This is what is known as “compromise” to a faculty lounge postmodernist President suckled on the mother’s milk of Davis, Piven, Alinsky, Marx, Gramsci, and Ayers.
Just as “President” means “when necessary, dictator.”
And so long as he has a Senate willing to cede its power to the Executive, there’s not a whole lot we can do about it, short of principled resistance.
I’ll leave it to you to decide if this all-out push to disarm you has any connection to the goals of a New Left President, either now or in the future.
Sooner you’re dead, obstreperous peons, the sooner the Man gets some peace and quiet.
I think it’s so cute when otherwise rational people think the rule of law and legislative process still means something in this country.
I say this, because I’ve had discussions with people who still think the President will worry about the mid-term elections, because “Obama doesn’t want to get his own party upset with him.”
The poor fools who argue the President is worried about his own party are ignoring the thuggery and bullying tactics the President will use in order to get his own way. The President doesn’t care about the country. Why does anyone think the President cares about political parties?
By the way, as far as I’m concerned, the rule of law officially died with the non prosecution of David Gregory.
Neil Munro:
*** President Barack Obama’s Jan. 14 press conference included many attacks and much self-praise and numerous contradictory charges — few of which were recognized or highlighted by the reporters that presented the event in terms very favorable to the president.
Republicans “demonize” him, Obama complained, shortly after he declared that Republicans were putting an economic “gun at the head of the American people … [and] threaten to wreck the entire economy.”
“I’m a pretty friendly guy,” he said, not long after suggesting that he would stop checks for veterans and retirees if the GOP didn’t raise the White House’s $16.4 trillion credit limit. ***
If any armed insurgency starts, POTUS currently has enough narrative momentum to quell it by force of arms—with the approval of the world—because those ignernt, racist, sexist, homophobic, hateful, want-kids-to-die-so’s-they-can-play-with-guns rednecks were bound to erupt eventually, and He Really Has No Choice Plus They Had It Coming.
Beck floated the idea this morning that if an armed insurrection got bad enough, he’d call in NATO to back him up.
So much for trusting our own troops to not turn on us: he’ll just go get someone else’s.
“Obama doesn’t want to get his own party upset with him.”
I heard some financial geeeeenius speculate that Obama would tack to the center in his second term because now he doesn’t have to please his base.
The delusion is strong with such a one.
Compromise for thee but not for me.
Rolling around in my head lately is the presumed character of a man who has been handed the complete Cloward Piven tool kit on the ultimate scale. No really: what was once only a dream is now* nearly reality. Let it all burn, says he.
Go ahead, prove that wrong by the available evidence.
You cannot, America.
*edited: “not” = now.
quell it by force of arms
Soviet tankers didn’t, but Chicoms did, wasn’t it?
Roll over their citizens, that is.
Roll over Beethoven
Considering USA=NATO, I’m not too concerned.
NATO does not have force protection capabilities without the USA.
I can already picture the conversation:
POTUS: “Admiral, please swing by Britain, German and France and pick up some of their troops and airplanes for transport to the US. We need their troops because ours have become unreliable.” “By the way, Admiral, please allow the UN and NATO to use a couple of our carriers.”
Admiral: “Are you serious, POTUS?”
POTUS:”Goddamit, get your ass going or you’re fired!”
Admiral:”Send someone to come and get me, SIR.”
force protection should read “force projection”
without his propaganda sluts food stamp would have a really really hard go of it I think
Imagine compromising away American defense capability: It’s easy if you try —
*** Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) said Tuesday he would support President Obama’s nomination of former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.) to head the Defense Department, providing a key swing vote that boosts his chances at confirmation.
Schumer met with Hagel for 90 minutes at the White House on Monday, and said in a statement that the nominee “could not have been more forthcoming and sincere.”
“Based on several key assurances provided by Senator Hagel, I am currently prepared to vote for his confirmation,” Schumer said. “I encourage my Senate colleagues who have shared my previous concerns to also support him.” ***
Consider that Schumer made his political bones on gun control when you think on what assurances may have been passed to sway his vote.
If any armed insurgency starts, POTUS currently has enough narrative momentum to quell it by force of arms
Whose arms? Army and National Guard aren’t going to turn their weapons on their neighbors. I’d be surprised if the majority weren’t part of the uprising. Cops sure ain’t gonna be eager to go door-to-door looking for weapons and insurgents; let’s just say most of these guys are a lot more interested in their retirement benefits than they are their widows and orphans benefits. And as far as NATO goes — are you kidding me? Name one member nation who’d eagerly jump in to an American meat grinder that makes Afghanistan look like a snowball fight. One member who wouldn’t say “internal political matter, Barry; none of our business” quicker than you can blink. Germany? France? Great Britain? Riiiight.
In any fight between a broadcaster with a 50,000 watt transmitter, and an insurgency with 50,000 sharpshooters, I’m going with the guys in the Mossy Oak. And if that day ever comes, most of us really won’t give two shits about the Narrative any more.
we just watched that video Mr. Howard put up about how lots of people are susceptible to fascism and I believe it
and food stamp is counting on it
Right. Foreign troops on American soil for the purpose of violating our Constitutional rights? Target practice.
