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That’s a good book, by the way.
oh shoot, Ernst, didn’t know that was a book!
(now on my to buy list)
– Since the Lefturds are so found of the sayings of Marx if I had the tools I’d make one of those likw this:
– On the R side:
From each according to their charity
Too each according to their industry
– On the O side:
From each according to their gullibility
Too eaxh according to their slouth
– Clear enough?
Damn! Look what I found!
Gladly.
It’s a good book Darleen. Well worth the read.
From page 110 (opened at random), as underlined by an inveterate annotator:
So, John Corzine predicted in 2008.
Also, anti-foundationalism.
“From each according to their ability
To each according to their need”
What the damn fool leftists don’t understand is that it will be the government that determines both their “need” AND their “ability”.
A lot of socialists are going to learn that their ability is gleaning grains of wheat from the fields of collective farms. None of which they will be allowed to eat.
I think most would say; “No problem. I’m willing tow work, where’s the jobs? No jobs you say? Gee that’s how come I’m having to ask the government for help. Now you tell me I’M THE PROBLEM?”
Let’s be real. I’m all for re hearings for a whole lot of people who’ve claimed disability. I’m all for those who are able bodied being required to work at least a few hours a week if they are receiving Gov’t benefits.
However, our money problems didn’t start because of those on welfare or disability. It started when the gov’t started picking winners and losers by regulations. It started when they gave money to GM and the Unions pensions were saved but the non-union guys got tossed out.
It started when we gave money to banks for their monumental stupidity and greed. It started when we ran deficits for the last 12 years.
And kicking folks off of welfare isn’t going to solve the problems.
Jcw46 – even a passing acquaintance with many of those folks on various forms of welfare, will inform you that they are part of the problem.
Money is wasted on educating them, when they don’t want a job, don’t take the training seriously, and often don’t even finish the courses.
A friend taught a nursing course for a welfare to work program- their tuition was completely paid for by daddy government. . The women flat-out told her they weren’t interested in becoming nurses, and this is just what they had to do to keep getting that check. She walked out.
^it was half-way through the semester, btw.
A guilty pleasure of mine is that “Hardcore Pawn” show on TruTV. One of the recurring themes is the customer who comes in wanting to sell some worthless piece of crap fake jewelry for way too much, then getting mad that they won’t get anywhere close to what they want.
“I wanna sell this solid gold bracelet that my second baby daddy gave me ‘coz I need to bail my fourth baby daddy out of jail.”
“Uh-huh. How much do you want for it?”
“I need $1,000”
“Well, it’s not gold, it’s gold plate, and the clasp is steel so you’re not getting anywhere near that. I can give you $20”
“WHAT??!? Uh uh, you got to go back there and bring me my $1,000!”
“$20”
“YOU OWE ME MY $1,000!!!!”
(hilarity ensues as certain basic economic realities descend full-force on the entitlement junkie’s brain. It’s like watching a spoiled child being told “no” for the first time.)
I think a lot of hardcore pawn is staged. Just saying.
And, a lot of those folks know their shit is fake. They’re basically trying to steal from Les.
We get lots of scammers coming into our stores.
It may shock you to hear this, but a high percentage (47%, perhaps?) of Detroiters aren’t exactly law-abiding or honest.
I do wonder, though, how much of the stock at that pawn store is stolen.
yada yada yada – yea, I know stolen goods, etc. But that would require the police to actually do detective work in the city.
Which they don’t.
Shows like that make me miserable. Include also the tow truck morons and the storage warriors. I wonder, what is the point? But, Duck Dynasty!
Here’s a good read, if you ever wondered “Is it better to burn out or fade away?“.
Hmmm… haven’t watched Hardcore Pawn, will have to catch it sometime.
When #2 daughter wanted to play sax for band, I bought a gorgeous one at a local pawn shop.
I get a kick out of “storage wars” … I’m waiting around to see if this happens again.
(a case that was prosecuted out of my office)
“From each according to their charity
Too each according to their industry”
Well I’d add that the industry has to be 1.) desirable and 2.) cost efficient enough to be profitable, and competitive. Industry has a qualitative aspect that is more important than its intensity. Digging and filling in holes all day is industrious but it doesn’t add value to anything.
