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no.2 no.2 from sloe joe
Apparently Mr Ryan is the funny. Slow Joe sure is doing a lot of laughing. Time to start drinking.
Joe seems to be using a two pronged defense. Treating everything Ryan says as the funniest joke ever and then when his own turn comes saying he has classified intel that shows what he is saying is true but he can’t reveal it.
Ryan has the same intell as Joe.
The laughing is getting on my nerves. That, and the interrupting.
Any intelligence Biden has is obviously a closely guarded secret.
If I had an opposing counsel grinning and laughing like an idiot during my argument, if the judge didn’t slap him, I might. And I love how Biden thinks A nuclear Iran would be ok if they didn’t have a long range missile.
gawd sloe joe is awful
Joe tries to get the 47% barb out and…SQUIRREL!!! Also, we’re hemorrhaging tax cuts.
I thought there was a clock on these answers?
Joe is filibustering.
I like how Ryan is keeping his cool and staying on-message.
Excellent one-liner by Ryan!
sloe joe take that gaffster
Joe is playing to a laugh track that only he can hear…
Joe hauls out the corpses of his wife and daughter.
Again.
Great Ryan zing on Bidens gaffes.
Please, Paul. I beg you. Say “DETROIT FUCKING WENT BANKRUPT, YOU JACKASS!”
sloe joe : BUSH’S FAULT
green pork!
yes sloe joe looks stupid let’s move on
Martha just pulled Joe’s nuts out of the fire when Ryan asked “Where are the 5 million green jobs?”
The interrupting thing is not working for Joe.
Joe cannot shut the fuck up.
sloe joe be looking stupid when he keeps interupting
sloe joe is like cuttler and shovels
Ryan told him to zip it and yet he blathers on.
Where is the moderator?
Biden is the single most mendacious sociopath in this hive of villainy. Problem is Ryan has no idea how to stop him. Ryan’s being a statist isn’t helping either, is it Paul? Way to lead with your social program record, dude.
And back Biden goes to hogging the clock.
This is a lot like the last debate: How best to be a Socialist.
Not a good debate for Ryan. This isn’t that hard.
yea big gov’t debate
I’d like to think Ryan is just too nice, but I suspect it’s a bit worse than that.
Being corrupt helps, Fiction. Being an ancient sociopath really helps.
This is why he was chosen.
Seriously our Vice President is an Interupting jackass. That’s what 47 of the people will vote. A smirking twatwaffle.
Who told the kid he could take this thing arguing for socialism?
I’m waiting for Joe to attack Ryan for wanting to liberate the economy.
angry old white male on display
Tomorrow could be a bad day for Ace of Polls.
nah sloe joe is yelling too much
Talk through him, Ryan. Sack up.
sloe joe’s angry stuff is off putting
1. joe Biden is a loud mouthed boor and if he says “folks” one more time I swear I’m gonna reach thyrough the radio and choke him..
2. it seems Mr. Ryan is debating 2 people 1 that keeps interupting with non-sequitors and strawmen and the the other one that wont shutup. admittedly it’s tough to tell which one is which.
These aren’t issues. This isn’t a debate.
Ryan keeps anecdoting. This is crap.
JAYSUS EFFIN KRIST (just got home after crawling along the freeway due to heavy rain) What a condescending asshole blowhard is Joe!! I’m like screaming at my radio and this so-called “moderator” keeps cutting off Ryan
what the fuck!
sloe joe tells the taliban WE ARE LEAVING
…and another anecdote.
sloe joe: HEAR ME
How the hell does Ryan keep from slapping Joe from across the table.
I want to crawl back into the womb.
DECIMATING AL QUAEDA??? Tell that to Ambassador Stephens family ya putz!
This debate sums up the state of this country.
I will say Biden’s desperation is showing. Sucks being front man for this clownpile.
sloe joe is getting testy with martha
“You be a little straight with me here too.”
ha
Because he’s a better man then you and I.
Insulting the mod? O–kay, then.
2:1 in favor of Biden’s clock time. This is not a confident man.
