Post whatever you feel like posting here. Because most everyone has made up his or her mind at this point — except for maybe Ann Althouse and Colin Powell. And frankly, I don’t care what either does with their votes. It’s just that I’ll be damned if I’m going to let Ms Althouse hedge her bet, vote for Obama yet again, and then blame people like me for pushing her into it once it all goes sideways.
You’re a big girl, Ann. With a vote all your own. You’ve come a long way, baby. Own it.
*****
update: What you won’t hear at the debate this evening (courtesy Pablo):
The no votes on the Katrina Stafford Act waiver:
Boxer (D-CA)
Burr (R-NC)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coburn (R-OK)
Dodd (D-CT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Obama (D-IL)
Sanders (I-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
Obama used the fact of a waiver — which he was among only a handful to vote for denying New Orleans — to suggest that the powerful didn’t much care for the people of New Orleans, for some reason.
Race-baiting tied to a bald-faced lie that can only work because he believe the audience he was speaking to too ignorant to see past his huckster act.
He is who he is.
nobody has posted yet? oh well, not watching, told RTO I’ll be reading Her Secret Bodyguard cause if I’m gonna get worked up about something it might as well be fun.
Ann should vote like her “ladyparts depend on it”, and no one cares more about her ladyparts than Obama and the Democrats. Or at least no one else has been willing to go on record about it.
Here’s a rebuttal from Nick Gillespie that I believe makes some sense from a tactical perspective. Sort of what I was trying to get at last week about there being more to it than just being right.
Oh now he isn’t serving dinner till 8:30. So I can’t avoid it.
“I’ve got Obama to your head, and if each and every one of you don’t do as I say, I’sagonna pull the trigger.”
Ah, the most important point he’ll make tonight is that it’s his anniversary. I suspect he may be right.
baracky : blagh blah blah
invest in energy the baracky says with a commie face
The president has said “we” more in this segment than he has said in his entire presidency.
more education union jobs
“Race to the Top?” Figured Barrack would be the first to bring race into the discussion.
“Middle income Americans are being buried”
Thanks, Honest Joe!
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baracky ain’t looking at mittens
“Race to the Top?” Figured Barack would be the first to bring race into the discussion.
He’s doing a lot of agreeing with Obama while telling him he’s wrong. That’s probably a good thing.
Mitt, drop “not accurate” and go with “not true.”
Vote for President Ladyparts?
Good point, Pablo.
When Obama says he cut taxes for the middle class is her talking about the payroll tax holiday? If so that was across the board.
straw man outed
oh my mittens said boy when talking to baracky
Obama does not have fire in the belly. He looks like he would rather be anywhere but where he is .
Romney has called him aliar, in a nice way more than once. Obama is stumbling quite a bit and just hauled the corpse of Clinton’s policies out.
There is no way Buh-rock isn’t going to lose his shit before 90 minutes is up.
Obama zingers are falling flat
“blowing up our deficit”? go to hell
For Baracky, that’s Presidenting. He likes campaigning, running the okey-doke.
Quick poll. Who is the grownup on the stage?
“Jim, get me out of this, would you?”
“jim you may want to move on to another topic” ha
Shorter Romney: “Stop lying.”
Good message.
Jim, throw me a bone here!
Baracky is looking down a lot, but they’re keeping the camera off him. Wide shots, please!
Romney just called Obama’s policies immoral.
It’s on!
Just got home (been listening on the radio) and what I notice is that Mitt is looking directly at Barry and he refuses to look at him.
Booooosh
Ah, Barry is blaming Bush again!
Ya gotta stick with your strengths, Darleen. ; 0
bowles simpson that i ignored ha
doesn’t get the job done
Oopsy … camera just caught Barry glaring at Mitt.
you effin’ liar
time for the war on oil
Barry: We need to ASK for revenue (tax hike)
Mitt: We need to grown the revenue with more people working (cut taxes)
Lies, lies, lies.
“Why would you allow Exxon to make a profit?”
Please, God let Mitt explain it to Jughead.
the corporate tax is tied to your local school board. stinky bs
SOLYANDRA
“you pick the losers”
Romney on green energy “investments”: “You don’t pick winners and losers, you pick losers.”
Nice.
Mitt let’s him have it over his boilerplate bs.
“You only pick the losers (energy)”
Heh.
rescue me jim
you don’t pick the winner and losers. you pick the losers.
O invokes Reagan.
Obama: “Social Security is structurally sound”
Yeah, good call, Baracky!
Violin out for typical white granny and SSI.
“Social Security is basically sound”
WTF? Was Barry doing a little choom in the green room?
Grandma really needed Medicare. So I could inherit half a million in bank stock from her.
