Fixed and pre-determined Presidential debate open thread
Bold prediction: the phrase “you’re just not being straight with the American people” is used at least once; whereas, “and we’re supposed to believe that, you fucking Marxist poser?” won’t be used at all.
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I still can’t get over the farce of Hollywood putting out their retarded “Obama Killed Osama” movie right before the election. It’s LOL-stupid and yet…I am not waking up from this dream, am I?
(When does the SEAL movie come out?)
I can’t watch these debates. Because I’m sure the toilets need scrubbing.
Thing about Wright is he’s a reverse carpet-bagger from North Philadelphia. Still, he’s been in Chicago long enough to pick some of it up I guess. Lousy teacher though.
Zero Dark Thirty got bumped to December because everyone started noticing how shameless dropping it just before the election was. National Geographic, however, didn’t get the memo.
Just got home from a swim meet and I have to say that this is an excellent synopsis ya’ll got going(can’t wait to hear what Tingles has to say;).
so….
KEEP FIRNIG!!!
Obama seems to have spent more time telling everyone what Romney’s plan is than Romney has. Does Obama ever get around to detailing his own plans? It’s nice they give Romney a little time to tell people what his plan is from his own point of view though. Very kind of them.
steph, I counted two planted questions in a row. “Women only make 72 cents on the dollar” and “I’m undecided, but I’m worried you, Governor Romney, will return us to the failed policies of the Bush admin.”
Anyone want to take any bets that it will come out that the undecided gal works with the DNC or has a working relationship with the Obama campaign?
“Ok paleo your gonna have to break that one down for me later;)”
Denethor is the regent of Gondor from Return of the King, who looked into his magic ball and saw ships with black sails headed towards his city which was besieged with no hope of relief. He despaired, called the war lost and ordered himself burned alive on a funeral pyre with his son who thought would soon die.
These stupid plant questions on my TV about ERA /Ledbetter and Bush are like a vision of black sailed ships coming through the magic ball. They make me lose hope.
I think Insty was the one who mentioned that questions in this kind of format tend to run liberal by 75%.
Near as I can tell, the only conservative question was the one about the price of gasoline. And, I have to admit, I’m surprised the question was even allowed.
So after Fast and Furious and being rebuked by Univision for not obeying his own promises regarding immigration, Obama wants to lecture on Mexico policy?
If this motherfucker gets re-elected, I really don’t know where my next step is. Like Whittle, I fear it. Do I just drink heavily and watch Turtleman until I die?
The one downside I’ve realized from the first debate is that it means there will be more debates in future presidential years. It’ll be the moment everyone points at to say, “This is when Obama lost the election,” and they’ll all conclude it means debates are more important than ever.
But I guess if the alternative is more Obama, I’ll just have to live with it. It’s not like I’ll be watching any of them.
An economy in the toilet, looming debt crisis, the middle east is on fire, the EU is coming apart at the seems and people are asking questions about gun control?
The planted questions are designed to energize the base. The Obama campaign is worried they’ve lost the base.
Count the questions the base cares about: Birth control/abortion, equal pay for women and gun control.
Mitt was pro assault weapons ban (reduced to cosmetic feature combinations by SC) before he was against but he said he changed it to court the NRA and that’s on the record? What bullshit.
How lopsided is the time differential at this point? Or to put it another way, can’t they just quit now? Surely the media will have accumulated all they need to press their resurrection meme by now.
High skilled jobs as a policy means that low skill workers should just leave. Everybody simply can’t weld or custom build stuff. You need to lower our labor cost and incentivize production here through tax breaks.
paloaeomerus, we’re both on the same wavelength. I know plenty of people who want to go to work, stick object b in slot a, go home, and forget about work until the next day.
– I had to clean the soda off my monitor with at least two of Jug ears statements near the end. The first was when he said he was known for “lowering corporate taxes”, but the absolute winning king of lies is that he “thinks free enterprise, the free market is the greatest economic system in the world.”
– This asshole would lie the teeth out of his dying mothers mouth.
Obama in the Rose Garden also said: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.”
What’s he talking about with the “respect all faiths” business if not the video? And he immediately follows up mentioning the Libyans, thus tying the video to the attack.
He spent a week saying the matter is under investigation whatever he said in the Rose Garden. Any ambiguity on the matter CAME FROM HIM AND HIS REPS like Susan Rice.
All of the references to what happened in Libya he calls “attacks”. He only mentions terrorism after making reference to us already mourning the original 9-11 2011 attacks.
just to be clear, BO is absolutely lying. I just wanted to make sure I was accurate since I had originally posted above a link to what i thought were the remarks referred to and it didn’t include the word “terror.” didn’t want the fact that there is, actually, another transcript with an obscure and tangential inclusion of the unique collection of vowels and consonants which form the word “terror”.
I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator”
“I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator””
His spokestool Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror” about five or six days ago and all the pressmen in the White House Pressroom nodded their heads in agreement. That’s all anyone should need.
His spokestool Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror” about five or six days ago and all the pressmen in the White House Pressroom nodded their heads in agreement. That’s all anyone should need.
I am pretty sure it has been confirmed on Wikipedia, also.
“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”
– The press is looking like a giant group of Roman slaves, trying with all they have to drag this bullshit artist across the finish line.
– At this point I give them 1 in 4 odds, and that could go down with the last debate on foreign policy, which will focus on Iran, Israel. the ME in grnrtsl inclufing Libys, F&F, and LibyaGate.
– Aside from the economy, Bummblefucks achilles heel.
