h/t Smitty
Meanwhile, Egyptian Islamist leader Morsi makes his demands of American behavior known.
On the eve of his first trip to the United States as Egypt’s new Islamist president, Mohamed Morsi said the United States needed to fundamentally change its approach to the Arab world, showing greater respect for its values and helping build a Palestinian state, if it hoped to overcome decades of pent-up anger. […]
“Successive American administrations essentially purchased with American taxpayer money the dislike, if not the hatred, of the peoples of the region,” he said, by backing dictatorial governments over popular opposition and supporting Israel over the Palestinians.
Well, Obama’s Cairo speech during his apology tour certainly went over well, doncha know?
Forward!
It’s not going to be easy getting rioting, arson, sodomy and murder legalised, but you have to admire his optimism.
” The righteous words you’ll never hear from the Obama admin”
“Keep you own money. You’ve earned it!”
Nice use of “probably” and “of course”.
Of course there are others there who state things plainer.
Tony Badran gives some background:
Really, I gotta say, if the Egyptians want to run their place like a 12th Century craphole, I’m starting to think we should let ’em, but on our way out, we have to remind them – and the rest of the world – that actions have consequences. Start with seeding the then-abandoned embassy grounds with landmines, and wing it from there.
I can’t think of a better model than General Sir Charles James Napier, when receiving complaints from hindu priests, concerning suttee, responded:
“Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs.
And be it so. Let these ‘sovereign nations’ act in whatever way they wish, along with accepting the consequences. It’ll be rough for a while on foreign travellers until a significant portion of Americans stop worshipping dickless, feculant bastards (of whatever party). We could achieve a lot more with a lot less politicians, period, because I’d rather eat a smaller shit sandwich than a Shit Royale with a large vanilla milkshake, really.
Napier’s quote above is quite well known, but one of his others should be remembered too:
“… the human mind is never better disposed to gratitude and attachment than when softened by fear.”
Let’s start out sowing a little fear. If we feel like it, we’ll go back later and get some gratitude and attachment.
This kind of game has been played by the left too and always ends with the “moderate” caving to the radicals. In Islam this has been playing out for over 1000 years and the ones most rabidly defending the honor of the prophet most always win.
I tend to agree with you, geoff. At first I just assumed that the MB was colluding with the rioters, but having read Badran’s piece, I think it is more than it first appeared. The MB response could be to try to outflank the Salafists on outrage, but of course it depends on how much they and Morsi value whatever it is they get out of the relationship with the US.
I’m with Mr. Condell: Their rage does not impress me. I don’t care.
Regarding Egypt, it’s interesting that Morsi is demanding we change our approach. I’m with Rand Paul’s approach: no more funding. Oh, and good luck without the revenue from tourism now that you’ve scared everyone away.
Morsi seems to think he’s ENTITLED to our money. I’m hoping President Romney will disabuse him of this notion.
And both parties want to keep on funding these allah pukes. National suicide.
From the Feb 9th 2011 statement by the Muslim Brotherhood about the “Arab Spring”.
May I suggest our first fundamental change be the immediate cessation of all further aid?
Silver linings thinking, probably…
If the UN general assembly did pass such a motion by simple majority, might it be the straw that finally causes our cowardly political class to finally step up and seek a League of Democracies…?
I know it will not happen but wishes don’t cost nothing. Unless you are a statist sitting in the oval office, of course.
seek a League of Democracies…?
oh good egypt can join
U.S. out of U.N.
U.N. out of U.S.
Let the barbarians pass resolutions about each other all they want to, after which they can kill each other to their heart’s content.
The U.N. only exists to control the behavior of the U.S. Eff that.
Pat Condell is sort of a dick, towards anyone with any religious beliefs whatsoever. Think a more nuanced happyfeet.
That said, he does nail the Islamacysts. For whatever good that does anyone, because even when they are nailed, they don’t learn from it.
The US has sent the palis billions in aid over the years hoping they’d come to their senses. They trash everything they touch. At this points, its obvious sending any more is just throwing good money after bad.
We have to accept that the smart one got the hell out years ago, and its only the defectives and malcontents that are left.
because even when they are nailed, they don’t learn from it.
proggtards too
Steal stuff from your friends and sell it for OBAMA!!!! Good causes and all.
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Maybe they should put some of that decades old pent-up anger to good use and build the Palestinians a state themselves instead of waiting for us to do it for them.
