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Obama is a terrorist. There, that’s out of the way.
The more debates the easier it gets to make an Informed Choice I think
baracky is a “man caused disaster”
what wine goes with “Informed Choice”
Buuuuuuuuuuuush!!!!!!!1!!!
Probably a scotch I think
bob’s wearing a red tie
Schiefer is doing the “Moderating for Mentally Challenged” act.
How far in before Schieffer performs a verbal Heimlich on President Obama?
split screen Obama glaring already!
Romney doesn’t have it on the Middle East.
They aren’t extremists.
They are orthodox.
Romney for the pre-emptive strike on the killing of Osama.
“we can’t kill out way out of this”
heh … just pulled a rug out from under O
Obama doing stump speech and lying about AQ and Libya
Barry’s kept us safe? Chris Stevens was unavailable for comment.
dead amb. chris is looking for his protection
Barry is talking too fast and pointing a lot.
Now he’ telling Mitt what Mitt’s FP is.
Wrong.
Obama bringing up FrankenRomney … arguing against his caricature of Romney
That motherfucker Obama just lied about Libya…took steps to secure the safety of personnel? Excuse me? The administration did absolutely nothing and the press has already reported that fact.
Come on Romney, nail Obama on that lie.
Obama snarks about Russia
yes, show us how likeable you are Won
yea we’ve seen your execution baracky
Barry is dismissing Romney as a dinosaur. “Back to the 50s” When did Mitt ever say that?
How Romney talks about “flexibility” with Russia … heh
wrong wreckless is baracacky’s me policy
So Romney has been wrong with every foreign policy topic. Every single one. O’s just being silly.
Haymaker from Mittt.
Obama is calling Romney out for identifying Russia as a geopolitical threat moreso than Al Qaeda…about as logical as high energy prices indicating a strong economy.
good for you mittens on putin
WOOOOOOHOOOO!! Romney said it!
you got to be clear hahahaha
Obama has learned to be CLEAR????
WHAM!
Putin!!!
That’s gonna leave a mark.
Obama just conflated the threat of Al Qaeda with Russia being the biggest threat.
There’s a difference..and Obama just keeps talking over Romney.
Yo mama, bitch!
O’s losing track.
So many talking points….
I wonder how many times O is going to remind us that he’s Command in Chief.
Jimminy, Barry’s a stuttering something or other. A sad looking and stupid stuttering something or other.
How many headstones read “They Waited for the International Community”, Barry?
Just damn. Sad.
Barry is trying to shoehorn in his “interest” in Israel.
Fuck off with that.
Obama talks about the “international community” a lot.
So O is basically arguing for the exact opposite of his Libya policy in Syria, for all the reasons people argued against that very policy in Libya.
Choom!
Obama back to maddogging Mitt
weird
Mitt finding his groove … he teaches rather than lectures
He wants to organize it, Blake. Only gig bigger than being Prez.
Short Obama:
It’s bad to give heavy weapons to Syrian rebels.
But we’ll shit a billion dollars worth of theater conventional weapons to topple Gaddafi.
No chance we’ll need two hundred cruise missiles in say, Georgia or Iran next year or two.
Libya stands with us?
What?
“we knew who we were dealing with” just ask stevens
They don’t put headstones on mass graves.
Is it ok for Mitt to bitch slap O?
If Mitt can avoid a “no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe” moment, I think he’ll be golden. This is putting people to sleep.
I think he is, EBL.
That so-called “Democratically elected” government in Egypt has repudiated the treaty with Israel, last I heard.
Domestic policy begats foreign policy.
Yes, Romney brings up O!’s betrayal of Eastern Europe
“My plan” obama sez
WHERE IS IT?
Obama “eat the rich!”
bush/cheney
or is it begets.
mittens exits fp goes domestic
Wow, that Obama can pile on the platitudes. All lies, of course, but they sound great!
Is that an assertionmonkey President we see sitting there? Sure sounds like one.
Mitt needs to step up the debunking. He’s not going to win this without calling out the failure.
more teachers!!11!!
He’s asking you to beat his ass, Mitt.
So?
Assertionmonkey’s squeezy voice is funny.
Talking points and bagging on Mitt’s record as Gov.
Mitt debunks.
baracky obnoxious clown
Obama trying to rattle Mitt with interruptions
Mitt “Mr President you got that fact wrong”
Mitt do not let Obama jump in.
You’re kinda screwed when you won’t talk real about money, huh Mitt?
Obama trots out the lie of $5 trillion in taxcuts
military spending and every other program goes up every year base line barry
“Work with our Joint Chiefs of Staff” is more like put in place lackey JCs who know how to go with my program, but hey, what sensible tyrant wouldn’t?
Math is not O’s strong suit.
Obama is talking about “our budget”
what is that? Obama has never had one budget that got one vote and Dem Senate is 1000 days plus without a budget
baracky hasn’t seen a budget in 3 years
Um naval ships = horses???
Horses are bayonets are ships.
Except I would bet you we have more bayonets now than we had in 1916.
Smart-assing in a FP debate, Barry?
Bad idea.
effin’ military strategist baracky speaks
O stands with Israel.
Right.
like you “stood” with stevens
Obama is equivocating about Israel!! whoa
Are they getting any of these mysterious points for the number of times they repeat talking points?
Are there points awarded for synchronization, like with Olympic diving duos?
On the issue of an attack on Israel being an attack on the US….no, O, you haven’t made that clear throughout your presidency.
Somebody fill me in; is Romney landing any punches here or is this all just a slanted review of the last four years I’m hearing?
mitt, that is not the point O made.
Somebody fill me in; is Romney landing any punches here
According to Hewitt, Mitt is destroying Obama. I realize that doesn’t provide any insight into the situation, but it’s true.
“newrouter says October 22, 2012 at 7:46 pm
like you “stood” with stevens”
No no, Hillary obligingly fell on that sword already. Obama is now innocent of such skullduggery.
Mitt is looking like the President, JHo.
Barry is looking like an intern.
Sorry to poop in the punch bowl, but if you’re a low-information voter, seeing your first debate, Romney looks tentative, while Obama looks convinced. Romney looks skittish, while the President looks, well, for once, Presidential.
Look at how often Romney talks about agreeing with the President, and how often the President congratulates Romney for agreeing with him.
This is a complete *disaster* for Romney, and we have 45 minutes to go. Dear Lord! How much more like a lamb to the slaughter does Romney have to look before they call it off, just out of pity?
This is the moment where Republicans, once again, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
throw apartheid in baracky’s face
Low information voters aren’t watching this.
thanx concerned troll
I’m kind of hating them both right now, but Obama is so into the condescension and the deatil free generalizations that Romney looks like he knows a whole lot more about foreign policy issues. Obama looks like a confused fake trying to bluff his way past a sleepy professor who doesn’t care in an oral exam.
You know, I am responding to selected pundits on Twitter with devastatingly funny responses, but none of them are responding to ME.
#highlyinsulted
Yes. This is a nice pleasant review of a pack of lies, but it’s still a nice review.
” it was really hard work” says grifter
“charlesaustin says October 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm
Low information voters aren’t watching this.”
Yup. Foreign policy is not a LIV friendly topic. LIV’s are watchin’ some football right now.
Sorry to poop in the punch bowl, but if you’re a low-information voter, seeing your first debate, Romney looks tentative, while Obama looks convinced. Romney looks skittish, while the President looks, well, for once, Presidential.
Look at how often Romney talks about agreeing with the President, and how often the President congratulates Romney for agreeing with him.
