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“The Left loses its way by abandoning ‘third way'”

Michael Barone:

Left parties are in trouble in the Anglosphere. Here in America Democrats are doing worse in the polls than at any time in the last 50 years. In Britain the Labor party is on the brink of finishing third, behind both Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, in the election next Thursday.

[…]

[…] Barack Obama and Blair’s successor, Gordon Brown, head governments that are running budget deficits of 10 percent of gross domestic product. Both are promoting higher taxes and expansion of government programs.

The financial crisis is one reason for the large deficits. But it is undeniable that to varying extents both Obama and Brown have pursued more statist policies than their predecessors did a dozen years ago.

And it is undeniable too that both are in trouble with the voters.

In these circumstances it is surprising that the pundit class is not chiding Obama and Brown for abandoning the politically successful policies of Clinton and Blair. The same pundit class is always ready to chide American Republicans and British Conservatives for not pursuing the courses that Rockefeller Republicans and pre-Thatcher “wet” Conservatives pursued with some political success a much longer time ago.

Rocky and the wets supported a continuing expansion of government and maintaining the power of labor unions. But a British party last won an election on that platform in 1974, 36 years ago, and no American president has been elected on such a platform between 1964 and 2008. And with Democrats plunging in the polls, Obama’s election is beginning to look like an exception that proves the rule.

Americans may have voted for “hope and change,” but not in the form of the 2009 stimulus package and the 2010 health care bill.

Looking back in history, the Rockefeller Republicans chose their course because they believed their party could not beat New Deal Democrats except by moving some distance toward their philosophy. And in particular they believed they could not beat Democrats in New York, which in the first half of the 20th century was both the nation’s largest state and one of the politically most marginal.

But by the early 1960s New York was no longer the nation’s largest state and was safely Democratic. And by the early 1970s Americans were no longer voting for big government. The Rockefeller strategy was rendered obsolete.

It’s not clear that the Clinton New Democratic strategy is similarly obsolete. Clinton calculated that Democrats could not win except by making inroads in the South and by making big gains in the suburbs. That’s how he won twice, and Obama improved on his leads in the suburbs and carried three Southern states with Northern-accented suburbs (Virginia, North Carolina and Florida).

But Obama ran well behind in eight Southern-accented and Mountain states that Clinton carried in 1992. And polling now shows Democrats weaker than Obama was in 2008 virtually everywhere except in university towns and the affluent precincts of metro New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco.

[my emphasis]

If this is the case, the great demographic shift that some progressives keep touting seems to be concentrating itself in very specific regions, and so will be less of a force in electoral college voting than these same progressives surmise.

Which, I guess, is what you get when you stand for elitist gentrification disguised in the garb of championing “social justice.”

But I digress.

Similarly, in Britain polling has shown Brown’s Labor party holding its traditional redoubts in declining industrial towns but getting shellacked in the affluent suburbs where Blair’s New Labor thrived.

The left parties have reacted to their unpopularity by playing the race card. Democrats have tried to portray Tea Partiers as racist and Brown called a lifelong Labor voter who questioned his policies a “bigoted woman.”

Blaming the voters is the last resort of a party in trouble. Old Labor and the Obama Democrats may not yet be finished. But they’re not doing as well as their “third way” predecessors.

Unfortunately, the GOP takeaway from all this seems to be that they themselves can capture that “third way vote” — which has the practical effect of moving Republicans ideological toward 90s Democrats, in an ever increasing lurch leftward in search of votes.

This is is dubious move, both electorally and certainly from the standpoint of party principles, which as they become increasingly statist (McCain, after all, was nothing if not a “conservative” statist) close certain gaps between what it means to be “liberal” and what it means to be “conservative” in the US — with the current usage of “liberal” better describing the New Left than anything resembling classical liberalism.

The GOP, in other words, seems to believe it can gain power by remaining socially conservative in many areas, while promising to govern in other areas in a way that is consonant with the big government ambitions of progressives. That is, they continue to run as “Democrat light” when it comes to government scope — while often highlighting only the “social conservative” part of conservatism as a sop to what they believe is their base.

In doing so, they will continue to give us Romneys and McCains on one hand and Huckabees on the other — without ever really giving us the kind of candidate that best sells conservative / classical liberal principles.

