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The Trent Lott / Pragmatic Conservative Alliance

It’s come to this.

Evidently, politics is no place for beliefs.  Win or go home.  Results matter!

— So long as you don’t go tampering with the conditions for achieving those results by insisting on new parameters for deciding them — like, for instance, the introduction of a clear constitutional vision and a return to the foundational ideas for this country.

Now.  Fall in line, purists.  You’re fucking it up for the politically savvy moderates who have every right to run things.*

WHY DO YOU WANT TO DESTROY THE TEAM, YOU STUPID, RIGID HOBBITS?

 

55 Replies to “The Trent Lott / Pragmatic Conservative Alliance”

  1. Jeff G. says:

    I can say with absolute delight that I am so happy that, as our internecine party battles have played out, I wound up standing on the OPPOSITE SIDE OF TRENT LOTT, and AGAINST DICK LUGAR.

    Nothing could have better told me just how right my instincts are.

  2. sdferr says:

    I had intended to keep a respectful silence on my unhappy views of the republicans (they don’t deserve the capitalization, which I think should be reserved for the more meaningful political theory embodied in the Constitution and in which these stinking pols do not participate) until after the election is over. These men may yet change my mind as to the timing.

  3. Jeff G. says:

    Added link to previous comment. For clarity.

  4. John Bradley says:

    I’m guessing there’s a reason none of the op-ed writers are still in office…

  5. Jeff G. says:

    We haters.

  6. DarthLevin says:

    …republicans (they don’t deserve the capitalization, which I think should be reserved for the more meaningful political theory embodied in the Constitution and in which these stinking pols do not participate)

    I’d always thought of it the other way, with the big-R Republicans being the party and little-r republican meaning the theory.

    Regardless, any way you can think of to insult the feckless yeasty mammering swag-bellied dewberries that are the GOP is fine by me.

  7. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Meet the new old guard. Same as the old old guard. Is that what you’re saying Jeff?

  8. sdferr says:

    “I’d always thought of it the other way, with the big-R Republicans being the party and little-r republican meaning the theory.”

    That is the convention, but any more the convention strikes me in the gut as utterly upside-down. Capitalization ought to signify a distinction of note, but what’s to note in a thing like the party grown empty of Republican virtue, save perhaps that it’s indistinct? Thus I take away their attribute through use of the miniscule.

  9. Dennis D says:

    “Man can be defined as an animal that makes dogmas….When he drops one doctrine after another in a refined scepticism, when he declines to tie himself to a system, when he says that he has outgrown definitions, when he says that he disbelieves in finality, when, in his own imagination, he sits as God, holding no form of creed but contemplating all, then he is by that very process sinking slowly backwards into the vagueness of the vagrant animals and the unconsciousness of the grass. Trees have no dogmas. Turnips are singularly broad-minded.”

    -G.K. Chesterton, Heretics (1905)

    Those four think WE just fell off the turnip truck. I say THEY’RE turnips and I say to hell with them.

  10. newrouter says:


    3 days ago
    Mitt Romney thinks the economy is improving

    oops

    Today the Wall Street Journal takes note of one of my favorite indicators: Federal Express package shipping activity. Demand for package delivery is about as real-time an indicator as you can get, and doesn’t depend on survey data, statistical modeling, and “seasonal adjustment.” Today’s headline is “FedEx Scales Back Economic Forecasts.” The story says FedEx’s U.S. package delivery volume was off by 4 percent last quarter. They’re scaling back their own in-house economic forecast for the rest of the year. They’re going to take some planes out of service and park them in the desert, and shrink their workforce through attrition. Stay tuned.

    link

  11. Ernst Schreiber says:

    WHY DO YOU WANT TO DESTROY THE TEAM, YOU STUPID, RIGID HOBBITS?

    Why, to SAVE the team of course.

    But not until after second breakfast.

  12. DarthLevin says:

    Thanks for the link to the video, guins. I loved the Top Comment for it:

    Well look at this shit. It's live. No synthesizers. No autotune. No teams of mixers and background singers. Holy fuck, can you believe that back in the day they had to get by on skill and talent alone? And Dee Murray on bass...effortless and never a note missed. I weep for the crap that? passes as music today. And thanx to the commenters who seek to make a political message for gay marraige out of what should be simple enjoyment of perfect music. Schmucks.