You’d assume that Maya Soetoro got the other half of a million.
Damn, I turned off the debate just as Obama was riffing on companies shipping jobs overseas.
Turned the debate back on 20 minutes later and Obama is again riffing on shipping jobs overseas.
Obama evidently thinks “debate” means “trot out the shopworn campaign talking points and lies.”
Romney is cleaning his clock on Medicare.
If this was a dogfight, the President would have the throttle in burner twisting and turning on the edge of a stall while Governor Romney would be coasting above and a little behind him with a few degrees of bank on, just enjoying the show before he got down to deciding between guns or a sidewinder…
This isn’t pretty. But life seldom is.
@althouse.
Look away Ann! Look away! It’s so UGLY. LOL!!!
Oh, and congrats to Romney, he found a way to call Obama a liar without actually saying “you just lied.”
Barry looking annoyed … Mitt is no McCain in debates
“if you’re 54-55 listen”
i am asshat
Doesn’t Obamacare offer premium support?
“At the mercy of the Private Insurance system”. . . . so GOVERNMENT TO THE RESCUE!!
Obama in da weeds, now.
Jim! Jim! Ask me about my kids, please!
Obama “EVIL INSURANCE COMPANIES ONLY GOVERNMENT CAN PROTECT YOU!!”
He’s reading his prompts. He’s Manchurean.
And Romney sucks. Rocked back on his heels in a defensive posture against this pathological liar.
Barry’s rolled out at-some-point-you’ve-made-enough-already. Unwise.
He looks pretty relaxed to me, JHo.
JH
Romney sucking more or less than McCain?
Baracky likes to say “Every study has shown…” a lot. That’s bullshit, of course.
Mitt just floated the idea of free market choice. He did so passively. Go Mitt.
Darleen, against the momentum that Is BHO, Romney needs to be doing a LOT better than this four years after McCain lost his ass.
Look, BHO is a pathological liar. Smiling Mitt won’t beat him and his establishment like this.
oh noes ” prophet”
Yep – math says we’re going to have to means-test Entitlements. There’s no escaping it. And if you’re under 50, might as well plan on it.
“Every free economy has good regulation” -M. Romney, POTUS debate, Oct 2012.
One word that does not describe Baracky: Commanding.
If facial expressions tell the story, Barry is getting his clock cleaned.
More lies. Banksters this time.
Hey, why don’t you tell us about how you were suing banks to make these shitty home loans, Baracky?
Not true. I know personally of a bank that’s still sitting on TARP $$ today.
“Some parts of Dodd-Frank make sense” -M. Romney, POTUS debate, Oct 2012.
To which Barry blames Bush and all the colored girls go do, do-do, do, etc.
/hands up.
JH
Mitt enumerated what parts were good (transparency) and what is wrong (designating 5 banks as too big to fail … cronyism)
Barry is scowling all over the place … except for the sneering smile at one part
jho this is the “best” we can do now
He was referencing regulation being necessary.
Flame away but the Old Libertarian Kook on this particular stage would be laughing at the Communist at this point. It would have been carnage. Would have been worth it…
Lies about Ocare now.
OK, Obama remembers to look at camera. Ha ha ha ha.
baracky don’t look at the mittens
It’s just that he can defend it no better than we can’t.
“you keep it” hahaha
Thin skin “I had 5 seconds before you interrupted me…”
hmmmm he’s looking away again at the only friendly face in the crowd..
Mitt is pounding him on Obamacare and Barry is really pursing lips and looking disgusted…
Romney looks at Obama while talking to Obama. Obama looks into space.
Obama is stringing talking points together.
I am somehow not surprised.
O fired all turrets on Romneycare.
And Romney just punched back twice as hard. Oh wow.
Now you’re finally attacking juggy, Mitt. DO NOT RELENT.
Romney and Lehrer are both to Obama’s right. He keeps looking left.
Pablo
Barry is looking for help …
ooohhhhh and Mitt is looking at Mr. O. Steadily. I think he sees a crosshair pattern…
Can anyone tell the differences?
When has Mr O LOOKED at Mitt for more than 10 seconds?
President’s left hand man begs for money just before the President goes on stage.
JHo, and there are two more debates to go.
He’s no RP, but he’s not a lying mutherfucker like we have now.
Ya, the same central, organization that botched and is covering up terrorist attacks in Northern Africa can successfully organize and streamline my upcoming series of medical tests. Brilliant!
Axelrodent is probably in the wings, Pablo.
He can’t beat the lying mutherfucker on his own mental turf, leigh.
OMG. Obama is babbling on his rebuttal to Romney’s clarification of the differences between R care and O care.