I agree with this. If I came from Mars to watch this debate, I’d wonder if they were trying to come to an agreement rather than to put daylight between oneself and the other guy.
batboy
“petulance” is not presidential and O has been acting like a snot-nosed kid who doesn’t want to give up his place at the adult table at Thanksgiving.
mittens calling out baracky’s supporters: castro et al
Romney brings up the apology tour and Obama grimmaces
Bob led off with Libya and I about let out a whoop. Nope; squandered.
The rest of this has me thinking Romney’s team told him to just play it safe. He may have (had) the election in the bag but this is a blown chance to ice it. Judas Priest…
Perception has a way of becoming reality.
You may not like it – I certainly hate it – but it is so.
Romney is blowing it, this night. I *hate* it, but that’s what’s happening.
I’ll vote for Romney, but with a heavy heart, and in complete expectation of defeat.
Sorry, but he blew it, this night.
If i were President Low Information voters would not be allowed to vote, even if they showed proper ID.
baracky will lie on national tv no problem
I’m seeing a guy with as glib a set of talking points as Romney, Derleen. I don’t see petulance at all. I see determination, the appearance of counterpoint, and quick responses.
Lies through the roof, but lies sell.
batboy stfu concerned troll
Now drive Apology Tour over the cheap seats, Mitt.
Nope, Barry steals the meme and diverts it. This is classic salesmanship bullshit. And folks will buy it. In the morning we’ll be taling about who won the debate and 90% of it’ll be on appearances. Optics. Andy Sullivan is already hard.
“They noticed you skipped Israel”
Ah! “Shut up!” he explained.
Think any of the fact checkers will contradict his Wonness on Romney being always wrong about everything or everything he says not being true? Everything!
Is there a more magnificent glower in all the world?
Except for the, uh, agreeing with Obama.
when i was a “candidate” i went to israel
Obama attempting to prove his Israel creds with the only visit he’s ever been to Israel over 4 years ago.
LIV’s are watchin’ some football right now.
They are not alone.
Mitt dismisses the gotcha hypothetical. Good for him!
batboy says October 22, 2012 at 7:57 pm
Ah! “Shut up!” he explained.
no go over to the spin room clown
Now Mitt’s finally clicking along…
Romney did a great job hammering Obama on the World Wide Apology tour.
Obama back to boilerplate …
mittens is “all over the map” ax hilarity she be there too
I killed Bin Laden!
Slap O now
Barry had strawmen painted on the insides of his eyes before getting in the car tonight.
I think I will bate “newrouter” for a bit. She seems to be getting a bit hysterical, and there is no more fun to be had in the world than a powerless shrieking harridan.
Romney let some outright lies go by, but did a good job with the World Wide Apology tour.
“those who harm us to justice” ax stevens
Bin Laden Dance in the NFL u would get a flag
Obama just sounded like Bart Simpson with the pots trying to get attention. : “I got Bin Laden. BANG BANG BANG I am so great. BANG BANG BANG. I am so great! BANG BANG BANG. “
“I killed Osama! I killed Osama! I killed Osama!”
He figures he can dine on that for four more years.
This is morose. I don’t see anyone, much less a LIV making much of this one way or the other.
One supposes bin Laden’s death was optimal.
I think I will bate
rub it somewhere else please
“well, that’s probably true…”
Romney cedes to Scheiffer.
“batboy says October 22, 2012 at 8:02 pm
I think I will bate “newrouter” for a bit. She seems to be getting a bit hysterical, and there is no more fun to be had in the world than a powerless shrieking harridan.”
Ooh! NR’s beign offered a handy from the bat boy. Where’s the weekly world News when you need ’em? Or maybe batboy meant bait?
Better off than he was four years ago, batboy.
My wife has been watching the last 20 minutes and she thinks Obama is killing it. The lies go over well for people who only get their news from Big Media.
“Darleen says October 22, 2012 at 8:04 pm
“I killed Osama! I killed Osama! I killed Osama!”
He figures he can dine on that for four more years.”
I’m sure that everyone in Hawaii or Chicago will pay him handsomely to talk about it.
I like Obama’s assertions that have no supporting evidence.
Bogged down? Bull-fucking shit we were bogged down.
Ah, so AQ now knows to keep killing Americans from now through 2014, so when the US leaves, they can be at the airport, waving goodbye, and claiming victory.
I KILLED OBL!!11!!
Schiefer ain’t gonna corner Obama with any tough stuff.
Obama is gonna lie, lie, lie to no ill consequence – too late to debunk much even if it mattered.
Romney is not going to go heavy on substance, instead focusing on looking competent and positive.
This debate coming so late is another example of how the Repubs let themselves get gamed so badly in the whole process.
“we need to spend money we don’t have here NOW”
Barry’s got everything timed to hinge on October 2012. It’s all turning around right now, folks!
That is some confidence. That’s leadership.
When will an American President say “Fuck with us, and we will turn the Arab world to glass, from Casablanca to Lahore, and not regret the effort”?
Obama bin Laden. Love it.
“obama’s bin laden” bob
Mitt has done his homework.
All the troops killed at Ft. Hood were killed in an act of “workplace violence.”
So, no Purple Hearts, not benefits.
Nuke Pakistan! Nuke Pakistan! With their beady little eyes, and their heads all full of lies.
Oh! Sorry! Don’t blame Pakistan!
What a wimp!
Was it ever been settled concerning penalties for shooting down a domestic drone?
Mitt supports The Won’s use of drones! The no-process killing of Americans!
You misspelled points, BT…
Stood with the Iranian Greens Barry? NO, you didn’t.
baracky: me!!11!!
A regular fucking Audie Murphy here. Boy, what an honor.
batboy
Mitt said drones against enemies abroad nothing about domestic use.
Egypt, Libya, Syria; Barry’s stood for liberty.
Assuming you mean covertly establishing a new set of regimes.
If Mitt doesn’t slap his cock down on the table and knock over Shieffer’s glass of water, batboy says it’s a loss.
Mitt supports The Won’s use of drones!
oh please shut up. you have no insight on this “debate”
ooooOOOOO a “task force”!! that’ll teach ’em
Which these days is a horrible position to get behind anyway.
Barry keeps talking crap about China and they’re gonna call in their loans.
Islamists around the world are watching this fiasco, and laughing.
Based on this, The Won will win reelection, and Islamists around the world will be free to kill Americans.
America, meanwhile will run out of people to borrow from, and the first time EBT cards don’t work, the country will descend into chaos.
I think Romney is agreeing with Obama’s policies too much instead of bitch slapping him like when Obama went all Patty Murray about Egypt wanting day care centers and other liberal crap.
Obama lied about Gaddafi having more blood on his hands than anyone but Bin Laden. How about Iran, dickhead, with their penetrator IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Mitt needs to slap him now
I looked in on the football game and was underwhelmed. Anybody know how the baseball game is going?
Cheap Chinese tires!
It’s come to this.
And Mitt will let him get away with a raped and murdered American ambassador.
“Government doesn’t create jobs”
yes!
Giants are beating Cardinal ass, McGehee.
Bears have dominated the first half but only lead 10-0.
Giants rolling 7-0 through 6 innings.
SF 7-0 6th
Nuclear Iran is a worry……
But wait! China!……
Mitt actually did well on China.
Bob, we’re in a trade war now. We just aren’t fighting.
The question was about China, batboy.
Nuts. Looks like Frisco goes to the World Series again. They don’t even know how to stage a proper victory riot.
Bob, you old coot, “trade war” is code for not demanding a dollar you can man up with.
Oh.
America is not at war.
The Marine Corps is at war.
America is at the Mall.
I want to know why Romney hasn’t pointed out just bad the Middle East has become since Obama took office.
Oh fuck you and “American workers”, Barry. Liar.
CLASS WARFARE!!!!!
