Over the past decade, Hamas had launched thousands of rockets into Israel with one aim: to kill and maim as many Israeli citizens as possible — Israelis at work, at play, asleep in their homes, in their cars. Finally, Israel responded by killing Ahmed al-Jabari, the chief organizer of Hamas violence, the Hamas “military commander” as he was known among Palestinians.
The next day, three more Israelis were killed by rockets.
Then Hamas targeted Tel Aviv, Israel’s most densely populated region, and Israel shelled Hamas rocket launching sites.
In other words, an evil entity made war on a peaceful, decent entity, and the latter responded.
How has the New York Times reported this?
On Friday, on its front page, the Times featured two three-column wide photos. The top one was of Gaza Muslim mourners alongside the dead body of al-Jabari. The photo below was of Israeli Jews mourning alongside the dead body of Mira Scharf, a 27-year-old mother of three.
What possible reason could there be for the New York Times to give identical space to these two pictures? One of the dead, after all, was a murderer, and the other was one of his victims.
The most plausible reason is that the Times wanted to depict through pictures a sort of moral equivalence: Look, sophisticated Times readers, virtually identical scenes of death and mourning on both sides of the conflict. How tragic. […]
As the flagship news source of the left, the New York Times reveals the great moral failing inherent to leftism — its combination of moral relativism and the division of the world between strong and weak, Western and non-Western, and rich and poor, rather than between good and evil.
Nothing to do with Islam, of course; it being a ‘Religion of Peace’.
What a ridiculous statement. The Left IS evil. For the Left to divide the world between good and evil it would have to admit it is evil.
You cannot defeat an enemy that you don’t recognize exists. What an unbelievable clusterfuck.
And there you have it.
So true. What’s 36 dead Palestinian children? 3 dead Isrealis gives them the right to commit terror and murder civilians. The Times is reporting the facts on the ground.
The murder of 3 people is being used to justify a massacre.
palestinians are some sick sick puppies and we give these animals billions of dollars we borrow from the chinese
Dalekhunter comes along and proves the point of the post.
That had to have been a parody. Dalekhunter could not be serious.
daleks are retired indefinitely cause of they got overdone and they were losing their daleky mystique
it happens
Anyone who thinks that the Israelis are the aggressors in any of these incidents is an ignorant fool.
That dude was accused of being a traitor so the Palestinians killed him. Democrats elect traitors to the Senate, so I am not sure if it is fair comparing Palestinians to Democrats.
“What’s 36 dead Palestinian children?”
A good start?
Jew > Palestinian
It’s a theme-song. Very old lyrics.
Greetings:
Islam is the millstone. If your plan doesn’t include constraining, undermining, or eradicating Islam, you don’t have a plan. What you have is a hope.
Every “Islamist” that comes down the camel path tells us that what he does and wants done is what the Koran requires of him, and yet what the West has for leaders these sorry days continue to bend over backwards to reinforce the “Religion of Peace” propaganda. A while back I was watching one of those real crime news program and the prosecutor was going on about motive and opportunity. Well, for all those Islamaniacs extant, the Koran is their motivation and they are just looking for their or any opportunity.
When Eastern Europe and Russia fell out from under the Marxist-Leninist yoke, it was because that failed ideology had be so constrained militarily and politically and so undermined as to be laughable, that its eradication was the only viable alternative. Yet, even Israel’s leaders refuse to connect the ideological dots and hold Islam and all its intendant nonsense up to public ridicule.
More than ten years after the worst terrorist attack in America’s history, we are still trying to whistle past the graveyard that is Islam.
If Hamas puts down the gun, there will be peace.
If Israel puts down the gun, there will be no Israel.
Hamas TV after Tel Aviv bus bomb: “Allah willing, we will soon see black body bags”
most islams are super nice people but for sure the palestinian ones aren’t they’re rotten inside
icky gross palestinians we really need to send out the giant robot on their pitiful rotten asses
They aren’t nice people, happy. They’re misogynists, even the Westernized ones.
no no no you need to make an effort to meet the normal ones that are nice and sweet as anybody you’d ever hope to meet
one thing I love about them I will tell you
They never get pissy when you tell them merry Christmas, least not in my experience
They’re pricks, happy. I’ve been around a lot of them in social and work settings for over 30 years.
