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Never underestimate the depth of Left-liberal anti-religious bigotry [Darleen Click]

Piers Morgan and ilk laughing, mocking and denigrating Mitt Romney as a “religious fanatic” for quoting from Psalms in a commencement speech at University of Southern Virginia, where the students are 92% Mormon.

Maeve Reston opines that Romney didn’t connect with Single Women(tm) because he’s just so “into his marriage and kids”.

How icky is that!

Unless it is Obama, the Family Man, of course.

74 Replies to “Never underestimate the depth of Left-liberal anti-religious bigotry [Darleen Click]”

  1. happyfeet says:

    it’s ok by me if people want to mock Mitt Romney but nobody is more fanatical than whorish dead baby pimp Piers Morgan

    except maybe Michael Bloomberg I guess

  2. Spiny Norman says:

    Has anyone in the Democrat Media Machine matured past adolescence? Good grief.

  3. leigh says:

    That was a rhetorical question, right Spiny?

    After watching Anderson Cooper snicker through a report about the TEA Party in which he repeatedly referred to them as “tea-baggers”, I decided not to even give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

  4. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Quoting the Psalms?!? HAH!

    Everyone knows you quote Proverbs or Ecclesiastes at a graduation.

    Unless the school is run by the Whore of Babylon.

    They quote from Wisdom or Sirach.

    Stoopid Mormons.

  5. serr8d says:

    That’s just typical reaction of far-Left culture to traditional American values. Denigration and mockery, a progg’s answer to what allowed (and encouraged) them to achieve their current perches today.

    If they had to do their lives over again, starting fresh, conceived today by a couple of ‘their’ favored liberals, it’s likely none of ’em would make it further than their local cutting room’s stainless steel basins.

  6. LBascom says:

    I find this a little scary, this being called a “religious fanatic” for using a bible quote in a speech.

    Well, along with the rest of what’s going on in the country.

    Could just be my persecution complex though…

  7. dicentra says:

    One of the first things I noticed when I got to Cornell in the mid 90s was that the term “religious fanatic” was considered redundant.

    I’ve been asked how I could spend 5 years at Cornell and still be all religious and stuff, as if an Ivy had some kind of fail-proof argument against God.

    All I heard was this:

    1) RACISM! SEXISM! HOMOPHOBIA! for which religion is solely responsible.

    2) But what about the Crusades?

    3) And what about the Inquisition?

    That was the extent and the depth to which religion was argued against. Boy, what kinda brainwashing I musta had to resist THAT.

    In reality, the most persuasive argument is that if you’re religious, you can count on being mocked, reviled, ridiculed, and Never Taken Seriously.

    Peer pressure, in other words.

    I figure that if peer pressure is a stupid reason to join up with religion, it’s an equally piss-poor reason to leave.

    So here we are.

  8. SBP says:

    Personally I expect anti-religious bigotry to get worse before it gets better. Much worse.

  9. BT says:

    For a minute there i thought maybe they were laughing at Morgan’s ratings.

  10. cranky-d says:

    Jesus said that following his teachings would be dangerous, that we would be persecuted for it.

    I’m with Spies on this; it will get worse.

  11. leigh says:

    It’s pretty bad right now. But, I agree that it will get worse.

  12. newrouter says:

    so you might have to stand in front of a tank?

  13. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Romney: Have a Quiver Full of Kids

    Having a large family sounds like it might be a good retirement plan.

    Certainly better than trusting in Social Security.

  14. leigh says:

    There is an Evangelical group that the Duggars (the family with 19 or 20 kids) belong to that is called Quiverful. They want their members to have as many children as possible. Here I thought Catholics and Mormons were in the kiddo business, but they’re taking it to design limit.

  15. dicentra says:

    so you might have to stand in front of a tank?

    Dunno. Before it gets there, we’ll find it hard to get a job if the hiring is done by people who hate the religious, and it becomes generally acceptable to shun us.

    Because of the homophobia, primarily.

    Or the homophobia-phobia. Whatever.

    The marginalization will continue, but at the same time, the blue-to-red state migration will pick up the pace. If we’re lucky, there won’t be enough blues in power in Austin or Salt Lake City to prevent those states (and others) from becoming Red Havens.

  16. leigh says:

    SLC is blue? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since so is Tulsa and OKC. Any place that has access to social services seems to attract blues.

  17. newrouter says:

    the proggtards are funny. don’t “believe” in G-d or country. believe in whitey obama and hairplugs instead.

  18. leigh says:

    Remember, nr: Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country.