If he’s human, that is.
oh good afghan troops to the rescue sloe joe
Noteb to Joe,
THE AFGHAN TROOPS SUCK!
Joe knows fuck all about tactics.
sloe joe spent 6 days on this?
Well, Syria is a different country, leigh.
Raddatz and Biden vs. Ryan.
I hope what people take away from this debate is that Biden doesn’t respect any other opinion than his own — and so assertive is he in this regard that he won’t even let his opponent speak without interrupting or talking over him.
The Dems will love this. I’m not sure many others will, though. Biden looks about as “statesmanlike” as a pulled pork sandwich. With hair plugs.
It’s infuriating. I want to turn the damn thing off because nothing is being said — and even what it is, it’s a pack of rehashed lies presented with a condescending smirk.
The mod keeps rescuing joe.
Ryan needs to sack the hell up. This thing is his to take.
Except for his voting record, I mean.
a crazy man, a proggtard, and a conservative walk into a bar…
lol
“You be a little straight with me too.”
Hell that’s funny.
What? We don’t go through the UN, Joe? What are all those speeches about?
…although Ryan appears much less a conservative than Romney. Quite a surprise on both counts.
Catholic questions!
oh give me a break ABORTION????
as if any President has any thing to do with abortion LAW.
fuck Martha
Can we get to The War on Women now?
…and Ryan is only too happy to oblige. Kid.
Anecdote!
puke
This is a stupid topic, but why is Joe snickering?
And he’s been a practicing Catholic his whole life, he says.
Ryan handled that well and turned to Obama’s extremist position
I’m with you, JHo. Too many anecdotes, already.
sloe joe doesn’t oppose slavery too coming from a slave state
Joe’s Hushed Tones. Hey, it sells.
Todd Akin? WTF does he have to do with anything?
This isn’t vice presidential, leigh. It’s vice principal.
Raddatz should just let Biden define Ryan. Oh wait.
A heartbeat away from the presidency, too, JHo.
Radditz appeals to authority with her next stupid question.
what stupid question martha
Biden outright lied that Catholic hospitals wouldn’t be forced to pay for contraception that’s exactly what the HHS is forcing them to do under ObamaCare!
Good thing we’re only a failshit little country by now, leigh. If this were America we’d need real minds up there.
Where’s feets, BTW? Would be a lot more fun…
Todd Akin? WTF does he have to do with anything?
He makes the knees to jerk and the hounds to salivate.
sloe joe is mellow at the end
Fireside Joe is pretty sure he’s more intelligent than you, newrouter.
The question about the soldier who questioned the “tone” of the campaigns… I don’t want to go all KOS kid here but that sure sounded like a plant for Biden.
He had a rehearsed speech.
Feets is good with the ad homs, that’s for sure.
Riddle me this Outlaws, is my tin-foil too tight or does it sound like Joe got a copy of the questions?
“speeches not leadership”
“That’s what we get in this administration — speeches”
Joe Biden is asking about “equal time”? REALLY??
yes calm things down you proggtard
Judging by these questions, Raddatz thinks this is for king.
Sure Joe, keep whining
sloe joe is going out with a fizzle
Thank God it’s almost over.
Biden did better than Obama.
The British won more ground in second Somme offensive, too.
CNN’s little moving lines audience thinger is really favoring Ryan. Why this is is a mystery but we’ll take it.
BUSH!
sloe joe effed up and he knows it
BIDEN CLOSES WITH “BLAME BooooooooooSHHHHH!”
And class warfare.
Fox will no doubt haul out Luntz the Dunce later.
Level playing field! Ok, Joe.
Sure, Joe, we’re all producers. Where’s my Obamaphone?
Riddle me this Outlaws, is my tin-foil too tight or does it sound like Joe got a copy of the questions?
He probably gave Martha her copy.
Husband about Martha — he points at TV “… and SHE needs to be summarily executed”
Probably true, BMoe.
WHAT I’M GETTING FROM ALL MY FRIENDS: Biden is either acting like the village idiot or a bar heckler.
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I thought that Biden came off as pompous, rubbery, and a bit too oily. I’m not sure how most people will react though. I suspect the press will call it for Biden big time no matter what just to see if they can get that “take” to play for the rest of the week.