  13. John Bradley says:

    Why do we need a Unified Team in the first place? Why do I need to be brought into line?

    It’s almost as if the Rs have bought into the Left’s identity politics wherein your individual interests are only of merit if they can be packaged up into some sort of semi-homogenous group. But that’s just crazy-talk, and quite possibly unserious.

  14. DarthLevin says:

    It’s almost as if the Rs have bought into the Left’s identity politics wherein your individual interests are only of merit if they can be packaged up into some sort of semi-homogenous group.

    Ding ding ding ding ding!!! Johnny, tell us what he’s won!

  15. sdferr says:

    “Why do we need a Unified Team in the first place? Why do I need to be brought into line? ”

    Consider Madison’s view of the salvation of the democratic tendencies toward dissolution in squabbling by the Republican virtue of opposing power to power? The unified team is a means to a powerful faction. The question for the joiner is whether the faction represents his interests in fact, or whether he wants to form another team altogether.

  16. RI Red says:

    That opinion column alone tells me that the GrandOldParty is over.
    No Republican establishment? Please.

  17. StrangernFiction says:

    One need go no further than to note that primary challenges were mounted against two of our most distinguished and dedicated Senate icons, Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar, with claims that even these solid conservatives were not pure enough.

    Solid conservatives?

    Lisa Murkowski’s lifetime rating with the National Taxpayer’s Union is 66. Dick Lugar’s is only 2 points higher.

  18. sdferr says:

    I’ve a latent question for you in the “It can’t be racism” thread RI, arising from my curiosity about your reading in Ameritopia.

  19. George Orwell says:

    Oh brother. Let’s add to this the latest spin on why Romney will work out well for conservatives.

    Ben Howe posted a piece yesterday on Red State with the thesis that Romney is a panderer, not an ideologue, so at least we have a chance that he’ll pander to conservatives. His proof? Clinton. Because he pandered a bit to the right after his hide-whipping in the 1994 mid-terms. So, Howe concludes, we must support Mitt because if we don’t he won’t pander to us like Clinton did. If we keep “bashing” him, he will ignore us.

    Let’s recap this inverted notion: We get Romney to pander to conservative desires the way Clinton cleaved to us in 1994… which must mean we take away the House from Romney’s party in the 2014 mid-terms by, uh… voting Democrat…

    No, let’s try this again. Clinton shifted to the right because the right supported Clinton and he pandered to us. No, wait, we didn’t support him. We voted his party’s asses out of the Congress. It’s almost as if Clinton pandered to us because we opposed him, not supported him.

    I guess most of the right has convinced themselves that you get what you want in electoral politics by voting for people who don’t want the same thing. Because then they will change their minds and pander to you after the election, I guess, even though they already had your vote and…

    Sweet fuckall, I can’t make sense of this bugfuckery. Howe has reality inverted. Our position with respect to Romney is nothing like Clinton, because he’s in our freaking party, fellas. He doesn’t have to pander to us once he’s got the nomination and he really won’t need us if he wins in November.

    It’s amazing how often the “pragmatists” refuse to see reality. You want to see moderation? Just wait until we’re three months into a Romney presidency. It will be “Mid-terms, mid-terms, mid-terms, this is no time for extremism!”

    Stoopid disclaimer: I’m still voting for President Etch-A-Sketch. Always said I would vote for a ham sandwich over Obama, and Mitt is at least a ham sandwich. SCOTUS appointments are the only thing I hope for from this year’s Bush Lite.

  20. bergerbilder says:

    As the campaign season began, prospects looked promising. A dismal economy and the president’s low approval ratings suggested a clear opportunity.

    Now, this doesn’t make republicans look ghoulish, at all.

  21. LBascom says:

    Now, this doesn’t make republicans look ghoulish, at all.

    Especially when you understand what’s ghoulish is the dismal economy and runaway debt. Brought to us by 6 years of a progressive congress and 4 years of a progressive president.

    You’d really have to be an idiot to think the ones wanting to change all that are ghoulish, for sure. Thanks for pointing that out.

  22. sdferr says:

    Good gulyás is hard to come by.