  19. dicentra says:

    Here I thought Catholics and Mormons were in the kiddo business, but they’re taking it to design limit.

    Although the LDS church doesn’t prohibit contraception, there are many LDS families who decide on their own to eschew it, figuring that they’ll “take as many kids as the Lord sends us.”

    No, not that the Lord is going to make you suddenly infertile after three kids, if that’s His will, but the couple is willing to have kids until the fertility runs out on its own.

    BTW, these kids are well-adjusted and happy, and they grow up to be productive citizens. The idea that they don’t “get enough attention from their parents” is hogwash: kids just need a “village” to grow up in, and that village consists of a ton of siblings, headed by mom and dad as managers, not as pals and definitely not as helicopters.

    It works. Unless the parents are pathological to begin with, and then you get Westboro.

    We out-live, out-reproduce, and out-earn all of y’all.

    Ojo!

  20. newrouter says:

    “we’ll find it hard to get a job if the hiring is done by people who hate the religious, ”

    they hate a large consumer base. disconnect from them.

  21. leigh says:

    Yup. We have the great big families, too. Although we are have a number who have decided to use artificial birth control rather than natural family planning. When I was growing up, it wasn’t unusual to see families with six or eight kids. I knew one with fourteen.

  22. dicentra says:

    SLC is blue?

    Sorta. Salt Lake county is only 36% LDS, but Utah county (Provo, BYU) is much higher, as are the rural counties. The proggs congregate in SLC proper (mostly the Avenues and the area near the U of U), so the mayor of SLC is often a moonbat. They also have taken over Park City (very hip place to live) and Moab (slickrock, mountain biking, and New Agey schlock).

    One of our four reps to the House is a Dem, though a fairly conservative one (Matheson). He voted against Obamacare, IIRC.

    You know how it is: the proggs coalesce in the capital cities because that’s where the power is. Their activist selves tend to over-influence legislation (all the while screeching THEOCRACY! any time the more conservative position asserts itself).

    Mormons already have an inferiority complex: we know how un-hip we are, having been told by all the cool kids in Utah (radio DJs, high school teachers, opinion columns) that we’re so square it’s offensive. Don’t you DARE preach to us, they shriek. And the larger popular culture supports their PoV, so we cower in our humiliation, having been put in our place.

    If there’s a mass migration of reds into Utah or Texas or anywhere similar, some blues will leave, but the rest won’t give up their precious positions of power, whether it be gubmint power or their sneering perches in the social hierarchy.

  23. dicentra says:

    disconnect from them.

    Weber State University went through a five-year period when no LDS were hired to faculty positions.

    Not. One.

    Because the provost was a rabid anti-Mormon h8r who felt perfectly justified in keeping Those People away from his precious university. When the new uni president found out, he fired him. (My mom was secretary to the president during that time, so that’s how I know.)

    In one technical-writing firm, I was told much later that one of the reasons I wasn’t tossed out of consideration was that I didn’t put my mission on my resume as “leadership experience.” That indicated to them that I wasn’t one of Those Kinds of Mormons—you know, the kind that actually believe?

    Turns out that I was, but that didn’t stop people from engaging in Mormon-bashing in my presence. Didn’t even occur to them that they were being rude, because it’s OK to bash Mormons at any time and in any place, because it’s the only reasonable thing to think. And we have to take it because we totally deserve it.

  24. serr8d says:

    OT but fascinating: Niall Ferguson, having annoyed the hell out of the Leftist Establishment (by not only goring Keynes for his economic theory, but by doing so by mentioning Keynes’ somewhat ghey gayness) is buttressed by Tyler Durden.

    While Harvard historian Niall Ferguson’s off-the-cuff remarks during the Q&A were in his words “as stupid as they were insensitive”, the core message of his presentation was clear: the party of the last 20 years is now over and the longer we fail to address the real issues the bigger the hangover will be in the future. The central question Ferguson asks is whether our institutions, corporations and governments, are degenerating.

  25. leigh says:

    I can relate, di. I once asked for permission to have the morning off to go to Mass on Ash Wednesday. When I showed up an hour or so after we usually started with ashes on my forehead, I got mocked and told that I probably slept in and that I had just gotten some ashes out of my fireplace. In other words, who did I think I was kidding?

  26. happyfeet says:

    While a large portion of the U.S. will continue to languish due to regulatory and fiscal policy – there are four growth corridors:

    Great Plains
    Third Coast Region
    Intermountain Region
    Gulf Coast

    What do all four of these corridor things have in common?

    Texas!

  27. leigh says:

    I wish Niall Ferguson hadn’t apologized. He should be entitled to his own feelings, after all.

