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As an addendum to Darleen’s earlier coverage of the “marching” dullards that kind of staggered through DC today.

“15 photos from the ‘One Nation’ rally you’ll never see in the legacy media”.

Another note: on Levin’s show last evening, a caller noted that her husband — a union electrician — was told that if his shop didn’t fill up a bus voluntarily, they’d all be required to go to the rally.

Freedom!

166 Replies to “As an addendum to Darleen’s earlier coverage of the “marching” dullards that kind of staggered through DC today.”

  1. happyfeet says:

    NPR is pimping it on the front page like it was a super duper WIN! for Team Socialism

    I checked and yup they have different pictures than those ones

  2. ak4mc says:

    Well of course they didn’t pick up after themselves. Union rules.

  3. newrouter says:

    the march today with

    with soviet anthem soundtrack

  4. newrouter says:

    i like the shot of the bookseller having in stock “the jewish question”
    nazis, commies, and islam holding hands

  5. bh says:

    Took a look around and I found the book here.

  6. Bob Reed says:

    Imagine, all those people who believe in the “greening” America; how could there possibly be so much litter in thier wake?

    It’s a metaphor for how thier ideas would “trash” America.

  7. bh says:

    The full title is “The Jewish Question: A Marxist Interpretation” by Abram Leon.

  8. happyfeet says:

    we have two young, impressionable daughters, and we thought maybe it was best not to do that*

  9. newrouter says:

    we have two young, impressionable daughters, and we thought maybe it was best not to do that

    you’re kinda of commie there forcing people to do things against their will

  10. newrouter says:

    its also a karl marx rant;via wiki

    On the Jewish Question is a work by Karl Marx, written in 1843, and first published in Paris in 1844 under the German title Zur Judenfrage in the Deutsch–Französische Jahrbücher. It was one of Marx’s first attempts to deal with categories that would later be called the materialist conception of history.

  11. happyfeet says:

    I don’t think you read my comment there Mr. router did you no you didn’t

  12. Joe says:

    In related delusional news, Bill Maher goes completely fucking nuts.

    I haven’t seen madness like this since Andrew Sullivan tried to crawl in Sarah Palin’s uterus.

  13. newrouter says:

    lbgt are alot like marxist in forcing people to do things against their will

  14. happyfeet says:

    here they don’t really let you link to comments there

  15. newrouter says:

    Mr. router did you no you didn’t

    you’re right 56 comments on cupcakes was too much

  16. bh says:

    Okay, this is getting off topic but I had to show you guys one of the Amazon reviews of that book.

    This heroic book helped me understand why fascits and other rightists rely on anti-Jewish propaganda and why the Zionist response is a dead end. Abram Leon was a Jewish Marxist and working class leader in Nazi-occupied Belgium until being shipped to his death in Auschwitz. He points out that Jews are a social grouping that played a dynamic role during feudalism but have no role as a distinct class under capitalism. Because capitalist society will not assimilate them, they become ready scapegoats. The solution Leon proposes is to join with other workers in the fight for a socialist society in place of capitalism, which is the root of racist movements. Leon’s richly detailed history of the Jewish people challenges the myths of the Zionists. The fact that the imperialist nation of Israel has become the most dangerous place for Jews to live underscores Leon’s point about the danger of Zionism. If not available from amazon, booksfrompathfinder will have it–click on “new and used” near the top of the page.

    Wow.

  17. dicentra says:

    Speaking of buttocks (and don’t say we weren’t), I’d like to commemorate ‘Tocktober with this little vid.

  18. Cupcakes…eh, when have proggs ever been shy about imposing their lack of values on the rest of us?

  19. The goonion follies remind me of the bumpersticker from the ’84 campaign: “My Union Thinks I’m For Mondale!”

  20. ak4mc says:

    Bh, I saw that review and I did not find it helpful. And that’s what I told Amazon.com

  21. bh says:

    Don’t you mean that the copy writer at the central union office and then the person proofing at the print shop know how to spell?

  22. Bob Reed says:

    happyfeet,
    How in the world did we go from talking about a failed commie rally to cupcake bigot?

    Are you some kind of gay superhero; a crusader for affirmation of the LGBT agenda and lifestyle?

    I don’t understand how this story related to today’s rally.

  23. ak4mc says:

    Happyfeet is afraid the gay people around him don’t like him ’cause of the not being gay like them, so he tries to be the kind of straight guy he thinks they’ll like.

  24. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Most of the attendees are still on a bus right now trying to get home.

    Tired, bored, hungry, and pissed off.

    Makes a man smile.

  25. ak4mc says:

    It’s like the ’60s liberals trying to make the black people like them by talking about how if Bull Connor was right there right then why they’d just whup the living daylights out of him and wouldn’t he be sorry!

  26. happyfeet says:

    I just got it over messenger so i shared it – I didn’t even have any real comment on it it’s just a fun cupcakes-held-hostage-to-christer-bigotry-film-at-11 story I think

  27. happyfeet says:

    plus it’s JD’s stomping grounds

  28. bh says:

    I always forget to thumbs up and thumbs down stuff like that on the ‘net, McG. Just for the wild idiocy of that review, I just went back and did so.

  29. sdferr says:

    Seems like NPR excised Schultz’s remarks about the Republicans being the Forces of Evil. Wonder how come they done that, since getting the word out about the Forces of Evil sounds important?

