me: “Hot out, ain’t it? Probably that global warming.”
person I don’t know but was being friendly with: “Probably.”
me: “Heh. Wait, are you being serious?”
person I don’t know but was being friendly with: “Of course. You weren’t?”
me: “No.”
person I don’t know but was being friendly with: “Wow. Really? In this political climate? No offense, pal, but you should drop out of the Senate race immediately. The seat you’re vying for is too important to be lost as a result of off-message forays into controversial climate denialism. So here’s what I need you to do: for the good of the party, admit to being an extremist, anti-science buffoon whose religiosity is precisely why we can’t allow institutions like the Catholic Church determine who can and cannot have birth control covered under comprehensive health care policies, and concede that the pro-life stance written into the party platform is not so extreme that it doesn’t recognize that there are, of course, some babies that are worth snuffing out, and that we love women and respect their bodily rights, too!
” — Or do you not want to repeal ObamaCare?”
me:
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me: “This isn’t really about global warming, this discussion we’re having, is it…?”
It’s depressingly, despair-inducingly funny because it’s true.
Remarkable how fast Ryan had to ditch his position on abortion to suit the campaign.
Prompts the question of what else he’ll have to sacrifice for The Good Of The Party.
Just for you and me, Dale. But yeah, I’m at the gallows humor stage of my GOP support.
There needs to be a seminar for anyone who wants to run as a conservative (or Republican. Not the same thing).
This seminar would consist of writing 1,000 times on paper or blackboard (no computer cut and paste!):
THE PRESS IS NOT MY FRIEND.
THAT CUTE JOURNALIST IS OUT TO TRASH ME.
THEY WILL NEVER WRITE ANYTHING NICE ABOUT ME NO MATTER HOW NICE I AM TO THEM.
ANYTHING I SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST ME IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
Oh, fuck off.
Wait, how’s that again? That’s the narrative. If it’s a fact, that’s news to me.
Pablo, it’s right there in your link, at least with respect to partial birth abortion–no rape exception.
I’d argue that in a crazy media climate, you do have to acknowledge that once you make a “I’m not into rape” ad, you’ve lost.
Though I wonder if there’s a serious reason to support Akin. What I mean is, with his “I can’t believe it’s not a comb-over!” look, he strikes me as hopeless good-ol-boy GOP. Not something I mourn too much over.
Partial birth abortion is very late term, well past the point where rape would be the reason. The first vote listed is entirely consistent with his currently stated position: exceptions for rape, incest, life of the mother.
Just for the record, I am going to stand over here with Carin and missfixit and refuse to discuss abortion.
You’re welcome.
It all depends on how much you are willing to trust Mitt Romney. I’m not.
FWIW, I can recall a controversy over a very late term abortion (29 weeks) involving a rape victim. I know, late-term doesn’t equal partial birth, but they can occur.
I thought we were talking about Ryan changing his position.
Most actual rape victims are from family members, where the pregnancy would likely be hidden for a number of reasons. So they’d usually be later term.
Rarely is “further hiding the problem,” in the best interest of those women, especially since we know now how traumatic late term abortions are.
Most actual rape victims are from family members…
Um, no, not really. Most rapes are date rape of some form. Besides, there are different protections for rape and incest… which is what “family member rape” falls under.
And so we are. But he’s now the junior partner in Romney for President, Inc., which is a significant fact in and of itself, and can’t be waved away.
Mitt Romney–post-pro-life conversion–ordered Catholic hospitals to dispense abortifacients in cases of rape.
Ryan’s record indicates that he is opposed to abortion because of rape in at least certain circumstances. His practice of Catholicism (shared by me) suggests that his opposition may be broader than that, at least in circumstances not involving federal funding.
However, Romney’s spokesman says, in response to L’affaire Akin, that Romney/Ryan will not oppose abortions because of rape. Full stop.
Which leaves me, at least, with a few concerns.
Back on topic, this post did make me LOL out loud. So, thanks, Jeff. I needed it.
Dale, oh, but didn’t you hear, rape babies aren’t like baby-babies? Silly Papist.
Unless he’s now stating that he’d support partial birth abortion because of rape, I don’t see where his position has changed. In fact, I don’t see where anyone has argued for, against or voted on a PBA rape exception. It’s a non-issue.