  23. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Ben Howe posted a piece yesterday on Red State with the thesis that Romney is a panderer, not an ideologue, so at least we have a chance that he’ll pander to conservatives

    Panderers pander to people who want to be pandered to. As an ideologue of the hairy-footed visigothic variety, I can only be represented, not pandered to. So Romney won’t Maybe that’s just my definition of staunch, and other conservatives believe differently.

    In which case, good luck with that.

  24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Apologies for the blockquote fail there.

  25. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Sweet fuckall, I can’t make sense of this bugfuckery.

    I think the problem George is that there is no right to speak of, only an anti-left.

  26. George Orwell says:

    Not that it is a surprise, but Romney lackey and lickspittle Duane Patterson from the Mitt Romney’s boyfriend show (aka Hugh Hewitt) is talking to Ed Morrissey on his show, rationalizing the “etch-a-sketch” comment from Romney’s righthand man. You have to reset the campaign, you see, after the nomination. It’s a different kind of campaign. He didn’t mean what he obviously meant in context of the question asked.

    Textbook case of bootlicker Duane changing the intent of the Romney spokesman’s words and trowling in his own. Oh, plus lots of disdain for Santorum as a loose cannon.

  27. Ernst Schreiber says:

    lots of disdain for Santorum as a loose cannon.

    After the way the team treated him, can you really blame him?

  28. LBascom says:

    OT, but maybe not so much:

    Dick Durbin Wants to Question NFL, Professional Sports on Bounties

    I’m happy that the NFL acted swiftly once a bounty program was discovered. But questions remain about what the NFL and other professional and collegiate sports organizations are doing to protect their players and the integrity of their sports.”

    [emphasis mine]

    Is there no solution government can’t find a question for?

  29. George Orwell says:

    Oh man, nauseating. Ed Morrissey and Duane Patterson are falling over themselves making excuses for Ferhnstrom’s Kinsleyan gaffe. It’s no big deal; you praise the man in fact for admitting his mistake (has he in fact done so?), it’s just words…

    Plus, if you oppose Mitt you’re a “Mitt-hater.”

  30. Squid says:

    I could handle life under a Benevolent Mitthatership.

  31. McGehee says:

    CHOOSE, YOU VISIGOTHS! CHOOSE BETWEEN THE TELEPROMPTER AND THE ETCH-A-SKETCH! FOR THE COHESIVENESS!

  32. George Orwell says:

    I will have to stop listening to this Ed Morrissey show. The powerful odor of mendacity is giving me a migraine.

    Hugh Hewitt’s producer just asserted that Romney never intended for Romneycare to be a national model. Liar.

    When these policies went mainstream, the GOP didn’t disown them—it applauded. But now the party seems to be too obsessed with oppositionism to contribute constructively to the national conversation. During a speech in Baltimore on Feb. 2, 2007, Romney outlined his ambitions for the Massachusetts plan. “I’m proud of what we’ve done,” he said. “If Massachusetts succeeds in implementing it, then that will be a model for the nation.” Last month Romney’s dream came true. If Republicans knew what was good for them, they would stop treating it as a nightmare.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04/15/if-the-mitt-fits.html

    “How much of our health-care plan applies to other states? A lot.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/05/12/what-mitt-romney-said-about-romneycare-when-he-signed-it-into-law/

  33. Ernst Schreiber says:

    If your’re going to MAKE me choose like that, then I choose to misbehave,

    fucker.

  34. George Orwell says:

    I believe the states should be laboratories for presentation technologies. Maryland may choose teleprompters, Massachusetts may choose the etch-a-sketch, California may choose wax tablets and sticks.

    But on any of them, “slut” is right out.

  35. palaeomerus says:

    Here’s what happened okay? The GOP was rescued from a ditch in 2009 and recovered in 2010. It has since turned on its rescuers. In doing so it failed its survival test. It now stands for nothing and has no meaning. It is useless. It is too stupid to live.

  36. George Orwell says:

    It is too stupid to live.

    But not too stupid to direct government largesse to its favored donors and constituents when it gets its turn at shoring up the administrative state.

    When I wrote about the future looking like a boot stamping on a human face, forever, I had no idea the person wearing that boot would look like… Trent Lott.

    There’s some kinds of ugly you cannot erase.