  30. newrouter says:

    marxists like to ponder the jewish ? the nazis and islam guys like to act unless you’re stalin’s doctor

  31. Bob Reed says:

    How do you know they’re xtianists? It didn’t state that anywhere in the article…

  32. newrouter says:

    fun cupcakes-held-hostage-to-christer-bigotry-film-at-11 story

    or radical marxists-force-their-decision-onto-freedom loving amerikkan

  33. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    Awww.

    AJB is all butt hurt cuz the super awesome proggie parade only managed the turnout of a 5th grade club soccer game.

    I’m sowwy.

    Uz can haz rainbowz & buttahcups…

    After November 2.

    Now go screw.

  34. sdferr says:

    Nick Sab[t]an is one of the Forces of Evil, just so’s you know. And the rest of ‘Bama gonna follow him to the ends of Bryant-Denny Stadium, they will. Devil people. All got up in bloody crimson too.

  35. newrouter says:

    please be quiet i’m watching season 1 ep 5 of rockford

  36. happyfeet says:

    good point Mr. Reed I don’t know for sure it could be just some kook

  37. Bob Reed says:

    kooks can be found everywhere.

  38. happyfeet says:

    yes I am sorry for making a religious inference I should not have done that inasmuch as one was not supported by the facts

  39. bh says:

    I wonder if their bus drivers were unionized with full health benefits and platinum pensions or if the SEIU and the socialists rode to the rally… on the back of the exploited and oppressed.

    (I assume you guys saw this.)

  40. cranky-d says:

    As far as I am concerned, a private business can refuse to provide a service to anyone for any reason. That probably makes me a racist.

  41. geoffb says:

    Re: Joe’s link in #12 to “Bill Maher Calls Republicans ‘A Deadly Enemy’

    My first, badly written and since taken down, pub post was on the strange relationship of Republican politicians treating Democrats as colleagues while the Democrats treated Republicans as their mortal enemy. Hint for Mr. Maher this only works if you never come right out and say it. Doing that can break the spell.

  42. newrouter says:

    how many illegals were hired?

  43. Bob Reed says:

    There were a few on the mall near the Lincoln memorial today…

    Probably got there on buses driven by filthy SCABZ!1!11! #@&#%RATZ!!1!11

    But, you know, they cost less to charter.

  44. Lamontyoubigdummy says:

    christer-bigotry

    Yeah, not so cool with that.

    Tell ya what happy, if that’s how it is, you go publicly suck a dick in Riyadh, Islamabad or Tehran and you let us know how that turns out. If they allow you any last words before they cut off your fucking head, you use ’em to tell everybody listening how oppressive the “Christers” are.

  45. Bob Reed says:

    I agree cranky-d.

    I mean, what if the KKK had requested all white sheet cakes (SWIDT) and tasty cupcakes shaped like their pointy-headed hoods? And were refused…

  46. happyfeet says:

    hey I looked really hard after I got the link to find that article what was supportive of the business owners

  47. sdferr says:

    I got “values” is still a stupid word out of that fox cupcakes video story. Think the values users will ever pick-up on it? Doesn’t seem likely, does it?

  48. zulu-as-kono says:

    how do you say- ilove cupcakes in japanese?
    watashi wa kappu keeki ga suki desu…
    you crazy baldhead

  49. happyfeet says:

    what I got sent was just a fox story and it was sort of a nice story but it was all video without any text

  50. happyfeet says:

    I guess that the American Family Association got involved puts a for reals christer spin on it

  51. geoffb says:

    I see cupcake is another word we loaned to Japan, like coffee and party.

  52. sdferr says:

    I haven’t listened to that new one in 49 yet hf, but it looks different than the other, which had a headline about homophobic bakery or some such. People in the stories and lead-in readers also seem to have trouble differentiating cookies from cupcakes somehow.

  53. Bob Reed says:

    Perhaps the interviewee meant to say violate the values of the owners, or something like that sdferr.

    Or do you disagree with thier choice of wording?

  54. cranky-d says:

    I believe the bakery is called “Just Cookies” or some such name, which might be leading to the confusion. Plus, they obviously sell more than cookies.

  55. happyfeet says:

    yes Mr. sdferr this is about the party what was held afterwards to affirm that cupcakes are for everybody not just people we agree with…

    but yeah that’s a subplot to the story – whether or not “just cookies” had any responsibility to make a cupcake – but the kids say they would have been happy with cookies, so it may be a moot point

  56. sdferr says:

    Go listen to the people talk about values Bob. They’re all stupid if you ask me, at least to the extent they gleefully use an empty word to stand in for things they claim to be profoundly moved by.

  57. Jeff G. says:

    A post about the dirty socialists and their May Day rally, and happy takes it to bashing “Christers.”

    Griefer.

  58. Bob Reed says:

    I guess that Advocates for Sexual Equality requesting the goods for national coming out day puts a militant gay spin on it.

  59. newrouter says:

    is the gay bakery producing jesus cookies?

  60. happyfeet says:

    nonono this was just supposed to be a link but it sorta spiraled into a discussion Mr. Jeff you go ahead and talk about your rally I have to go to dinner anyway I will see you later

  61. Bob Reed says:

    I’ll have to listen to it later sdferr, no earphones and there are others in the room with me focusing on something else.