Considering USA=NATO, I’m not too concerned. NATO does not have force projection capabilities without the USA.
That’s the current configuration. You can posit that our guys won’t turn their guns on us or that the Brits or Frogs wouldn’t dare tread on our soil, but that’s an old paradigm.
The outrages mount bit by bit and we conform to them. IIRC, after Katrina, weren’t the cops seizing weapons (in between looting plasma TVs)? (Or was that another urban legend?)
The narrative that you don’t give two hoots about is the narrative that justifies the Natl. Guard going after the dangerous, dangerous gun-nuts who’ve gone off the deep end and must be put down for the safety of us all. Don’t underestimate the hysteria and irrationality of half the country, as evidenced by whose re-election?
We can’t count on crazy things NOT happening any more. It CAN happen here and there are people who have worked decades to make sure it does. They are as relentless as a bacterial infection and twice as deadly: you don’t know the extent of their spread until it’s nigh on impossible to treat with antibiotics.
Rolling around in my head lately is the presumed character of a man who has been handed the complete Cloward Piven tool kit on the ultimate scale. No really: what was once only a dream is not nearly reality. Let it all burn, says he.
Was that supposed to be “now”? (It’s always the crucial negating word that gets left out.)
When the EBT cards stop working, all bets are off. The rioting will be uncontrollable except by draconian measures, and guess who’s organized enough to exert that kind of control? BTW, that’s why we need an “assault rifle”: to defend against the rioting hordes.
Or the zombie apocalypse, whichever comes first.
It’s not an assault rifle. It’s a general purpose rifle or a sport utility rifle.
Additionally, threat stopper and bad guy putter downer are also acceptable.
not = now, di.
Di is right. Many soldiers and police won’t comply, but many more will. They are trained to do what they are told, no matter the dangers. I think we overestimate what orders soldiers are willing to carry out — and the police did indeed confiscate weapons after Katrina.
But there was little resistance. It is resistance that tends to refocus the mind.
That’s the thing — I’m not talking about dazed and confused survivors of a flooded city, desperate for help and willing to obey an out-of-control tyrannical Sheriff. I’m talking about an armed uprising, presumably made up of people who refuse to obey an out-of-control tyrannical State.
And I’m not sure what “new paradigm” you guys are spinning, but pray tell how it causes the Europeans’ desire or national interest to align with the significant probability of massive casualties among their troops, huge expenses that can’t and won’t be repaid by a bankrupt Washington, and decades of enmity from American patriots and their children’s children’s children.
In any armed insurrection in the United States, the Feds will lose, badly. As Correia put it a few weeks ago: even if 99% of American gun owners decide to go quietly into that good night, that still leaves 800,000 sharpshooters for the Feds to take care of. That’s 800,000 committed souls defending their families, their land, and their liberty. And does anybody really believe that 99% of gun owners are going to submit to a boot on the neck?
No, if the day comes when armed rebellion can no longer be avoided, it’s all over. The best one could hope for is that the dark times be limited, and reconstruction swift.
I think the lessons of Katrina are being misapplied.
I don’t think Katrina is an object lesson in how people will behave if gun confiscation starts. Rather, gun owners have taken Katrina as a lesson in what not to allow.
Government tipped its hand on a small scale and gave fair warning to citizens. Of course, government will be “fighting the last war” and think it can get away with grabbing guns, because of Katrina.
I think gun owners will not allow government to grab guns, because of Katrina.
I think Jeff’s neighbor, the cop, would relish confiscating people’s weapons. I also think there are a lot of cops out there just like him.
Well, naturally. I mean, why should Jeff and other people like him have the same or better weapons than the police? What makes them special?
That’s the practical answer to the question of why one would need a gun, ny gun, that fires more than a half dozen or so times, by the way. For the same reason that the police do –so I can outgun the bad guys, God forbid.
I think Jeff’s neighbor, the cop, would relish confiscating people’s weapons. I also think there are a lot of cops out there just like him.
Only if he were assured that those weapons were unloaded and safely locked away, or if he were assured that one of his brother cops would be the one actually laying hands on the things. And for every five bullies with penis issues, there’s at least one honest, decent guy who’ll put out the warning before the brute squad comes to your neighborhood.
Still, it would behoove one to be well outside the cities before such things came to pass. Far better to have escaped to someplace where you know the deputies by name, and occasionally drink beer with them.
When I was in the USAF, I had a supervisor who was just that sort of self-imagined badass. Then one day we had an exercise that was not noted as being an exercise, which is to say that we got a call to respond to a hostage situation in a hanger, with armed bogeys without disclaimer. That’s when the badass curled into the fetal position and the pussy with the overblown self-preservation instinct came to the fore. The blubbering was simultaneously pathetic, reprehensible and hilarious.
Pushing docile law abiding folks around is one thing but the prospect of actually getting shot tends to focus the mind.