that. Right? But who joins them? Dennis Kucinich! These guys know from corruption.

  3. Blake says:

    sdferr, I was watching Pat Caddell during one interview and thought the guy was going to have a stroke, he was so upset over Benghazi.

  4. epador says:

    Definitely not a Jedi Master yet.

  5. mojo says:

    “Let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who…’
    — Monty Python and the Holy Grail

  6. motionview says:

    Keep in mind by the way these so-called talking points that were prepared for Susan Rice, five, six days after the event occurred, pretty much matched the assessments that I was receiving at that time in my presidential daily briefing.

    Bullshit. Let’s see those PDBs.

  7. bgbear says:

    any minute now I expect him to proclaim “I am not a crook”

  8. sdferr says:

    Stephen Hayes comments on Obazm’s presser claims.

  9. Oy Vey Maria says:

    Damned liar. He thinks I’m stupid. I think he’s an insolent punk.
    I’d like to see a lie detector installed in his back that displays the results as he bloviates, where we can see them but he can’t. And every lie earns a short, sharp shock. It might even train the stutter out of him.

  10. Blake says:

    motionview, umm, wasn’t there some reporting about Obama skipping PDB’s during the whole Benghazi affair?

    I guess, technically, Obama can claim there was no information in the PDB’s, because the lazy jackass blew off the meetings.

    Ah, found a link to that notorious right wing publication, the Washington Post:

    The Government Accountability Institute, a new conservative investigative research organization, examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.

    Link

  11. sdferr says:

    Hayes points out the PDB’s would have to be utterly content free in order to make Obazm’s statement true. Which he and every reporter in D.C. knows can’t be true. So.

  12. Blake says:

    sdferr, so, who did Obama just throw under the bus? The PDB principles meeting or the people who write the PDB’s?

  13. I’m sure the little god-king wasn’t talking about the hearings, but about the space between his vast ears.

  14. sdferr says:

    who did Obama just throw under the bus?

    I think he thinks he’s asking the Press to throw themselves off the ship into the ocean somewhere between Antarctica and Tierra del Fuego.

  15. leigh says:

    I’m waiting for Petraeus to set us up the bomb.

    Obama, make your time.

  16. sdferr says:

    Sacrifices must be made, or the gods will be angry.

    Volcanoes, on the other hand, are so troublesome to get to the incipient offerings may as well jump ship on the way there.

  17. geoffb says:

    The attack on the consulate/mission started at 9:40 pm Benghazi time, 3:40 pm Washington DC time. Within 20 minutes the State Dept. in Washington had sent out a message that the attack was occurring. That was at 4:05 pm DC time.
    It has been reported that Obama went to bed at 9:00 pm DC time, 3:00 am Benghazi time.

    Has there ever been some accounting for what happened at the White House during that 5 hour period? What the President was doing, deciding, who he was meeting with and in contact with during that 5 hour period?

    5 hours during which the first 2 of the 4 Americans killed there died. 5 hours, 5 fucking hours of doing what? Nothing apparently as the word coming from some is that the entire multi-billion dollar per year apparatus of the federal government can’t even launch a plane in less that a couple of days.

    So we know that when seconds count the police are only minutes away which is why we should all be disarmed and depend on the police for our safety, right?

    Now we see when minutes/hours count our armed forces are only days away.

    “Shelter in place,” our new overall defense policy for every event. Worked pretty well for Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith now didn’t it?

  18. Silver Whistle says:

    Damned liar. He thinks I’m stupid.[..]

    He thinks we’re all stupid. And, he’s right, because he’s going to get away with it.

  19. Silver Whistle says:

    Nothing apparently as the word coming from some is that the entire multi-billion dollar per year apparatus of the federal government can’t even launch a plane in less that a couple of days.

    Which isn’t quite right, is it? Something that everyone seems to forget is that somehow Glen Doherty and a JSOC team managed to board a plane from Tripoli and fly to Benghazi after the Bat Signal went up. This makes everything that the DoD say about not being able to get assets there in time a complete and utter crock of shit.