Barry IS being fed prompts via iPrompter on the podium, people.
jug ears
Well, he’s all over the place if he is being prompted.
babbling now barry
Obama is making me dizzy with his circular logic.
Barry is stuttering … he can’t understand why his HolyFirstAfricanAmericanPresidentEVAH aura doesn’t have Mitt conceding the election right here and now.
scoamf!!11!!
Romney is vastly better in this venue, but he needs to attack the status quo, educate using bold strokes, and simply refuse to play the game.
It’s concerning that he’s choosing to defend against lies. Juggy has reinvented himself on stage in the length of time this has been going on. In that regard it’s not a debate as much as it is a campaign speech for the impressionable. It’s platitudes to a nation ruined by his very policies and those of his commanders.
Attack, Mitt.
Obama is arguing AGAINST his own policies and beliefs right now.
benghanzi
Romney has math and facts on his side and is actually a pretty dry wit.
I’m pleased.
Lehrer is going to be out of a job if he doesn’t do a better job of saving Obama’s bacon. Having the moderator on your side is bullshit.
He just pulled the CoC card. I guess he forgot that govs are CoCs too.
No, he’s hauling Lincoln across the stage.
Marone!
Barry: “First role of Fed Gov is to keep America safe”
Chris Stevens could not be reached for comment
I’ma be quiet about Lincoln.
More talking points. Lincoln. Federal Government CAN…
Trainwreck.
Yeah keep america safe one consular safehouse at a time. From deadly youtube movies. And Prophet slanderin’.
the waterfront hi prop is awaiting baracky.
I going to get up early for the Glenn Beck show tomorrow.
More platitudes. He is arguing against himself. He’s literally helpless against his own schizo.
JH Romney is staying within his game plan. He’s a numbers guy, not a gunslinger or a big vision guy.
go mittens
Best segment so far for Mitt.
Whoa. Classical liberalism from Mitt? Please don’t be pillow talk, big guy.
Roger that, BT.
For months he’s been begged to speak up, BT.
Maybe he’ll take you to dinner and a movie next debate, JHo. ; )
Alcohol is the key to deal with Ann Althouse, Colin Powell, and Barack Obama.
you don’t have a budget knucklehead
“Our Race To The Top Program”.
Screw you, collectivist.
Obama brought up …. budgets.
Hanging curve ball…..
From twitter: @BillMaher: i can’t believe i’m saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter
Obama’s don’t have the facts.
“You’re not entitled to your own facts.”
Go Mitt.
I’m watching on CSpan. last time i was presented with Romney unfiltered at the Convention. All the rest of what i have seen of him has been filtered by the media. So it’s good to see him take this opportunity to differentiate himself from Obama without scaring the old ladies.
ooh, Barry just stuck a foot in it. FREE SCHOOL, KINDA, SORTA. M’CHELLE AND ME AND LIKE THAT.
90 billion to green jobs over teachers! Kampai!
Closing statements…jägermiester!
Aw, “partisan gridlock”. Poor Jim…but this plays straight to the Socialists.
did OB just concede the election?
Mitt bitchslaps Barry over bipartisanship.
Barry gets snarky and tries to wise-off. And lies somemore.
Will R point out that there IS NO FEDERAL BUDGET these last three years…?
Leher has blown this gig.
i’ll take ideas from any fellow commies-baracky
Because govt’s job is getting things done, right Mitt?
And boom; Barry knocks bipartisanship up against the fence for extra bases. Nice. Thanks, Jim.
“I’ve done it before, I’ll do it again”
I’m calling this a Romney win. While Obama talks about how he ended the war as he promised.*
*By following the Bush negotiated Status of Forces Agreement to the letter.
Obama is incoherent.
Wrong debate.
Lerher needs to go to the old moderators home.
O blames Booooooooosh in his closing statement and tells stale stories.
dicktator filibuster
BOOOSH!
good allan go to hell baracky
O really really really doesn’t want to be laid off.
But as Clint said, sometimes you just have to let them go.
“Everybody’s playing by the same rules.” Because government.
Fuck you.
Romney talks about his record and how Obama’s is the suxxor in comparison.
Sully says this is a “calamity for Obama”.
Heh.
“I’m calling this a Romney win”
Press will fix that.
Lehrer a tiny mofo isn’t he.
I thought Romney won.
Back in 1978 high school debate competition, Mrs. Atteway would have ended the debate when Obama said “etcetera” in his argument.
Fine times.
Sully as in Andy “Palin’s womb will kill us all!” Sullivan?
Yep. Buy stock in TelePrompTer, quick!
Yup. NYT says he killed, too.