There’s also a bit a psychology involved. You can make a better less expensive product that a competitor and have worse sales because your marketing isn’t as good. People have to want whatever it is that you do and thy can be made to want something for what seems to be dumb reasons. Which is why something like “community organizing” can be profitable if someone with money wants to spend it getting some community organized.
OT, but related:
legalinsurrection.com/2012/09/critical-audio-gap-in-complete-romney-tape-released-by-mother-jones/
Remember when Breitbart did that, and there was OUTRAGE! Fairly so at some level, it was a blunder.
Here, the audio cuts off in mid-sentence, and the fanzine media’s curiosity switch is stuck at “coma.”
Dale
Heh, I wonder how many people know the name “Rosemary Woods”
I suspect that there’s a not inconsiderable number of people caught up in the unemployment to disability and/or welfare who resent the hell out of being caught up in it, so yeah it’s probably not a bad idea to not give off the appearance of blaming the victim.
At the same time, we’re danger close to the point where the majority can vote themselves the fruit of other peoples’ labor, so to speak. In some ways we’re probably past that point already, since it’s debt finance that makes it even appear as a viable option in the first place.
I think a lot of the 47% wants OUT of being a non producer and would LOVE a real job. When I say a lot I mean at least 10%. (because 90/10 is the most consensus you can get on most issues )
So Romney is wrong to write ALL of them off as solidly for Obama. They are people who are not paying taxes not people who gave up paying taxes because they enjoy the bum’s life. He may be right not to focus on them exclusively.
But Romney said nothing in those videos that I can’t support at the poles.
My problems with Romney is his actual record when he was a governor, his left-center orientation, his choice of advisors, the sickening tactics used to promote him in the primaries, his allies in the GOP and finally his goofball statements like “tie minimum wages to inflation” and “patch the holes in the safety net”.
If I were going to display a bumper sticker urging people to vote a certain way, the slogan above the tagline would be: BE THE GROWN-UP.
Waaaaahhh!
Check out the brain on the idiot @ :55
I think a disheartening large portion of the 47% WILLl vote for Obama but I think a significant amount of them HATE being STUCK in the that category, are trying like mad to get out, and blame Obama’s role in growing and maintaining real unemployment and making it hard on business’s that hire for their predicament. I also think saying that “you’ll have a real job and pay taxes again under Romney and we’ll roll back what has happened to the middle class under this awful president” could be of great comfort to those people and people who are afraid of losing their jobs in the months to come and not being able to find another one.
I don’t think Romney either writes them off or disdains them … it’s more in sorrow than anger thing. There are some people who truly believe that working is for suckers.
Lefties are always sneering at me and others who are far from rich about how “deluded” we are to be Republican because we are NOT rich …
I always answer, but I’d like the opportunity to become rich and that ain’t in the Dem playbook.
I always answer, but I’d like the opportunity to become rich and that ain’t in the Dem playbook.
My stock response:
Guaranteed to induce open-mouthed, wide-eyed stammering, as the little hamster stops abruptly and gets thrown out of its little wheel entirely. Seriously: most of these poor little lambs are completely unequipped to mount a proper argument. After a while, I almost feel bad about the headaches I cause them. Then I remember what it is they’re trying to do to me, and I get over any qualms real quick.
Other than reporters being outraged! and running around with their hair on fire, I don’t see what Romney said that was wrong.
A great deal of what is being attributed to him was not said and is projection by the reporters. For instance, he never said anything about Veterans, the disabled or the truly needy. His message was about learned helplessness and how the Obama/democrat vison fosters dependency. Historically, there is a solid 5% of the population who are incapable of taking care of themselves.
So who are the other 38%? The long-term unemployed, the disabled (whether truly diabled or malingering), single-parent households, the foolish and the starry-eyed.
It is my thought that this is going to turn on Obama and bite him in his bone-y ass.
If reporters running around with their hair on fire is wrong, what’s the point of being right?
Darleen: You have to be carefully taught to get the nuance of redistribution…
These days, pretty much all of those sort of shows are staged. Particularly the “build” shows (motorcycles, cars, home-flipping, etc.) where they never show the extra two-four weeks of off-camera time used to reach “deadline”…
Duck Dynasty
Justified
Sons of Anarchy
In this instance, I’d wager that they’re the 38% of the 47% who don’t pay federal income tax.