  20. sdferr says:

    Which isn’t quite right, is it?

    Ach, but we have it straight from the lips of so great an authority as a former Marine Corps General and Vice-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff! Argumentum ad auctoritatem über alles.

  21. Blitz says:

    Geoffb? I read somewhere ( can’t remember where ) that for at least an hour he and Joe were unavailable due to a phone call with Bibi. Other than that? your guess is as good as mine.

  22. leigh says:

    Blitz, I don’t think there is anyway that Bibi was on the phone with those two chowderheads for an hour. Five minutes must seem like a lifetime.

  23. sdferr says:

    The Hill makes the leap: “We don’t fear no stinking Southern Ocean!”

  24. Libby says:

    He acts as if the talking points were a singular event – that this is the sum total of his administration’s messaging, and – oopsie!- they misspoke that one time.
    No. He and Hillary were lying in the days between the attack and Rice’s Sunday show, an Obama went so far as to spend a great deal of his Sept 25 U.N. address condemning the video and using it to make a greater point about respecting each others religion.
    Yes, there’s a there there, buddy.

  25. Blake says:

    leigh, great, I now have this audio running in my head, imagining a conversation between Bibi and VP Joe.

  26. Silver Whistle says:

    Ach, but we have it straight from the lips of so great an authority as a former Marine Corps General and Vice-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

    Wouldn’t it be nice to hear one shiny arse man up and say what everyone is thinking.

  27. dicentra says:

    any minute now I expect him to proclaim “I am not a crook”

    He already proclaimed “I am not a tyrant.”

    That should hold us.

    I’d like to see a lie detector installed in his back that displays the results as he bloviates,

    Obama can beat any lie detector cold: the detectors depend on the person’s conscience bugging them when they deviate from the truth, manifest as physiological symptoms or micro-expressions. Pathological liars react the same to “I did not send the Ambassador to his death” as “I had a muffin for breakfast.”

  28. Blitz says:

    From the ” no, please tell me how you REALLY feel “department I offer you this guy. No link, because I’m a friggin neanderthal.

    http://tinyurl.com/bx57qke

  29. Blitz says:

    and it linked anyway!! Oh well, Cro Magnon maybe.

  30. Blitz says:

    No, really leigh. there were notes and everything. I think maybe WND, so consider the source.

  31. Blitz says:

    OT. Goznell guilty 1st degree for 3 of the babies!!

    http://tinyurl.com/cmyqyhg

  32. leigh says:

    Sorry, Blake. My bad.

  33. Blake says:

    Slow Joe: “Hey, Bibi, have you guys thought about using shotguns to defend Israel?

    Netanyahu: “Sir, we were discussing Iran and if the US would sanction a strike.”

    Slow Joe: “Bibi, that’s cool and did I mention shotguns? Borders are not as thick as doors and invisible, so, whaddaya think? Couple of shotgun blasts across the border should do the trick, right? I keep tellin’ the American public and I hope you and Israel can show us how it’s done.”

    Netanyahu: “Sir, uh, I do not think you quite understand the security situation on the border….”

    Slow Joe: “Hey, if you want something, you gotta give something, am I right? So, I figure if you guys endorse shotguns, we can endorse a few bombs landing in Iran…..”

    Netanyahu: “……?????”

    Slow Joe: “Okay, cool, well, I gotta run and let the American Public know about Israel shotgunning Iran.”

  34. Matt says:

    My mom was remarking last night that she thinks the worst part of the whole thing is HIllary standing over those coffins and once again, proclaiming “it was a video” to the parents of those brave service members. The parents are rightfully pissed. Remember when Cindy Sheehan had absolute moral authority? For some reason, these parents seem to have been given less respect than Sheehan.

  35. leigh says:

    Who wants to bust a cap in McCain’s knee so I don’t have to see him on my teevee no mo’?

  36. Jim in KC says:

    Who wants to bust a cap in McCain’s knee so I don’t have to see him on my teevee no mo’?

    Execrable as his politics may be, I’m not sure that would work. He does seem to be a tough old buzzard…

  37. leigh says:

    You’re probably right, Jim.

