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Fixed and pre-determined Presidential debate open thread

Bold prediction: the phrase “you’re just not being straight with the American people” is used at least once; whereas, “and we’re supposed to believe that, you fucking Marxist poser?” won’t be used at all.

319 Replies to “Fixed and pre-determined Presidential debate open thread”

  1. BigBangHunter says:

    – Roughly 15 minuteds to go…..

    – My only prediction: Regardless of anything else, if Obama losses his cool and reverts to South Chicago jivin’ trash talk. its over.

  2. sdferr says:

    When did Obama ever master South Chicago jivin’ trash talk? Hell, he can barely speak English unless he’s reading off a teleprompter.

  3. BigBangHunter says:

    – He learned everything he knows from his Uncle Wright.

  4. missfixit says:

    I still can’t get over the farce of Hollywood putting out their retarded “Obama Killed Osama” movie right before the election. It’s LOL-stupid and yet…I am not waking up from this dream, am I?

    (When does the SEAL movie come out?)

    I can’t watch these debates. Because I’m sure the toilets need scrubbing.

  5. BT says:

    Obama will declare he is present and be declared the overwhelming winner by the MSM before the moderator asks the first question.

  6. sdferr says:

    Thing about Wright is he’s a reverse carpet-bagger from North Philadelphia. Still, he’s been in Chicago long enough to pick some of it up I guess. Lousy teacher though.

  7. newrouter says:

    this one should be fun with baracky sans teleprompter.

  8. BigBangHunter says:

    – Ok, so we have lots of beer for everyone, and bags fly free.

  9. newrouter says:

    4. Crowley asks both candidates about gay marriage, asking Romney something along the lines of

    link

    romney : yo fat slut you changed the meaning of marriage by modifying it.

  10. Pablo says:

    (When does the SEAL movie come out?)

    Zero Dark Thirty got bumped to December because everyone started noticing how shameless dropping it just before the election was. National Geographic, however, didn’t get the memo.

  11. McGehee says:

    My prediction: Obama drools and soils himself, while Romney turns water to wine and resurrects a dead man; the BSM scores it a close win for Obama.

  12. geoffb says:

    That’s one hell of a look, dammit Janet.

  13. BigBangHunter says:

    – I hopr everyone has lots of Satchel’s popcorn on hand to wash down with the suda.

  14. BigBangHunter says:

    Rut Roh….mike problems right out of the gate.

  15. BigBangHunter says:

    – Great stage work…..she asked everyone to turn off their electronic devices, so the audio guys turned off her mike.

  16. newrouter says:

    have another suda on the house

  17. BigBangHunter says:

    – 82 uncommitted Progressives that should be committed.

  18. newrouter says:

    baracky pretty anxious to sit down

  19. Jrez says:

    already BO feigns interest…..

  20. newrouter says:

    baracky king of the economy, education, healthcare….

  21. newrouter says:

    romney lied gm died

  22. Jrez says:

    Class Warfare Double Down!!

  23. leigh says:

    Jughead is lying his ass off.

  24. newrouter says:

    baracky king of ameritopia

  25. Jrez says:

    if you put 23million people out of work, turns out you don’t have to import so much oil. who knew?

  26. geoffb says:

    Brack the Frackin Obama!!!

  27. Pablo says:

    Finally, someone crams the Detroit bankruptcy lie up his ass! Thanks, Mitt.

  28. leigh says:

    I love Obama telling Romney how the automobile business works.

    I guess he forgot that Romney’s dad started American Motors, eh?

  29. newrouter says:

    romney lied energy died

  30. newrouter says:

    go mitt go mitt go

  31. leigh says:

    Obama is getting pissed. Heh.

  32. newrouter says:

    baracky likes to sit

  33. Pablo says:

    I fucking love this Mitt Romney. I’m sure I’ll regret that later.

  34. leigh says:

    I love this Mitt.

  35. newrouter says:

    baracky sounding stupid now

  36. Blake says:

    Wow, Romney just laid the lumber to Obama over energy.

    Obama can only blame Bush and demagogue the issue.

  37. Jrez says:

    i thought willard was going to smack him down.

  38. Pablo says:

    Mitt’s taking no shit from Candy. Obama’s whining about being interrupted when he isn’t being interrupted. I like it.

  39. steph says:

    The Child Tax Credit is a DEDUCTION!

  40. leigh says:

    Obama turned his back on Romney and retreated from him twice last question.

    What a pussy.

  41. JHoward says:

    This is what happens when no real issue is the issue.

  42. JHoward says:

    …and they call these debates.

  43. Jrez says:

    ya middle class was CRUSHED in the 80’s and 90’s. horrible.

  44. newrouter says:

    “…and they call these debates.”

    mittens hit baracky good on energy though

  45. steph says:

    “We have enough pipeline to circle the earth.”
    Wow, he does carry a big stick!

  46. Jrez says:

    Class Warfare Triple Down.

  47. newrouter says:

    stupid discussion about gov’t owning all the money

  48. JHoward says:

    The left is gonna love this “debate”. Not because everything Obarry says is a lie but because how he looks saying it.

    Failshit nation.