  28. newrouter says:

    so standing in front of a tank is foreseeable?

  29. sdferr says:

    Along the never underestimate lines, never underestimate the moral corruption of the Obazma administration: a more empty human regard you may hope to never see.

    (What the massacre looks like on the ground. Warning, these are as evil a set of images of ethnic cleansing — the murders of men women and children — as can be imagined, so brace before you look.)

  30. Pablo says:

    Who in their right mind puts a camera in front of Marc Lamont Hill? Don’t even get me started on the sorts who’ll put their kids in front of him.

  31. Pablo says:

    Having a large family sounds like it might be a good retirement plan.

    Certainly better than trusting in Social Security.

    Especially if you raise kids that aren’t losers. I’m pretty sure Mitt and Ann will be OK.

  32. cranky-d says:

    Someone explain to newrouter that bucking the military, in which you do not have the same rights as those not in the military, and bucking the culture are two different things.

    It’s really easy to say that someone should join the military and deliberately violate orders and get a court-martial and have their lives permanently damaged to make a point about freedom of religious expression. I wouldn’t advocated that anyone lie down in front of that bulldozer.

  33. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Keynes was a homosexual and had no intention of having children. We are NOT dead in the long run…our children are our progeny.

    I’m going to guess “homosexual” wasn’t the word Ferguson used about Keynes. Nevertheless, that is I think a valid insight into Keynes.

  34. leigh says:

    Quite valid and brushes away a lot of the hocus-pocus around Keynesian economics.

  35. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Ferguson says I’m wrong.

    …I should not have suggested – in an off-the-cuff response that was not part of my presentation – that Keynes was indifferent to the long run because he had no children, nor that he had no children because he was gay. This was doubly stupid. First, it is obvious that people who do not have children also care about future generations. Second, I had forgotten that Keynes’s wife Lydia miscarried.

  36. Ernst Schreiber says:

    We’ll compromise. Ferguson was only half-stupid, which means I’m only half-wrong to think Ferguson’s half-stupid observation is a (half-) valid one.

  37. leigh says:

    Sounds good to me.

  38. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Kind of a pathetic bleg here:

    If any of you good people have commenting privileges over at Zero Hedge, would one of you mind telling a certain James Cole to buy the damn book.

    Many thanks

    he said, only half-sarcastically.

  39. leigh says:

    Stay away from Memeorandum. Half their page is links to columns chastising Ferguson for being a homophobe.

  40. cranky-d says:

    I tend to believe what Ferguson said originally is what he meant. Then he wussed out later.

  41. leigh says:

    Precisely.

  42. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Ferguson is the closest thing to a non-leftist celebrity public intellectual, so it’s understandable that certain people would want to see him defenestrated.

    I think he meant it too, Cranky, but I also think that after some reflection he decided it wasn’t the telling point on Keynes’s shortcomings that he thought it was at the moment. Fear for his Harvard sinecure probably played no small role in his further reflections. The fact that he mentions Keynes’s wife’s misscarriage, however, precludes me from thinking he wussed out completely.

  43. cranky-d says:

    It would probably be a distraction to note that no one has ever followed Keynes’ model. He posited that one save money during times of high productivity and then use that saved money to stimulate during times of low productivity. Modern governments have always overspent and then spent even more for “stimulus” during times of low productivity.

    I doubt he would agree that that is a good idea.

    Note that I am not claiming that he was correct. I tend to doubt it.

  44. newrouter says:

    Someone explain to newrouter that bucking

    lots of cranky, no balls

  45. newrouter says:

    me i’m at the point now that i laugh at the proggtard’s tank.

  46. newrouter says:

    fuck off.

    it ain’t about you and your opinion

  47. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I’m pretty much at sea here, so let me put my Captain McCluskey hat on before I start speculatin on a hypotisiss

    When we talk about Keynes, aren’t we really talking about Galbraith? At least in the American context?

  48. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The tank doesn’t care that you’re laughing when it runs you over, newrouter.

  49. newrouter says:

    oh you xtians go read about the martyrs in spain with the religion of peace. effin’ proggtard century 7.0(oh ad not about moe)

  50. newrouter says:

    “The tank doesn’t care”

    do you care? does the tank driver care? mr. german dude are you peeping “tank violence”?

  51. dicentra says:

    If I end up standing in front of a tank, a la Tianamen Square, it will be because the country has become a police state with the proggs in charge, and they’ve decided—again—to exterminate those damned Mormons.