Ach, that cannot be. They were paid. Can’t be. Gross falsehood.
Obama. Obama. Obama.
We have our winner and he’s the resurrected man, risen again from the politically dead to rule and rule and rule. He killed it. Killed it, we tells ya!
Ach, that cannot be. They were paid. Can’t be. Gross falsehood.
Obama. Obama. Obama.
We have our winner and he’s the resurrected man, risen again from the politically dead to rule and rule and rule. He killed it. Killed it, we tells ya!
– I felt that Obama was showing distinct signs of intimidation in the first debate. He seemed to want to be more forceful this time but that slacked off near the end.
– One impression thats all but impossible to ignore is the refusal on his part, time after time, to answer any pointed questions.
– The other is the visuals. He lloks like a communuty organizer on the stage with a president. Thats a tough one to deal with. Not much they can do about it.
– (of Obama) “I think rather than defend his own record he just attacked attacked attacked and that’s no way to win a Presidency.”
– “I was not undecided between Obama and Romney, I was undecided between Romney and not voting, as unfortunately quite a number of people that I know are in that category. I was extremely favorably impressed.” (with Romney)
– “He lied to get elected in 2008, that’s why I voted for him, I bought his bull, and he’s lied about everything, he hasn’t come through on anything.”
By the way, here are the results from a CBS instant poll: OBAMA: 37%; ROMNEY: 30%, TIE: 33%.
But from that same poll, on the issue of the economy, Romney won big:
65% say Romney won on the issue of the economy. 34% say Obama won on the economy.
Grandpa nutted up and took the ball from Verlander. It’s a wonder Grandpa got his hand back when he reached it out. Ah well, all’s well that ends well in a Yunckee defeat. And Won to go.
I watched the first 10 minutes on TV, then the rest listened to it on the radio. I thought Mitt had the better arguments, but I want to go back and see what visual tells there were.
– The longer they flog that jackass, trying to blame Romney for the lies and cover up, the worde it gets for them.
– By the next debate, if they haven’t made progress in some way. throwing people under the bus, or something, Romney should be able to absolutely nail the lid on Jug ears.
– I know they’re desperate at this point, and maybe they think they have no choice, but people in general are getting more and more pissed every time they try to go with Romney or Bush on the consulate mess.
– At some point he’s going to start losing votes every time he says the word “Bush”. Its doubly bad because people see he won’t answer any questions at the same time.
At work, “Obama would never propose a ban on assault rifles during the debate!”
I say, “you commie, you’d love if it would happen though right?”
“of course I would, but is he trying to lose this election?”
“God I hope so.”
I’m looking forward to going to work tomorrow and discussing the debate with an dda I work with. I’ve mentioned him before, someone who has been known in LA Democrat party, who has met Obama and Bill Clinton in 08 (Clinton even made sure he & his wife attended one of the high muckymuck celeb fund raisers last time out)
He hasn’t said it out loud in so many words, but he’s pulling for Romney (told me today his mom refuses to vote for Obama over ObamaCare since it is going to kick her off Medicare Advantage)
Romney is very proud of his health care achievements in Massachusetts like he wants a fucking cookie
No luck on ornaments so far but I don’t think I realized before that I don’t want to get her anything if it’s not at least unique or nice so the razorback one I found I ended up using as a tip for housekeeping
So arkansas was a bust but I bet I have more luck in Louisiana… I kicked around Monroe this morning… Very odd place… Their whole downtown is a wasteland.. Yet they hang banners along the street proclaiming a “river district” or some such… The only thing of note was a restaurant called Cotton which I didn’t eat at cause I wasn’t really feeling it
Vicksburg is enchanting though… I’m a be here a couple days before drifting down to natchez
it includes the word terror, but only in an offhand way. it does not refer to Benghazi as terror.
What he did there in his Rose Garden moment was, if I can be a judge of his intent, use the word generally and as an insurance policy, not as a specific description of events in Benghazi. And afterwords, Team Obama didn’t get specific until days later, after the spin had obviously failed.
So, specifically to the point, he lied; he is now caught, but has that word out there for to bitterly cling to.
I’m guessing the Left will carry his water, even though there’s hardly enough to drown a flea.
Candy: “Let’s you and him fight while I sit over here eating Bon-bons waiting to trip you when you’re about to clobber my buddy there, how’s that for terms? Now git.”
It shouldn’t be bad for Romney as he becomes known as Mr. One-against-two. Obama needs the help after all and people won’t miss that, nor miss that Romney manages well enough despite the extra burden.
Just now was able to watch this debate on DVR, and from my perspective. the attempts to shield and aid Obama were even more pronounced than the last two debates, and yet Romney won tonight even more decisively. Recall, I called his victory in the first debate largely unimportant, in terms of swinging faux undecideds. Tonight, however, I felt he reiterated strongly the facts of his candidacy, and laid bare the fraud of the Obama promise.
That Candy Crowley and a few audience plants attempted to aid the President in my mind made him look more pathetic and in need of cover.Because the truth is , at least from my perspective, Romney won on those Democrat gimme points as well.
Granted,I’ve been drinking — won a bar trivia contest and a free tab tonight– but those are my honest and immediate observations. And I’m no Romney fan. Still, he won decisively, and at this point, it’s clear that Obama voters are those who are committed on blind faith alone.