Talking points! Obama is expired.
Romney should cut him up pretty good on exports – especially GM building factories in China.
When did China start buying Chevy Volts?
I’ve seen turnarounds against wider leads, but this game has two disadvantages for my attention: it’s NFL, and I don’t give a shit about either team.
Did GM build more cars in America or in China last year?
We can’t all be born Bear’s fans.
Pacific power? U mean Pacificia Mr. President?
OMG!!!! The Won has made a bet on American industry! MY ASS!!!
The Won has made a bet on unions that plow that money back into the Democrat Party.
We won’t hear this rebuttal from Romney.
They want to use the batteries to make iPhone battery life even crappier.
“America is at the Mall.”
No, the retail numbers show that America is not at the mall and in fact a lot of malls are shutting down.
Shieffer’s dircting Jug ears to keep him on track and from stepping on his dick. It may help him in one respect but it makes him look weak.
Bummlefuck is an endless tape, the same as hes been for 4 years, but nothing gets done, or if he does something its always a mess.
Its funny how often Obama is pimping his “record” left and right in this debate, hoping the clock will run out before all the lies are exposed. Lying douchebag.
mittens calls baracky silly
Obama is being a dickhead again
oh wait, he’s rarely NOT a dickhead
Why is Schieffer just letting Jugears interupt?
The trade imbalance is a function of currency imbalance is a function of fiat currency is a function of our demanding to be so impossibly leveraged is a function of globalist crony capitalism.
In other words China can simply afford to beat our ass.
Jesus! How dumbassed how Mitt’s talking points get!
Barry looks like the Joker
…aaaaaand I just checked and this debate is two hours instead of 90 minutes. AYSM!!??
more teachers !!11!!
At least Romney brought up Tesla, Solyndra and Fisker.
Schieffer is minding his p’s and q’s. As leftists go he’s been relatively calm.
Oh no he didn’t. He just talked about Romney making the deficit worse.
I’m at 86 minutes of total Republican fail.
Five percent of this televised debacle is actually pertinent to humans living in reality.
Booosh.
Romney needs to mention that Government Motors is about to go belly up again.
batboy, give it a rest.
Anyone else freaked out by Obama’s constant glare?
No mention of Fast & Furious…disappointed.
Less jobs more debt Mr President
I have to give Romney credit for hanging in there. Hard to debate someone who lies with such aplomb.
I have to wait until 11pm my time to find out how ludicrously the BSM will spin this as an Obama win?
(Sorry batboy, but you’re not authoritative enough to declare it thus, even if you had waited until it was over.)
Mitt beats up on O’s record and how teachers aren’t a cure-all.
Hey, Obama can count up to three..who knew?
They’re done McGehee.
All three of these guys are Establishmentarians. Kinda limiting.
So, the debates are:
#1: Valium Obama, vs Awake Romney
#2: Calm Ryan, vs Amphetamine Joe
#3: Calm Romney, vs Obnoxious Obama
#4: Fortress Obama, vs Feckless Romney
It’d be a draw, I suppose, except for the gale of MSM support beneath The Won’s wings.
Advantage Obama. Especially with the desperation at the end of Romney’s blathering.
Yeah how does hiring teachers cure thousands of little gangbangers and dysfunctional morons being utterly unable to function in society.
In this closing statement Barry is actually running against his own record. Remarkable. Andy Sullivan is still hard.
Ya gotta work with what ya got, JHo.
“Solyndra is not R&D” that’s a quote that needs to be repeated
O’s closing remarks – he predicates his continued office on “real progress over the last four years” and CLASS WARFARE.
Not a winner. Oh. Wait. TALKING POINTS CLASS WARFARE TALKING POINTS. Reduce hahahahahaha the deficit. CLASS WARFARE. Talking points. Talking points. He’s trying to channel 2008.
Where’s the PLAN, Barry?
Did Obama say as Commander In Chief he would keep a strong military, support our troops, but…
i look at baracky’s nose and wonder if he uses $100 for the coke
Obama won the debate, providing you think lying and talking points count as debate.
Are you telling me my TiVo program guide lied to me? If I’d been watching myself I’d have to choose it over my lying eyes.
Whichever channel I looked at must be devoting the next half hour to the aforementioned ludicrous spin.
…for some reason I’m craving yogurt and I don’t know why.
batboy, get your arse in the locker room right now.
So can George W. Bush beat Obama in this upcoming election? Hope ol’ George soon lets us know what he’s planning to do in his third term.
batboy can go back to his “duties” as Vice President now.
No you don’t, leigh. No you don’t. But we’d rather vote less evil and then, like these two, tell ourselves how after 250 years we have lost it all in order to have these luminous ‘bright futures’. Why is that, I wonder.
Poor us. Voting for the lesser of two evils like clockwork.
Probably steph will show up now and tell me that RON PAUL IS NOT A VIABLE CANDIDATE!
Bears have first and goal at the 3, and have three incomplete passes. The NFL has become too damn pass happy.
Mitt..Mitt the only “good ” Democrat is a ………………….
Polls will tighten. Mitt didn’t lose it but no homeruns that i saw.
Hey, I despise The Won. If he wins this election, I will sell out and move back to Ireland. At least the Irish had the honor to own up to their screwups and put themselves on the road to recovery.
Here? We have an awesomely outstanding liar display an ability to make an honest man look a fool, and unworthy.
Obama really is a master debater…oh I spelled that wrong
And now the real debate over who won begins.
Jhoward, It would be nice if there was a viable third party candidate, but i haven’t seen one since Perot.
What I like about football is, there’s no way to spin a losing season into a championship.
JH
the reality is either Romney or Obama. That’s it that’s all you get. You can throw tantrums and hold your breath until you’re blue in the face but it ain’t changing the ballot.
We can NOT have 4 years of Obama. So what will you do to make sure of that?
Over at Ace of Polls they have it at 96 to 4 Romney.
Perot wasn’t viable. He was sold that way by the horse-race media who wanted to make it interesting, but the seeds of his self-destruction were sown before he even decided to run.
We know who “won.” The comeback kid!
Doesn’t matter. People who haven’t made up their minds by now are watching football. The next wave of stories has to be exposing every last one of Obama’s lies, hopefully with side by side footage of him running against his own record.
The reality. I see. In other words you are avoiding the point, Darleen. It tends to do that.
One nice thing, I don’t think we will hear much about fact checking for this debate because it would be pretty brutal for Obama.
Ask yourself why that is, BT. And then why you think it’s not manufactured.
Perot was viable enough even after seeing flying saucers at his daughters wedding to get 20% of the vote.
I wish America had the tradition of “Prime Minister’s Question Time.” If you’ve seen it, you know just how brutal it can get.
We’ve gotten to used to treating our high elected officials like royalty, rather than the diapers they are, requiring regular changing.
Hence the soft path to hell.
JHoward, are you under the delusion that something approaching 50% of America agrees with you?
Because that’s what I asserted, charles?
No “we” haven’t batboy. Some have, but not many here.
JHoward, that’s what I inferred from your last comment to Darleen. The perfect remains the enemy of the good.
We have an awesomely outstanding liar display an ability to make an honest man look a fool, and unworthy.
I don’t think so. That was no Bill Clinton lying. That man can lie.
If you inferred that I said this evil was good then you misread twice, charles.
I know why. In order to have a viable third party candidate you need a viable third party, with branch offices in every city, town, county and statehouse in the nation. And with that come the organization needed to be the swing vote in the House and Senate.
Who has that?
leigh, I agree, BillClinton was a much better liar, but everyone’s afraid to call Obama out on his lies for fear of being called a racist.
If this goes as I expect, I’ll be on Achill Island by early next year.