    Who can round up a youngish female fan of his to give him a big kiss and a case of strep throat? A week or ten days of laryngitis would be a relief to my ears.

  38. Jim in KC says:

    Where’s Morganna when you need her, right?

    (Dead, probably, although I’m not going to bother to find out. We need a new and improved Morganna for the 21st century.)

  39. Squid says:

    My mom was remarking last night that she thinks the worst part of the whole thing is Hillary standing over those coffins and once again, proclaiming “it was a video” to the parents of those brave service members.

    If I had a couple of million sitting around, I’d surely be running that footage in every major media market, calling for impeachment of Barry & Hilly with all due haste. Make sure every low-information voter understands that these people are lying to our faces and pissing on our heroes for their own personal power. Rub their faces in it ’til the message starts to sink into their tiny, atrophied brainmeats.

  40. SBP says:

    “Where’s Morganna when you need her, right?”

    According to Wikipedia, still alive. She retired in 1999.

  41. sdferr says:

    Obazma: “Oakland? Why you talkin’ bout Oakland? There’s no there there”

    and

    “So! Tough ol’ PhillyBird Kermit finds out what I meant by being ‘punished with a baby’ (or two, or three). Let’s hear it for me folks! And crickets. C’mon, step up.”

  42. BigBangHunter says:

    – Which asks the question “How many criminal and treasonous acts does it take to get to the center of an impeachment?”

  43. newrouter says:

    that be a racistsity ?

  44. Oy Vey Maria says:

    DiCentra-
    “Obama can beat any lie detector cold: the detectors depend on the person’s conscience bugging them when they deviate from the truth, manifest as physiological symptoms or micro-expressions. Pathological liars react the same to “I did not send the Ambassador to his death” as “I had a muffin for breakfast.”

    ah, but he did have symptoms. He blinked excessively. He could not restrain his duping delight smile after each lie. He’s duping less in a fast hurry and he’s starting to sweat. I’m no expert about these things, but I dont think he’s smart/cool enough to pass a lie detector test.

    It’s looking very much like his copping this attitude is to hide the fact they told him to go to bed that night and not worry himself, get some rest so he could wow them in vegas. And he did just that. Its too forgiving to dismiss his feeble ass-covering as pathological liar. He can help it.

    And I really don’t mean to argue with you, I admire your input enormously. Thanks for taking up my idea for discussion.

  45. newrouter says:

    levin just pointed out that baracky mentioned “the film” again today.
    talk about talking points

  46. newrouter says:

    The whole issue of talking points, frankly, throughout this process has been a sideshow. What we have been very clear about throughout was that immediately after this event happened we were not clear who exactly had carried it out, how it had occurred, what the motivations were. It happened at the same time as we had seen attacks on U.S. embassies in Cairo as a consequence of this film. And nobody understood exactly what was taking place during the course of those first few days.

    link

  47. dicentra says:

    I dont think he’s smart/cool enough to pass a lie detector test.

    Well, that’s what I get for not watching the video first. You’re right: he’s got more tells than an archery contest in Switzerland.

    Also, the Powers That Decide These Things have renamed genus “Dicentra” to “Lamprocarpus.”

    ????

    Don’t like it. Nope, not one bit.

  48. BigBangHunter says:

    And nobody understood exactly what was taking place during the course of those first few days.

    – Which as everyone knows, is exactly why you sent an army of your lackeys, including Rice and Carney, and anyone else willing to lie for the cause, out to lie through their teeth about something that “nobody knew was taking place”, and do it in as many venues in order to reach as wide an audience as possible quickly. There was an election to win.

    – Tell you what Bumbleass, I don’t think anyone in the US, much less the ME, had ever heard of your bullshit video until you planted the idea in their heads.

    – Where there?…….There Castle…..There wolf…..There a pack of fucking liars.

  49. sdferr says:

    Lamprocarpus?

    Brightfruit? Oder? Shiningfruit?