Back in the 70s, a lot of my girlfriends dated Iranians because they had money and bought them stuff and girls are materialistic that way. I never went out with any because I saw how they courted these girls, bedded them, and then tossed them aside like they were trash. The Iranian guys collected girls like charms on a bracelet.
My best friend from childhood married a Lebanese. He’s a good guy and they’ve been together for a long, long time BUT he is a Catholic.
Anyway, Muslims are whiny slackers at work and sulking bitch-slapping guys at home.
Ask P. He can tell you about his domineering boyfriend.
The excuse for the moral equivalence is that War Kills Children And Other Living Things. Ergo, War is Bad, and every good reader of the Times knows that they should deplore it. They know this because the Times’ editors remind them regularly.
It wasn’t always this way. Sophisticated people used to understand that sometimes war is necessary to prevent even worse things:
But of course, everybody knows that there never was a knuckle-dragging Bible-thumping cousin-humping Budweiser-swilling NASCAR-watching ignorant uneducated racist sexist hillbilly redneck warmonger worse than John Stuart Mill.
Prager writes:
“What a ridiculous statement[,] StrangernFiction observes. “The Left IS evil. For the Left to divide the world between good and evil it would have to admit it is evil.”
That’s were the relativism comes in, to “problematize” away the difference between agression and self-defense. I would also caution against accepting Prager’s mistaken argument. The Left does divide the world into good and evil.
Just not the same way that we do.
I don’t suppose Dalekhumper will return to explain to us how “skulking irregulars launching missiles from one apartment building into another apartment building” is not terrorism, while “uniformed soldiers launching missiles from a military installation into an apartment building that was converted into a military installation by skulking irregulars” is terrorism.
Because oppression and noble savages and one man’s freedom fighter
But you already knew that, didn’t you?
Yeah, they’re just poor victimized, misunderstood Muslims, and mean no one any harm.
So, what’s wrong with a little ethnic cleansing, right dalek? They’re only Jooos after all, right?
Only one side celebrates the bombing & killing of the other, thinks decapitating an infant in its crib (along with the rest of its family) is great, and is now seen dragging suspected spies down the street.
As for the ratio of Palestinians to Israeli lives, it’s the Palestinians who established this when they demand the release of 100s of their people in exchange for a few IDF captives. They’re also the ones who think it’s honorable to sacrifice the lives of their children as suicide bombers in order to kill Israelis.
How does Israel make peace with people who will only be satisfied with their death & destruction?
The fact remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings. The idea of Hamas using “human shields” breaks down when the IDF kills them. They are not shields when they amount to dead civilians. With a roughly 60% civilian kill rate as per
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57551631/israels-assault-on-palestinian-militants-in-gaza-takes-rising-toll-on-civilians/
It’s unjustifiable and really makes me wonder who is trying to wipe who “off the map”
– One of these days someones going to get fed up enough with the internal anti-american activitiesm and wall to wall propaganda, and do a little ethnic cleansing at the NYT.
It’s unjustifiable and really makes me wonder who is trying to wipe who “off the map”
removing the palis would solve the missile problem
I guess Jews are just expected to die.
Probably in order to prove their moral superiority.
Fucking idiot.
It’s unjustifiable and really makes me wonder who is trying to wipe who “off the map”
No, you don’t (wonder). You know perfectly well there’s nothing but evidence against the proposition. That is, presuming you’re not entirely a moron.
Sorry, Dh, but Palestinian civilians wouldn’t die if the cowardly Pali ‘warriors’ didn’t attack first then hide behind them.
Oh, and Gilad Sharon: #FlattenGaza
dalek, you need to familiarize yourself with the laws of war. Those civilian casualties are on Hamas, not Israel. When apartment buildings are being used for combat purposes, they’re legitimate targets. However, using civilian facilities for combat purposes is a war crime.
That’s a difficult presumption to maintain in light of the evidence on display.
I prefer to think of him or her as a liar. It’s not that big a stretch.
– Ok, so a truce has been brokered in the ME. Of course the poor put upon Pali’s xontinue to fire rockets at Israel, but its only fair you see. The Progressives have said so.
That works for me, too
Hamas started things by launching missiles into Israel, yet, Israel is the bad guy because they are fighting back.