I’ll work as a remote employee and watch America sink beneath the waves from the next parish over from Boston.
I’m not afraid, charles. Obama is a liar!!
Axelrod’s looks like a sewer rat
The San Franciso Giants are clinching . . .
. . . their ass-cheeks tighter than tight: they’ve seen Zombie’s Castro photospread and worry for their futures.
– Overall sense of it, same as the last debate. Bummblefuck needed a knockout .
Then you’ve resigned yourself to the one party system, BT, and with it the beat-Obama-at-all-costs philosophy roundly defeated in these very pages six months ago.
Perhaps the pragmatists can conceive of how a mere five million of you could write in the most prominent third name — whether it be a Palin or a Johnson or a RON PAUL! — and implode the system.
You won’t. The one party system and it’s two evils works okay.
Nite all. See you when I’m done being ill about failshit little country.
Axelrod’s is retarded and so is Obama’s economy
You’re tiresome, batboy. Don’t talk about what you’re going to do, just do it.
Getting 20% of the vote and no electoral votes isn’t viable “enough.”
JHoward, I’m a proud man but I wouldn’t put my country through another four years of Obama — survivable though I believe it would be — for that pride.
– He didn’t get that, and that means a slow continued trend tp Romney in the polls.
– I would guess the reason for that is where we’re at in the campaign. Voters are totally saturated with talking points and looking more than listening, and Romney simply looks more presidential.
Exactly so, McGehee. Not viable unless there’s 4 other parties credibly vying for the electorate (which, there isn’t).
And yeah. I voted Perot. Twice. In hindsight not a good choice.
“This is a fact we can’t ignore”
Not at all. I would love to see a 3rd party with the chops to push the dems and repubs out of their comfort zone.
McGehee, it was a start. Unfortunately the Reform Party fizzled after a couple of cycles.
Seth: Very well. Also, tiresome, you. Please engage, or just STFU, you know?
I’m actually interested in, and rating these debates because I *am* trying to make a decision on where to be to minimize the apocalypse I see coming. If you don’t like me, go look at Geff’s recent rifle posts. I’d former U.S. military and familiar with arms, I just don’t want to do that any more. I’m old. I mean, really old. I just want a quiet place to retire to look after my sheep, or Brussels sprouts, or whatever it is French intellectuals look after in old age.
I thought I’d be able to do that in the US, but I see that the US is about to run out of borrowing capacity, just when, what?, 40 million Americans are getting food via US Government funded EBT cards? Enough angry, hungry, people to turn this country into chaos. Right when the Iranians are getting nukes, and Israel is under the bus.
Americans voted for this, four years ago. Americans are likely to vote for more of this, and worse.
I’m looking to move to somewhere where history doesn’t really happen. Ireland, for preference, since I have a passport, or maybe Uruguay. I mean, what ever happened in Uruguay?
Somewhere quiet. That’s my current goal.
Krauthammer sez Mitt won. Mitt talked big ideas, Obama small ideas.
He likened O to a man running for city counsil.
“Hey boy! Hey boy, hey. Hey, whatchoo doin’ man, whatcha doin’ whatcha gonna do — that ain’t the piece we supposed to play! Come on!”
You’re not in a position to give orders around here.
I said “Please.”
That constitutes a request.
Dumbass.
Because really all it had — all it ever had — was “change.”
And without Perot fronting it, which they couldn’t afford after 1992, that wasn’t enough.
Maybe the Reforms should have nominated a black guy.
You’re not very smrt, are you?
Oh? Then please fuck off.
I’m asking nicely.
Then just do it,batboy. Move to your quiet place, dont just talk it up. You’re entitled to your opinion, I don’t really care.
Yes, talking about bailing out of America is tiresome to me (and probably not just me). Nobody likes a quitter.
Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton. I cannot forgive him for that.
O would have never gotten away with that crap in a meet the candidates forum for a local election. 90 year old Ms Pulliam would have stood up shook her finger and called him a liar what lies. Every town has a Ms Pulliam, not a king maker but could cost you 20 votes in a heart beat.
Was ol’ man Schieffer too awful bad? He seemed innocuous enough I thought, just about the best of the four, eh wot?
After voting for the reform party, I figured out that I was effectively voting for Clinton. Politics is about the possible, and the reform party wasn’t possible after Perot’s first go.
It was a nice try, but it didn’t have legs.
Schieffer was okay. He covered for O a coupla times, I thought.
BT, you’re right about Miss Pulliam.
Nah the reform party was about the spendings. With a lot of America First for good measure.
You know, I think I’ll stick around for a bit.
You know, one time I watched a US Presidential debate bombed by Democrat talking points for for one or two hours. When it was all over, I walked up to the stage. I didn’t find one of them, not one stinking Republican spin meister. But the smell– You know, that gasoline smell. The whole hill smelled like…
Victory!
Yep, give Scheiffer credit for conducting his moderator job professionally. One minor jab about us all loving teachers, but Mitt deserved it. Nice to see someone act professionally, the exception proves the rule.
Howzat, haters?
Batboy, word to the wise: you aren’t the only vet old or otherwise that is here.
Indeed, given, oh, Wisconsin, what was Mitt on about?
Did he thing that presenting his butt hole would make the teacher unions think more of him?
More Republican fail.
Wow, I’m convinced. Mitt Romney isn’t perfect or up to your standards.
leigh: In the immortal words of Beavis, “ARE YOU THREATENING ME??????”
Because, if necessary, I can become Cornholio.
I’m warning you, batboy. And I’m a girl.
“. . . what was Mitt on about?”
About what now? Transcript, gitcher transcripts here.
That was Perot’s theme, but what it represented to voters was, this is a different kind of campaign and a different kind of candidate and he’s going to change the way Washington operates.
Which, if he’d been elected without anyone in Congress aligned with him, would have made Perot the fastest failed president in modern history.
Mitt Romney doesn’t fail my standards, I had a very low opinion of him.
He fails the standards of the low information voters, the people who will be seeing this performance in the last week before election day.
You know, the people who will see him agreeing with The Won on The Won’s performance.
You know, you true believers are truly rather blinkered.
leigh: I had given up on porn, but, well, ok, DO YOUR WORST!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!
I doubt any dynamics changed. Momentum still mostly with Mitt. Win Ohio. That is the election.
“Because, if necessary, I can become Cornholio.”
That would be impressive if this were 1994 and I were 13.
Again, and this was said earlier, low information voters weren’t watching tonight.
– Uruguay. Well, or Brazil. Worked for the Nazi’s, but that was way back, so it might not be as easy as it was then.
– But then again, I don’t have a lot of patience with Copperheads no matter where they come from. We don’t turn tail and run in this country. Thats a habit of the French, so at least you’re honoring your legacy.
Except batboy.
Didn’t Knopfler do a song about Uruguay? or was it Paraguay.
I preferred “Sultans of Swing” myself. And “Skateaway.”
Don’t talk about what you’re going to do, just do it.
At least he’s not doing it in the third person. But, then we’d know it was John Kerry.
The man’s too big, the man’s too strong.
Think so? I would hope that some members of the GOP, also a party ostensibly about the spendings, would have sided with him on fiscal issues.
I mean look at Georgia. Look how many Congressmen switched sides once they detected a shift in the wind. Nathan Deal. for one.
McGeehee, et al., feel free to take cheap shots, but I am an actual American citizen, a veteran of the USAF (ok, ok, tell me again Marines, Squids, etc…), and I am getting old, and I see this country voting itself into a place that is not friendly for me.
I’ve had a hand in killing enemies of my country, I’ve paid all my taxes, I’ve served on juries, I’ve voted in every election I could.