    But do you think values is an empty word; or just thier employment of it?

  62. newrouter says:

    man beth just took down the “man”

  63. cranky-d says:

    I wonder if anyone who doesn’t watch FauxNewz will see the truth of the slant of the coverage of this rally from the MFM. I doubt it.

    The whole thing is so blindingly obvious and the media shills refuse to see the truth of it. That is disheartening.

  64. sdferr says:

    I think, as I have said, that values is a stupid word when used in a political context referring to principled stands. Once you hear the story, you’ll hear that both the cupcake refuser uses values to avoid saying specifically what he stands for and you’ll hear the cupcake seekers do much the same. It is still, in my opinion, a hideous insertion into political speech, adding nothing and detracting much. But damned if it is going to go away any time soon: people just like avoiding being plain too much to give it up.

  65. pdbuttons says:

    lady macbeth do splutter.. ann drool..
    is that a banquo in ur codpiece?
    or am i just a crazy bitch?

  66. Bob Reed says:

    Well, I agree that it’s all too often used deliberately as a vaguery when there are much more specific words that could used. Also as a catch-all when someone doesn’t know what else to say; like calling people “values voters”. I’d prefer that everyone vote based on thier principled beliefs, as opposed to emotion or uninformed intuition.

    But I also think that there are contexts where it is applicable. Like saying “our values are…”, followed by a list.

  67. newrouter says:

    that values is a stupid word

    do you value limited gov’t or communism?

  68. sdferr says:

    We can do better without it I think Bob. Maybe the sociologists want to keep it. They can have it back gratis, no charge.

  69. Rob Crawford says:

    Another note: on Levin’s show last evening, a caller noted that her husband — a union electrician — was told that if his shop didn’t fill up a bus voluntarily, they’d all be required to go to the rally.

    They did that for a “team building” exercise at work. A hell of a lot of people brushed up their resume’s that night.

  70. sdferr says:

    go fuck yourself newrouter. how’s about that for a value?

  71. newrouter says:

    go fuck yourself newrouter. how’s about that for a value?

    family dollar has good value

  72. pdbuttons says:

    so wise/ so young
    they never do live that long

  73. JHo says:

    At least commies

    Why yes, yes they do, AJB.

    So you really do have a philosophy. Oh Yes You Do™.

  74. cynn says:

    It was certainly a half assed showing. It’s all too bad.

  75. JHo says:

    It’s all too bad.

    Oh hell, it’s not so bad once you get used to it.

  76. JHo says:

    And I’m guessing at least three quarters of the country aren’t planning to get too used to it, cynn. The ungrateful pricks.

  77. Bob Reed says:

    If it were only 3/4 of the folks for sure; and that they would all vote on Nov 2…

    Definitely have some bums thrown out then.

  78. Pablo says:

    I’m watching what I missed on the replay, and I can’t believe they got all these fraternities and sororities! It’s like there’s One Nation totally Working Together.

    Toga, toga, toga!

  79. Bob Reed says:

    Pablo,
    I wouldn’t put it past some of the local professors to be govong credit for attending the event, or at minimum, “service” credit.

  80. Rob Crawford says:

    At least commies…

    Have a bigger butcher’s bill than the fascists?

    Are responsible for the 20th century’s famines?

    Piled the skulls in an orderly fashion in Cambodia?

    Are responsible for the biggest ecological disasters in history?

  81. cynn says:

    Jhoward: You’d be surprised at how many people are laying low, simply waiting to vote their best intrests…

  82. Darleen says:

    sdferr

    I know you prefer the word “principle” to “values”; unfortunately you are not going to be able to Bowdlerize the word “value” from the dictionary because a person still has to discover what s/he must value in order to form principles.

  83. Ric Locke says:

    cynn: I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I see lots of people keeping things close to their chests.

    I’d be a lot happier if I thought I had a good feel for what they thought their best interests were. If it’s “ooh, they’ll give me money!” I don’t expect much good to come of it.

    Regards,
    Ric

  84. serr8d says:

    Jhoward: You’d be surprised at how many people are laying low, simply waiting to vote their best intrests…

    Best interests, huh?

    What if their unformulated and shrunken to low-down values system doesn’t have the best interests of the nation incorporated therein? Ben Franklin: “We should make the poor uncomfortable and kick them out of poverty.” Now there’s a values-based best-interest story for you, Cynn. Have your tough love and eat it too, along with a multi-colored cupcake spiked with blotter acid sans the blotter.

  85. motionview says:

    At least commies know how to spell…Execution orders.

  86. serr8d says:

    Oh, this is pretty good. Today’s rally? The TEAT Party.

  87. cynn says:

    SerrId: Fuck you. The beauty of our jackass polity is that you are as worthless as any other bloviator.

  88. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Mahers rant is an indication he see’s Obama being isolated more and more by the day, and his sneaky little elitist ass is trying to stay on the popular side of his Left viewing audience since his ratings are down almost as bad as the Dems.

    – He doesn’t want to be late to the throw Bumbblefuck under the bus party, but has to intermingle his damning comments at the golden Urkle with red meat for the knuckleheads.