  49. sdferr says:

    I just turned on the radio — Obama voice sounds kinda higher pitched and pleady . . . stressed, so to say.

  50. steph says:

    Tax credits for college tuition grows the economy!
    Do say!

  51. Pablo says:

    Obama’s smirking. Excellent.

  52. Jrez says:

    “Candy….bail me out here, please!?”

  53. JHoward says:

    Most important experiment in prosperity and liberty ever devised and we can’t big picture anything. Next up how to resolve television celebrity spats.

  54. leigh says:

    5 trillion dollar lie—again.

  55. sdferr says:

    There’s more of that rising pitch. Does Obama looked stressed?

  56. newrouter says:

    big bird drink

  57. steph says:

    He can’t tell you.
    He just told you, fuckwad!

  58. newrouter says:

    “this blows up the deficit” yea right baracky

  59. steph says:

    Big Bird. Enough pipeline to circle the world….
    Does this guy have penis envy?

  60. newrouter says:

    lol fat lady to the rescue

  61. Jrez says:

    Mitt continues with that delightful look of pity as The One digs deeper.

  62. steph says:

    If somehow the numbers don’t add up, will you be willing….
    Do you know more than a fifth-grader?

  63. sdferr says:

    aaaaaand

  64. steph says:

    Crowley: I will be run out of town…
    JFC

  65. newrouter says:

    ‘72% of women’s wages” pour cold water

  66. Danger says:

    Just got home from a swim meet and I have to say that this is an excellent synopsis ya’ll got going(can’t wait to hear what Tingles has to say;).
    so….
    KEEP FIRNIG!!!

  67. leigh says:

    Anecdotes about Granny and Moms. All lies.

  68. steph says:

    Qurst plant question of the evening. Seriously. it’s 1968. Let’s burn our bra

  69. newrouter says:

    war on the lady parts

  70. leigh says:

    Romney anecdotes about wimmins in his cabinet. Better story than O’s tired ones.

  71. Danger says:

    Unemployed women make more pay in Obamaville.

  72. sdferr says:

    Barack Obama’s Judge Roy Bean loved him some Lilley Ledbetter.

    Oh wait, that was Langtry. Barack Obama’s Judge Roy Bean wouldn’t shoot ol’ Bad Bob in the back though, now would he?

  73. leigh says:

    O brings up birth control as an entitlement.

  74. newrouter says:

    “politicians in dc making health decision” -baracky hahahaha

  75. sdferr says:

    Barry’s whispertalk doesn’t work as well as Bubba’s does.

  76. Jrez says:

    Because, you see “advocacy” really means passing a Federal Mandate that’s a Tax from on high.

  77. newrouter says:

    bush’s fault ?

  78. leigh says:

    Bush!

  79. steph says:

    Barry – How are you different than Billy Paul?

  80. newrouter says:

    baracky more bush bashing

  81. JHoward says:

    What’s troubling about Obarrycare, Mitt, is RFID chip implants.

  82. Jrez says:

    oh, shit. not a task force. we’re fucked.

  83. sdferr says:

    Obama seems to have spent more time telling everyone what Romney’s plan is than Romney has. Does Obama ever get around to detailing his own plans? It’s nice they give Romney a little time to tell people what his plan is from his own point of view though. Very kind of them.

  84. steph says:

    Barry, How are you different than Dave Chapelle?

  85. JHoward says:

    Tomorrow the pundits decide who “won” this debate.

    Entirely on optics.

  86. JHoward says:

    Does Obama ever get around to detailing his own plans?

    Why should he?

  87. BT says:

    Unless he screws up soon, Romney takes this one.

  88. steph says:

    This is plant question numero two?

  89. sdferr says:

    I dunno JHo, maybe he’d like to indulge in a little variety for a change?

  90. steph says:

    When does Double Jeapordy start?

  91. JHoward says:

    Barry ended Iraq…in order to install child killer drones on three other fronts.

  92. leigh says:

    There have been at least three plant questions, steph.

  93. Danger says:

    Didn’t that dude get his Obama phone?
    WTF do ya want from me brother?

  94. newrouter says:

    what’s baracky plan again?

  95. sdferr says:

    oof, he’s high pitching again. Very girly sounding.

  96. JHoward says:

    I doubt anybody’s counting, sdferr. If he looks cool, calm and collected then he is.

  97. palaeomerus says:

    The questions really make me want to pull a Denethor. I want to smash my digital cable palantir now. All it ever shows me is ships with black sails.

  98. steph says:

    Mr. President, how are you different than Rick James?

  99. newrouter says:

    baracky is big on “planned parenthood”

  100. StrangernFiction says:

    A blitzkrieg of lies.

  101. sdferr says:

    Anybody know if they’ve got a clock on these guys (I include Candy in the general rubric)?

  102. JHoward says:

    Hit him, Mitt. Be real.

  103. Danger says:

    Ok paleo your gonna have to break that one down for me later;)

  104. JHoward says:

    Obarry is pulling more time, sdferr. See CNN’s coverage.