My prediction did not come literally true, but might as well have. BSM says Obama showed up this time, which is an improvement on last time, therefore he won. #BigotryOfLowExpectations
I wish these stupidish politicians would finally understand and accept that the 2nd Amendment is NOT about HUNTING. It’s as if they ‘grant’ us this right so’s we can go out shooting the king’s deer, if we pay fees for the privilege. Fuck ’em all.
I don’t know how debates are scored and will leave it to the brainiacs to unpack it for me. I know what I saw.
I saw an aggressive, nay pissed off, president telling blatant untruths to the American people on a debate about foreign and domestic policy. Not only that, the pres was aided and abetted by the media one of whom was ‘moderating’ this ‘debate’. However, she did him no favors when she tried to Hail Mary him out of the Benghazi mess and made it plain as the nose on one’s face that there is collusion in them thar hills, only to make it exponentially worse by having to go on tv in the wee small hours and walkback the lie.
The Lie™ will now become the big story for the rest of the week and not how the pres stammered his way through his talking points. For that, I would like to thank Ms. Crowley for stripping away the illusion that we have a free press.
I wish some people would stop “scoring” debates like prize fights – where unless the contender does a clear knockout the challenger loses.
In this fight, the referee was sticking out a foot at crucial moments to trip the challenger and calling time outs when the challenger was in the midst of landing telling punches.
Of all the instant polling, which O! barely wins overall, Romney wins lopsided in economy & foreign policy
How is that? Oh, maybe because too many people still can’t bring themselves to completely dismiss the “good man” cuz that would be racist.
Mr serr8d I think those are in the Neiman’s Xmas catalog this year but the weather is turning as the weather is wont to do…
I will look for paw paws for sure Mr sdferr I went to a bodega here and found cajun boiled peanuts where you get to just scoop them into a cup yourself and they were the best thing ever
Candy Crowley is an asshole. I remember hearing way more praise for blinky mccodger the day after the last one than moo cow is getting, but I’m also watching about 90% less blah blah blah this week
– Roughly 15 minuteds to go…..
– My only prediction: Regardless of anything else, if Obama losses his cool and reverts to South Chicago jivin’ trash talk. its over.
When did Obama ever master South Chicago jivin’ trash talk? Hell, he can barely speak English unless he’s reading off a teleprompter.
– He learned everything he knows from his Uncle Wright.
I still can’t get over the farce of Hollywood putting out their retarded “Obama Killed Osama” movie right before the election. It’s LOL-stupid and yet…I am not waking up from this dream, am I?
(When does the SEAL movie come out?)
I can’t watch these debates. Because I’m sure the toilets need scrubbing.
Obama will declare he is present and be declared the overwhelming winner by the MSM before the moderator asks the first question.
Thing about Wright is he’s a reverse carpet-bagger from North Philadelphia. Still, he’s been in Chicago long enough to pick some of it up I guess. Lousy teacher though.
this one should be fun with baracky sans teleprompter.
– Ok, so we have lots of beer for everyone, and bags fly free.
4. Crowley asks both candidates about gay marriage, asking Romney something along the lines of
link
romney : yo fat slut you changed the meaning of marriage by modifying it.
Zero Dark Thirty got bumped to December because everyone started noticing how shameless dropping it just before the election was. National Geographic, however, didn’t get the memo.
My prediction: Obama drools and soils himself, while Romney turns water to wine and resurrects a dead man; the BSM scores it a close win for Obama.
That’s one hell of a look, dammit Janet.
– I hopr everyone has lots of Satchel’s popcorn on hand to wash down with the suda.
Rut Roh….mike problems right out of the gate.
– Great stage work…..she asked everyone to turn off their electronic devices, so the audio guys turned off her mike.
have another suda on the house
– 82 uncommitted Progressives that should be committed.
baracky pretty anxious to sit down
already BO feigns interest…..
baracky king of the economy, education, healthcare….
romney lied gm died
Class Warfare Double Down!!
Jughead is lying his ass off.
baracky king of ameritopia
if you put 23million people out of work, turns out you don’t have to import so much oil. who knew?
Brack the Frackin Obama!!!
Finally, someone crams the Detroit bankruptcy lie up his ass! Thanks, Mitt.
I love Obama telling Romney how the automobile business works.
I guess he forgot that Romney’s dad started American Motors, eh?
romney lied energy died
go mitt go mitt go
Obama is getting pissed. Heh.
baracky likes to sit
I fucking love this Mitt Romney. I’m sure I’ll regret that later.
I love this Mitt.
baracky sounding stupid now
Wow, Romney just laid the lumber to Obama over energy.
Obama can only blame Bush and demagogue the issue.
i thought willard was going to smack him down.
Mitt’s taking no shit from Candy. Obama’s whining about being interrupted when he isn’t being interrupted. I like it.
The Child Tax Credit is a DEDUCTION!
Obama turned his back on Romney and retreated from him twice last question.
What a pussy.
This is what happens when no real issue is the issue.
…and they call these debates.
ya middle class was CRUSHED in the 80’s and 90’s. horrible.
“…and they call these debates.”
mittens hit baracky good on energy though
“We have enough pipeline to circle the earth.”
Wow, he does carry a big stick!
Class Warfare Triple Down.
stupid discussion about gov’t owning all the money
The left is gonna love this “debate”. Not because everything Obarry says is a lie but because how he looks saying it.
Failshit nation.
I just turned on the radio — Obama voice sounds kinda higher pitched and pleady . . . stressed, so to say.
Tax credits for college tuition grows the economy!
Do say!
Obama’s smirking. Excellent.
“Candy….bail me out here, please!?”
