The more I read about what is in this thing the more I suspect that this whole deal was pre-written by some Bloomberg-ian attorneys who charge $2000 an hour or more to write contracts with slippery-slopes tucked away in little sub-clauses that help their client to fool the rubes signing on from the other side. A Hollywood style contractual raping. If what was done in the making of this legislation was done on a date that ended in sex the Democrats would be charged with, at a minimum, date rape by getting their date blind drunk and then having their way with her/him though it could be said of the Republican’s they are eagerly gullible to drink anything given to them so they could spread their legs without feeling responsible:
Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Pat Toomey (R-PA), and Joe Manchin (D-WV) have rushed to cobble together some gun control legislation, providing another chance that Senate Democrat Leader Harry Reid can jam it through the Senate before anybody can read and decipher it. Due to the sloppy drafting of the Schumer-Toomey-Manchin (“STM”) legislation, and hopefully not to the intent of the Senators, the legislation could lead to starting a federal gun registry.
I do think it was, all the little “easter eggs” in this mess were precisely the intent of the Democrats. Our side always gives them the out of being stupid/”sloppy” but we should by now realize that they are just evil and mean to destroy all freedom for all other people everywhere they can reach. Despicable doesn’t begin to get to what the Democrats have become, as idiot enablers doesn’t begin to describe the Republican leadership.
Of course the mantra blasted in this and every other “problem” cited by the Left is “We must do something!” Something which always leads in one direction as their arrow only flies to one desired target.
[T]hough we share the pain of those who grieve, we cannot allow ourselves to build, or rebuild, the world around them.
Doing something is an anathema to intelligent action; it allows us to believe that somehow feeling supersedes thinking, that the public expression of emotion, as cathartic as it might be, is grounds for reshaping our entire country into something the Founders never intended.
Notes for the next constitution: no more letting Congress vote on legislation before it’s written. Not even for the rule to consider it. If there isn’t a bill presented to be read and digested beforehand, no voting.
Under pain of listening to Justin Bieber’s entire oeuvre.
Also: each Congresscritter must declare, under penalty of perjury, that he or she has read and fully understands the entire bill.
no bill can be longer than 25 1 sided pages double spaced font = 12
I really don’t understand Manchin getting involved with this at all, let alone being this high profile.
Gun control is the one thing that will get a Democrat beat in WV.
He’s doing the anti-Toomey, and for the same reason. Toomey wants to be able to tell the eastern Penn. urban/suburban voters that he’s a sane reasonable Republican who helped bring about common sense gun safety. Manchin wants to tell West Virginia voters that he’s a sane reasonable Democrat that kept the liberal gun-grabbers from succeeding in taking away all the guns.
It’s one of those split the baby strategies that a certain type of politician likes to employ. The calculus is that you’ll pick up more new voters than you’ll lose old voters. Manchin has a better chance of it succeeding than Toomey I’m guessing.
Won’t work in WV, there aren’t any large cities there, no huge concentrations of urban lefties. The Democrats there are blue collar, rural union Democrats who don’t give a fuck about compromise when it comes to guns. In fact, most of them are large hunting family types who will be more pissed about the transfer and ownership laws than an assault weapon ban, I would reckon.
Sounds like most of PA. The part between Philly and Pittsburgh.
I really like the proposed rule that Jefferson mentioned – a bill must sit for a year before being voted on, and if even a letter is changed it must sit again for a year.
Now the “year” thing made more sense for the time. Now with the rapid transmission of information, I figure three months is good. Maybe a month in committee, then three months on the floor.
Or some permutation of this. There really should be something like this. The whole, “write it in secret, move it to the floor without debate and vote before any sane person can call it discussed” is malarky. The antithesis of reasonable as far as republican democracy goes. This must stop. But odds are it won’t be addressed until after they finish altering the 2nd Amendment (straight to the courts with that one) with a majority vote and flooding the electorate with 12+ million new voters.
Whatta ruse. Deplorable.
Geoff, you provided a link in the comments before about Joe Manchin getting lightweight fools hammered on his Black Tie yacht in true Kennedy fashion.