Romney’s not kidding when he said he could have made his point more eloquently.
Speaking of “reporters” and “secret fundraising video”, King Putt, the alleged “champion of the little” guy, attends a fundraiser featuring a tower of gold Armand de Brignac champagne bottles that cost at least $280,000. As you might imagine, cameras are strictly verboten. Will there be secret video? Will Jay-Z’s bodyguards thrash someone trying to make a phonecam video? Will the Palace Guard Media even flinch?
Spiny, does a bear put the seat back down after taking a piss?
I have an irrational loathing of Jay-Z, Sean Combs and a number of their hangers on. And Mariah Carey.
It all started with the East Coast-West Coast rapper label battles and the subsequent deaths of Tupac and Biggie, although were not the only casualties. Suge Knight is nothing but a thug and so is Sean Combs.
The POTUS going to any events sponsered by these characters is akin to Reagan having the Mafia Dons to lunch at the White House. Not that the latter ever happened, of course.
Romney’s not kidding when he said he could have made his point more eloquently.
Indeed. I think this is a good thing to have it out there on the table where we are finally forced to deal with it. Who here isn’t tired, not to mention pissed off, at being a host to a growing number of parasites? Show of hands?
Obama wants to keep all his pet rats. Romney wants to call the Verminators.
You’re wrong.
Frank Sinatra.
QED
Heh.
Equality of opportunity vs. equality of outcome?
That second option looks pretty good to me. Why wouldn’t I prefer it? And why be an adult if I don’t have to be? The culture doesn’t exactly encourage me to behave otherwise.
The problem with equality of outcome is not that equality of outcome is a bad thing. If we were all equally wealthy, that would not be a bad thing, in and of itself.
The problem is that equality of outcome is a lie.
THAT’s the problem. That’s why we shouldn’t agitate for it or promote it. Because it’s a fantasy that is sold to the gullible by the power-hungry.
People don’t know that anymore, which is why the lie is working again.
The problem is that equality of outcome is a lie.
– Yes it is, and always has been, and most likely always will be, but it works as long as you can make it the only game in town in the minds of enough hampsters.
– Anyone with a few working brain cells would understand pretty quick that the pie is only just so big when less than 100% of the population is/can/will contribute to a pie that has to support 100% of the populace. A popukace that grows and grows while the percentage of contributors falls each passing day.
– But the politicians in general, and statists like Obama in particylar, are good at keeping the pie out of sight, using enough overload of ‘facts’ and other tools to keep that populace in a ‘hopey changey’ mental state. It can’t work, never will work, but for all sorts of reasons people are more than willing to play the only game in town.
– Its a cynical dangerous game, because sooner or later the pyranid falls apart.
– The Left is excoriating Romney, because the last thing the statists can deal with is any light being thrown on the scam of ‘equality of outcome’.
– If you look at their screaming and outrage they absolutely never come close to dealing with the issue, they just scream because its even being exposed and talked about.
– Thats Romney’s ‘crime’, and they know it.
Romney speaks troof to POTUS.
Fit hits the shan.
– In other news…..
– The Left continues to prepare for election day.
Let them eat Cake .
“Car in says September 19, 2012 at 5:37 am
Jcw46 – even a passing acquaintance with many of those folks on various forms of welfare, will inform you that they are part of the problem. ”
I believe I made that point. I also made the point (also true) that even kicking the undeserving or unrepentant off of these programs will make that much difference in our economy or our financial situation.
And btw; it costs quite a bit to do the investigations needed to uncover every bit of fraud or to even tighten up what is already done. So there’s a law of diminishing returns.
Another point; the solution isn’t to just kick folks off as it would result in a lot of costly problems for the local gov’t (which we all pay for) and in many cases the law that would do so would be enjoined from being enforced.
Weening folks off welfare has to be done gradually and at the same time there has to be somewhere for them to earn what they are losing.
It’s not something done by fiat overnight and in the short term will cost as much as the current programs do.
The situation we’re in either is done on a long term multi level basis or it won’t work. And let’s not forget all the corporate welfare in the form of laws and regulations along with out and out handouts disguised as subsidies or loans.