At the end of my days, I’m seeing the country I love turning its back on me.
Sort of like Reagan, I won’t be leaving this country, this country will be leaving me.
I’d like that to be a “to hell with you all” moment, but I’m a bit too much of an ass for that.
So there!
I’m actually interested in, and rating these debates because I *am*
a concerned troll
batboy, I don’t know what you were expecting, but you made the call too early to be taken seriously.
Obama looked like he was on crack, and Romney looked unworried the American people are too stupid to know when they’re being lied to. I find his faith in our intelligence kinda refreshing
And yes, squealing about leaving the country brings to mind Alec Baldwin…just so you understand how you sound.
And Mr. Howard, it’s a little late in the game to be crying over Ron Paul. Romney was the first choice of hardly anyone here, and lectures about the lesser of two evils is a tad condescending at this point.
Damn it’s pouring in SF with one out to go.
It is so weird to see someone randomly start posting that doesn’t know how smart you all are.
Low information voters assumed Obama won because “America teh great,” while instead watching football. I know because it’s what my ex-friend did tonight. But America is about the exceptional. Exceptional virtue, hardwork, or smarts.
Obama’s 0 for three on that.
I’m seeing the country I love turning its back on me.
dude 4 more years of baracky will cure that. dude chill
Die Winterreise
More in sorrow than in anger.
heh
Being old is about embracing the fact that the world no longer revolves around you, not being pissed that the world doesn’t know that fact.
Unfortunately, it’s now becoming penury and genteel starvation.
So would I, but we were all less cynical back then.
And if penury and genteel starvation is to be my fate, well, I’ll do it with those who know how.
William, it’s said that with age, comes wisdom.
Sometimes age comes alone.
Being old means no more 5 year plans.
I take cheap shots at cheap targets.
Unfortunately, it’s now becoming penury and genteel starvation.
how’s the keystone pipeline, gulf drilling. coal mining, gas drilling et al doing?
batboy should try a new sport
And then years later someone’s digging up the yard in the house where age used to live, and finds wisdom’s horribly murdered corpse.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over?
Heh, McGehee.
i think batboy would make a fine tranny. we need silicon bags stat
Heh! You assholes! You give me hope!
“It was a darkened store, me Knight!”
(Just trying to go with the flow.)
batboy, would you care to have a little cheese with that whine?
You say you served your country, well, you’ve got that going for you and there are a lot of people in the US that respect veterans, especially ones that served in war time.
I could talk a lot about all the crap I have put up with and the lack of respect I’ve received over the years and will never be able to overcome. However, you, batboy, as a veteran, automatically have a certain segment of society that will always show you respect.
Which is more than I’ll ever get in my lifetime. However, I don’t worry about the lack of respect, because there’s nothing I can do about it. I much prefer to go on about my life and my business without bothering anyone nor making a nuisance of myself.
So, kindly fuck off.
So. Was Romney’s vision of foreign relations even coherent? Vague, sure, but is there anything to work with? Like broaching the underlying religious tenor of our enemies motive, and the necessity of weaning the muslim off his grand gripe with the world?
But seriously, have you ever looked at real estate on Achill Island, in Ireland? It’s the most gorgeous ocean view property in the world.
I mean, if you can stand the actual Irish.
Blake: backatcha!
newrouter: I have adequate mass, without adding, well, extra mass.
Your consideration is appreciated.
Too true, Leigh. Funny enough, the closest I ever got to a fistfight was with an 80 year old. He was being obnoxious, I so wanted to take it outside, but… he was 80. He obviously wanted to fight me, but I wouldn’t dare push him, let alone punch him.
But the dude had no idea why I sputtered frustration and just turned away.
Sdferr, Romney should have repeated endlessly that you can’t have a robust foreign policy without a robust domestic economic engine.
But he didn’t.
NPR allegedly says he won the debate though, so there is that.
damn, William, you probably made the old man’s day. He probably strutted around proudly proclaiming how he’d backed down a “young punk.”
sdferr, I think we got a general framework. Which was more than we got from O. Given the time-constraints and having a debate partner with the ability to interrupt without being reprimanded by the mod, well we could’ve had more.
Polls are still trending Mitt won. Except for the LSD driven polls at MSNBC.
@batboy boring concerned troll w/”military” yawn kos kid
Sad and true, Blake.
NPR allegedly says he won the debate though, so there is that.
they can do it in the private sector soon.
sdferr: You might consider Romney to have fired the latest shot in the Islamic vs Western war.
It might have been better had he asked Muslims to take a long hard look at themselves, their xenophobia, their homophobia, their mysogenism, their religious intolerance, and their complete ignorance of science and the modern world of finance, but that would have had the entire staff of the New York Times falling on their fainting couches, so, well, you know….
– Well, considering Achill Island was probably one of the last sights many passengers on the Titanic ever saw you might want to ponder that a bit.
– Just don’t make jokes about snakes, Saints, or potatos and you should be fine.
newrouter: You are boring.
Peace through strength.
And really, can anyone come up with a better strategy in a unpredictable and violent world?
BigBangHunter: Leaving from Cobh, they’d have had to clear Kerry and go, oh, 100 miles north to catch a glimpse of Achill.
Go black to yer black holes. Or CERNs.
That Fischer-Dieskau can roll r’s with the best of ’em.
“It might have been better had he asked Muslims to take a long hard look at themselves”
He did. They know the UN report he referenced. They wrote it. And it finds Arabs wanting and in extremis.
BigBangHunter: Oddly enough, I am wearing a pirate T-shirt. How funny.
sdferr: I confess complete ignorance.
– You might want to take you own ill-timed advice. They did exactly that on a shakedown cruise around the northern tip of Ireland prior to her maiden voyage.
– So then, besides childish uninformed outbursts, what other talents do you think you have?
Here’s a wiki batboy, there’s a series of reports: external links are at page bottom.
It might have been better had he asked Muslims to take a long hard look at themselves,
maybe the baracky do dat
LA Times: “At third debate, the Romney doctrine sounds like the Obama doctrine”
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-final-debate-romney-doctrine-sounds-like-obama-doctrine-20121022,0,3468372.story
Advantage Obama.
batboy, I hear 8mile in Detroit is pretty nice this time of year
“Advantage Obama.”
Wait, do you believe what David Axelrod says too?
sdferr: I confess complete ignorance.
the kos kids are kalling you
BigBangHunter: What effect do you expect your scorn to have? I don’t know you personally, and have no real tie to you, so why are you doing this?
newrouter: I have enough integrity to admit ignorance.
Advantage Obama.
oh my the la times? do peeps read dat?
wally, sdferr: I am simply reporting what will be news from hell, tomorrow morning.
newrouter: I have enough integrity to admit ignorance.
stupid comes to mind also proggtard
Glance around O batboy. There is much from which to choose.
sdferr: When I first wikipedia, I ended up with reports of some tenor.
“searched”
I did not know Obama had a Doctrine.
Unless it is : “When challenged, blame others.”
“batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:00 pm
newrouter: You are boring.”
And YOU are insipid.
BigBangHunter: I never offered you insult.
Scorn? Havn’t seen anything that rises to needing that level of reponse yet.
– But if you insist on correcting people at least make a half hearted effort to get your head out of your ass. If you want to hang here you’ll need to step up your game.
Speaking of peace through strength, I gotta say, I’m warming to Romney. I think he has projected confident strength of conviction and charactor, contrasting brightly with Obama’s belligerence and con man rap.
I don’t know how anyone could have watched any of these debates and not seen Romney as more presidential than the President.
And your mother smelled of elderberry wine!
Strictly speaking, I think Dietrich is classed a baritone.
I am simply reporting what will be news from hell, tomorrow morning.
you don’t set the “narrative” anymore.