That would fit nicely somewhere in your first paragraph.
I’m working off the perhaps erroneous assumption that pro-gun Democrats in West Virginia are like pro-life Democrats in Minnesota.
Which is to say, Democrats.
But Toomey has undoubtedly fucked himself.
The antithesis of reasonable as far as republican democracy goes.
Or, y’know, treasonous, as far as republican democracy goes — if we wanna put names to it.
I don’t have posting privileges bh, so here are the links.
“Booze and boat parties smoothed bipartisan gun deal”
And.
“For Manchin, that agreement was the payoff from months of relationship-building with Republicans, including nights of pizza and beer on a senator-stuffed boat called the Black Tie. The final deal was worked out over the past week, and concluded late Tuesday with a huddle at a rooftop birthday party for TV host Joe Scarborough.
There, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) agreed to support the proposal — but to skip the news conference so his enemies would not become the bill’s enemies.”
Notice “the payoff.” You don’t exact “payoffs” from friends, you do from marks you have been schmoozing with a goal you want in mind.
I call them “Stupaks.”
ABC, still working the angles for the ObaZma team:
Want me to throw them in, Geoff?
I’d add them as links on “blind drunk” and then “having their way with her/him” if you wanted.
Ok.
The game is that the NRA’s sponsorship of a race is “controversial”, which is bullshit. The only controversy is how Connecticut elected a wannabe fascist censorious douchebag to the Senate. This prick needs a good curbstomping.
the folks at nro are upset about their “lack” of gosnell coverage
link
i’m more upset about their lack of reporting on rino tom ridge’s health dept.
Not sure what your point is. They can find other Senators that are still Democrats.
Judging from GeoffB’s links I wonder if maybe Joe already has an upward career move in mind. Throwing huge parties with Republicans on a luxury yacht isn’t going to play well back home either.
Part of the same story, nr.
The thing about the Gosnell case that is most disturbing is that if he hadn’t started dealing drugs he would still be butchering away. There appears to be no oversight at all in that industry, how many other such butcher shops are still in business?
Kirsten Powers has a perfectly ironic piece in USA Today about media coverage, also
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/04/10/philadelphia-abortion-clinic-horror-column/2072577/
I think there is hope for that girl yet.
proggtardia uber alles
Did the AP, ESPN, and Fox Refuse to Mention ‘NRA 500? by Official Name? What We Found May Surprise You
“There appears to be no oversight at all in that industry,”
it helps that the gov’t stops inspecting
Tom Ridge: Unindicted Co-conspirator
Bubbles pop, this one is getting a bit leaky.
Additional to the post.
When bad things happen, out of the blue, there is, after the shock has worn off a bit, a human tendency to look back on all that we have done before the horror happened and think, “If only I’d ….”. For some events there is no “If only” but for others, like Sandy Hook, they can be found. “If only when Janey said “Mom I don’t want to go to school today” I’d said “Sure honey.” Even though you know that the scene has played out many times and nothing bad happened you will still dwell on the terrible “what ifs.”
Religion is a comfort if you really believe. Bad things happen to good people but there will be something very good that will come from them. And it will if you look and believe. We live our lives in the unreality that we have control over things. What we do have is the ability to influence the odds of things but there is so much randomness built into life that we can’t really control events completely just nudge the odds in a direction we want.
In war this randomness shines through and those who come to live knowing it as “THE” truth of life when they come home are said now to have PTSD. We want to deny the randomness and at the same time find something, other than ourselves, as the cause. There just has to be a cause or you go down the randomness path which leads to PTSD.
What Obama did in this case, and the Left does in all cases, is find for people a scapegoat to attack. A person or thing which is the cause of this random horror. Community Organizing is doing just that. It is what Alinsky is about. Finding and killing the scapegoat to make the bad go away. This trick, which mimics religion, but does so to gain power for the trickster not relief for the “tricked”, is one main reason that the Left resembles a religion. That they always need new scapegoats leads to the democide which is one of the prominent features of their movement.