“Husband about Martha — he points at TV “… and SHE needs to be summarily executed””
I’d be happy if they could exile her to the Pleistocene era or maybe Plano Texas if that is cheaper.
sloe joe had an energy crash at the end
Joe Biden’s Debate Prep Fuel: M&M’s, Animal Crackers, Energy Drinks, Caffeine and Subs
No small businesses that make over 250K a year are middle class! Pappa sez!
Joe Biden’s laughs = Al Gore’s sighs
I think Biden won this among the uninformed. Ryan had too many opportunities to smack back and he didn’t. Basically leaving the image of Biden laughing as open mockery or the RR ticket.
I think Biden won this among the uninformed
yea that happens when you go from obnoxious clown to mellow bong dude in 90 mins
Meh.
oh my
Angry old man yells at Paul Ryan for 90 minutes
I thought Ryan did better than Biden, but I do not see this changing anything.
Biden teed up some Dem talking points for Obama but that is about it.
My debate thoughts I put up on my Twitter feed, for those interested.
Ryan kept his cool and Biden was a condescending SOB. If nothing else, he out-smirked Obama. He was like the uncle no one really wants to show up at Thanksgiving that does, proceeds to get drunk, shouts at anyone who disagrees with him and pelts your cousin across the table with his dentures yelling “you young whippersnapper!”
Luntz’s dunces are undecided, but lean Obama. The hell?
82 interruptions by Biden, about a half-dozen by Ryan
Hated the whole thing. These aren’t debates: they’re like the bottom third of a comment thread dominated by lawyers, after it has degenerated into “No, what I SAID was…” and “Refer to my comments at 4:26 and 5: 10…”
Only wrapped around the axles from the first minute.
I hate these “debates” anyway. Hate how much weight they’re given, hate that most of the analysis is meta-analysis–presentation, tone, mood, facial expressions–which has exactly nothing to do with how someone might govern.
JHoward says October 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm
CNN’s little moving lines audience thinger is really favoring Ryan. Why this is is a mystery but we’ll take it.
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Primarily because you are delusional as to how an actual candidate for VP is supposed to act. In your fevered world, Paul Ryan “sacks up” and goes across the stage and takes out Biden with a Chuck Norris round house kick.
In the real world he is as respectful of the two douche liberals as Biden is DISrespectful of him.
I really do wish I knew the color of the sky in this hard-on conservative world you guys think we live in. The US leans right and is 40% conservative to 20% liberal. Sadly, you cannot win anything with 40%. It is the OTHER 40% that decides things. This is reality. The US is NOT a hardcore conservative majority country. Period. Stop pretending that it is and that throwing red meat onto the stage by Ryan would be a winning strategy.
Biden just tried that very strategy and came off like an asshole. If you think voters are going to be gung ho to vote for an asshole, you are mistaken.
are going to be gung ho to vote for an asshole, you are mistaken.
go obama/biden 2008!
I really do wish I knew the color of the sky in this hard-on conservative world you guys think we live in.
Well, for starters, in my world, 40 + 40 ? 100.
We’re all agreed that SNL needs to do a Biden skit this weekend portraying Biden as an angry old man yelling at the kids to get off his lawn …..right?
– I don’t do twitter, so I’ll just assume this was sort of grey for you.
– Biden spent most of his time acting the incredulous average guy. He over did it.
– Ryan let Biden get away with blaming the death of 4 Americans and 2+ weeks of straight up lying on R&R. I would have hit him with a fucking chair at that point.
– Parts of this circus was staged. The TV camera even moved a bit to make sure it was squared on Biden when he did his “folks, I just love you all and puppies, and bells ringing so angels get their wings” bullshit.
– That was sooooo obviously staged. A response to all the criticism Bubblefuck got for not engaging the camera’s or Romney in the first debate.
– But Joe, when we said engage we didn’t mean to lens fuck the hardware.
This just in. Vice president Joe Biden has just been awarded the Nobel prize for smirking.