“…Which, you know, is why I’ve been quietly recomending that you stay out of the hanging plant section, and spend more time in the paint department. I’ve found that if you just stand quietly and smile as you fondle the brushes people you don’t know will tend to just leave you the fuck alone.
So there’s that.”
I see your point, Sunny-Dee. I was tempted to comment further, but then I… kind of realized internet comment sections are, like, the worst place ever to get into arguments about rape, so I’m definitely dropping the whole subject now.
person I don’t know but was being friendly with: “And if you’re going to come here you better damn well learn some Spanish — and I don’t mean just enough to order dinner and a frozen margarita at La Hacienda, know what I mean?”
– In any event the Akin roadshow looks to be pushed further and further off the Pravda media agitprop story board as hysteria over the Republican platform among the mentally unstable ranks of feminazi’s builds to earthquake proportions.
– Over at HuffPoop they have the lede with a wire coat hanger underneath.
A tad apart from the topic target, but still sorta in the ballpark, today’s APOD post isn’t an astronomical object, but an animated video of DNA in replication. Pretty damned cool too.
It’s too late, it’s not about Akin anymore. It’s about Going Full Delaware, and the party has decided that it’s just too much fun to *not* do it again.
Akin became a proxy for long-standing grudges almost immediately.
If we are very, very, VERY lucky, the vaunted Short Attention Span will kick in at some point.
Thanks for the chuckle Jeff
If that’s the case, then I’m voting for Obama.
Because defeating the Republican Establishment the THAT important.
– Me, I’m just going to throw some tea in San Diego harbor and hope I fon’t get fined for littering.
– Ernst, just ask yourself what would Billy Jack do.
Some “conservative” talker this afternoon rushed to point out the roster of “conservatives” calling for Akin to step down.
This prompted a random thought: Hey, do I remember ever once the left calling for a Democrat to step down for violating Republicanism? Well, gosh I surely do not.
All I know is I haven’t been this traumatized since Quayle misspelled potato.
Y’know, I’ve never seen that movie, BBH.
What would Billy Jack do?
Just for the record, I am going to stand over here with Carin and missfixit and refuse to discuss abortion.
You’re welcome.
Excellent.
– You know, urban legend has it that Billy Jack kept the “ten commandments for teen behavior” under each of the silver buttons that ringed his Dekota hat brim.
– I don’t know if that’s true, but in any case whatever Billy did Merle Haggert would write a song about it.
and spend more time in the paint department
i go there for the mek
Remember what good old Joe Lieberman looked like when he was on Team Gore (who had similarly abandoned his Southern Pro Life democrat creds to be on Team Clinton?).
It’s like that, only it’s closer to home because we liked Ryan more than we liked Leiberman or Gore back in the day when they were still opposing the McGovernite wing.
internet comment sections are, like, the worst place ever to get into arguments about rape
Are there really rape arguments to be found? One rarely hears from the pro-rape contingent… well anywhere outside of 4chan, that is.
Heh, what? Never heard of Palmer and Thornhill’s big assed mess?
…and the rabid left. Just mention Sarah Palin.
One rarely hears from the pro-rape contingent
a spokesman appears in blazing saddles
And as if on cue: Twitter Lynch Mob calls for rape of Rep. Todd Akin
I can guarantee he won’t conceive, thereby somewhat vindicating his point.
But that’s righteous rape, Pablo. Not like his unrighteous suggestion that killing babies is mostly really really bad, no matter the excuse or circumstance.
Our side is worthless.
On the current state of Respectable Right-wing Punditry: “It’s a mad house! A mad house! “
CROWD: He’s a witch!!! Burn him! BURN HIM!!!
SIR BELVEDERE: What makes you think he’s a witch?
PEASANT 3: Well, he turned me into a Bible-banger!
SIR BELVEDERE: A Bible-banger?
PEASANT 3: [meekly after a long pause] … I got better.
CROWD: [shouts] Burn him anyway!
If you were a tin soldier he’d take his left foot and put it upside your head, and there wouldn’t be a thing you could do about it. Except ride away….
“But that’s righteous rape, Pablo.”
Because his actions “asked” for it, right?
Republican party = dog.
Democrats = Pavlov with a bell.
All this stupid cannibalistic CFS bullshit = the saliva.
I’m drowning in a sea of tropes and shadows.
The past two days, a condensed course in the Obama method of campaigning. A course designed to be instantly forgotten after it has finished so the replay will always be new and unexpected, again&again&again.