  89. happyfeet says:

    here’s another inneresting picture from the rally

  90. serr8d says:

    Cynn, thanks! for the offer, but I wouldn’t fuck you with a long-neck wine bottle even if a drank a case of filled ones first. I hope I wouldn’t, anyway.

    No worries, though; I’ve heard from good sources you prefer teh boxes anyways.

  91. Anyone see any monster puppets at this thing? Or was it all goonions?

  92. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – What was it that caused contact burns to your eyes and forehead cynn, the word ‘Teat’.

  93. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – The Monster puppets are non-union TSI, so no show for this one. Thry may have been on the outer periphery in the march throughs.

  94. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – The AFL-CIO should update their media blitz with a new set of sweatshop ads, ending with their signature jingle: “….just look for the Marxist label, where ever you buy your families clothes….”

  95. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    It was certainly a half assed showing. It’s all too bad.

    Yep, cynn, your Socialist juggernaut sure does ruin everything pronto – apparently the giant paper mache’ puppets have suddenly gone extinct!

  96. sdferr says:

    It’s stupid is all. Doesn’t say anything about removing the word from stupid people who’re going to go right on using it. Of course they’re going to go right on doing the same stupid thing they did without thinking before, otherwise they wouldn’t have done it in the first place.

  97. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Moonbeam really gets creepy when he start to wax biblically. He ended his comments in the debate with Whittman by saying:

    “I will do the best I can to find jobs, but also to be fair. I will treat everybody, whether they are documented or not, as God’s child,”

    – Knowing him that could be an indication that crucifixion’s will begin in earnest if he gets in.

  98. happyfeet says:

    I think people forget

    In the general election, Brown defeated Republican State Senator Charles Poochigian 56.3% to 38.2%, which was the largest margin of victory in any statewide California race except the US Senate in which Dianne Feinstein’s opponent did not mount a strong challenge.

    This is a big part of why it’s kind of surprising that Meg thinks she can buy the governorship. But then the last guy’s name was Poochigian, so who knows I guess.

  99. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – On the other hand its very possible that the Brown/Allred shameful exploitation of a woe begotten undocumented worker will not set well with many of the Hispanic demographic. The left continues to treat them as a group as if they’re stupid at their own peril I think.

  100. J."Trashman" Peden says:

    Along with the Obama “juggernaut”, back in the heady good old days cynn also boasted of her definitive rating of her male consorts, but, cynn honey, now as a necessary proxy for both I’m still quite willing to settle for a “no holes barred” review of your Fudgesicle encounters.

  101. happyfeet says:

    I’m curious to see… I think Meg tried hard in the debate to communicate the idea that Jerry’s campaign a lot hurt the maid and increased the likelihood of her being deported.

  102. happyfeet says:

    I love this more than honey grapefruit gelato

  103. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Thats the point feets. A lawyers first obligation is to protect her client. In what way, and for what reason would a properly acting lawyer hold a press conference and out her client in front of the world. There is no reason, other than a hoped for political hack job on Whitmann, and screw the consequences for the worker herself.

    – If the gal had a claim for any back wages owed she only had to produce proof in the form of tangible documentation to her real employer, the employment agency she actually worked for. Meg had absolutely no further obligation. Allred outed her, not Meg.

    – This sort of miscast attack is illutrative of just how desperate Brown is at this point. BTW, a poll taken after this scam started shows Meg has gained a slight edge over Brown for all his antics.

  104. happyfeet says:

    it’s very weird I wonder if the maid can sue Gloria for malpractice

  105. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – Ironically enough that’s both very possible, and when they toss her aside when she’s no longer useful, very likely. There’s also a question of unethical action by Allred, since she’s been payed as an activist/lawyer by the Cal Dem party from time to time. That could show conflict of interest in litigation and run afowl of several campaigning laws.

  106. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – One thing that seems to have escaped the attention of the MFM trying to keep this alive with slanted reporting is the fact that to date Brown has never once denied he’s involved in this scam up to his elbows.

    – Apparently no one in the lame-stream media can think of asking that simple question. You notice moonbeam said not a word of denial when Whitman threw it in his face.

  107. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – She missed to boat a bit. She should have come right back at him after he stopped bloviating and put that too him right between his eyes…..”Then you don’t deny you and your campaign are behind this last minute smeer campaign at the expense of this poor woman.”

    – She needs to learn the counters for Leftwing attack politics.

  108. happyfeet says:

    I read the debate I didn’t see it but it read like he kicked her ass… I was cringing for her

  109. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I don’t think he exactly kicked her ass, but she certainly missed a golden opportunity to really bury him in the mess he’s caused. She could have easily put him on the defensive, and she didn’t do it.

  110. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I’m sure the Dems will pay Nikki well enough to keep her on the plantation til after the election, but she may do a Sherrod on them. She doesn’t seem terribly stable based on the news conference.