Do You KNow the Way to San Jose by Dionne Warwick
BigBangHunter: “Plonk!”
newrouter: “Plonk!”
– I’ve corrected you, I have not insulted you. Believe me if I did even you would know the difference.
” batboy says October 22, 2012 at 9:34 pm
McGeehee, et al., feel free to take cheap shots, but I am an actual American citizen, a veteran of the USAF (ok, ok, tell me again Marines, Squids, etc…), and I am getting old, and I see this country voting itself into a place that is not friendly for me.
I’ve had a hand in killing enemies of my country, I’ve paid all my taxes, I’ve served on juries, I’ve voted in every election I could.
At the end of my days, I’m seeing the country I love turning its back on me.
Sort of like Reagan, I won’t be leaving this country, this country will be leaving me.
I’d like that to be a “to hell with you all” moment, but I’m a bit too much of an ass for that.
So there!”
So, is EVERYTHING you say riddled with hard to believe middle school “look at me!” drama or are you just having a particularly bad night ?
” batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:18 pm
BigBangHunter: “Plonk!”
batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:18 pm
newrouter: “Plonk!””
And now we get ten year out of date usenet/email killfile jokes. Let’s all get together and sing Kumbaya and care about it! Woof!
“Poll: Decisive win for Obama in final debate”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57537795/poll-decisive-win-for-obama-in-final-debate/
The guy who’s been campaigning for the last six years lost, today.
CBS. Worth spit.
palaeomerus: “Plonk!”
“The guy who’s been campaigning for the last six years lost, today.”
That seems a tad melodramatic. Let’s wait and see.
“Forceful Obama bests defensive Romney in foreign policy debate”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/22/politics/debate-mainbar/index.html
In complete sorrow.
”
batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:23 pm
palaeomerus: “Plonk!””
Batboy : DERRRRRRPP-A-DEERP.
I’ll see y’all tomorrow.
Next tell us that ABC said Romney won too.
And NBC.
(Just like they did for the 2nd debate and the VP debate)
– Well, look at the upside. At least you got to type out the cult narrative, which regardless of any substance is always heart warming for the koolaide kids, and you did learn something about Ireland you didn’t know, so Win, win.
“Final debate leads Romney to some common ground with Obama”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/decision2012/analysis-final-debate-leads-romney-to-some-common-ground-with-obama/2012/10/22/a079d1a2-1c5d-11e2-ad90-ba5920e56eb3_story.html
See?!??!!!! Romney’s just like The Won, so why bother with any more Hope and/or Change?
– Night Leigh.
Can you tell me where they differ? Because if you were counting on the six idiots who haven’t made up their minds yet do do so on what the LA Times says they sounded like, you were destined to have your heart broken.
Racist! Denounced.
The sad thing is, Obama has a record. It sucks. He is not the challenger. He is the incumbent. Semi-confident tone of voice while spewing generalities is not going to cut it as a defense of that record. Whining to Romney about bayonets and horsies and submarines did not look presidential much less adult. Romney frankly looked like he knew more about Obama’s foreign policy than Obama did.
“Forceful Obama bests defensive Romney in foreign policy debate”
keep drinking the kool aide bat stupid. the results of nov. will make you cry
Did batboy ever figure out that network TV and newspaper influence and audience is declining? that CNN has the LOWEST of all cable network ratings? This is funny stuff watching the effort to salvage this third debate between Romney and an empty suit based on tone of voice and magical debate points.
@batstupid
See?!??!!!! Romney’s just like The Won,
4 more years of BARACKY/BUSH/ROVE
I’m still predicting a landslide for Romney.
how much does axeltool pay batdumby?
Going in to the final couple of weeks before the election, Romney gave The Won soundbite after soundbite to make it look like there isn’t daylight between their positions.
You may not like it, but that’s how it will be spun.
You can hate me for pointing out the truth, but it is the truth.
“The sad thing is, Obama has a record.”
It’s possibly worse than that, for he has what he might call a world-view — and it’s moronic.
Or, you know, the spin, man.
Is this a new version of monkeyboy? This is one of the most pathetic trolls since Timb/monkeyboy stopped posting.
Hmmmm!!
Man is my German rusty.
I know! And Obama said he considers Israel a close ally, then Romney said the same thing! You can barely tell the two apart!!
pdf maggie.
– Well LB, if tonights performance causes the trends to continue as before you may be right.
– An incumbent worth a damn shoukd have at least a +5 point lead at this point. Carter was +7 on Reagan at this point, and he was even suckier than Obama in terms of presentation.
“LBascom says October 22, 2012 at 10:34 pm
I’m still predicting a landslide for Romney.”
Same here. Obama will lose most of the independents he won in ’08.
I see the BSM has indeed accelerated to LUDICROUS SPIN!
They said Biden won his debate too, and that by showing up Obama won the second debate. Yet still the momentum is to Romney.
It’s almost as if nobody cares what the BSM says anymore.
Well, nobody important.
Fanks sdferr. That makes me think of “one big happy” and the crow that’s been following ruthy around.
I’m still predicting a landslide for Romney.
it is funny how the proggtards did it: 2006 harry and nancy take over. 2008 baracky and his “fundamentalist”agenda. 2010 racist react. 2012?
but it is the truth.
you got the “cracker” jack decoder ring?
I am not a troll. I have not offered insult. I have pointed out on an open thread how I thought the man I considered my best hope was failing.
I had the debate streaming live in another window so I could react in real time. I was truly hoping for the best from Mitt, because I believe another term from The Won will leave us with EBT recipients rioting in the streets right next to my house.
I was hoping for Romney to crush The Won, simply to guarantee a bit of domestic tranquility.
Instead, Romney BLEW IT, and the likelihood is another term for The Won, $20 trillion in debt, Federal bankruptcy, and rioting. You know, Cloward-Piven, as predicted by Geff.
I DON’T WANT THIS! BUT I BELIEVE ROMNEY’S PERFORMANCE HAS GUARANTEED IT!!!
Can’t you hear me? I’m not a troll. I’m desperately afraid of what’s to come.
Der Leiermann is not Obama — swear to God hand to heart– even though phonically it sounds like it should be.
” batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Going in to the final couple of weeks before the election, Romney gave The Won soundbite after soundbite to make it look like there isn’t daylight between their positions.
You may not like it, but that’s how it will be spun.
You can hate me for pointing out the truth, but it is the truth.”:
Actually Obama handed out more sound bites than Romney did and they were sound bites that make him look delusional or stupid. Obama is really not widely or well liked as a foreign policy figure OR as an economic figure OR as an idea guy. He’s a twerp with four years of big talk and nothing to show for it. He’s not going to gte a 2008 like turn out. He’d not going to get the benefit of the doubt. Romney looks fine and that’s about all he needs to look as the challenger.
” batboy says October 22, 2012 at 10:44 pm
I am not a troll. I have not offered insult. I have pointed out on an open thread how I thought the man I considered my best hope was failing.
I had the debate streaming live in another window so I could react in real time. I was truly hoping for the best from Mitt, because I believe another term from The Won will leave us with EBT recipients rioting in the streets right next to my house.
I was hoping for Romney to crush The Won, simply to guarantee a bit of domestic tranquility.
Instead, Romney BLEW IT, and the likelihood is another term for The Won, $20 trillion in debt, Federal bankruptcy, and rioting. You know, Cloward-Piven, as predicted by Geff.
I DON’T WANT THIS! BUT I BELIEVE ROMNEY’S PERFORMANCE HAS GUARANTEED IT!!!
Can’t you hear me? I’m not a troll. I’m desperately afraid of what’s to come.”