I can haz free shit now?
You didn’t shit that.
The Obama “pool“. Dive right in America.
Well..I sure shat somethin’. Then I laughed. But I didn’t laugh more.
http://imageshack.us/a/img802/9817/obamacaredweeb.jpg
(From something awful that was posted on the NRO corner blog)
Ack! That’s Jim “Howdy Doody” Messina.
– When an incumbent president isn’t leading handily in the polls at this stage of his campaign it indicates his record in office is a total disaster. The only choice left is ploys like “stampede campaigns’ with the aid of a lap dog press to push the narrative.
– Its based on the low attention span of the majority of voters. everytime anyone brings up a failure on Obama’s part they all yell in unison ‘Squirrel!!!…look!!!, while at the same time the media tries to fill the news cycle with BS agitprop and trumped up outrage over essentially nothing.
– So hows the ‘stampede campaign’ doing after a solid week of this crap?
– Romney and Bummblefuck are still essentially tied in national polls, which means the incumbent is sucking donkey balls.
Hah! He’s already on meme generator!
http://memegenerator.net/Jim-Messina
I don’t know BBH. After the fiasco of allowing an Ambassador to a Middle Eastern nation to be assassinated (on 9/11, no less!) through your own administration’s incompetence and/or indifference, and then blaming it on a stupid youtube trailer for a movie nobody’s seen, and that on top of the economy being what it is, I think you’d have to give the media and the campaign credit for keeping Bumblefuck tied.
– Absolutely Ernst. Without the press Jug Ears would be down in the teens right now.
– Recall that Carter had a +11 lead on Reagan at this point, which is typical for an incumbent and doesn’t reflect “change voters’. So when an incumbent isn’t showing that difference he;s already in trouble.
– Thats why you see the full court press by the media. They don’t expect anything positive for Obama from the debates. They’re even engaging in ‘lowered expectations’ rhetoric.
– So they have to try anything they can to drag his ass over the line like they tried to do with Carter.
My Messina submission.
I also made the point (also true) that even kicking the undeserving or unrepentant off of these programs will make that much difference in our economy or our financial situation.
And btw; it costs quite a bit to do the investigations needed to uncover every bit of fraud or to even tighten up what is already done. So there’s a law of diminishing returns.
Yea, we hear that all the time. There is overlap of programs, and certain ones which simply don’t work at ALL.
Live next to a house of folks on welfare, and you’ll get a nice dose of reality.
For folks on welfare, reality is primarily an altered state —at least in my vicinity.
Probably explains why they’re on welfare in the first place.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_makit2Zv8y1qeg2wb.jpg
This is all I’ve got.
“…I think you’d have to give the media and the campaign credit for keeping Bumblefuck tied.”
—-
Except that he’s not tied – those polls all skew Democrat, in one recent case it was +13 Dem. They’re doing whatever it takes to give the impression that it’s a close race.
Then again, maybe the +Dem is to account for all of the dead and illegals who will vote Dem on election day.
– The DoJ internal investigation report on F&F was released today, and as expected they’ve choosen the underlings to throw under the bus so Holder can try to weasle out of it.
Weening folks off welfare has to be done gradually and at the same time there has to be somewhere for them to earn what they are losing.
Nonsense. Announce in September that the programs are too costly and not effective enough to continue, and that their funding will be discontinued on June 30th next year. The states will kick and scream; tell them how sorry you are. The dependents will kick and scream; tell them how sorry you are.
While the inevitable lawsuits work their way through the system, ask your surrogates in the church community to promote some of the programs they’ve started or expanded. Programs based on actual charity, and given to those with actual need.
At your press conferences, without naming specifics, encourage the electorate to give their support to those “safety net” programs that are doing the job so much more effectively than the army of bureaucratic drones could dream of.
A perfect fix? Hardly. But way the hell better than the trajectory we’re on now.
Why does Homeland Security need 1.4 billion rounds of ammunition?
Squid, Newt is our man when it comes to fixing the social safety
hammocknet. He proposes all kinds of draconian/commonsense changes to whip things into shape.– Newt is deadly effective at program reforms. As a consequence everyone in Washington is scared to death of him.