Most important experiment in prosperity and liberty ever devised and we can’t big picture anything. Next up how to resolve television celebrity spats.
5 trillion dollar lie—again.
There’s more of that rising pitch. Does Obama looked stressed?
big bird drink
He can’t tell you.
He just told you, fuckwad!
“this blows up the deficit” yea right baracky
Big Bird. Enough pipeline to circle the world….
Does this guy have penis envy?
lol fat lady to the rescue
Mitt continues with that delightful look of pity as The One digs deeper.
If somehow the numbers don’t add up, will you be willing….
Do you know more than a fifth-grader?
aaaaaand
Crowley: I will be run out of town…
JFC
‘72% of women’s wages” pour cold water
Just got home from a swim meet and I have to say that this is an excellent synopsis ya’ll got going(can’t wait to hear what Tingles has to say;).
so….
KEEP FIRNIG!!!
Anecdotes about Granny and Moms. All lies.
Qurst plant question of the evening. Seriously. it’s 1968. Let’s burn our bra
war on the lady parts
Romney anecdotes about wimmins in his cabinet. Better story than O’s tired ones.
Unemployed women make more pay in Obamaville.
Barack Obama’s Judge Roy Bean loved him some Lilley Ledbetter.
Oh wait, that was Langtry. Barack Obama’s Judge Roy Bean wouldn’t shoot ol’ Bad Bob in the back though, now would he?
O brings up birth control as an entitlement.
“politicians in dc making health decision” -baracky hahahaha
Barry’s whispertalk doesn’t work as well as Bubba’s does.
Because, you see “advocacy” really means passing a Federal Mandate that’s a Tax from on high.
bush’s fault ?
Bush!
Barry – How are you different than Billy Paul?
baracky more bush bashing
What’s troubling about Obarrycare, Mitt, is RFID chip implants.
oh, shit. not a task force. we’re fucked.
Obama seems to have spent more time telling everyone what Romney’s plan is than Romney has. Does Obama ever get around to detailing his own plans? It’s nice they give Romney a little time to tell people what his plan is from his own point of view though. Very kind of them.
Barry, How are you different than Dave Chapelle?
Tomorrow the pundits decide who “won” this debate.
Entirely on optics.
Why should he?
Unless he screws up soon, Romney takes this one.
This is plant question numero two?
I dunno JHo, maybe he’d like to indulge in a little variety for a change?
When does Double Jeapordy start?
Barry ended Iraq…in order to install child killer drones on three other fronts.
There have been at least three plant questions, steph.
Didn’t that dude get his Obama phone?
WTF do ya want from me brother?
what’s baracky plan again?
oof, he’s high pitching again. Very girly sounding.
I doubt anybody’s counting, sdferr. If he looks cool, calm and collected then he is.
The questions really make me want to pull a Denethor. I want to smash my digital cable palantir now. All it ever shows me is ships with black sails.
Mr. President, how are you different than Rick James?
baracky is big on “planned parenthood”
A blitzkrieg of lies.
Anybody know if they’ve got a clock on these guys (I include Candy in the general rubric)?
Hit him, Mitt. Be real.
Ok paleo your gonna have to break that one down for me later;)
Obarry is pulling more time, sdferr. See CNN’s coverage.
steph, I counted two planted questions in a row. “Women only make 72 cents on the dollar” and “I’m undecided, but I’m worried you, Governor Romney, will return us to the failed policies of the Bush admin.”
Anyone want to take any bets that it will come out that the undecided gal works with the DNC or has a working relationship with the Obama campaign?
Yep. Mitt, bring up the last four years. It’s all talk. All wishes and sparkles to mask the smell of the shit.
Now Mitt’s voice is pitching up a bit, straining against . . . . what?
Btw, is it me, or does it appear that Obama is channeling his inner Biden?
I’m starting to think Obama is worried about losing his base and is playing to keep the base in the game.
“Mr. Obama, you are no Ronald Reagan.” (I paraphrase.)
Because they choose to. A simple, verifiable stat but one that cuts cheese on the left every time.
Did Barry kill Bin Laden yet? Or has he killed him twice or thrice again?
Did that woman just call Mitt President…Romney?
“Ok paleo your gonna have to break that one down for me later;)”
Denethor is the regent of Gondor from Return of the King, who looked into his magic ball and saw ships with black sails headed towards his city which was besieged with no hope of relief. He despaired, called the war lost and ordered himself burned alive on a funeral pyre with his son who thought would soon die.
These stupid plant questions on my TV about ERA /Ledbetter and Bush are like a vision of black sailed ships coming through the magic ball. They make me lose hope.
I think Insty was the one who mentioned that questions in this kind of format tend to run liberal by 75%.
Near as I can tell, the only conservative question was the one about the price of gasoline. And, I have to admit, I’m surprised the question was even allowed.
sdferr,
I think he’ll be sharing his wallet photos pretty soon.
Yes she did, Danger.
Liar.
Romney should just come out and say all illegals should be lined up against the wall and shot.
Pause
Then say just kidding.
Which one, JHo?
“the dream act” is like ameritopia
Whoa, what happened to Phil Hughes? Injured how, that is?
Umm, no, Mr. President, a lot of those illegals don’t give a shit about America and only want free stuff.
sdferr, Obama is drawing his arms in close to his chest while he’s talking and doing the claw hand. (If you’re still on radio.)