  105. Blake says:

    steph, I counted two planted questions in a row. “Women only make 72 cents on the dollar” and “I’m undecided, but I’m worried you, Governor Romney, will return us to the failed policies of the Bush admin.”

    Anyone want to take any bets that it will come out that the undecided gal works with the DNC or has a working relationship with the Obama campaign?

  106. palaeomerus says:

    Yep. Mitt, bring up the last four years. It’s all talk. All wishes and sparkles to mask the smell of the shit.

  107. sdferr says:

    Now Mitt’s voice is pitching up a bit, straining against . . . . what?

  108. Blake says:

    Btw, is it me, or does it appear that Obama is channeling his inner Biden?

    I’m starting to think Obama is worried about losing his base and is playing to keep the base in the game.

  109. leigh says:

    “Mr. Obama, you are no Ronald Reagan.” (I paraphrase.)

  110. JHoward says:

    Women only make 72 cents on the dollar

    Because they choose to. A simple, verifiable stat but one that cuts cheese on the left every time.

  111. sdferr says:

    Did Barry kill Bin Laden yet? Or has he killed him twice or thrice again?

  112. Danger says:

    Did that woman just call Mitt President…Romney?

  113. palaeomerus says:

    “Ok paleo your gonna have to break that one down for me later;)”

    Denethor is the regent of Gondor from Return of the King, who looked into his magic ball and saw ships with black sails headed towards his city which was besieged with no hope of relief. He despaired, called the war lost and ordered himself burned alive on a funeral pyre with his son who thought would soon die.

    These stupid plant questions on my TV about ERA /Ledbetter and Bush are like a vision of black sailed ships coming through the magic ball. They make me lose hope.

  114. Blake says:

    I think Insty was the one who mentioned that questions in this kind of format tend to run liberal by 75%.

    Near as I can tell, the only conservative question was the one about the price of gasoline. And, I have to admit, I’m surprised the question was even allowed.

  115. Danger says:

    sdferr,
    I think he’ll be sharing his wallet photos pretty soon.

  116. leigh says:

    Yes she did, Danger.

  117. JHoward says:

    Liar.

  118. BT says:

    Romney should just come out and say all illegals should be lined up against the wall and shot.

    Pause

    Then say just kidding.

  119. leigh says:

    Which one, JHo?

  120. newrouter says:

    “the dream act” is like ameritopia

  121. sdferr says:

    Whoa, what happened to Phil Hughes? Injured how, that is?

  122. Blake says:

    Umm, no, Mr. President, a lot of those illegals don’t give a shit about America and only want free stuff.

  123. leigh says:

    sdferr, Obama is drawing his arms in close to his chest while he’s talking and doing the claw hand. (If you’re still on radio.)

  124. JHoward says:

    Barry has become incoherent.

  125. newrouter says:

    good mitt take on the fat lady

  126. leigh says:

    Mitt Romney took an axe
    And gave Obama 40 whacks

  127. sdferr says:

    Yep, still radio — thanks for the description leigh

  128. palaeomerus says:

    So after Fast and Furious and being rebuked by Univision for not obeying his own promises regarding immigration, Obama wants to lecture on Mexico policy?

  129. newrouter says:

    baracky suck it

  130. Danger says:

    Thanks paleo,

    I’ll be sure to review my Tolkein before the next debate.
    Could we limit the classical references to C.S. Lewis for this debate?

  131. sdferr says:

    What’s this pension stuff? Sorry, wasn’t paying attention when it started.

  132. JHoward says:

    Ask juggy how he made ten million in four years, Mitt. Do it.

    And chaos ensues as Candy Cowlie tries to remodel Obarry’s fool. Ha.

  133. Pablo says:

    Holy shit. I just saw a 87K+ tweets per minute stat.

  134. sdferr says:

    Just hearing the words bi-partisan support exit Barry’s mouth is puke worthy.

  135. leigh says:

    Did Candy tell Barry to wait his turn? Whoa.

  136. newrouter says:

    benghanzi choom

  137. leigh says:

    Benghazi!

  138. Jrez says:

    que question dodge in 3….2…..1……

  139. JHoward says:

    And here comes Libya.

  140. Libby says:

    A pointed question about Libya…BOOM!

  141. palaeomerus says:

    Obama will make sure folks are held accountable just like Fast and Furious.

  142. sdferr says:

    Barry is the mostest concerned of anybody, ‘specially when peoples are already dead his concern heightens to the mostest of the mostest.

  143. Blake says:

    Oh my Fucking God, the president is lying through his teeth about Libya.

  144. JHoward says:

    Maybe ask Hillary, Barry.

    Before or after bombing something; your call.

  145. JHoward says:

    But it’s not political.

  146. leigh says:

    Romeny acted presidential when O didn’t and O is bitching about it. That’s my job, dammit!

  147. sdferr says:

    How studly is he, that Barry Warrior?

  148. JHoward says:

    Bring the pain, Mitt, and ice this thing once and for all.

  149. Libby says:

    Dude, it was a terrorist act, and act of war. It’s not time to play CSI Benghazi and carefully put together a strong case.

  150. steph says:

    This is beyond silly and stupid.

  151. leigh says:

    Romney calls O out about his ME policy.