Pat “quasi-isolationist and hard money and close the borderswhile you are at it” Buchanan liked what he saw of Mitt tonight.
This debate was refreshing. Glad I watched it. Many on the Left won’t be so happy! *
Romney was the clear winner. The O! is supposed to be a man of superlative rhetorical skills, far above the skills of ordinary men.
Instead, we saw the Barry we all know and despise, the stuttering clusterfuck of a failure.
Haven’t yet watched the debate – DVRed it — but while I was at the liquor store the after show was on (chick was watching CBS), and all I heard in my two minutes there was how Repubs had logged 50 HOURS OF DEBATE TIME DURING THE PRIMARY, and yet miraculously, Obama held his own, and even managed to confound Romney by repeatedly hitting him on his controversial tax plan to club the middle class.
I nearly vomited.
“Is an Ass Kicking covered under Obamacare?” h/t Dennis Miller
Sometimes I think Mitt understands the role of government, sometimes not.
But that was one boring debate.
How come we can’t get that hot blonde at FOX to moderate?
Jeff, you missed a great bit by Romney. Romney put a huge beatdown on Barry when Romney compared the 90 billion in tax breaks Obama gave to bankrupt alternative energy companies versus the 2.8 billion in tax breaks to oil companies. During the beatdown, Romney mentioned one of the bankrupt companies by name, Solyndra.
@Blake – then circled back around to the same $90B during education to suggest you could hire 2 MILLION teachers for that amount.
Romney won Debate One. Even Andrew Sullivan is crying. Schadenfreude.
Maybe Obama-ites should have set the preemptive, low expectation bar . . . um . . . a little lower?
Jrez, I missed that bit also. Excellent job by Romney, circling back around like that. Good way to drive home the point.
Isn’t it ironic that the candidate from 4 years ago who was the blank slate upon whom we could project our hopes, takes to task the GOP candidate for not drilling down to level 4 of his various plans.
Specificity for thee but not for me.
Holy crap, just saw this link on Instapundit
MATT WELCH: “That wasn’t a debate so much as Mitt Romney just took Obama for a cross country drive strapped to the roof of his car.”
undecided co voters are douchebags imho
Breitbart live media blog. Heh.
The best part was watching MSNBC after. Chrissy melted down. That makes it all the sweeter. Can’t wait for Biden/Ryan.
Sears Poncho, That song from the Vacation movie is now stuck in my head. Holiday Road indeed.
wheels from the clown car
UPDATE: “i can’t believe i’m saying this, but Obama looks like he DOES need a teleprompter,” says…Bill Maher?!
link
Remember back when you played little league ball and they had the mercy rule? Will there be some similar relief available for Biden next week when Ryan completely mops the floor w/ poor Uncle Joe?
Gonna watch it now with some Bacardi Gold and ginger ales. This was a drink made famous by some semi-pro golfer named CJ at the Crease in Towson, MD: he would order one in a tall glass and chug it on hot day like Mean Joe Greene chugging a Coke.
When I barbacked there — lot of work, lot movement, busy place, kegs needed to be carried from downstairs to the back bar, trash routinely emptied — the bartenders would wait for me and the other barback to work up a sweat and then leave us a CJ on the end of the bar for us. We’d dutifully chug. Good stuff. Good times.
Tonight, I’ma hit a CJ everytime I hear “economic patriotism” — which is merely dog whistle for “if you were really a good citizen, you’d let us have your money and do all your investing for you; we would also take care of you from cradle to grave.” Like a lifelong nursing home, almost.
When I vomit in the morning, I’ll have had a damn good set of reasons.
Incidentally, U of Denver is where I did my PhD work. Brian Kiteley teaches there. I wonder if he tried to run onstage in a “code pink / kill the teabaggers who are, like, southern racists!” t-shirt.
Romney was tenacious and dogged. Obama wasn’t. Truly, a schooling he took.
Next time, he’ll be ferocious, and possibly angry, needing to recover what this one will cost him. Mitt will keep his sea legs, and his respectful but tough demeanor. After all, he’s a good Mormon man; and that’s meant as a compliment.
I could never develop a taste for the rums. Except when they’re mixed well in Long Island Teas, of course.
Didn’t watch any of the debate, but I think it’s safe to say that we’ll know Romney won if tomorrow’s spin is how disrespectful of the President he was tonight.
I’m trying to live-blog too. Not sure how much I have to say, but there’s a very active comments thread.
Posted by Ann Althouse at 10:04 pm
is anybody interested is the ?
Luntz’s focus group of formerly 23 undecideds on Fox are giving a pretty stunning account for why all but 3 all of them think Romney won and would now support him.