Barry has become incoherent.
good mitt take on the fat lady
Mitt Romney took an axe
And gave Obama 40 whacks
Yep, still radio — thanks for the description leigh
So after Fast and Furious and being rebuked by Univision for not obeying his own promises regarding immigration, Obama wants to lecture on Mexico policy?
baracky suck it
Thanks paleo,
I’ll be sure to review my Tolkein before the next debate.
Could we limit the classical references to C.S. Lewis for this debate?
What’s this pension stuff? Sorry, wasn’t paying attention when it started.
Ask juggy how he made ten million in four years, Mitt. Do it.
And chaos ensues as Candy Cowlie tries to remodel Obarry’s fool. Ha.
Holy shit. I just saw a 87K+ tweets per minute stat.
Just hearing the words bi-partisan support exit Barry’s mouth is puke worthy.
Did Candy tell Barry to wait his turn? Whoa.
benghanzi choom
Benghazi!
que question dodge in 3….2…..1……
And here comes Libya.
A pointed question about Libya…BOOM!
Obama will make sure folks are held accountable just like Fast and Furious.
Barry is the mostest concerned of anybody, ‘specially when peoples are already dead his concern heightens to the mostest of the mostest.
Oh my Fucking God, the president is lying through his teeth about Libya.
Maybe ask Hillary, Barry.
Before or after bombing something; your call.
But it’s not political.
Romeny acted presidential when O didn’t and O is bitching about it. That’s my job, dammit!
How studly is he, that Barry Warrior?
Bring the pain, Mitt, and ice this thing once and for all.
Dude, it was a terrorist act, and act of war. It’s not time to play CSI Benghazi and carefully put together a strong case.
This is beyond silly and stupid.
Romney calls O out about his ME policy.
THWACK!!
If this motherfucker gets re-elected, I really don’t know where my next step is. Like Whittle, I fear it. Do I just drink heavily and watch Turtleman until I die?
Hillary raised. The question of the evening.
…and Barry absolutely contradicts himself about Benghazi.
mitt the video mitt
Oooh, Barry sounds fakey angry.
Tell him about your PEACE prize Obama!
Is it November yet?
The one downside I’ve realized from the first debate is that it means there will be more debates in future presidential years. It’ll be the moment everyone points at to say, “This is when Obama lost the election,” and they’ll all conclude it means debates are more important than ever.
But I guess if the alternative is more Obama, I’ll just have to live with it. It’s not like I’ll be watching any of them.
Barry is OFFENDED!!
doth protest too much
Yipes, whazza please proceed?
Don’t sully the words Commander in Chief, Barry. You have to be better than two foot six to do that.
Well Placed JHo,
Well Placed!!!
No the day after you blamed it on a youtube video.
Can we beat the shit out of this jit-stain now?
Sacred Honor ‘No applause’ agreement shattered!
Candy to the rescue, “Obama DID call it an act of terror…”
Anyone surprised?
Change the subject, Cowlie. Change the subject.
candy be bailing
If Obama called it terror on day 2 why was Rice blaming it on a video on day 6?
Assualt weapons? Plant.
Gum control! Finally they’re going to do something about the rampant dispersal of that Beemans scourge.
But Barry was prayerful, leigh.
Good question, Darleen. Mitt probably would have gotten to that if not for that pesky moderator. Give Candy a cookie.
rose garden transcript. search on the word “terror”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/photos-and-video/video/2012/09/12/president-obama-speaks-attack-benghazi#transcript
Assault weapons -plant question 4 or 5 or 6 or 7, BATMAN! PRAYER WITH BARRACK! If you don;t pray with Barry, your son will die!
Schools? AK-47s? Am I missing something here?
Did you catch Fast & Furious before it got out of control, Barry?
and they be black kids baracky remember the annenburg challenge
Chicago has gun violence AND gun control. What’s your point exactly, Barry?
I’ll tell ya how we’re keeping AK-47s out of criminals hands;
We’re exporting them to Mexico, aint you heard?
Surely government can change the Culture of Violence™, Mitt.
Guns to two parent family values.
Romney endorses marriage.
What a heretic!
Culture of violence= RACISST!
Mitt mentions F&F……BOOM!
…and give them Opportunity™. Mitt.
FAST & FURIOUS !!
nice segue mitt to ff
An economy in the toilet, looming debt crisis, the middle east is on fire, the EU is coming apart at the seems and people are asking questions about gun control?
The planted questions are designed to energize the base. The Obama campaign is worried they’ve lost the base.
Count the questions the base cares about: Birth control/abortion, equal pay for women and gun control.
Fast and Furious! Well placed, Mitt.
Obama’s predicted response? Bush did it.
Obama has lost this. With his idiot record, it was kinda inevitable.
Somebody define “assault weapon”.
Nah.
Why does she keep letting Barrykins interrupt? O is lying some more.
You can tell when Mitt is making a point because Candy jumps in and redirects. Earned another cookie on the F&F redirect, Candy!
baracky going to the center
Romney did talk about fully automatic weapons rather than the “assault weapon” non-label.
apparently Candy Crowley got the rose garden transcripts for (liberal) dummies in place of the one jrez just provided.
Mitt was pro assault weapons ban (reduced to cosmetic feature combinations by SC) before he was against but he said he changed it to court the NRA and that’s on the record? What bullshit.
Libby, the last thing Candy needs is more cookies. Just sayin’.
stubborn much?
fat lady badgering baracky
Out of bounds, Choomie. Bad form. Bzzzt.
Outsourcing jobs question. Plant.
How lopsided is the time differential at this point? Or to put it another way, can’t they just quit now? Surely the media will have accumulated all they need to press their resurrection meme by now.