    My ancestors endured persecution from the U.S. gubmint; it would be an honor to follow in their footsteps.

  52. newrouter says:

    “they’ve decided—again—to exterminate those damned Mormons.”

    ah no:
    FBI Informant Reveals Weather Underground Advocated “Killing 25 Million Americans.”

  53. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Nobody knows what became of Tank Man. But has anybody even thought to ask what became of the tank commander? I wonder.

    I’ll care when it’s time to care.

    And that time will be when the tank is literal, not metaphorical.

  54. newrouter says:

    yea like a :
    A TIME FOR CHOOSING

  55. Ernst Schreiber says:

    And instead of killing 25 million Americans, what did they do? Poisoned minds and crippled an economy through a celebrity protege.

  56. John Bradley says:

    Give them time, they’re not done yet.

  57. newrouter says:

    “I’ll care when it’s time to care.”

    sooner makes personal planning easier.

  58. newrouter says:

    “And instead of killing 25 million Americans, what did they do?”

    set it up for the current proggtard cycle. fast and furiously

  59. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Standing in front of a Tank/Athwart History/Going-Galt/Secession/Nullification

    none of those were among the things Reagan was talking about.

    The idea behind Choosing is to have a choice, an alternative vision. It also means accepting that your alternative might not be the choice the People choose.

    To go back to your metaphor, I’m not oppossed to standing in front of the tank, if standing in front of a tank is all there is that’s left to do, but I won’t do it needlessly or precipitously either.

  60. newrouter says:

    ” all there is that’s left to do”

    if you stand up to the “tank” now they retreat. you want them to retreat. you want to defeat them soundly.

  61. newrouter says:

    there is not a “choice” with proggtards. defeat them

  62. newrouter says:

    it is fun fighting pikachus. there comes a time to fight the proggtarded. now is the time.

  63. Ernst Schreiber says:

    if you stand up to the “tank” now they retreat

    Even as a metaphor, that only makes sense if you specify with what you intend to stand up to them with.

    It seems to me you’re getting into WHAT. ARE YOU. PREPARED. TO DO!?!?! aaaargh gaaah gurgle gurgle territory, and your only plan is to win an academy award for spitting ketchup.

  64. Ernst Schreiber says:

    it is fun fighting pikachus

    Actually, no, it isn’t.

    there comes a time to fight the proggtarded. now is the time.

    Okay, General Bolivar. What’s your plan?

  65. cranky-d says:

    He will taunt them. If that doesn’t work, he will taunt them again.

  66. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Why not? It worked for the French.

    The question is, would it have continued to work, had the police not arrested John Cleese?

    And in the nick of time, too!

  67. happyfeet says:

    at this point any plan would be wholly and completely an act of faith

    y’all should be like pigs in mud

  68. serr8d says:

    Okay, General Bolivar. What’s your plan?

    It’d be nice to see at least one LeftLibProgg – Obama – OFA – KOS – MMFA-paid operation that’s being run top-down and carried out by minor-league grunts defeated, or at least harassed and countered by the ‘good guys’. But it’d mean getting hands dirty in Twitter or Facebook. I don’t do Facebook, but I’ve been fighting these bastards for a year now. They HATES! me.

    #StopRush

  69. dicentra says:

    at this point any plan would be wholly and completely an act of faith

    Unlike other plans that deal with the unknowable future…

  70. happyfeet says:

    i detect sarcasms

  71. SBP says:

    “When we talk about Keynes, aren’t we really talking about Galbraith? ”

    Gilbreth, on the other hand, had no shortage of offspring.

    WRT tanks: the classic view is that Molotov cocktails work way better than standing in front of them. I don’t know if that’s still the case. Might be worth finding out.

  72. so standing in front of a tank is foreseeable?

    OPSEC, nr. One does not discuss strategy or tactics, even hypothetically, in the open.

  73. beemoe says:

    I’ve been asked how I could spend 5 years at Cornell and still be all religious and stuff, as if an Ivy had some kind of fail-proof argument against God.

    All I heard was this:

    1) RACISM! SEXISM! HOMOPHOBIA! for which religion is solely responsible.

    2) But what about the Crusades?

    3) And what about the Inquisition?

    That was the extent and the depth to which religion was argued against. Boy, what kinda brainwashing I musta had to resist THAT.

    I am a devout agnostic, but I find myself defending Christianity quite a bit among by lefty friends. It inevitably leads from the above lectures to Jesus and dinosaurs and old men on thrones in the clouds and so on.

    My response then is “so have you studied religion at all after you left Vacation Bible School?” That almost always shuts the discussion right down.

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