    THWACK!!

  152. steph says:

    If this motherfucker gets re-elected, I really don’t know where my next step is. Like Whittle, I fear it. Do I just drink heavily and watch Turtleman until I die?

  153. JHoward says:

    Hillary raised. The question of the evening.

    …and Barry absolutely contradicts himself about Benghazi.

  154. newrouter says:

    mitt the video mitt

  155. sdferr says:

    Oooh, Barry sounds fakey angry.

  156. palaeomerus says:

    Tell him about your PEACE prize Obama!

  157. McGehee says:

    Is it November yet?

    The one downside I’ve realized from the first debate is that it means there will be more debates in future presidential years. It’ll be the moment everyone points at to say, “This is when Obama lost the election,” and they’ll all conclude it means debates are more important than ever.

    But I guess if the alternative is more Obama, I’ll just have to live with it. It’s not like I’ll be watching any of them.

  158. Darleen says:

    Barry is OFFENDED!!

    doth protest too much

  159. sdferr says:

    Yipes, whazza please proceed?

  160. JHoward says:

    Don’t sully the words Commander in Chief, Barry. You have to be better than two foot six to do that.

  161. Danger says:

    Well Placed JHo,
    Well Placed!!!

  162. steph says:

    No the day after you blamed it on a youtube video.
    Can we beat the shit out of this jit-stain now?

  163. palaeomerus says:

    Sacred Honor ‘No applause’ agreement shattered!

  164. Libby says:

    Candy to the rescue, “Obama DID call it an act of terror…”
    Anyone surprised?

  165. JHoward says:

    Change the subject, Cowlie. Change the subject.

  166. newrouter says:

    candy be bailing

  167. Darleen says:

    If Obama called it terror on day 2 why was Rice blaming it on a video on day 6?

  168. leigh says:

    Assualt weapons? Plant.

  169. sdferr says:

    Gum control! Finally they’re going to do something about the rampant dispersal of that Beemans scourge.

  170. JHoward says:

    But Barry was prayerful, leigh.

  171. Libby says:

    Good question, Darleen. Mitt probably would have gotten to that if not for that pesky moderator. Give Candy a cookie.

  172. steph says:

    Assault weapons -plant question 4 or 5 or 6 or 7, BATMAN! PRAYER WITH BARRACK! If you don;t pray with Barry, your son will die!

  173. leigh says:

    Schools? AK-47s? Am I missing something here?

  174. JHoward says:

    Did you catch Fast & Furious before it got out of control, Barry?

  175. newrouter says:

    and they be black kids baracky remember the annenburg challenge

  176. Libby says:

    Chicago has gun violence AND gun control. What’s your point exactly, Barry?

  177. Danger says:

    I’ll tell ya how we’re keeping AK-47s out of criminals hands;
    We’re exporting them to Mexico, aint you heard?

  178. JHoward says:

    Surely government can change the Culture of Violence™, Mitt.

  179. palaeomerus says:

    Guns to two parent family values.

  180. leigh says:

    Romney endorses marriage.

    What a heretic!

  181. steph says:

    Culture of violence= RACISST!

  182. Libby says:

    Mitt mentions F&F……BOOM!

  183. JHoward says:

    …and give them Opportunity™. Mitt.

  184. Darleen says:

    FAST & FURIOUS !!

  185. newrouter says:

    nice segue mitt to ff

  186. Blake says:

    An economy in the toilet, looming debt crisis, the middle east is on fire, the EU is coming apart at the seems and people are asking questions about gun control?

    The planted questions are designed to energize the base. The Obama campaign is worried they’ve lost the base.

    Count the questions the base cares about: Birth control/abortion, equal pay for women and gun control.

  187. Pablo says:

    Fast and Furious! Well placed, Mitt.

    Obama’s predicted response? Bush did it.

  188. JHoward says:

    Obama has lost this. With his idiot record, it was kinda inevitable.

  189. JHoward says:

    Somebody define “assault weapon”.

    Nah.

  190. leigh says:

    Why does she keep letting Barrykins interrupt? O is lying some more.

  191. Libby says:

    You can tell when Mitt is making a point because Candy jumps in and redirects. Earned another cookie on the F&F redirect, Candy!

  192. newrouter says:

    baracky going to the center

  193. Darleen says:

    Romney did talk about fully automatic weapons rather than the “assault weapon” non-label.

  194. Danger says:

    apparently Candy Crowley got the rose garden transcripts for (liberal) dummies in place of the one jrez just provided.

  195. palaeomerus says:

    Mitt was pro assault weapons ban (reduced to cosmetic feature combinations by SC) before he was against but he said he changed it to court the NRA and that’s on the record? What bullshit.

  196. leigh says:

    Libby, the last thing Candy needs is more cookies. Just sayin’.

  197. Jrez says:

    stubborn much?

  198. newrouter says:

    fat lady badgering baracky

  199. JHoward says:

    Out of bounds, Choomie. Bad form. Bzzzt.

  200. leigh says:

    Outsourcing jobs question. Plant.