Obama is running fast and furiously away from the question now.
Just one second. The understatement of the debate!
39 to 36 minutes, sdferr.
sdferr Romney is relaxed and smiling. Loose shoulders, big gestures. Obama is smirking and deathgripping his mic in both hands.
mittens seems to me to have more time?
Hate to admit it but Romney craps bigger than Choomie.
Standby for Bain reference in 3, 2,…
Mitt needs to up the ENERGY. He’s losing to Sharton-Obama Mr President.
Someone should throw Barry a bone and ask about American Idol or Dancing with the Stars. Nah.
newrouter, it was lobsided almost 4 minutes previously to BO. It might be almost even by now.
“Barry has killed it!,” shout the Leftist spinners, intending his townhall performance.
“Yes, the economy, and the country as we knew it,” hear the middling middlers confronting the only things they know.
“Hate to admit it but Romney craps bigger than Choomie.”
nein the choom store is out of stuff to sell
please bail me out again Candy.
So she asks Mitt how we get the Apple jobs back, the ask Obama “We can’t get those jobs back, so…” Another cookie!
did Obama say Government investment will create the next Apple???
WTF???
Jughead is just blathering his talking points. The same thing we’ve heard for 5 years.
“Government does not create jobs”
Go Mitt.
JHoward, for the hundreth time, what are you on about?
RON PAUL IS NOT A VIABLE CANDIDATE.
High skilled jobs as a policy means that low skill workers should just leave. Everybody simply can’t weld or custom build stuff. You need to lower our labor cost and incentivize production here through tax breaks.
Darlene, reminds me of that classic Ramirez cartoon of a school-age Obama at the chalk board answering every question with “government.”
Obama believes in free enterprise? Since when?
baracky – 47% !!11!!
“You didn’t build that! Someone else made that happen! “
Now he’s Reagan. He’s been fighting for us this last 4 years as we lost more and more ground.
there you go liberals. there was you 47% moment. hope you get what you wanted out of it.
paloaeomerus, we’re both on the same wavelength. I know plenty of people who want to go to work, stick object b in slot a, go home, and forget about work until the next day.
Next debate, I’m betting on “folks”. Cause then I’ll be so drunk it won’t ever matter if I ever get up.
Was that tail-end 47% the only mention? Smartish tactics if so, leastwise cutting off the rebuttal.
If it weren’t for free enterprise, there would be no wealth to plunder.
Bret Baer is quoting Obama on Libya terrorism – that Rose garden speech claim is gonna haunt him. Good!
Hey no mention of us gun and bible clingers?
I DEMAND EQUAL TIME!!!
Meanwhile Sam Donaldson says, blah blah blah blah blah.
SpaceGhost says
fuck it this is so fducking crap
for the record, I grabbed the first transcript available at whitehouse.gov
here’s a fuller transcript: it does include the word “terror”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/09/12/remarks-president-deaths-us-embassy-staff-libya
“it does include the word “terror”
Was it in reference to Michelle?
– I had to clean the soda off my monitor with at least two of Jug ears statements near the end. The first was when he said he was known for “lowering corporate taxes”, but the absolute winning king of lies is that he “thinks free enterprise, the free market is the greatest economic system in the world.”
– This asshole would lie the teeth out of his dying mothers mouth.
He doesn’t call the killing of the Ambassador an act of terror, though.
Obama in the Rose Garden also said: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.
Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.”
What’s he talking about with the “respect all faiths” business if not the video? And he immediately follows up mentioning the Libyans, thus tying the video to the attack.
it includes the word terror, but only in an offhand way. it does not refer to Benghazi as terror.
More important unanswered questions:
Wheres bh? and Abe? and JD?
He spent a week saying the matter is under investigation whatever he said in the Rose Garden. Any ambiguity on the matter CAME FROM HIM AND HIS REPS like Susan Rice.
Oh God I can’t bear to watch this. How is Obama’s pant crease looking? Nice and crisp? Or a little sweaty?
All of the references to what happened in Libya he calls “attacks”. He only mentions terrorism after making reference to us already mourning the original 9-11 2011 attacks.
bh is out of pocket, and announced as such. JD is busy over at Patterico’s. Dunno where Abe is.
I’m listening to the callers post debate on cspan. We sure have a lot of dumbasses in this country.
Well, that was the loveliest resurrection we’ve ever seen with our ears, ever!
Reign Obama,
Obama holds the reins,
We will ever ever ever
Be his slaves.
“and announced as such”
Thanks, I missed the announcement.
just to be clear, BO is absolutely lying. I just wanted to make sure I was accurate since I had originally posted above a link to what i thought were the remarks referred to and it didn’t include the word “terror.” didn’t want the fact that there is, actually, another transcript with an obscure and tangential inclusion of the unique collection of vowels and consonants which form the word “terror”.
I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator”
jrez anyone who read your link agrees that obama did not specifically call benghazi an act of terror.
“I agree, he didn’t call this act terror and should be skewered on that point as should the “moderator””
His spokestool Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror” about five or six days ago and all the pressmen in the White House Pressroom nodded their heads in agreement. That’s all anyone should need.
I am pretty sure it has been confirmed on Wikipedia, also.
“No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.”
That should do for the rest.
Jay Carney asserted that Obama said “act of terror”
well it the baracky no?
“it hurt” up there
Here come Luntz’s dunces.
– The press is looking like a giant group of Roman slaves, trying with all they have to drag this bullshit artist across the finish line.