“Primarily because you are delusional as to how an actual candidate for VP is supposed to act. In your fevered world, Paul Ryan “sacks up” and goes across the stage and takes out Biden with a Chuck Norris round house kick.
In the real world he is as respectful of the two douche liberals as Biden is DISrespectful of him.
I really do wish I knew the color of the sky in this hard-on conservative world you guys think we live in. …blah blah blah blah etc.”
The above jackassy rant doesn’t seem well connected to or justified by the post it was supposedly a response to.
– That insufferable smirking Mick would have lasted about 2 minutes in my neighborhood.
When a wise man debates with a fool, the fool rages and laughs and there is no peace and quiet. ~ Proverbs 29:9
– Where the hell is McGehee?
Where the hell is McGehee?
Twittering.
Ryan did fine. Biden did okay, but hurt himself with the smirks. I do not see this changing anything from immediately before the debate.
BBH, I’ve seen guys who acted like Biden get knocked into next week, back in the day.
His SS guys probably feel like knocking him out most of the time.
I do not see this changing anything from immediately before the debate.
yea r&r trashing the proggtard asshats
Deadrody —
Who are you responding to? Read my Twitter feed.
You fancy yourself some sort of super smart realist. You aren’t. You’re mostly just a RINO apologist.
Me, I do realism when it seems appropriate. Tell me what you think about my debate assessment. Go on, I’ll wait.
Holy moly! Juan Williams is giving Jason Chaffetz hell for saying Biden lied.
“Ohmygod! You’re calling him a liar?
And he’s repeating DWS lie about how the administration didn’t know that they needed more securityin Benghazi.
Give me strength.
So the intelligence reports about Bengazi were wrong but the intelligence about Iran is dead solid perfect?
Biden looks like he wears dentures to me.
That’s pretty funny about the central incisor, Jeff.
Well duh, BT. These guys make me crazy.
– Leigh, Juan has evolved to the quintessential resident showcase token black. They wheel him out whenever Fox feels like they need a little more fair and balanced.
So the intelligence reports about Bengazi were wrong but the intelligence about Iran is dead solid perfect?
some straw man stupid dat
bt invests in straw dat’s all
Steely Dan Youtube yeah NR
BBH, if you ever watch “The Five” when he’s on it, it is totally obvious that he would be a terrible dinner guest.
He laughs at the wrong time, makes inappropriate sexual remarks to the girls and has talked crap to Bolling about sports. I guess he forgot that Eric played baseball professionally before he turned into a market guru.
Yeah, but many renters feel that way about their scumbag landlord.
Heh.
I await the tell-all books, geoff.
So the intelligence reports about Bengazi were wrong but the intelligence about Iran is dead solid perfect?
wrong about what bt? you deflect to sumthing stupid? steely dan? you obama/proggtard dudes ply your stupidity.
Well according to the Obama Administration the reports about the attack on the Benghazi consulate were a result of the infamous Youtube video came from the intelligence community. At least that is the excuse du jour. Don’t see how that is a straw man. Then again i don’t see how your labeling of anyone you don’t know as an obama/progtard has any basis in reality either. So there is that.
Ryan let Biden get away with the “we inherited” bullshit.
Biden’s been in the United States Government for the better part of 40 years. He didn’t inherit shit. He’s been there for every crooked logrolling spending spree and voted for all of the “deregulation” he now decries.
– I’m waiting for a lot more shit to hit the fan as the intel people realize they’re first on the “under the bus” list. Issa came right out and openly invited whistle blowers the other day, promising them total immunity if they want to sing.
– The question I wanted to slap sloe Joe with when he started the “It’s Romney’s fault” whining BS is “You’re yammering about ‘inappropriate’ questions during an investigation you can’t even conduct. How inappropriate was it to put out that total crap story in the first few hours, and then continue to lie about it over and over for two weeks?
go with the liars what lie
Well according to the Obama Administration the reports about the attack on the Benghazi consulate were a result of the infamous Youtube video came from the intelligence community. At least that is the excuse du jour. Don’t see how that is a straw man. Then again i don’t see how your labeling of anyone you don’t know as an obama/progtard has any basis in reality either. So there is that.