The randomness that we strive to not see in everyday life strangely enough is also the source of our freedom. If every thing was foreordained by the original conditions of the universe then freedom is just an illusion as all will happen no matter what we think we have decided to do by “choosing,” there being no choice possible.
“What Obama did in this case, and the Left does in all cases, is find for people a scapegoat to attack.”
I don’t want them punished with a baby
If Gosnell had only popped those babies with a .38 special, this story would have been on the news long ago.
A few score of dead kids are worth it to the Democrats!
Linked
Whip Count for Manchin-Toomey Bill Unclear
link
The orangeman
Candy Mancan ’cause he mixes it with love and makes the world taste goodToomey’s the shit in the shit sandwich.
Or the 3rd party in a threesome and not even the semi good kind but the gay kind.
He gets to be the “rotisserie” IYKWIMAITTYD
yeah Toomey’s like a crappy gay guy in a threesome with two other gay guys to where it’s like that chicken where you set it and forget it except with gay sex
plus also he’s in a sandwich
OT:
Schumers is a verb.
So Eric Williams is a member of a “violent white supremacist gang, the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas”, right?
Right. And the media trumpeting that
storypropaganda the last few weeks is out in public — on its knees — wailing mea culpas to the high heavens.As a Minnesotan, Ernst, I know that the democraps in northern ‘sota are supposed to be pro-gun and pro-life, but they vote left everytime, except for a repub in congress for one term in the 2010 tea party year. Even then, it was incredibly close. Last year, the seat went back to another dem. A far-left corrupt one, too. It will take a huge shock to the collective system to get them to change how they vote.
It has been said that any group/foundation eventually will be taken over by the left to be used for their own purposes. Yep. Or maybe they just aren’t as smart as they think they are.
From Geoff’s DC link:
How depressing. I always gave Dave Kopel more credit than that. Apparently he doesn’t know that Schumer is an anti-liberty nut in all its guises.
Considering what the 2nd Amendment Foundation and the CCRKBA are saying about their part in the Schumer-Manchin-Toomey bill something from a link my post needs to be quoted.
Anyone who doesn’t immediately suspect Schumer of bad faith, dishonesty and tyranny could be tempted to buy a bridge.
Saps and maroons.
Heck, the “gun rights group” wouldn’t want to be mean to bereft parents, now would it? Better to surrender first, then hope they can “recover” their rights later.
I belong to CCRKBA and received no such email today.
That would suggest the leadership has its doubts about the popularity of their position with the membership, Jeff.
Regardless, I emailed them and told them to remove me from their rolls, never to email me again, and to sod off. As I noted, I’m embarrassed to have been a part of any “pro gun” organization that is willing to endorse legislation that will give a known anti-gun AG power over the way the 2nd Amendment is applied.
Too, if you find yourself being congratulated by Mayors Against Illegal Guns, you’re doing something wrong.
Of course, this opens the door to GOP defection. All for the few bones thrown gun owners that the amendment uses to entice bi-partisan support of a longterm surrender.
Romney’s tech guys win everything except for the election
Sen. Lee on Toomey-Manchin Gun Deal: ‘Today’s Carve-Outs are Tomorrow’s Loopholes’
Democrat Joe Manchin: Senate Gun Control Bill Will Not Prevent Another Newtown Massacre (Video)
Newrouter, here’s the transcript from Gosnell’s grand jury indictment.
Machin-Toomey Background Check ‘Compromise’ Regulates Transportation of Firearms, Ammunition
I’m as pro-abortion as anyone (and considerably moreso than most of my PW compatriots), but I defy anyone to read that Grand Jury pdf and come away with any reaction other than a full-on Hanover Fist-ian “he should be torn into little pieces and buried alive” rage.
And a whole slew of unnamed PA Dept. of Health officials should given similar fates.
Apalling, ain’t it?
“And a whole slew of unnamed PA Dept. of Health officials should given similar fates.”
rino ridge’s name should be attached to this monster’s name
A different background check proposed amendment.
Sort of OT, I attended an Appleseed event this weekend. One of the first things said there was, “Isn’t it great you live in a country where you can do this?” I strongly recommend you do this … while you can.