– At this point I give them 1 in 4 odds, and that could go down with the last debate on foreign policy, which will focus on Iran, Israel. the ME in grnrtsl inclufing Libys, F&F, and LibyaGate.
– Aside from the economy, Bummblefucks achilles heel.
According to them, Romney won. Gotta say, I’m surprised.
“According to them, Romney won. ”
Ach, that cannot be. They were paid. Can’t be. Gross falsehood.
Obama. Obama. Obama.
We have our winner and he’s the resurrected man, risen again from the politically dead to rule and rule and rule. He killed it. Killed it, we tells ya!
i do so wish we could all just hug though. **snif**
Clearly, they must have been paid off by Diebold.
Crowley gives O 9% more time.
mittens ain’t scared of the “black” president like grandpa’
“Clearly, they must have been paid off by Diebold.”
The dude that called Obama a “bullshit artist” clearly deserves a bonus!
Made my night so I’ll wrap it up and hit the hay now.
The rest of you people…
KEEP FIRING!!!
People grasping for a reason to vote against Obama…and find it. They may not be Romney fans, but they know Obama’s failing.
Fact checkers are checking the facts and the facts are Obama lied after the facts were checked.
I guess Barry forgot that Mitt is a lawyer, too.
Did Romney not shakes hands with Obama at the end?
– I felt that Obama was showing distinct signs of intimidation in the first debate. He seemed to want to be more forceful this time but that slacked off near the end.
– One impression thats all but impossible to ignore is the refusal on his part, time after time, to answer any pointed questions.
– The other is the visuals. He lloks like a communuty organizer on the stage with a president. Thats a tough one to deal with. Not much they can do about it.
Good night, Danger. You keep firing, too!
Here are some quotes from Luntz’s group:
– (of Obama) “I think rather than defend his own record he just attacked attacked attacked and that’s no way to win a Presidency.”
– “I was not undecided between Obama and Romney, I was undecided between Romney and not voting, as unfortunately quite a number of people that I know are in that category. I was extremely favorably impressed.” (with Romney)
– “He lied to get elected in 2008, that’s why I voted for him, I bought his bull, and he’s lied about everything, he hasn’t come through on anything.”
I don’t know that he didn’t. The camera was lovingly glued to the Wonce in the midst of a crowd.
All of the self described dems calling in to cspan are saying Mitt dissed Barry.
So what? Barry disses everyone.
– Barry disses himself whenever “his people” atrn’t who he has to talk too.
They’re just mad because Mitt knows MATH.
By the way, here are the results from a CBS instant poll: OBAMA: 37%; ROMNEY: 30%, TIE: 33%.
But from that same poll, on the issue of the economy, Romney won big:
65% say Romney won on the issue of the economy. 34% say Obama won on the economy.
Grandpa nutted up and took the ball from Verlander. It’s a wonder Grandpa got his hand back when he reached it out. Ah well, all’s well that ends
wellin a Yunckee defeat. And Won to go.Go Won, just go.
I watched the first 10 minutes on TV, then the rest listened to it on the radio. I thought Mitt had the better arguments, but I want to go back and see what visual tells there were.
Dionne Warwick – Walk On By (Stereo)
with mt chair
Transcript already already. Quick lil’ devils when they wanna be.
Sean Hannity just said Croley corrected herself about the Benghazi Rose Garden quote.
BOOM!
– The longer they flog that jackass, trying to blame Romney for the lies and cover up, the worde it gets for them.
– By the next debate, if they haven’t made progress in some way. throwing people under the bus, or something, Romney should be able to absolutely nail the lid on Jug ears.
– I know they’re desperate at this point, and maybe they think they have no choice, but people in general are getting more and more pissed every time they try to go with Romney or Bush on the consulate mess.
– At some point he’s going to start losing votes every time he says the word “Bush”. Its doubly bad because people see he won’t answer any questions at the same time.
Here’s the video where Crowley admits her error.
Thanks Mike!
At work, “Obama would never propose a ban on assault rifles during the debate!”
I say, “you commie, you’d love if it would happen though right?”
“of course I would, but is he trying to lose this election?”
“God I hope so.”
My pleasure!
The sunday shows are going to be brutal.
I’m looking forward to the last debate since it’s all foreign policy.
Benghazi. Benghazi! Benghazi!
I’m looking forward to going to work tomorrow and discussing the debate with an dda I work with. I’ve mentioned him before, someone who has been known in LA Democrat party, who has met Obama and Bill Clinton in 08 (Clinton even made sure he & his wife attended one of the high muckymuck celeb fund raisers last time out)
He hasn’t said it out loud in so many words, but he’s pulling for Romney (told me today his mom refuses to vote for Obama over ObamaCare since it is going to kick her off Medicare Advantage)
And yes, he’s black.
– Bottom line…..Barry needed a big win tonight to stem the bleeding. By any metric he didn’t get it.
Romney is very proud of his health care achievements in Massachusetts like he wants a fucking cookie
No luck on ornaments so far but I don’t think I realized before that I don’t want to get her anything if it’s not at least unique or nice so the razorback one I found I ended up using as a tip for housekeeping
So arkansas was a bust but I bet I have more luck in Louisiana… I kicked around Monroe this morning… Very odd place… Their whole downtown is a wasteland.. Yet they hang banners along the street proclaiming a “river district” or some such… The only thing of note was a restaurant called Cotton which I didn’t eat at cause I wasn’t really feeling it
Vicksburg is enchanting though… I’m a be here a couple days before drifting down to natchez
Bottom Line: Obama did not change the dynamic, and Obama does not change the momentum in Romney’s favor.