Hamas is firing missiles into Israel at random targets, not caring if they kill civilians. Yet, Israel is the bad guy, because civilians are killed during attempts by the IDF to kill enemy combatants.
Dalek, you are incredibly stupid or evil. Probably both.
– The Islamist nutbags keep warring on Israel, and keep getting their extremist asses kicked. Apparently they’ll only finally stop the aggression when there’s too few left to act out anymore.
The fact remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings.
No, they are not. When Hamas launches missiles from an apartment building, it becomes a military installation. Technically, it’s a military installation when the armaments and combatants first arrive there, but it isn’t usually revealed as a military site until the missiles are launched.
IDF is not knocking down apartment blocks just for shits and giggles; that’s Hamas’ schtick. IDF is taking out sites from which attacks are launched against their territory, and it is the exact same reaction that any sovereign nation would take under the circumstances. Do you honestly believe that America, if a bunch of crazy Quebecois separatists started lobbing artillery over Lake Champlain, would just tell Vermonters to get used to it?
As Pablo notes above: when military leaders put their missile sites and their headquarters in densely-populated civilian areas, the collateral damage that inevitably results is the fault of those leaders, not those who target them.
I suspect that you’re ineducable, and that our words are wasted on such as you. They remain arguments worth stating, if only so that others might be informed, and thereby become less likely to fall prey to your specious “reasoning” in the future.
Peace in her time.
“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”
-Golda Meir (with a nod to Mark Levin, who mentioned the quote in his show yesterday.)
Great! a cease-fire. Now Hamas can call up Iran and order more better missiles, since those they bought couldn’t crack the Iron Dome.
Lick your wounds, Palis, but I’ll bet you’ll do the same stupid shit over again soon enough.
Corruptocrat Jesse Jr. is evidently on his way out the door. Will he be passing into a jail-cell? Ha! Not bloody likely.
The fact remains that the uniformed soldiers are firing missiles into apartment buildings.
As long as it is being done according to the Geneva Convention, what’s the problem?
“Will he be ” sworn in in Jan. having resigned this Nov.? He was re-elected after all.
I guess not if...
Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Having observed their obvious dislike for “fags,” shouldn’t we conclude that Fred Phelps’s clan has been deeply and horribly wronged by homosexuals over a course, perhaps, of generations?
Otherwise, how to account for such deep-seated hostility? Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, right? Shouldn’t we stop returning their hatred and start looking at root causes? Shouldn’t we exercise some ordinary compassion and try to see things for their side? Why exclude, out of hand, that they really HAVE been wronged by gays?
“Egypt is assuming the responsibility and leadership that has long made this country a cornerstone of international peace,” Clinton said.
Oh, quite so. International peace. Cornerstone.
The Left does divide the world into good and evil.
They divide the world into oppressors and the oppressed, and they figure that the ostensibly oppressed people have the right to fight back against their oppressors.
It’s a power thing, full stop. There’s no moral standard that they would call good or evil; they just agitate to take away power from the powerful and grab it for themselves, or if not for themselves directly, then for other “have nots” worldwide, with whom they identify.
The Palestinians are “have nots” simply because Israel prospers on the same land that they failed on. The entire Muslim world is a festering cesspool because they do not have a social or political order that supports prosperity (the Kurds being the exception that proves the rule).
They can’t blame themselves because they’re an honor/shame society: if someone else’s success makes you look bad (shaming) you have to get your honor back by humiliating or destroying that someone.
They have a longstanding conviction that the Jews (and Jewish-controlled America) have ruined their lives. They lash out to recover their lost honor from those who make them look bad. Under no circumstances will they self-examine or attempt to forge their own path to prosperity.
Most of the children have been humiliated through sexual abuse and God knows what else; they grow up with the rage that engenders, and because they can’t lash out at their parents or relatives or teachers, they have to find another scapegoat, and that scapegoat is the Jews.
They’re a sick, twisted society. They’re the Westboro Baptist Church of the world. Any pity you might have for them is soon washed away by their despicable behavior.
Oh, one more thing, Dalekhunter: are you familiar with the little-sister gambit? It consists of little sister tormenting her older sibling incessantly until that sibling pops the little sister in the face, who then runs sobbing to mommy in the hopes of getting older sibling in trouble.
The idea of Hamas using “human shields” breaks down when the IDF kills them. They are not shields when they amount to dead civilians.