– Also, just where did this other BS story get its legs. As I recall unemployment stood at 5.7^ when Bush left office.
– They didn’t inherit squat. The investment people saw us elect a damn Socialist and headed for the exits. They caused, they didn’t inherit.
Joe Joe Biden in Episode I “The Phantom Menace”.
Is it just me, or did Biden spend the first 1/2 hour trying to bribe voters?
So I didn’t watch it, but did we find out the Taliban is in the White House?
Let’s just put it this way: you’d have thought Biden would have got the news before tonight, and that Obama would have gotten the news before doing Letterman.
WE know that Hillary knew when she was lying over the coffins of the dead. Perhaps she even told Obama?
The intelligence community is going to bite back. Wonder if we’ll see coverage of it.
– We found out from Biden that it “doesn’t matter if Iran gets the bomb, because they don’t have a bomb or a missile to put it in.”
– God help us. These are the assholes running the country.
How did the Yankees lose that game? How?: they suck, that’s how.
– The Titans kicked a field goal in the last minute of the game, that’s how.
Yeah BBH, I wondered about that too. Iran can enrich Plutonium to weapons grade material, but they can’t figure out a delivery system (9-11 aside). Does anyone really believe that?
TITANS WIN!!1!11!1!
what’d I miss?
Fuck. I DVRed the game.
Guess I don’t need to watch it now.
sdferr i was kind of hoping for an O’s-A’s series but it wasn’t meant to be.
– Aw crap Jeff. Sorry, didn’t think that some may not have watched it.
– There’s a 90 minute video of the attack which the lairs in the hearing finally fessed up too when one of the security people mentioned it.
– It’s a real time that Lamb admitted she watched later THAT NIGHT. So the bullshit story was concocted by Hill and her staff, and the WH.
– Supposedly the FBI had a copy and sent it back to “another agency”. They wouldn’t say which one. The FBI said they didn’t need it for their investigation. Apparently they can do the investigation with no information.
– ISSA has demanded a copy for review. So the real time video shows the attack, that there was no “protest”. Where did the video story come from?
From pre-debate news.
Great work Dave, keep it up!
I haven’t watched a debate since 2000. Saw Lieberman marveling at how much money Cheney made in the private sector and joke about how he ought to try it, to which Cheney replied, “I’m here to help you do that, Joe.”
I figured future debates couldn’t possibly be any better than that, so why bother?
““doesn’t matter if Iran gets the bomb, because they don’t have a bomb or a missile to put it in.””
Which is where Pakistan and North Korea likely come in…
Bidens conduct — disgraceful, disgusting, offensive, nauseating, inappropriate, unbecoming low life behaviour…
Hey Biden your the friggin Vice President of The United States, not some punk kid in a school yard fight …. try acting like a statesman
Ps
Mr.Biden, about your Iran policy ..
you do not need a special war head or a nuclear missle or a long range rocket to detonate a nuclear weapon … hint
“dirty bomb”
you clueless retard .. and that is no joke Joey
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Go ahead, send her here. That will give Darleen’s husband what he wants.
Guess I don’t need to watch it now.
Consider it a favor, Jeff. That game was a parade of dropped balls, bad tackles, and every flavor of sloppy play you can imagine. I’m feeling stupid for having watched it; doubly so for staying up to see the end.
Yeah, Lee, it’s like a shipping container is too high-tech…..
Obama sent Spongejoe Hairplugs to a knife fight, forgetting that nobody lets Joe have anything more dangerous than a plastic spoon.
“Obama sent Spongejoe Hairplugs to a knife fight, forgetting that nobody lets Joe have anything more dangerous than a plastic spoon.”
Examined for actual content Biden’s many assertions and disconnects were nothing short of a death-knell for his party, if not simply his country should his country follow him. How strange then that these were his chosen themes? Must be he had no idea what he was saying, and remains as he had been before a mendacious boob.
That game was a parade of dropped balls, bad tackles, and every flavor of sloppy play you can imagine. I’m feeling stupid for having watched it; doubly so for staying up to see the end.
That it was. My kid was practically crying into his Terrible Towel.