  37. palaeomerus says:

    Actually I think the boot won’t stamp on the human face forever because socialism is a pathological poverty reinforcing mess and because post industrial Vikings and mongols don’t worry about upsetting people when they shoot the thought police and set fire to the ministry of peace and take all the steel and guns they can carry. The boot and the face vanish under the rush of the hordes and the tribal order resumes.

  38. palaeomerus says:

    Socialism depends on the kindness of powerful non socialist rivals or larger socialist neighbors who are expansionist for any kind of long term stability. And since expansionism can’t last forever socialism without being fed regularly by more productive systems is a system with about a 50 year life span. Even with feeding it seems to go tits up at around 80 years.

  39. B Moe says:

    I really don’t know why you are taking this so personally, Jeff.

    It’s just business.

  40. George Orwell says:

    Mark Levin just spoke to Rick Santorum. Direct question: If Mitt is the nominee would you vote for him? Answer from Santorum: “Yes.”

    But don’t look for any corrections from our… friends… on the right when parsing Santorum’s previous remarks to his detriment.

  41. DarthLevin says:

    It’s just business.

    Now I have visions of Michael Corleone sitting in Louie’s Restaurant listening to Solozzo explain why he tried to whack Vito. A Godfather fix is needed.

  42. Pellegri says:

    Is there no solution government can’t find a question for?

    nsfw (impolite language)

  43. palaeomerus says:

    Listen to reason.
    MUWHAWWW …..inevitable!
    NNNGGGAARRGGHHH……..THEOCRAAAAAAAAAAAT….. NNghhPH.

    What more needs to be said? (Etch-a-sketch?)

  44. Swen says:

    The scales fell from my eyes back in the run-up to the 2010 elections when John Boehner started waving around his Pledge to America with its promise to “put common-sense limits on the growth of government” (see page 21) after months of the TEA Parties screaming about run-away government growth and spending.

    If the best the Republicans could do at that point in history was to promise they’d let government grow a little slower than the Democrats might like they were clearly lost to us.

  45. Dale Price says:

    Louder, Trent–louder! I want to make sure everyone hears your sage voice again. Ditto Jack Danforth.

    Yep, follow the cavalcade of go-along to get-along. Right over the cliff.

    I can see why they’ve warmed to principle-free singularity of Mitt, that’s for sure.

  46. Pellegri says:

    I may as well just keep linking the image in my previous comment forever.

    because

    why. government. why.

  47. geoffb says:

    The GOP was rescued from a ditch in 2009 and recovered in 2010. It has since turned on its rescuers.

    There is a well known tactic used by terrorists of setting a second bomb to go off later to kill the rescuers when they show up. We could look at McCain as the first explosion splattering leaden progressive socialism throughout the land. Romney is the second one, set to finish off those who bravely rushed in to try to save whatever they could from the wreckage.

  48. RI Red says:

    Sdfrr, I’be been out of the loop and just saw your note about Ameritopia. What up, bro?

  49. sdferr says:

    RI Red, just curious about your take on the question?

  50. RI Red says:

    Hmmm. May be a little difficult; nurse just added a dilaudid drip. From Levin’s viewpoint,The Republic would be the antithesis of a constitutional republic. Republic, Leviathan, Communism, none are compatiblea with thethe preexisting god given rights.
    all for now. Fingers not in synch.

  51. Jeff G. says:

    Feel better and get well soon, RI Red!

  52. sdferr says:

    Aieee, Red! Hope you’re back on your feet quickly, at least to the extent you aim to be.

    I think, if I recollect correctly, that JD has been through this gall bladder removal process, and of more relevance ex post facto of course, its aftermath . . . remarking something about chewing the fat doesn’t sit quite right though.

  53. SDN says:

    Red, make damned sure they check for ALL the gallstones. Having one get away and block your pancreatic duct is a Bad Thing. Trust me.

  54. RI Red says:

    Wow, what a nap. Trial run for tomorrow when it comes out. Doc said if he did it today, he’d have to use a gynocologist for a back-up. I laughed. No, seriously, he says. They have great experience with laparoscopies. Still funny.
    Thanks all for the kind wishes. I’ll take whatever remains after Satch’s fever breaks. For the Chilluns!

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