  111. happyfeet says:

    I thought her answer about Obamacare was tepid. That was her cue to sound alarmed, maybe even sound a little angry. She didn’t come across as alarmed or angry. Here’s that answer:

    Well healthcare is an enormous challenge in California and it’s driving up the cost of small business. I think I’ve run into so many small business people who have had to, you know, cut back on their health insurance or it really kept them from hiring more workers because health insurance had gotten so expensive. The problem is Obama care is going to make it worse for small businesses not better. There is a requirement for very expensive healthcare insurance on the behalf of small business. It’s going to create, every small business person I’ve talked to says, this is going to create a huge burden. So at a time when we need to make it easier for small businesses, we’re going to make it harder. The other issue is it could put another $3 billion unfunded liability on California, meaning we’re going to owe $3 billion more when we already have a $20 billion budget deficit. So here’s what I’d do, first is if you want to bring down the cost of things in our society, the way you do it is open up some competition. We should open up California to more insurance competition so there’s more choices for people, more ability to buy plans. Second we should make sure that we eliminate the fraud in Medicare and Medi-Cal. Estimates are $3 billion to $5 billion of fraud in that system and that’s because we don’t use technology to do more with less. The computer system in the state of California belongs in a museum. I come from Silicon Valley and we can do a lot better and then we can use electronic medical records to make sure that we bring down the costs of healthcare for everyone which will allow us to cover more individuals and that’s the ultimate goal. But I don’t think Obama care is the way to go because it’s going to hurt small business.

    yawn, huh? $3 billion on top of the current deficit – bitch needs to get a little perturbed on my behalf I think. And then the next question where she talks about the budget she sounds even more lackadaisical.

  112. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – If anyone close to her that really cares about her sits her down and shows her how she’s being used, and who her real abuser’s are the Dems and Brown, as well as Allred may have a really big problem. I’m sure they’ll try to keep her isolated as much as possible.

  113. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I’m sure the Left campaign machine believe the Hispanics are too dumb to see through this ruse.

  114. LBascom says:

    Well happyfeet, no one wants to hear a panicky woman screeching…

  115. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – In the case of healthcare, one of the things you’re going to see a lot more of as the government interfers more and more is a growing private based health care industry that people make use of that can afford it, much the same as private schooling.

    – Obama and his henchmen were all to aware of what their over reach and meddling would result in, thus the mandatory clauses in his health plan, much as families are forced to support public education through their taxes regardless whether they use the services or not. This war will continue as long as government is allowed to effectively nationalize entire industries/services like they’ve done in the health industry. the only way to reverse that trend is get gov the hell out of it. Medicare and Calmed are a problem because its being given to people that have nothing to do with Social security. That’s how it went off the rails, both nationally and within the state. That needs to be dialed back. It’s the way the entitlements industry gets around the law, and its actually illegal.

  116. happyfeet says:

    she can do angry though without doing screechy remember she’s the one where eBay had to pay a 6-figure settlement for when Meg got physical with a staffer she was pissed at – maybe she’s afraid of showing that Meg – she probably had to take classes as part of the settlement

  117. LBascom says:

    eh, personally I can do without all the drama and emotion. Professional competence is what I want to see, not anger.

    If I were going to vote for her that is…

  118. happyfeet says:

    I think at least a little anger’s a reassuring sign they’re living in the same world as the rest of us.

  119. LBascom says:

    Heh, the woman spent 120 million of her own dollars to be the governor. You think she lives in your world?

    I ask you, do you have an illegal cleaning your house?

    I thought not.

  120. sdferr says:

    Kitty Dukakis

  121. John Bradley says:

    Because no evening is complete without a little Palin-slogging, here’s an excerpts from a long (aren’t they all?) post
    over at HillBuzz. The writer is describing an encounter with a
    gay man who hates Palin because she’s the “new Anita
    Bryant”… but then can’t offer any examples of Palin mounting a
    Bryant-esque anti-gay crusade — and is confused about who Anita
    Bryant even was.

    I have not yet tracked down the source of that “she’s the new
    Anita Bryant” attack meme, but it’s currently making the rounds,
    being repeated by people like Phillip who are trying to shoehorn
    the Governor into the role of female anti-gay crusader because
    the “Anita Bryant” character is straight out of central casting
    for a convenient villain to retread and use to alienate the
    Governor from Independent voters.

    That’s the real goal with this garbage, folks. When Cooper,
    Maddow, Matthews, and Olbermann test drive a new line of attack
    against Governor Palin, they’re fully aware the gay community is
    listening and will parrot those attacks back…but the real agenda
    is for the STRAIGHT FRIENDS of gays to hear these attacks, and
    have their friendships with those repeating these memes give it
    all credence.

    Independent voters are more likely to believe something a friend
    tells them than they are to accept as truth whatever the TV
    said. Highly-partisan Democrats, like those found here in
    Boystown, accept whatever is broadcast on television against
    conservatives as gospel, however. Democrats know this and use it
    to their extreme advantage, because they realize the gay
    community will unquestioningly parrot attacks against Governor
    Palin, without stopping to think about their veracity, and the
    Independent straight voters they are friends or co-workers with
    will then accept that “Palin is the new Anita Bryant” pejorative
    because their hip, cool, “informed” gay friend told them this.

    This is all important to consider even though the gay community
    will not ever vote Republican in large enough numbers to warrant
    any sort of aggressive recruitment and campaigning push in
    Boystown. […] But, Democrats have successfully engineered
    a paradigm where being gay means being a lifelong, blind Democrat
    voter since the entire Democrat Party rests precariously upon a
    stack of identity voting blocs…where people born female, gay,
    black, Jewish, Hispanic, you name it MUST always vote Democrat,
    no matter how bad this is for them economically, because
    Democrats spread the meme that if you vote Republican you are a
    “race/gender/identity traitor”.