The Palis WANT those human shields to die, ya moron. They’re glorious martyrs who instantly inherit paradise and whose corpses serve as effective weapons of propaganda. They’ve been firing those rockets into Israel for the express purpose of provoking Israel into firing back and killing them, because they would rather have the global sympathy that those martyred corpses provide than to have the living people.
They themselves say that they love death more than we love life, and they’re enormously proud of that. They use human shields because they will get one of two results:
(a) Constrained by its decency, Israel doesn’t fire back or doesn’t take out the armaments, leaving the Palis to continue lobbing bombs with impunity.
(b) Israel does fire back, creating glorious martyrs, and Israel is condemned by the rest of the world. Again.
Nobody ever takes the Palis to task for using human shields in the first place. Nobody tells them that if they want to stop taking casualties, they could, you know, stop bombing Israel.
Why can’t you see how twisted your reaction is? Why are you happy with a moral compass that points due south?
Why can’t you see how twisted your reaction is? Why are you happy with a moral compass that points due south?
– Because, like dogs licking their own balls, they can.
– The Left needs to stake out the indecent, inhumane, asocial ground, because its all they have, and not a few of them, particularly their most militant members, like it that way, being hated and reviled.
– Its what they do. Its what they are.
– The over-riding theme in everything they do is counter-culture, chaos, and anarchy. Its the only way they can survive for very long, and they know it.
And yet, the left continues to clamor for us to compromise with them. How can we compromise with people who have no principles?
Groundhog day starts again.
Lovin’ every word of it!
Another commonality with the Left.
Compromise is a pseudosynonym for surrender.
Why can’t you see how twisted your reaction is? Why are you happy with a moral compass that points due south?
Look, it’s the Evan Sayet speech made flesh.
Dalek hearts terrorists and, shockingly, hates him some jooooooooooooos.
Do you know the Arab word for “cease fire”?
“Reload.”
As I have said before, how do you compromise with someone who wants you to leave?
What do you negotiate? How long you have to pack? How far away you have to move?
How big a mess you can leave behind and still get your deposit back?
Check out the poster here:
http://maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com/archives/21028-Morning-here,-Afternoon-there,-Gaza-Update.html
Says it all.
“Look at the Westboro Baptist Church. Having observed their obvious dislike for “fags,” shouldn’t we conclude that Fred Phelps’s clan has been deeply and horribly wronged by homosexuals over a course, perhaps, of generations?”
No, I think the extension of the normal logic is that anyone who dislikes, hates, fears or has any ambivalence for homosexuals or the homosexual agenda is solely motivated by a self hatred of their own secretly gay self. Chic-Fil-A is a gay chicken restaurant.
Therefore we can safely conclude that all violence and discrimination intentionally targeted against LBGT is perpetrated by other LBGT who hate themselves, want to keep their LBGT nature a secret, and disassociate themselves it by proxy.
So hate crimes against BGT community is entirely an LBGT problem.
I denounce myself. I forgot to add the Q.E.D.
Who would allow a pack of wild, rabid dogs to run through their neighborhoods with impunity?
And yet we have the Palestinians.
“Hamas not only tries to kill Israeli civilians but doesn’t care about killing fellow Palestinians.”
From Caroline Glick, a short video of a pro-Hamas anti-Israel protest in Israel interrupted by a rocket warning siren: note the useful idiots scattering for safety.
Is Jessie jr getting his disability.
Disability?
Damn.
Is Jesse Jr getting his disability?
For since he did desert
Does his desert he make receipt
A desert, barren . . . vast:
Himself himself to relieve.
Jesse Jr. can’t start collecting that disability until he’s 62, from what I read. He’s got a while to wait.
I am still trying to process the fact a Chicago Democrat resigned because of ethics issues. Has that happened before?
The irony, it burns of pepper spray…
I’d’ve paid to watch that. With a tub of popcorn.
Koran-Burning Pastor Terry Jones Tells TheBlaze About a New Anti-Islam Film Set to Portray Muhammad as a ‘Child Molester, Assassin & Self-Proclaimed Prophet’
orangeman speaks
House GOP is angling to repeal health care
Re: serr8d 3:52pm
Blue on blue action and I see the normal tactic of the side which was in the minority of walking out so a quorum wouldn’t be present which was expected and brought to failure. Popcorn indeed.