  201. sdferr says:

    How lopsided is the time differential at this point? Or to put it another way, can’t they just quit now? Surely the media will have accumulated all they need to press their resurrection meme by now.

  202. Danger says:

    Obama is running fast and furiously away from the question now.

  203. Danger says:

    Just one second. The understatement of the debate!

  204. JHoward says:

    39 to 36 minutes, sdferr.

  205. leigh says:

    sdferr Romney is relaxed and smiling. Loose shoulders, big gestures. Obama is smirking and deathgripping his mic in both hands.

  206. newrouter says:

    mittens seems to me to have more time?

  207. JHoward says:

    Hate to admit it but Romney craps bigger than Choomie.

  208. Danger says:

    Standby for Bain reference in 3, 2,…

  209. steph says:

    Mitt needs to up the ENERGY. He’s losing to Sharton-Obama Mr President.

  210. leigh says:

    Someone should throw Barry a bone and ask about American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. Nah.

  211. Jrez says:

    newrouter, it was lobsided almost 4 minutes previously to BO. It might be almost even by now.

  212. sdferr says:

    “Barry has killed it!,” shout the Leftist spinners, intending his townhall performance.

    “Yes, the economy, and the country as we knew it,” hear the middling middlers confronting the only things they know.

  213. newrouter says:

    “Hate to admit it but Romney craps bigger than Choomie.”

    nein the choom store is out of stuff to sell

  214. Jrez says:

    please bail me out again Candy.

  215. Libby says:

    So she asks Mitt how we get the Apple jobs back, the ask Obama “We can’t get those jobs back, so…” Another cookie!

  216. Darleen says:

    did Obama say Government investment will create the next Apple???

    WTF???

  217. leigh says:

    Jughead is just blathering his talking points. The same thing we’ve heard for 5 years.

    “Government does not create jobs”

    Go Mitt.

  218. steph says:

    JHoward, for the hundreth time, what are you on about?
    RON PAUL IS NOT A VIABLE CANDIDATE.

  219. palaeomerus says:

    High skilled jobs as a policy means that low skill workers should just leave. Everybody simply can’t weld or custom build stuff. You need to lower our labor cost and incentivize production here through tax breaks.

  220. Libby says:

    Darlene, reminds me of that classic Ramirez cartoon of a school-age Obama at the chalk board answering every question with “government.”

  221. Darleen says:

    Obama believes in free enterprise? Since when?

  222. newrouter says:

    baracky – 47% !!11!!

  223. palaeomerus says:

    “You didn’t build that! Someone else made that happen! “

  224. palaeomerus says:

    Now he’s Reagan. He’s been fighting for us this last 4 years as we lost more and more ground.

  225. Jrez says:

    there you go liberals. there was you 47% moment. hope you get what you wanted out of it.

  226. Blake says:

    paloaeomerus, we’re both on the same wavelength. I know plenty of people who want to go to work, stick object b in slot a, go home, and forget about work until the next day.

  227. steph says:

    Next debate, I’m betting on “folks”. Cause then I’ll be so drunk it won’t ever matter if I ever get up.

  228. sdferr says:

    Was that tail-end 47% the only mention? Smartish tactics if so, leastwise cutting off the rebuttal.

  229. OCBill says:

    If it weren’t for free enterprise, there would be no wealth to plunder.

  230. Libby says:

    Bret Baer is quoting Obama on Libya terrorism – that Rose garden speech claim is gonna haunt him. Good!

  231. Danger says:

    Hey no mention of us gun and bible clingers?

    I DEMAND EQUAL TIME!!!

  232. steph says:

    Meanwhile Sam Donaldson says, blah blah blah blah blah.
    SpaceGhost says
    fuck it this is so fducking crap

  233. Jrez says:

    for the record, I grabbed the first transcript available at whitehouse.gov

    here’s a fuller transcript: it does include the word “terror”

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya

  234. Danger says:

    “it does include the word “terror”

    Was it in reference to Michelle?

  235. BigBangHunter says:

    – I had to clean the soda off my monitor with at least two of Jug ears statements near the end. The first was when he said he was known for “lowering corporate taxes”, but the absolute winning king of lies is that he “thinks free enterprise, the free market is the greatest economic system in the world.”

    – This asshole would lie the teeth out of his dying mothers mouth.

  236. leigh says:

    He doesn’t call the killing of the Ambassador an act of terror, though.

  237. sdferr says:

    Obama in the Rose Garden also said: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

    Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.”

    What’s he talking about with the “respect all faiths” business if not the video? And he immediately follows up mentioning the Libyans, thus tying the video to the attack.

  238. Darleen says:

    it includes the word terror, but only in an offhand way. it does not refer to Benghazi as terror.

  239. Danger says:

    More important unanswered questions:

    Wheres bh? and Abe? and JD?

  240. palaeomerus says:

    He spent a week saying the matter is under investigation whatever he said in the Rose Garden. Any ambiguity on the matter CAME FROM HIM AND HIS REPS like Susan Rice.

  241. missfixit says:

    Oh God I can’t bear to watch this. How is Obama’s pant crease looking? Nice and crisp? Or a little sweaty?