    […]

    Even logical, professional, well-educated guys like Phillip
    degenerate quickly into raving, emotional, lunatics when asked
    simple questions like “Why do you say you hate Governor Palin
    when you don’t even know anything about her?”.

    I think there’s no way to ever STOP the Phillips in the gay
    community from being the unthinking parrots for Leftist talking
    points that they are. It’s a waste of time to even try.

    […]

    Independent voters need to keep asking, “Why does the Left hate
    this woman so much? Why do they call her all these names? Why do
    people “hate” her when they can’t give any valid reasons for
    “hating” her?”

    […]

    As a Republican, and a conservative woman, the Governor is never
    going to get Boystown to vote for her…but I bet Palin supporters
    can get Independent voters to stop paying any attention to what
    the Palin-haters in Boystown have to say about her.

    Sorry about the length. My emphasis. Resemblance to any PW commentors, living or dead, is merely coincidental.

  122. John Bradley says:

    (Stupid old hard CR’s, boogering up the text wrapping.)

  123. happyfeet says:

    Palinesque figures are capable of stirring strong emotional responses – both for them but also against them… as you will see in the following.

    there is great adoration

    October 23, 2009 at 1:29 a.m.
    loving justin bieber

    i love you justin bieber and i am ur biggest fan, i know everything about you and i listened to all ur song i memirised ur liryics and i watched all ur videos and there awsome….i love you please come to canada for a consert no one ever cam e and youll be the first one so please come…. and i heard tht ur coming to kelvin high school next year and if u are ill see you there so please come to winnipeg and come to kelvin high school… thnxs love u soo much ur my lover (L)*

    similarly also there is widespread denigration

    A Facebook page entitled “I Hate Justin Bieber” has more than 180,000 fans and includes discussion topics such as “Justin Bieber sings like a girl” and “ways to kill Justin”.

    Those who are not enamoured by Bieber can even download a “shaved Bieber” application for their internet browser that blocks out any mention of the pop star while they surf the internet.*

    I think we should all take a moment to congratulate kevindujan01 at HillBuzz.

    Congratulations to kevindujan01 at HillBuzz! You discovered pop culture!

  124. geoffb says:

    Independent voters are more likely to believe something a friend
    tells them than they are to accept as truth whatever the TV
    said.

    See this article.

    Depressingly, the Yale project study finds that people “more readily count someone as an expert when that person endorses a conclusion that fits their cultural predispositions.”

  125. Silver Whistle says:

    … can even download a “shaved Bieber”

    Don’t let your mom catch you doing that.

  126. geoffb says:

    the entire Democrat Party rests precariously upon a stack of identity voting blocs…where people born female, gay, black, Jewish, Hispanic, you name it MUST always vote Democrat, no matter how bad this is for them economically, because Democrats spread the meme that if you vote Republican you are a “race/gender/identity traitor”.

    Trust and fear are the glue that welds each of these groups to the Democrats. These being emotional things they are resistant to arguments based on reason. Reason can work, slowly, since for many on the left, being there is an abusive relationship the trust wears thin over time. Trust thus works better among the young, the ignorant the un/misinformed. When the trust wears thin only the fear remains.

    This fear is of two types. Fear that the other, the dreaded other, the conservatives will/do hate, loath, and wish to harm you in unspeakable ways due to your identity which is something you can never change. No matter how badly the Democrats treat you that other will do worse. This fear is also something that depends on trusting the word of the Democrats and it to can wear away with time as it is shown and learned to be false.

    That then leaves only the second fear. That is the fear of what those on the left will do to you if you reject them. This one is the left’s last stand and as their power wanes it too slips away. There are parallels here to all tyrannies as they all work through these mechanisms and when only the last fear is holding them in place it can all collapse suddenly when the last fear is seen to be an illusion.

    Congratulations to kevindujan01 at HillBuzz! You discovered pop culture!

    True in a way but as with Sports you can have a total emotional investment in some aspect of Pop Culture without any downside in the real world for doing so.

    Politics is not Pop Culture or Sports. Which side wins and which side loses has consequences for yourself, your friends, your family, everyone. Choose badly and your entire world, the entire world, can go very bad very fast.

  127. geoffb says:

    This may have been linked earlier. This is where things go when only the last fear remains.

  128. winston smith says:

    No, feets, Justin Bieber, hasn’t balanced budgets, challenged the grip of the oil companies, revamped
    the State’s tax code, and carried that lumbering Pachyderm, close to the finish line, with the dozen knives in the back from the likes of Schmidt, Wallace ‘Iceberg’ Murphy and the like

  129. Random Marlene says:

    you prefer teh boxes anyways

    Any port in a storm, baby.

  130. serr8d says:

    So, now we’re comparing Justin Bieeiber to Sarah Palin, ‘feets? I do love the smell of desperation cupcakes burning in your easy-bake oven so early in the mornings.

  131. John Bradley says:

    Palinesque figures are capable of stirring strong emotional responses – both for them but also against them… as you will see in the following.

    True enough. But if one side of the emotional coin is largely correct and fact-based, and the other side is based largely on SNL skits and memes the liberal media have promulgated (they only have conservatives best interests at heart, after all) — one would hope that the persuadable middle could be brought on board, eventually.