Here is a plausible explaination.
Everyone scoffed at me when I was in Newt’s corner.
Caption for the Messina pic: MESSAGE: OBAMA CARE – because it worked so well for George H.W. Bush.
I’ve tried to make this point before, but to cut $1T from the federal budget all we have to do is return to the draconian hellhole that was the 2007 federal budget, five years ago when they had, you know, budgets.
Squid, to add to your point, the financial trajectory we are on will, inevitably, kick everyone off the welfare rolls anyway.
The Emerging Obamacare Truth Is Disarray
PAGOP Poll: Obama 48, Romney 47
I must be doing this disability thing wrong. I have congestive heart failure. I am over 50 and worked my entire life. I filed for social security when Bush was president. It took 3 years, a hearing and $6000.00 to get what I paid into since I was 14. While waiting for my benefits I had to sell my house and cash in my 401k to pay my medical bills. I do get medicare but it costs as much as when I had Blue Cross and I still have to pay 20%. I drive a 20 year old car and it frosts my ass when I see someone with an ebt card load their groceries into a newer suv. I guess playing by the rules sucks.
“Holder is the head of the agency and he ran programs with no knowledge of the details.”
– Thats the BS the DoJ is trying to peddle.
– Of course we can be sure they crafted things carefully to give themselves ‘plausible deniability’, but this is rediculous. Even if true, abd not a soul believes this, even most Democrats, the man should be fired for incompetence.
– Wonder if any of the sacrificial lambs will go whistleblower?
I guess playing by the rules sucks.
go apply for an ebt card. your situation is what most folks think the safety net is for.
don’t mind the begging
‘ yo- got a smoke..’ i can d deal with that
but
‘yo..got a smoke..my cousin just took the bus and he should be back now,any second i gave him my check and..’
i hate that shit!
so-heres a story i got
u go into dunkin donuts and say-mmm coffee-donut etc
so they give u the order BUT they then hold ur hand and put in the change and give u the fucking reciept so ur like, holdinfg a hot coffee.starving for ur donut and u got a hand ful of change what 2 do?
me-i seperate the quarters for pocket and as i leave junky jonuts i throw change in the air!
look at me! I’m Audrey Hepburn!
newrouter, I won’t. I feel bad enough even though I paid into this system. With all the money our government gives to our enemies, we could fund social security and other programs for the truly needy. I agree with most here that the dead weight needs to go. Welfare is just a way for the politicians to control an electorate.
Al Qaeda, ex-Gitmo detainee involved in consulate attack, intelligence sources say
Welfare is just a way for the politicians to control an electorate.
yes
Lets close Gitmo. Then they will love us for sure. Has that French magazine com out yet? I love me a good car- b- que.
Legal Insurrection: David Corn Claim that He Was Upfront About Romney Tape Gap Is Nonsense
Makers v. Takers is a lot better than Freedom v. Free Stuff.
Take[r], the pledge.
messina looks like a metrosexual from the acme™ collection
Wasn’t one of those Copybook Header Gods wearing a t-shirt that said, “If you don’t work you die.”?
Occupy Arabs Spring
Long hot Summer
Conventional Obama Fall
Romney-Ryan Winner
– I’m dreaming of a White Christmas
Yeah, sounds good…but you may as well say if johns would stop looking for hookers, the prostitution problem would go away.
I’m all for reform over a cut-off. My top three reforms:
1) Only citizens need apply
2) Get pregnant after signing up, benefits will not increase
3) Must make reasonable (verifiable) effort to get off assistance or benefits stop. (I think Newt got us a now defunct law like that one time)
Where government programs have gone off the rails is they’re now considered “rights”, and they’ve become a generational phenomenon. THAT’S what needs to change…
I agree. Public assistance should only be for Americans, and it should not be used to subsidize the breeding of a new generation of underclass.
* The Libturds Bill of Rights *
* You have the right to screw anyone you want
* You have the right to pay for your own shit
* You have the right to abort into extinction
* You have the right to butt out of other peoples business
* You have the right to depemd on the charity of others
* You have the right to work like everyone else
* You have the right to shut the fuck up znd stop whining
* You have the right to remain stupid