  242. Libby says:

    All of the references to what happened in Libya he calls “attacks”. He only mentions terrorism after making reference to us already mourning the original 9-11 2011 attacks.

  243. Pablo says:

    Wheres bh? and Abe? and JD?

    bh is out of pocket, and announced as such. JD is busy over at Patterico’s. Dunno where Abe is.

  244. BT says:

    I’m listening to the callers post debate on cspan. We sure have a lot of dumbasses in this country.

  245. sdferr says:

    Well, that was the loveliest resurrection we’ve ever seen with our ears, ever!

    Reign Obama,
    Obama holds the reins,
    We will ever ever ever
    Be his slaves.

  246. Danger says:

    “and announced as such”

    Thanks, I missed the announcement.

  247. Jrez says:

    just to be clear, BO is absolutely lying. I just wanted to make sure I was accurate since I had originally posted above a link to what i thought were the remarks referred to and it didn’t include the word “terror.” didn’t want the fact that there is, actually, another transcript with an obscure and tangential inclusion of the unique collection of vowels and consonants which form the word “terror”.

    I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator”

  248. BT says:

    jrez anyone who read your link agrees that obama did not specifically call benghazi an act of terror.

  249. sdferr says:

    “I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator””

    His spokestool Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror” about five or six days ago and all the pressmen in the White House Pressroom nodded their heads in agreement. That’s all anyone should need.

  250. beemoe says:

    His spokestool Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror” about five or six days ago and all the pressmen in the White House Pressroom nodded their heads in agreement. That’s all anyone should need.

    I am pretty sure it has been confirmed on Wikipedia, also.

  251. sdferr says:

    “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”

    That should do for the rest.

  252. newrouter says:

    Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror”

    well it the baracky no?

  253. newrouter says:

    “it hurt” up there

  254. Mike LaRoche says:

    Here come Luntz’s dunces.

  255. BigBangHunter says:

    – The press is looking like a giant group of Roman slaves, trying with all they have to drag this bullshit artist across the finish line.

    – At this point I give them 1 in 4 odds, and that could go down with the last debate on foreign policy, which will focus on Iran, Israel. the ME in grnrtsl inclufing Libys, F&F, and LibyaGate.

    – Aside from the economy, Bummblefucks achilles heel.

  256. Mike LaRoche says:

    According to them, Romney won. Gotta say, I’m surprised.

  257. sdferr says:

    “According to them, Romney won. ”

    Ach, that cannot be. They were paid. Can’t be. Gross falsehood.
    Obama. Obama. Obama.

    We have our winner and he’s the resurrected man, risen again from the politically dead to rule and rule and rule. He killed it. Killed it, we tells ya!

  258. Jrez says:

    i do so wish we could all just hug though. **snif**

  259. Mike LaRoche says:

    Ach, that cannot be. They were paid. Can’t be. Gross falsehood.
    Obama. Obama. Obama.

    We have our winner and he’s the resurrected man, risen again from the politically dead to rule and rule and rule. He killed it. Killed it, we tells ya!

    Clearly, they must have been paid off by Diebold.

  260. leigh says:

    Crowley gives O 9% more time.

  261. newrouter says:

    mittens ain’t scared of the “black” president like grandpa’

  262. Danger says:

    “Clearly, they must have been paid off by Diebold.”

    The dude that called Obama a “bullshit artist” clearly deserves a bonus!

    Made my night so I’ll wrap it up and hit the hay now.

    The rest of you people…
    KEEP FIRING!!!

  263. @PurpAv says:

    People grasping for a reason to vote against Obama…and find it. They may not be Romney fans, but they know Obama’s failing.

  264. leigh says:

    Fact checkers are checking the facts and the facts are Obama lied after the facts were checked.

    I guess Barry forgot that Mitt is a lawyer, too.

  265. BT says:

    Did Romney not shakes hands with Obama at the end?

  266. BigBangHunter says:

    – I felt that Obama was showing distinct signs of intimidation in the first debate. He seemed to want to be more forceful this time but that slacked off near the end.

    – One impression thats all but impossible to ignore is the refusal on his part, time after time, to answer any pointed questions.

    – The other is the visuals. He lloks like a communuty organizer on the stage with a president. Thats a tough one to deal with. Not much they can do about it.

  267. Mike LaRoche says:

    Good night, Danger. You keep firing, too!

    Here are some quotes from Luntz’s group:

    – (of Obama) “I think rather than defend his own record he just attacked attacked attacked and that’s no way to win a Presidency.”

    – “I was not undecided between Obama and Romney, I was undecided between Romney and not voting, as unfortunately quite a number of people that I know are in that category. I was extremely favorably impressed.” (with Romney)

    – “He lied to get elected in 2008, that’s why I voted for him, I bought his bull, and he’s lied about everything, he hasn’t come through on anything.”

  268. leigh says:

    I don’t know that he didn’t. The camera was lovingly glued to the Wonce in the midst of a crowd.

  269. BT says:

    All of the self described dems calling in to cspan are saying Mitt dissed Barry.

  270. leigh says:

    So what? Barry disses everyone.

  271. BigBangHunter says:

    – Barry disses himself whenever “his people” atrn’t who he has to talk too.