  50. BigBangHunter says:

    – As I opined a few days ago, before the press suddenly started showing signs of “oh shit”, as long as Wafflehead had the MSM behind him he was safe. If the media decides to repent and goes after him full force he’s toast.

  51. geoffb says:

    An attorney for a Tea Party group that believes the IRS targeted it for special scrutiny while applying for nonprofit status said an IRS analyst told him over a year ago that the agency had a “secret working group” devoted to investigating conservative organizations.

    Attorney Dan Backer, whose client TheTeaParty.net has been trying to obtain tax-exempt status since 2010, said an IRS analyst mentioned the alleged working group during a phone conversation about one of Backer’s other client organizations.

    “More than a year ago, one of these guys, really a slip of the tongue, [said] ‘Yeah we have this new working group that’s really looking at all these conservative organizations,’” Backer said. “And that’s when we knew it was gonna be a problem.”

  52. BigBangHunter says:

    – With the spying on the press revelations, the IRS thing, F&F, and Black Panthers, ACORN, and now Benghazi, the media would have a bigger field day, month, and year than Watergate.

    – Carney not so subtly slipped one to Billery the other day, which I took as a warning shot across the bow, in case she was planning a roll-over bid to try to salvage her pres plans. Would love to see them tear each others throats out.

  53. geoffb says:

    IRS Office That Targeted Tea Party Also Disclosed Confidential Docs From Conservative Groups.

  54. BigBangHunter says:

    – Apparently the results 0f 2010 really had the Gestopo sweating bullets so they went all in for dirty tricks. Now the “enemy list”.

    – Maybe he should have titled the book someone else invented for him as Dreams of my Nixon.

  55. newrouter says:

    dreams of mein fuhrer

  56. newrouter says:

    some bedtime reading from last nite:

    Prof. Dewey’s experimentalism, however,permits him to change his mind in keeping with changing conditions. ” There is no opposition in principle,” he claimed, “between liberalism as social philosophy and radicalism in action, if by radicalism is signified the adoption of policies that bring about drastic instead of piecemeal change”

    page 566 “The New International Year Book” 1934

    same hickenlooper different era

  57. sdferr says:

    The key bit of newrouter’s last link:

    Obama — “What’s blocking us right now is a sort of hyper-partisanship in Washington that I was, frankly, hoping to overcome in 2008,” Obama said today, according to the pool report. “My thinking was when we beat them in 2012 that might break the fever, and it’s not quite broken yet. But I am persistent. And I am staying at it. And I genuinely believe there are Republicans out there who would like to work with us but they’re fearful of their base and they’re concerned about what Rush Limbaugh might say about them.”

    The president — whose administration has spent the last four days under fire for failing to send aid to Americans under attack in Benghazi; hiding what it knew about terrorists’ involvement in the attack for two weeks; employing IRS staff who targeted Tea Party groups for special audits; and having the Justice Department pull phone records of Associated Press reporters — then said that the Republican opposition is producing cynicism about government.

  58. sdferr says:

    And again, to drive the point home, another article on the same subject from the hyperpartisan and cowardly Hill rag:

    “What’s blocking us right now is a sort of hyper-partisanship in Washington that I was, frankly, hoping to overcome in 2008, and in the midst of crisis rather than saying now’s the time for us to come together, decided to take another path,” Obama said. “My thinking was when we beat them in 2012 that might break the fever, and it’s not quite broken yet.”

  59. Ernst Schreiber says:

    “What’s blocking us right now is a sort of hyper-partisanship in Washington that I was, frankly, hoping to overcome in 2008,” Obama said today[.]

    Overcome through fundamental transformation, you sonofabitch.

    “My thinking was when we beat them in 2012 that might break the fever, and it’s not quite broken yet. But I am persistent. And I am staying at it.”

    Soviet Premier Nikita Krushchev, Moscow, 18 November, 1956.

  60. sdferr says:

    Seize the power while the seizing is good:

    Senate Democrats frustrated with the GOP’s blocking of a string of President Obama’s nominees are seriously weighing a controversial tactic known as the “nuclear option.”