They don’t want a Palestinian state. They want the Jews to leave or die. After that, no one will care about the “Palestinians.”
I has numerous nuances plus also various inflections I’m practically kaleidoscopic sometimes!
Today I woke up in Roswell, which is in New Mexico. There’s an iron cross there what some German pows made in some work they did as part of a flood control project. It was covered up by concrete almost immediately after. It was hidden for many moons but you can see it now.. Kinda spooky.
Also today I saw a muntjac.
Heh. Cheers, ‘feets! Been watching the Emmys?
Oh, and this.
Hopefully you sported a camera, took a picture of it and can link, so’s I can judge the quality of teh spookiness?
what’s the eats in roswell ‘feets?
Here is a link
http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/87554623@N05/8018308798/
Didn’t really eat in Roswell… I ate in Hatch… In New Mexico they do this thing where you can order enchiladas with a fried egg on top! So clever and so so tasty.
They had a chinese/mexican place in Roswell (may have been called margarita’s) … I was intrigued but didn’t stop. Roswell is kind of a sad place. Bikers and alien kitsch and old people.
what no prussian food?
I’m not sold that it’s at all spooky, ‘feets. As an artifact that’s miles from home, lost in space and time, sure, but spooky needs another element besides bright sunlight.
Perhaps if you go back, at sunset or sunrise, and get some nice shadows or gloom?
Here. This is spooky.
OT –
Today, the SCOTUS is saying whether they’re going to hear this case.
A prediction:
They refuse, and Obama pardons the guy two days before the election in a brazen attempt to win Florida.
(Watch the video, but watch out for the execrable DWS at 7:46, doing the right thing for a change).
the woods are lovely dark and deep and also spooky
“The new Egyptian political class was simply conducting politics as usual. If the US is going to navigate the terrain of post-Arab Spring politics, it needs to recognize these dynamics of inter-Islamist and inter-Arab competition for power and prestige.”
I get what he’s saying, but pressure on the MB from the Salafis has a distinct “please don’t throw me in the briar patch” odor, at least as far as Morsi is concerned.
I don’t think their goals are all that different. What differs is which personnel have their hands on the tiller.
Did Morsi just say that we should stop paying those barbaric fucks?
I’m in full agreement.
I agree Dale.
It is more like, to me, where the EPA grants money to an outfit like NRDC which they then use to sue the EPA in court, where the EPA puts up at most a token defense, “forcing” them to implement new regulations which they can say “We didn’t want to do this but we have to.”
NRDC gives EPA cover to do what they really want but have to hide their intent from the public. Salafi’s give the MB cover to do what they really want but have to hide their intent in order to continue to get aid.
They could also be seen as playing “good cop” [MB], “bad cop” [Salafi] against the West.
I saw that late last week, Rand Paul got the Senate to vote on his bill cutting off Egypt, Libya and a couple of other Middle Eastern countries- the bill was defeated by something like 80-20. I’d love to know the rationale behind the Republicans who voted against the bill. If i was Romney, one of my primary foreign policy initiatives, in light of the past two weeks, would be to cut off any payments to the vast majority of Middle Eastern countries. Is Barack Hussein Obama really going to hang his campaign on our broke country sending billions to crazies to hate us?
This “foreign aid” BS and the failure to address it in post 9-11 times, is mind boggling to me. Anyone know why no prominent politician besides Paul seems to want to address it ? What do we get out of paying the Muslim Brotherhood?
If you think foreign aid is of any value, then I could see a reasonable argument to vote “no” with respect to Libya. The Libyans per se (as opposed to the Al Qaeda presence) really aren’t the problem, and conflating them with the problems of Pakistan and Egypt is counterproductive.
I tend to think of it as more like: To jaw- jaw is always better than to war-war. But mileage varies on this. What used to be accomplished through one-on-one jaw-jawing is now many on many.
But the presumption of the UN as an efficient accomplisher of anything at all is silly and unfounded. It’s a pipe organ, driven by warm air.
nn + vi = bs
If only you’d phoned, we’d’ve arranged a parade.
Today I went looking for what had been the largest concrete structure in the whole whirl in 1903.
Found it!
http://m.flickr.com/lightbox?id=8022290128
That is a pic… It’s still used today… I got a picture there of the top part too and also the very leaky underside.
The carlsbadders light it up at night but I didn’t linger.