  272. leigh says:

    They’re just mad because Mitt knows MATH.

  273. Mike LaRoche says:

    By the way, here are the results from a CBS instant poll: OBAMA: 37%; ROMNEY: 30%, TIE: 33%.

    But from that same poll, on the issue of the economy, Romney won big:
    65% say Romney won on the issue of the economy. 34% say Obama won on the economy.

  274. sdferr says:

    Grandpa nutted up and took the ball from Verlander. It’s a wonder Grandpa got his hand back when he reached it out. Ah well, all’s well that ends well in a Yunckee defeat. And Won to go.

    Go Won, just go.

  275. EBL says:

    I watched the first 10 minutes on TV, then the rest listened to it on the radio. I thought Mitt had the better arguments, but I want to go back and see what visual tells there were.

  276. sdferr says:

    Transcript already already. Quick lil’ devils when they wanna be.

  277. leigh says:

    Sean Hannity just said Croley corrected herself about the Benghazi Rose Garden quote.

    BOOM!

  278. BigBangHunter says:

    – The longer they flog that jackass, trying to blame Romney for the lies and cover up, the worde it gets for them.

    – By the next debate, if they haven’t made progress in some way. throwing people under the bus, or something, Romney should be able to absolutely nail the lid on Jug ears.

    – I know they’re desperate at this point, and maybe they think they have no choice, but people in general are getting more and more pissed every time they try to go with Romney or Bush on the consulate mess.

    – At some point he’s going to start losing votes every time he says the word “Bush”. Its doubly bad because people see he won’t answer any questions at the same time.

  279. Mike LaRoche says:

    Sean Hannity just said Croley corrected herself about the Benghazi Rose Garden quote.

    BOOM!

    Here’s the video where Crowley admits her error.

  280. leigh says:

    Thanks Mike!

  281. At work, “Obama would never propose a ban on assault rifles during the debate!”
    I say, “you commie, you’d love if it would happen though right?”
    “of course I would, but is he trying to lose this election?”
    “God I hope so.”

  282. Mike LaRoche says:

    Thanks Mike!

    My pleasure!

  283. leigh says:

    The sunday shows are going to be brutal.

    I’m looking forward to the last debate since it’s all foreign policy.

    Benghazi. Benghazi! Benghazi!

  284. Darleen says:

    I’m looking forward to going to work tomorrow and discussing the debate with an dda I work with. I’ve mentioned him before, someone who has been known in LA Democrat party, who has met Obama and Bill Clinton in 08 (Clinton even made sure he & his wife attended one of the high muckymuck celeb fund raisers last time out)

    He hasn’t said it out loud in so many words, but he’s pulling for Romney (told me today his mom refuses to vote for Obama over ObamaCare since it is going to kick her off Medicare Advantage)

    And yes, he’s black.

  285. BigBangHunter says:

    – Bottom line…..Barry needed a big win tonight to stem the bleeding. By any metric he didn’t get it.

  286. happyfeet says:

    Romney is very proud of his health care achievements in Massachusetts like he wants a fucking cookie

    No luck on ornaments so far but I don’t think I realized before that I don’t want to get her anything if it’s not at least unique or nice so the razorback one I found I ended up using as a tip for housekeeping

    So arkansas was a bust but I bet I have more luck in Louisiana… I kicked around Monroe this morning… Very odd place… Their whole downtown is a wasteland.. Yet they hang banners along the street proclaiming a “river district” or some such… The only thing of note was a restaurant called Cotton which I didn’t eat at cause I wasn’t really feeling it

    Vicksburg is enchanting though… I’m a be here a couple days before drifting down to natchez

  287. sdferr says:

    Big Obama. Big Candy. Big Government.

    Hey, check yourself Candy, you’re big. Too big. Go on, check.

    Obama’s wife wants you to starve. Wazza matta you brain? No connectie?

  288. serr8d says:

    Missed much of it, but Darleen…

    it includes the word terror, but only in an offhand way. it does not refer to Benghazi as terror.

    What he did there in his Rose Garden moment was, if I can be a judge of his intent, use the word generally and as an insurance policy, not as a specific description of events in Benghazi. And afterwords, Team Obama didn’t get specific until days later, after the spin had obviously failed.

    So, specifically to the point, he lied; he is now caught, but has that word out there for to bitterly cling to.

    I’m guessing the Left will carry his water, even though there’s hardly enough to drown a flea.

  289. serr8d says:

    Allow me to recommend a diversion, ‘feets, from your dry-landedness. Also a nice palate cleanser, if you can stand the high pressure!

  290. sdferr says:

    It’s round about Paw Paw season somewhere out there. Eyes ope’ hf, maybe you catch a couple.

  291. serr8d says:

    That photo up on Drudge right now…BHO looks like his mother if she were miming a gargoyle.

  292. sdferr says:

    Candy: “Let’s you and him fight while I sit over here eating Bon-bons waiting to trip you when you’re about to clobber my buddy there, how’s that for terms? Now git.”

  293. sdferr says:

    Ha! Candy managed to find a CodePink questioner. What were the odds?