    The option — which would involve Democrats changing Senate rules through a majority vote to prevent the GOP from using the 60-vote filibuster to block nominations — was raised during a private meeting Wednesday involving about 25 Democratic senators and a group of labor leaders.

  61. newrouter says:

    ““My thinking was when we beat them in 2012 that might break the fever”

    soviet psychology no? i’d do sports but not with this idiot

  62. sdferr says:

    Neil Munro, he of the shouted question: Obama hopes for extended crisis atmosphere

    President Barack Obama says he wants to “see if we can institutionalize” in Washington the community spirit that sometimes emerges after a terror attack or an industrial explosion.

    The president made the comments during a fund-raising trip to New York, shortly after leaving Washington, D.C. in an uproar over an explosion of scandals, including last week’s revelations of politically motivated IRS investigations and the White House’s editing of reports on the lethal terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya.

  63. newrouter says:

    commie/fascist gone wild

  64. sdferr says:

    More from Munro:

    Obama ended his on-again, off-again call for bipartisanship by suggesting he would try to break the GOP majority in the House.

    “If there are folks who are more interested in winning elections than they are thinking about the next generation then I want to make sure there are consequences to that,” he said, without explaining his threat.

  65. Ernst Schreiber says:

    President Barack Obama says he wants to “see if we can institutionalize” in Washington the community spirit that sometimes emerges after a terror attack or an industrial explosion.

    William James, “The Moral Equivalent of War.” Somebody wrote a book about the siren song contained in that lecture.

    Fucking reactionary in the White House wants to turn the clock back a hundred years.

  66. Ernst Schreiber says:

    When you care about the next generation, you don’t neeed to take responsibility for your failings to this generation. What are the lives of a gay ambassador and a couple of ex-Navy Seal mercenaries (oh, and that career diplomat guy who got whacked too, I suppose) compared to all the lives yet to be?

  67. sdferr says:

    Shooting off his mouth the way he does, Obazm seems to have more in common (by way of community spirit) with those scum who fired into the Mother’s Day crowd in New Orleans, than with skeevy old William James.

  68. Ernst Schreiber says:

    In a he doesn’t know why he thinks what he thinks, just like they don’t know why they do what the do sort of way, I suppose.

    I’m just pointing out the intellectual origins of his wishcasting, and drawing attention to how old-fashioned they are.

  69. sdferr says:

    Alexis Simendinger: The buck is passed to Baucus (who, isn’t he about to head for the hills of Montanny?) as a source of the IRS malfeasance

    Two and a half years ago, media outlets excerpted a Sept. 28, 2010, letter sent to the IRS by Democratic Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, in which he cited a string of news reports about conservative groups that operated as non-political advocacy operations under the law.

    A month away from tough midterm elections, Baucus asked the IRS commissioner to “survey major 501c (4), c(5), and c(6) organizations to determine whether they are acting as conduits for major donors advancing their own private interests regarding legislation or political campaigns, or are providing major donors with excess benefits.”

  70. sdferr says:

    Ron Fournier, still burying his head up his ass in the sand.

    He may need to fire people who can’t get his story straight.

    If only Stalin knew, things would be better.

  71. SBP says:

    “they are thinking about the next generation”

    You mean like not leaving them burdened by crippling debt at best, or under an outright communist regime at worst?

    That kind of “thinking about the next generation”?

  72. Ernst Schreiber says:

    No, not that kind of thinking. More of the communist revolution and the dictatorship of the proletariat kind of thinking.

    Of course, they’re going to have to create the proletarian class first. And much to their chagrin, too, since the running dog capitalists so far have refused to play the role assigned to them by dialectical materialism/scientific socialism.

    But that just shows how sneaky the bastards are.

  73. John Bradley says:

    Also, the Powers That Decide These Things have renamed genus “Dicentra” to “Lamprocarpus.”

    Upside: People will no longer confuse you with Darleen.

    Downside: Your new nickname will be ‘carp’.

  74. Matt says:

    *“they are thinking about the next generation”*

    The next generation of democratic voters, obviously. Priorities, people. Its not like we’re all Americans. Diversity is our strength. FORWARD!

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