Your previous assertion that NR was boring has now taken on a sort of delicious irony as you descend into repeating yourself .
Vets should strive not to sound like chicken little.
Obama has the shit pile and Romney has the broom.
I’m going to go early vote tomorrow.
LBascom: “Plonk!”
I voted today. Now to retire to my hidey hole for a few weeks.
You lie, concern troll.
How about some Attack of the Killer Rabbits?
I will be voting in a Fiesta grocery store. I may buy some snacks after I vote. A couple of ‘grocery store deli’ fried chicken legs with Cholula hot sauce on ’em and maybe some of that iced coffee with milk and vanilla syrup in it would be good.
I DON’T WANT THIS! BUT I BELIEVE ROMNEY’S PERFORMANCE HAS GUARANTEED IT!!!
that be some good concerned troll stuff i tell you
I’m not a Romney fan, but Obysmal looks like a petulent child sitting at the table with him. All Romney had to do was not trip over his dick and he wins the election.
Monkeyboy, you can point to all the progressive sites with polls and headlines you want to, Romney did not trip over his dick.
Mike LaRoche: Great contribution!
Oh, “Plonk!”
oh batboy:
ike>fight on the seas and oceans, we shall mock them
fightwith growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall mock themfighton the beaches, we shall mock themfighton the landing grounds, we shall mock themfightin the fields and in the streets, we shall mock themfightin the hills; we shall never surrenderWe should do a poll on who believes Batboy’s nonsense.
Me? I vote “No”.
Leonard Rose looks a little like Bela Lugosi there. Blood sucking Killer Rabbits it is then.
Rto said it sounded tedious. But also wondered if you we’re making a carter reference.
Garym: You didn’t see the debate I saw.
But you weren’t watching at all, were you?
Late to the debate, late to the thread, ….. have you set your alarm clock?
or this:
“We shall go on to the end, we shall mock them
fightin France, we shall mock themfighton the seas and oceans, we shall mock themfightwith growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall mock themfighton the beaches, we shall mock themfighton the landing grounds, we shall mock themfightin the fields and in the streets, we shall mock themfightin the hills; we shall never surrender“I highly doubt your assertion that Romney needed to go in guns blazing to be his best. I think you’re wrong as a matter of fact.
Being belligerent and hyper-aggressive would have turned off the very same people you are concerned he didn’t reach. It was a much better strategy to make the case for himself, spend his time talking about what he wants to do, rather than getting into a school yard taunting match with an adolescent. We need some adults running the country for a change, don’t you think?
” have you set your alarm clock?”
to mt chair & suit
RTO is kinda right. Killer rabbits are tedious: they think they can eat you all the while you know as well as Obama does you’re going to kick their ass and eat them instead.
– Its kind of pitiful to watch. The Left still cling to Alinsky in the hopes they can drag Jug ears across the line if they can just sway enough votes by fake perceptions.
– Theres nothing sadder than a disillusioned Progressive. Well maybe a Cubs fan, but even they don’t lie to themselves.
I agree with RTO. It was tedious. And not necessary, since they spent so much time stroking each other.
Well, unless you’re into gay porn. NTTAWWT!!!!!
See if RTO doesn’t think the first movement sort of heroic sounding (or some ways better) though.
“Is it still Brahms? Tedious.”
He’s also pretty drunk and in an arguing mood.
Just sayin
Oh, so he’s a Tchaikovsky fan?
Told me when I got home that he drank on every mention of Pokeestan.
“He’s Russian?” Yeah. ” nope dirty commies”. I tried to explain that he was before that but it didn’t work.
“Romney Stumbles on Foreign Policy”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331344/romney-stumbles-foreign-policy-daniel-pipes
This, from Daniel Pipes. If you don’t know the name, please take the time to read up on him before making the ignorant football-style remarks that are just so “Au courant” around here. Please.
“I mean who else but a commie would make a Chinese dance quite so compelling. “
Monkeyboy thinks he’s really fooling people here doesn’t he?
Well let’s see — there’s the short Bartok “Drunken Song” or better, “A little bit tipsy“
This, from Daniel Pipes.
national review – yawn
Daniel Pipes is just upset that Romney did not talk about supporting democracy movements in Iran and bombing their enrichment sites. Do you actually think that he supports Obama’s foreing policy towards Iran batboy ?
Whoah!!!!!!
I just realized that GLOBAL WARMING never made it to the debates!!!! Total win!!!!
Downside: GLOBAL COOLING is about to become an issue. Mark it.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331341/cold-steel-mark-steyn
Obama doesn’t actually know/care what SF, soldiers, marines use/need in modern warfare.
This, from Daniel Pipes.
national review – lowry stupid like batboy
Fail troll is fail. And not smart enough to realize it.
Or how about the Quod Libet?
GLOBAL COOLING is about to become an issue.
nein global stupid of the proggtard sect. keep rubbing it ahole
BTW anyone watching the debate should have seen Obama trying to paint Romney as an irrespensible hyper interventionist “cowboy” warmonger like Bush. He failed to do this. Utterly. He also failed to look presidential. He looked more like the less popular and more desperate of two candidates for a us house of representative seat than a president.
Perhaps some Rachmaninov would fit the mood. I don’t think you could call it tedious.
I actually have Katia’s autograph…
Sorry. I meant “au fait.”
Ta’ mo gaeilge beagnach cailte, mais je me souviens de quelque mots francais, meme maintenant.
Omne ignotum pro magnifico, dontcha know?
Getting warmer, sdferr.
I’m listening to Pachelbel’s Canon in d.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOA-2hl1Vbc
“Perhaps some Rachmaninov would fit the mood.”
Sweet! That’s some hot stuff that right there.
hey batboy:
empty chairs:
Dionne Warwick – Walk On By (Stereo)
Well I think we’re played out here. Nighty night everbody.
And right over there to the right some grabby melodrama for our friend batboy.
Obama runs the ball into the wrong end zone.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331339/final-debate-yuval-levin
” Obama also made a couple of pretty stunning missteps. He seems to actually believe his campaign’s line about Romney and the auto bailout, for instance. The fact that the New York Times titled Romney’s now famous op-ed (written before Obama became president, by the way) “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” doesn’t mean Romney said the auto industry should be liquidated, or even denied federal assistance. He didn’t. He called for a managed bankruptcy followed by federal guarantees and support, which is basically what Obama ended up doing but without Obama’s lawless fleecing of creditors and giveaways to the unions. And more voters will now learn that than otherwise would have.
Even more astonishing, to me, was Obama’s ignorant and gratuitous insult to the U.S. Navy, describing Navy ships as the equivalent of horses and bayonets. It seemed like a prepared line, and it was appalling. Are the hundreds of thousands of sailors bearing arms under our flag (on the president’s orders) defending America’s security around the world tonight merely riders in some quixotic cavalry brigade chasing make-believe Indian chiefs? How exactly does a “pivot to Asia” work without those old fashioned ships? How does a global superpower project force abroad with fewer ships than it had when it wasn’t a global superpower? How does the advent of aircraft carriers make the Navy less rather than more significant? Is the sitting president really this confused about defense strategy? That line seems like a Romney ad in Virginia just waiting to happen.
None of this, however, is to say that Romney clearly won the debate. He didn’t land many punches against Obama’s foreign policy, surely in part because he didn’t really attempt all that many, and he certainly didn’t embarrass Obama. Anyone whose expectations were built by the first debate would have to say that Obama was far stronger in this one, and I think anyone scoring by points would probably say this was a tie and if pressed to declare a winner could easily choose Obama.