And in my State the City Council of Detroit goes with the activists and votes against getting $30 million from the State to tide them over till the Jan. property taxes come in.
Regular fiscal conservatives huh?
Stunner… Hamas Fires Twelve Missiles Into Israel an Hour After Ceasefire …Update: 20 Missiles Fired
Flunking the test.
OT but the other thread is kind of worn, the V Man brings a great rant and interesting strategery:
http://www.velociworld.com/Velociblog/Oldvelocity/004017.html
Obama pushed Israel to accept Egyptian cease-fire agreement friendly to Hamas
Sue the EPA,
nah just declare their latest boiler mact(co2 emissions) invalid within their state because co2 isn’t a pollutant.
RE: Hams fires missles into Israel an Hour after ceasefire.
What’s that they say? Punch back twice as hard?
I think someone mentioned something about leveling city blocks earlier.
Dalekhunter approves of defensive Pali missile attacks on civilians after a cease fire is in effect. That is how he rolls.
– So then, can we expect a new offering from Fisher-Price this year, just in time for the holidays…..
– Fondle-me Elmo?
FTFY. Odd how you didn’t point out the whole truth in your little screed of Offended Outrage!™ towards those nasty people you hate so much. Oh well, others filled in the gaps for, well, not you since you’re a small-minded fanatic.
HTH. HAND.
Close. It’s “Hudna.”
“Chic-Fil-A is a gay chicken restaurant.”
How do they know the gay ones from the straight ones?
No, the restaurant itself is gay. It’s like Amityville horror but with delicious chicken smells instead of blood on the walls. And the bathrooms are cleaner.
“Chic-Fil-A is a gay chicken restaurant.”
pork-fil-a is a muzzie restaurant
This sort of savagery is not new to Palestine. They have been doing this to their own well before Israel was created. This is why there is no dissent, any voice of cooperation or acomodation with Israel would meet this fate. Yasser Arafat himself told Bill Clinton he could not go beyond what he agreed to because he would be killed if he did so. Until Palestinians give up this cult of death, there will be no peace. And Gold Meir said it well many years ago…
Amen.
Egypt makes a show. In doing so, do they fail to see how they point to everything they’ve either missed or intentionally allowed to flow through? Who would fall for this tripe?
“And the bathrooms are cleaner.”
OMG,
They also sell Waffle fries and lemonade. It’s like some kind of Broadway musical lampooning Southern traditions.
Well Danger, since the south is homophobic the south must be gay as well.
Rhetorical questions should not be that depressing.
The CNN crawl at Frank’s in Fayetteville, where a man can get a helluva martini, with some I can’t believe its from around here baklava said Obama “closed the deal”. The bartender Greg, who was just telling me about the surfboard rack he had on the side of his bicycle said, “bet he stuck it up netynahu’s ass huh?” I was pretty damned proud of Greg!
Yeah, Donald … Obama & Hillary got peace in their time.
:::spit:::
Leftists aren’t as stupid as you think. They know who’s who and what’s what, they just want to get vicarious pleasure out of murdering Jews without having to admit it.
Pretty much like the rest of the left’s murderousness for the last two and a half centuries – let us slaughter, let us deflect blame.
I also don’t suppose he will ever acknowledge that only the first of those is against the Geneva Conventions as “perfidy”, and that when the first happens, the second action is specifically authorized as legitimate military action under those same Conventions so that the actual violators do not profit by their violation.
Dalekhumper is an ignorant endorser of murdering Jews without the guts to actually say so.
I learned today from my TV,
I’m just a twisted maggot.
I’m a racist, jew-controlled,
Homophobic faggot.
A homophobic faggot!
I want black peeps to be slaves
To lower all my taxes.
I want the planet earth to die
For IC bulbs and faxes.
For IC bulbs and faxes.
I only hate the brown folks
‘Cause I long to steal their oil
And when I didn’t steal it
It made San Francisco boil.
It made San Francisco boil.
Oh, I need to go camping
So my mind can be redeemed:
Updated to the latest spec
Or copper jacket reamed.
Or copper jacket reamed.
What happened to the comments? I left one last night, and it seems to have departed.
It’s almost as if we’re being periodically truncated to 100. Which kind of makes sense, now that I think of it.