Big Obama. Big Candy. Big Government.
Hey, check yourself Candy, you’re big. Too big. Go on, check.
Obama’s wife wants you to starve. Wazza matta you brain? No connectie?
Missed much of it, but Darleen…
What he did there in his Rose Garden moment was, if I can be a judge of his intent, use the word generally and as an insurance policy, not as a specific description of events in Benghazi. And afterwords, Team Obama didn’t get specific until days later, after the spin had obviously failed.
So, specifically to the point, he lied; he is now caught, but has that word out there for to bitterly cling to.
I’m guessing the Left will carry his water, even though there’s hardly enough to drown a flea.
Allow me to recommend a diversion, ‘feets, from your dry-landedness. Also a nice palate cleanser, if you can stand the high pressure!
It’s round about Paw Paw season somewhere out there. Eyes ope’ hf, maybe you catch a couple.
That photo up on Drudge right now…BHO looks like his mother if she were miming a gargoyle.
Candy: “Let’s you and him fight while I sit over here eating Bon-bons waiting to trip you when you’re about to clobber my buddy there, how’s that for terms? Now git.”
Ha! Candy managed to find a CodePink questioner. What were the odds?
It shouldn’t be bad for Romney as he becomes known as Mr. One-against-two. Obama needs the help after all and people won’t miss that, nor miss that Romney manages well enough despite the extra burden.
another transcript with an obscure and tangential inclusion of the unique collection of vowels and consonants which form the word “terror”.
I blame the egrets. Filthy creatures, with no respect for authorial intent.
Just now was able to watch this debate on DVR, and from my perspective. the attempts to shield and aid Obama were even more pronounced than the last two debates, and yet Romney won tonight even more decisively. Recall, I called his victory in the first debate largely unimportant, in terms of swinging faux undecideds. Tonight, however, I felt he reiterated strongly the facts of his candidacy, and laid bare the fraud of the Obama promise.
That Candy Crowley and a few audience plants attempted to aid the President in my mind made him look more pathetic and in need of cover.Because the truth is , at least from my perspective, Romney won on those Democrat gimme points as well.
Granted,I’ve been drinking — won a bar trivia contest and a free tab tonight– but those are my honest and immediate observations. And I’m no Romney fan. Still, he won decisively, and at this point, it’s clear that Obama voters are those who are committed on blind faith alone.
Sure hope you don’t get stranded on a sandbar, mister sternwheeler!
Nevermind, just heard Krauthammer give it to Obama on points.
Clearly, I’m not cut out for punditry.
Go with who the left and the thoughtful right insist won.Makes election night more ELECTRIC!
Here’s the video clip where one of Luntz’s focus group people calls out Obama for “bullshitting the public.”
In the next four years, I promise to hand-deliver all the ponies I have been promising for the last five years.
My prediction did not come literally true, but might as well have. BSM says Obama showed up this time, which is an improvement on last time, therefore he won. #BigotryOfLowExpectations
Unicorn ponies. Wearing tiny little golden horseshoes.
I wish these stupidish politicians would finally understand and accept that the 2nd Amendment is NOT about HUNTING. It’s as if they ‘grant’ us this right so’s we can go out shooting the king’s deer, if we pay fees for the privilege. Fuck ’em all.
Oh. Had to illustrate my comment from 11:39 PM.
If you get points for lying, he’s right.
I don’t know how debates are scored and will leave it to the brainiacs to unpack it for me. I know what I saw.
I saw an aggressive, nay pissed off, president telling blatant untruths to the American people on a debate about foreign and domestic policy. Not only that, the pres was aided and abetted by the media one of whom was ‘moderating’ this ‘debate’. However, she did him no favors when she tried to Hail Mary him out of the Benghazi mess and made it plain as the nose on one’s face that there is collusion in them thar hills, only to make it exponentially worse by having to go on tv in the wee small hours and walkback the lie.
The Lie™ will now become the big story for the rest of the week and not how the pres stammered his way through his talking points. For that, I would like to thank Ms. Crowley for stripping away the illusion that we have a free press.
But…Romney wants to implement $5 trillion in tax cuts for the super-rich!
Obama apparently does think the US voting public is very, very stupid. And you know what? He’s got a certain basis for that belief.
Heh.
MSNBC’s Undecided Voter Panel Swayed by Romney
Well Jeff’s bold prediction came through — this morning Yahoo is blasting the headlines that Obama won the debate.
ha
I wish some people would stop “scoring” debates like prize fights – where unless the contender does a clear knockout the challenger loses.
In this fight, the referee was sticking out a foot at crucial moments to trip the challenger and calling time outs when the challenger was in the midst of landing telling punches.
Of all the instant polling, which O! barely wins overall, Romney wins lopsided in economy & foreign policy
How is that? Oh, maybe because too many people still can’t bring themselves to completely dismiss the “good man” cuz that would be racist.
ha! William Jacobson on Twitter
Mr serr8d I think those are in the Neiman’s Xmas catalog this year but the weather is turning as the weather is wont to do…
I will look for paw paws for sure Mr sdferr I went to a bodega here and found cajun boiled peanuts where you get to just scoop them into a cup yourself and they were the best thing ever
Candy Crowley is an asshole. I remember hearing way more praise for blinky mccodger the day after the last one than moo cow is getting, but I’m also watching about 90% less blah blah blah this week
Heh. Obama refers to his presidency in the past tense.
“When I was president. . . “
Yes, we can!
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