But this debate won’t be scored by points in the end, just as the first two debates weren’t. Romney got a far stronger wind in his sails from the first debate than his actual performance point by point should have earned him, and he got that because the debate changed people’s basic perception of him. He didn’t seem at all like the caricature Obama had spent months and millions painting. He seemed like the kind of person we choose for the presidency. He did the same in the second debate, without winning that one on points, and seems to have sustained his momentum as a result. And I think he did the same again in the final debate.
Long ago, the Obama campaign decided that in order for the president to win re-election in a bad economy when people weren’t happy with his performance he would have to do all he could to make this election about whether Romney was electable and presidential, and to pound a negative answer into people’s heads. This is the ground they chose to fight on, and the three presidential debates have therefore added up to a disaster for them. The first debate was the most painful for the president, because it not only put an impressive and presidential Romney on display but also put before the country a very unappealing version of Barack Obama. In tonight’s debate, as in last week’s, they had only the appealing Romney to worry about—but that is bad enough for them. Romney has easily passed the bar of presidential plausibility on both domestic and foreign policy, he has forcefully argued to voters that he has a real agenda for fixing our economic problems and the president doesn’t, and he has reminded them of why they are unhappy about the last four years. It has been an extraordinary accomplishment, achieved by Romney himself, and just when it counted. The Obama campaign has struggled fecklessly for a response, and has tended to turn to immature gimmicks—from Big Bird to binders of women—while leaving Romney’s core message untouched. “
From instapundit: http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/155142/
Sdferr, if you liked that, this is an interesting little video.
Krauthammer:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/23/krauthammer-on-romneys-unequivocal-win-romney-went-large-obama-went-very-very-small/
Pew on Obama’s foreign policy:
http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/18/on-eve-of-foreign-debate-growing-pessimism-about-arab-spring-aftermath/
So I’m watching this now. Did Barack Obama just tell me that he is a small business? I think he did.
So what low information voters saw: the last four years have sucked, shit is going up, it’s hard to find a job, stores are closing, and Obama is REALLY confident about it all anyway and doesn’t think we should go back to how it was when things were a lot better for 7 of 8 years.
It’s kind of interesting how the complete stranger who wanders into a site like this, proclaiming doom and gloom for Romney and how “concerned” he is about it, will proclaim that he isn’t a troll and yet he matches the usual behavior pattern of concern trolls since they started popping up in 2004 after Moby got that “brilliant” idea of his…
…though I tend to find someone who “sadly” proclaims the usual line about perception being reality to be a fool regardless of their true beliefs. People accepting that lie is part of the problem Jeff’s been commenting on for years now.
Yeah, this was my favorite line:
Remember when libs used to worry about gravitas? I’m not even sure what that means exactly, especially when a lib says it, but I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of gravitas…
“. . . but I’m pretty sure that’s the opposite of gravitas…”
If Obama’s demonstrating himself to have the absurd confidence of a kindergartener is the opposite of gravitas, yeah buddy.
All I wanted from Perot was for him to win one or more States and throw the election into Congress. Clinton would have won that of course but it would couldn’t be spun even by him as some mandate. His winning with 43% was almost as good.
Biden carries Obama’s gravitas around in his little clown car.
…I’m half surprised he didn’t mention swords or pikes in that ill-considered comment.
Patrick, he only mentions swords with Reggie.
Obama lied.
Romney tried.
I cried. (not really – I imbibed when Obama lied – I just woke up. Man, I’ve got a headache.)
Who won?
Heh…so that’s where this (starting at 0:43) is from…I am enlightened. And I need to go to the symphony more.
“Who won?”
Charlie Ives won.
Wow – did this get mentioned by anyone yet: Mr Tingles last night?
Sorry if it was. I worked, and I have to work this morning so I can’t read the entire thread.
So what low information voters saw: the last four years have sucked, shit is going up, it’s hard to find a job, stores are closing, and Obama is REALLY confident about it all anyway and doesn’t think we should go back to how it was when things were a lot better for 7 of 8 years.
Yea, I think the polls are REALLY off. The restaurant I work at – so far everyone is voting for Romney. I’ve been rather surprised, actually – I mean, these are YOUNG people (20-somethings) who are waiting tables. He probably had that demographic wrapped up in 08.
This, from Daniel Pipes. If you don’t know the name, please take the time to read up on him before making the ignorant football-style remarks that are just so “Au courant” around here. Please
HA! threadwinner.
Oh wait … he was serious?
Oh, batboy, you’re a card.
Is batboy our new truthteller?
Perhaps he’ll explain optics too.
That would be cool.
Obama was the master of the stares last night. He was the staremaster!
Yea, I think his staring was worse than he smirk/looking down strategy he pulled with the first debate. he looked like a robot.
Romney had to project calm and not allow Obama to bait him into being rattled. Obama is still playing to his base by attempting to take a page from laughing hyena Biden. O kept saying that everything everything Romney said was a lie.
Then he talks about the Navy being the equivalent of horses and bayonets.
I guess Obama thinks we’ll pivot towards Asia with a fleet of George Jetson’s flying cars
running on bio-fuel of course
That comment by Obama about horses, bayonets and swords was pretty clever, if you’re 12. Obama went complete asshole in a lot of his responses. It was appalling.
Obama went complete asshole in a lot of his responses
He’s been this way from the beginning.
Sitting in a Corker fundraiser-breakfast. He’s saying Romney failed to knock it out of the park, given the fat softballs BHO delivered; and is disappointed.
romney can work across the aisle to build a consensus about the continued utility of bayonets
obama? no way
Just catching up on the thread. That was entertaining. It’s curious that concern trolls always – and I means always – claim to be ex-military. It’s as though the second they lay down their military creds you can take it to the bank that they’re not who they say they are.
Corker also says that we might eke out Ohio. Possibly New Hampshire.
Oh, and Romney won the debate cycle, because of the crushing he gave BHO in the first debate.
I thought he looked unhinged.
The comment about horses and bayonets seemed to play well with “undecideds” in the focus groups. Which is consistent with the “if you’re 12” comment Blake made.
The answer to that ludicrous comparison, obviously, is that technology has advanced all over — including for potential adversaries. And just as ATMs haven’t killed jobs, neither has new military smart bomb or drone technology decreased the demand for transport or staging. Because what hasn’t happened, Mr President, is that the oceans haven’t gotten smaller or less spread out. The Chinese are increasing their Naval power, Mr. President. And the potential for hostile countries to block canals or ports is omnipresent. Perhaps you should take a break from redistributing wealth and explain to these potential foes how military preparedness works. Because they seem to think it a good idea to build up their military rather than tear it down and pretend that it’s being done because of technological advancement rather than intentional dismantling.
Did someone say horses?
Late to the party, the one part of the debate I watched got me so posses off my wife made me leave the room. Back in 2007, I posted that the reasoning behind QE was that the democrtas think that by lowering the value of the dollar they could reverse the offshoring trend and boost manufacturing here. On paper (a first year econ term paper) it looks like it would work. Unfortunately, in the real world, what it does is cause stagflation. Especially when dealing with planned economies where labor costs are virtually zero. Obama told us he was going to crash the dollar to “rebuild manufacturing” last night he took credit for the dollar being at parity with Monopoly money. No one said shit.
LMC – the QE is a reaction from the Central Banks to make up for the policy and leadership vaccum that is present in US and EU that failed to tackle root causes of all that crashed the house of cards.
It is like boosting speed with nitrous to make up for the fact that the driver has climed into the back seat. You can keep up the speed, but with catastrophic consequences to the engine. Not to mention the cliff at the end of the road.
Oh. Did someone say bayonets?
I’m not a big fan of overplaying the whole bayonet point, because arguably the bayonet is not really used so much now as it was in, say, 1863. But still.
Argh