    Which would seem to be what Mr. HillBuzz is suggesting. It’s at least worth making the effort. Ceding the narrative to the left isn’t especially helpful.

    Just because Ms. Palin is (apparently) considered terribly divisive at this moment, doesn’t mean the same will be true in 6 months or a year.

    As an example, we all remember the HopeyChangey wave that swept the nation in 2008. Yesterday I was down at the Jersey shore, looking at the T-Shirt shops and various cheap souvenir crap… keeping an eye on the memes sweeping the 18-25 year old set. I saw a surprising number of shirts with anti-O! messages, the Bush “miss me yet!” thing, etc. I wouldn’t have expected any, given the (supposed) monolithic youth mindset. But it’s edgy and hip to mock the Golden One at this point. It’s certainly anti-establishment.

    The ‘punks’ of today will be conservative/classic liberal, because what could be more of an “up yours” attitude to take to the current culture.

    Point being – attitudes change, and they can change hard when the moment is right.

  132. happyfeet says:

    Sarah Palin is presidential = Justin Bieber is grammy-worthy I think. But what the difference is? Palin will get nominated. And then Obama and his media will pop a cap in her ass in the general.

    And then Sarah Palin will write a book.

  133. ThomasD says:

    Monday morning I am making an effort to tune in to the first hour of Beck. Just to hear him crow about the lame turnout yesterday. I suspect the dude is going to be feeling rather triumphant.

  134. winston smith says:

    No, he’s not grammy worthy, although they might nominate his performance as a ‘tea party terrorist’
    on CSI just to press the point. You think there is no way they won’t demonize spending, were you around in 1995, when Gingrich, a much more flawed figure, proposed just trimming the rate of growth

  135. guinsPen says:

    Sorry.

    Today we put up a mini-movie about 10:10 and climate change called ‘No Pressure’.

    With climate change becoming increasingly threatening, and decreasingly talked about in the media, we wanted to find a way to bring this critical issue back into the headlines whilst making people laugh. We were therefore delighted when Britain’s leading comedy writer, Richard Curtis – writer of Blackadder, Four Weddings, Notting Hill and many others – agreed to write a short film for the 10:10 campaign. Many people found the resulting film extremely funny, but unfortunately some didn’t and we sincerely apologise to anybody we have offended.

    As a result of these concerns we’ve taken it off our website. We won’t be making any attempt to censor or remove other versions currently in circulation on the internet.

    We’d like to thank the 50+ film professionals and 40+ actors and extras and who gave their time and equipment to the film for free. We greatly value your contributions and the tremendous enthusiasm and professionalism you brought to the project.

    At 10:10 we’re all about trying new and creative ways of getting people to take action on climate change. Unfortunately in this instance we missed the mark. Oh well, we live and learn.

    Onwards and upwards,

    Franny, Lizzie, Eugenie and the whole 10:10 team

    You’re merely lacking a backing track, kids.

    I say go old school.

  136. happyfeet says:

    about spending I think that if the TARP gets paid back then that a lot changes the complexion of what bumblefuck can claim he inherited

  137. bh says:

    Heh, guins. That does seem more fitting.

  138. bh says:

    About TARP: it might go against our short term interests to make this point but it really does need to be said that it strongly reinforced the idea that bailouts will come your way if you make sure to screw the pooch on an epic scale. It’ll be payed back, but it kept people from getting hurt who should have gotten hurt and it definitely increased the odds of future occurrences.

    “Heads I win, tails you lose” or the agency problem isn’t going away but it needs to be recognized for what it is. Dangerous and to be systemically minimized being what it is.

  139. happyfeet says:

    I’m not pro-tarp I’m just saying that it’s now mitigating bumblefuck’s deficits in the out years and he owes Mr. Bush a thank you for that – the failed policies of the past are now making bumblefuck’s failshit ass look better than it otherwise would have

  140. bh says:

    Oh yeah, your point does stand though. From a fiscal standpoint, yes, it very much matters whether or not it’s paid back. TARP and the stimulus were both bad ideas but only one when end up as long term debt.

  141. bh says:

    Actually, I’d say that it doesn’t make Obama look better.

    The Dems like to point at TARP as proof of Bush’s loose spending habits(nevermind the fact that they supported it). Well, the fact that the loans will be paid back quite easily shows the difference between ill-advised loans and pure Keynesian deficit spending.

  142. winston smith says:

    Actually, TARP did not go to what it designed to solve, the Toxic Assets in the Title, it was spent on buying bank stocks, acquiring car companies, serving as a general slush fund, the problem is still with us

  143. happyfeet says:

    that’s a perfect distillation – America and her kids will be paying back bumblefuck’s plan for many moons to come but Bush’s plan paid America back

  144. happyfeet says:

    that’s a good point winston I think we can chalk up the $50 billion dollars what TARP will fall short to bumblefuck’s unwise investment in the uaw slush fund we call “GM”

  145. sdferr says:

    “. . . when only the last fear is holding them in place it can all collapse suddenly when the last fear is seen to be an illusion.”

    Doesn’t this work against the former object of fear, rather than against the fearful themselves? That is, as in the case of the French Revolution, once the power of the formerly presumed powerful is seen to be hollow, the fear turns to loathing, whereupon it’s Katie bar the door: the formerly cowed masses now turn on their exposed pretending-tormentors (the aristocrats, or in this case if the analogy holds, the left-demagogues)?