Mark Levin…
Ann blows goats. That is all.
I like a rum and coke now and then.
Usually when I’ve run out of George Dickel or Jim Beam Devil’s Cut
Stolen Joke from Breitbart comments:
“I thought Mitt Romney must be Obama’s new janitor or something because he really thoroughly cleaned Obama’s clock tonight. “
TRS celebrates with Chris Matthews.
Here’s a question.
If Romney did as well as seems to be the case (I didn’t watch, just followed along some “live” threads,) does the legacy media redouble their efforts to drag Obama across the finish line, or do they climb down and try to get some of their collective credibility back? You know, maybe really getting after this administration about Libya, Fast and Furious, frakkin’ chronic unemployment?
I honestly couldn’t say which way they will jump come tomorrow and the rest of the week. Thoughts?
does the legacy media redouble their efforts to drag Obama across the finish line,
they made the baracky they can destroy it
Romney rocked!
So when can we expect those Lefty pundits – the ones who claimed Romney was on his last gasp coming into the debate & needed to somehow equal master debater Obama – to move the goalposts?
Fun fact re: green energy – the wife of CO Congressman Ed Perlmutter (D) is a lobbyist for…Solyndra! Benefited quite a bit since her hubby joined Congress in 2007, eh?
The baracky can also destroy the media (and quite possibly already has though they know it not). He’s like any homonculus that escapes its creator’s control. Easily perverted instructions are not a soul. His presidency has no soul. It is a wind up gone amuck. Amuck amuck amuck!
Has Althouse given us permission to comment on Barry’s debate performance?
No. My advice to debate-goers: bring a tarp.
Meet John Doe: Final scenes
Legacy Media are kind of like Congress, they’re lifers. The presidency is a revolving door every four to eight years.
Depending on how the Wonce acts out tomorrow and the rest of the week, they may just decide to cut their losses and write some actual news (and tell-all books, of course). After all, they’ve assuaged their white guilt and been in Buh-rock’s corner for four+ years and he doesn’t give them any love. Their self-esteem is plobably suffering.
They’re probably all exhausted and need a nice vacation with a new non-exotic president for a few years before they sharpen up the knives again.
– The media elitists? My guess is they’ll start sidling toward the exits like Krugman if they see enough serious signs of blood in the water.
– Same with the “polls”. They’ve been propping Jug ears up for the entire summer, but if they smell a trend they’ll start checking out as well.
– If a stampede starts to form the collapse could be breath taking. But first they’ll try to narrate a faux victory for the Wonce and see how it floats.
– My money is on a collapse, mainly because I notice the tone of comments on the Lefturd outlets has changed dramatically since the Benghazi disaster.
– If it ever becomes fashionable to actually hold Bummblefuck responsible, he’ll be vacationing in Hawaii this winter, unemployed.
– The only thing keeping him afloat at this point is the slavering press and the hard assed synchophants. The young turk gaggle has pretty much checked out.
– That also means that when Ann grows up she can vote for Romney guilt-free.
GMTA, BBH.
Obama tanks on InTrade. Heh.
Sweet stuff: The Great — B.B. King
from Twitter
Sweet
Someone check the weather … I think a snowstorm started in Hell
I never thought I’d see THAT front page!
I read somewhere that Code Pink was going to have someone there dressed as a vagina.
I have a sickening feeling that the MSM will suddenly switch from Obama propagandists/stenographers and suddenly embrace their inner Woodward and Bernstein, in an attempt to salvage a little credibility. And it will be a sight to see. “What about this Fast and Furious thing! And that thing in Benghazi! Ordering Lockheed to disobey the law, guaranteed with taxpayer money! Outrageous! We told you so all along.” Indeed, it probably started before tonight; it seems Benghazi was the turning point, then Krugman/NYT led the way, as always. Now with this debate, the MSM may be heading for the exits. Already tonight, Yahoo News headlines “Mitt Romney takes control at First Debate”, from something much more neutral two hours ago. Oh, to be a fly on the wall on Journalist; they must be all a-flutter. Tomorrow should be an interesting day to watch the MSM, or maybe I’m just too cynical…
OT, Jeff, I figured out how to get your Obama summation distillation from a few posts back to fit neatly in 140 characters. The Obama pic is from tonight’s debate, posted at buzzfeed.
Good stuff, serr8d. Thanks!
::snort:: from twitter
#ObamaDebateExcuses I hurt my ladyparts
Biden = watermelon
Ryan = Gallagher
serr8d, Darleen, Pablo, you just made my day.
They realized they couldn’t compete with the vaginO! onstage….
There probably ought to be a betting pool on the number of times Ryan laughs at Biden straight into Biden’s face.