  294. sdferr says:

    It shouldn’t be bad for Romney as he becomes known as Mr. One-against-two. Obama needs the help after all and people won’t miss that, nor miss that Romney manages well enough despite the extra burden.

  295. John Bradley says:

    another transcript with an obscure and tangential inclusion of the unique collection of vowels and consonants which form the word “terror”.

    I blame the egrets. Filthy creatures, with no respect for authorial intent.

  296. Jeff G. says:

    Just now was able to watch this debate on DVR, and from my perspective. the attempts to shield and aid Obama were even more pronounced than the last two debates, and yet Romney won tonight even more decisively. Recall, I called his victory in the first debate largely unimportant, in terms of swinging faux undecideds. Tonight, however, I felt he reiterated strongly the facts of his candidacy, and laid bare the fraud of the Obama promise.

    That Candy Crowley and a few audience plants attempted to aid the President in my mind made him look more pathetic and in need of cover.Because the truth is , at least from my perspective, Romney won on those Democrat gimme points as well.

    Granted,I’ve been drinking — won a bar trivia contest and a free tab tonight– but those are my honest and immediate observations. And I’m no Romney fan. Still, he won decisively, and at this point, it’s clear that Obama voters are those who are committed on blind faith alone.

  297. Natchez, Mississippi says:

    Sure hope you don’t get stranded on a sandbar, mister sternwheeler!

  298. Jeff G. says:

    Nevermind, just heard Krauthammer give it to Obama on points.

    Clearly, I’m not cut out for punditry.

    Go with who the left and the thoughtful right insist won.Makes election night more ELECTRIC!

  299. Mike LaRoche says:

    Here’s the video clip where one of Luntz’s focus group people calls out Obama for “bullshitting the public.”

  300. Slartibartfast says:

    In the next four years, I promise to hand-deliver all the ponies I have been promising for the last five years.

  301. McGehee says:

    My prediction did not come literally true, but might as well have. BSM says Obama showed up this time, which is an improvement on last time, therefore he won. #BigotryOfLowExpectations

  302. Slartibartfast says:

    Unicorn ponies. Wearing tiny little golden horseshoes.

  303. serr8d says:

    I wish these stupidish politicians would finally understand and accept that the 2nd Amendment is NOT about HUNTING. It’s as if they ‘grant’ us this right so’s we can go out shooting the king’s deer, if we pay fees for the privilege. Fuck ’em all.

  304. serr8d says:

    Oh. Had to illustrate my comment from 11:39 PM.

  305. Pablo says:

    Nevermind, just heard Krauthammer give it to Obama on points.

    If you get points for lying, he’s right.

  306. leigh says:

    I don’t know how debates are scored and will leave it to the brainiacs to unpack it for me. I know what I saw.

    I saw an aggressive, nay pissed off, president telling blatant untruths to the American people on a debate about foreign and domestic policy. Not only that, the pres was aided and abetted by the media one of whom was ‘moderating’ this ‘debate’. However, she did him no favors when she tried to Hail Mary him out of the Benghazi mess and made it plain as the nose on one’s face that there is collusion in them thar hills, only to make it exponentially worse by having to go on tv in the wee small hours and walkback the lie.

    The Lie™ will now become the big story for the rest of the week and not how the pres stammered his way through his talking points. For that, I would like to thank Ms. Crowley for stripping away the illusion that we have a free press.

  307. Slartibartfast says:

    But…Romney wants to implement $5 trillion in tax cuts for the super-rich!

    Obama apparently does think the US voting public is very, very stupid. And you know what? He’s got a certain basis for that belief.

  308. missfixit says:

    Well Jeff’s bold prediction came through — this morning Yahoo is blasting the headlines that Obama won the debate.
    ha

  309. Darleen says:

    I wish some people would stop “scoring” debates like prize fights – where unless the contender does a clear knockout the challenger loses.

    In this fight, the referee was sticking out a foot at crucial moments to trip the challenger and calling time outs when the challenger was in the midst of landing telling punches.

    Of all the instant polling, which O! barely wins overall, Romney wins lopsided in economy & foreign policy

    How is that? Oh, maybe because too many people still can’t bring themselves to completely dismiss the “good man” cuz that would be racist.

  310. Darleen says:

    ha! William Jacobson on Twitter

    “act of terror” is to Obama what “is” was to Clinton

  311. happyfeet says:

    Mr serr8d I think those are in the Neiman’s Xmas catalog this year but the weather is turning as the weather is wont to do…

    I will look for paw paws for sure Mr sdferr I went to a bodega here and found cajun boiled peanuts where you get to just scoop them into a cup yourself and they were the best thing ever

    Candy Crowley is an asshole. I remember hearing way more praise for blinky mccodger the day after the last one than moo cow is getting, but I’m also watching about 90% less blah blah blah this week

  312. leigh says:

    Heh. Obama refers to his presidency in the past tense.

    “When I was president. . . “

  313. Slartibartfast says:

    “When I was president. . . “

    Yes, we can!

  314. […] a Debate open thread over at Jeff Goldstein’s place, serr8d puts it quite well: What he did there in his Rose […]

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