  146. bh says:

    I wouldn’t argue the net negative of TARP, Winston. And yes, no one thinks the GM IPO is going to make anyone whole. We’re taking a haircut. But, there is a simple book-keeping aspect to some of this. The TARP fund didn’t fix problems, created new ones but it wasn’t a complete write-down fiscally.

    The stimulus? All gone. On the books now and forever as debt.

  147. sdferr says:

    “All gone. On the books now and forever as debt.”

    What parts of StimpyStim have been spent, bh, surely are, but aren’t there still large sums remaining to be spent which might be stopped? Or am I not keeping up but working off a now dated account?

  148. bh says:

    You’re correct, sdferr. As to the actual figures, I don’t know.

  149. bh says:

    I suppose I should add many more qualifiers most the time.

    My main thrust though is that one can criticize both programs as ill-advised governmental intervention into the market but you can also criticize stimulus on much stronger fiscal grounds. The multiplier didn’t appear but one never relied on the multiplier to begin with.

  150. geoffb says:

    #145, sdferr,

    That is what I was trying to say but may have worded it badly. I wasn’t thinking the French Revolution, which is a bit complex, but more modern tyrannies where the last thing holding back the revolt is the fears of each individual for their and their loved ones safety from the retaliation of those in power.

  151. sdferr says:

    You have it bh — didn’t mean to step on the point but my hopeyness that some measure of sanity can arrest any continued throwing money down a rathole will out. That is, if Stimpy hasn’t been useful so far, there’s no reason not to try to stop it dead in its tracks and preserve whatever is left unspent.

  152. Big Bang Hunter says:

    – I think I saw some mention of the figure that something like 550 billion of the stimulus slush fund remains unspent.

  153. happyfeet says:

    I just read 70% had been spent already

  154. happyfeet says:

    here’s the Associated Press stenography

    Friday’s report says about two-thirds of the stimulus money has been spent via tax cuts or government spending and remarkably little of the money has gone out fraudulently.

  155. happyfeet says:

    The central weakness in the administration’s antiforeclosure efforts is that participation by lenders has been voluntary — with little or no consequences if loans are not adequately reworked*

    the New York Times’ yearning for totalitarianism continues unabated – I think it’s actually growing

  156. LTC John says:

    moneymen on 10/4 @ 5:58 am #

    Keeping the discourse civil and at a high level. Thanks for that.

  157. Carin says:

    Shorter Abram Leon:

    Jew hatred can only be eliminated when we abolish capitalism. Capitalism causes anti-semitism.

    From an Amazon review:

    This heroic book helped me understand why fascits and other rightists rely on anti-Jewish propaganda and why the Zionist response is a dead end. Abram Leon was a Jewish Marxist and working class leader in Nazi-occupied Belgium until being shipped to his death in Auschwitz. He points out that Jews are a social grouping that played a dynamic role during feudalism but have no role as a distinct class under capitalism. Because capitalist society will not assimilate them, they become ready scapegoats. The solution Leon proposes is to join with other workers in the fight for a socialist society in place of capitalism, which is the root of racist movements. Leon’s richly detailed history of the Jewish people challenges the myths of the Zionists. The fact that the imperialist nation of Israel has become the most dangerous place for Jews to live underscores Leon’s point about the danger of Zionism. If not available from amazon, booksfrompathfinder will have it–click on “new and used” near the top of the page.

    So, author of the Jewish Question – definitely not Himmler. Marxist, not a Nazi. Now you understand moneyman’s anger.

  158. Carin says:

    LTC, you know the worst thing you can call a “Marxist” is “Nazi.”

    Their motivations are completely different.

  159. […] union astro-turfed farce aka One Nation Together rally is the gift that just keeps giving. From the mounds and mounds […]

  160. Mikey NTH says:

    I just opened this thread to start reading it and surprise! Within a dozen comments it was being yanked off topic!

    The professional protest left and their hordes of pressed followers just really doesn’t have the discipline that a volunteer group, like the ones that Beck turned out, has. No enthusiasm, no pride, just the old shopworn crap from the sixties (the fliers look like they were first printed then) looking anywhere for a buyer.

    And the sight of the literature and other stuff spread over the ground afterwards tells you how much they value that stuff.

  161. moneymen says:

    “Keeping the discourse civil and at a high level.”

    Himmler dude. Himmler. I guess the only way to get more civil and high level than “Himmler” is to point out that really all that Abram Leon shows is the intellectual bankruptcy of those that equate Jews with a single view of a single type of Zionism.

    “Their motivations are completely different.”

    Not just that, but the dude actually resisted “himmler” and was killed. That earns the “asshole” part.

  162. winston smith says:

    Except they were scapegoats under Babylonia, Egyptian, Assyrian, Ptolemaic, Roman, well you get the picture, Marx had a deep anti Jewish streak, because of his hatred for Commerce, and Trade, and a certain amount of self loathing.

  163. LoverLovernios says:

    Stalin resisted Hitler, too.

  164. moneymen says:

    He had a bit of an easier time of it. Also, against the wishes of those like Abram, helped create Israel.

  165. Mueller,Private Eye says:

    #15
    “Your guess is wrong, asshole.”

    You’ve waited all year to say that, haven’t you?

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