The Tea partiers, for all that they’ve been demonized on both the left and, counterintuitively, in certain circles on the right given to sneering, are nevertheless creating the conditions where a challenge to prevailing GOP wisdom is forthcoming: fiscal and legal conservatism are being highlighted, and as a result now stand in sharp relief to both the progressivism the Obama administration and a leftist Congress has foisted on us and the GOP-flavored attempt to recapture electoral lightning in a bottle by recreating Clinton’s third way, with Republicans now the party of “we feel your pain.”

Some in the GOP seem to sense the shift. But the party leadership itself seems determined to continue its pander to what it seems certain are the big government desires of the vast middle of the electorate.

Me, I’d like to see the GOP seize this opportunity of nearly unprecedented Democrat declines in approval and popularity to push actual conservatism as an antidote. Doing so will tell the American electorate that the GOP is serious about more than just getting elected — that they will offer a real alternative to the excesses of big government that both parties have embraced, and that has led to the very economic and social breakdowns we are now undergoing.

But, politics being what it is, I won’t hold my breath.

214 Replies to ““The Left loses its way by abandoning ‘third way'””

  1. mojo says:

    1) Ignore the bullshit.
    2) It’s all bullshit.

  2. sdferr says:

    “Some in the GOP seem to sense the shift.”

    Some, I continue to hold out hope, have arrived where we are by taking the self-same path we have taken. There aren’t many such visible, I’ll warrant (Paul Ryan, for instance, seems one), but there are a few, and I’d wager, many others who simply haven’t stepped into the spotlight.

  3. Jeff G. says:

    Let’s hope so sdferr.

    Mojo —

    What does “it’s” refer to?

  4. JHo says:

    This morning a BBC interview with William Hague of the Conservative party was aired on NPR. Amazingly, Hague is openly advocating a resurgence of British influence around the world in politics and education, presumably so as to create new allies and greater homeland security. The transcript doesn’t seem to be online yet.

    Hearing this on the car radio, I almost drove in the ditch.

  5. Kresh says:

    I’m not assuming that the current GOP leadership will get it’s head out of it’s collective keister. All the GOP has to do to look like it’s winning (and thus think itself a successful brand) is merely not suck as bad as the Democrats. They’re conservative only as far as being a muted opposition to the worst of the Democrat big government shennanigans. That’s it. John McCain IS the current GOP standard of conservatism.

    Until the current GOP leadership gets the boot, or gets a boot up it’s ass, they’ll be more than happy to ride the current anti-Democrat status quo until they loose another election cycle. It’s the Republican’s election to loose and they just might be up to the task.

  6. Kresh says:

    Hearing this on the car radio, I almost drove in the ditch.

    Yeah, that appears to be the appropriate response. I always loose control of the vehicle when my jaw drops into my lap. It’s quite painful on the boys.

  7. R. Sherman says:

    I’m with Kresh. I’ll believe a shift to smaller government and less interference in my life initiated by the GOP when I see it. Until then, I hold little hope. I mean, how long did it take for many ‘Pubs to start walking back repealing Obamacare in its entirety in favor keeping the–quote–good–unquote parts.

    Oy.

  8. Silver Whistle says:

    The GOP, in other words, seems to believe it can gain power by remaining socially conservative in many areas, while promising to govern in other areas in a way that is consonant with the big government ambitions of progressive.

    This is very much the ideology of the present "Conservative" Party, under its statist leader Dave Cameron, who has gone to great lengths to underline how much he disagreed with Thatcher’s conservatism/Austrian school economics. There is nothing conservative about the party anymore. The ironically named Liberal Democrats look like beating Labour into third place – this is the party that The Guardian has endorsed, for heaven’s sake, abandoning the Labour Party for only the third time in its history. The Lib Dems have an unfortunate habit of tolerating party apparatchiks who see the heavy hand of "the Jewish lobby"  everywhere; their leader Nick Clegg  previously called on PM Gordon Brown to "… also halt Britain’s arms exports to Israel, and persuade our EU counterparts to do the same".*

    Such is Henry Ford’s choice for the British electorate this Thursday: any colour you want, as long as it’s red. I’m a wee bit disillusioned.

  9. Dread Cthulhu says:

    The weakness is that conservative, small government policies seldom give a politician a sheaf of “accomplishments” to run for re-election upon…

    Too many politicians and nary a statesman in sight.

  10. Silver Whistle says:

    Dread, I look at Thatcher’s accomplishments, and would vote for more of the same in a heartbeat. But, to take your point, I doubt if a quarter of the UK electorate share my preferences.

  11. sdferr says:

    “I doubt if a quarter of the UK electorate share my preferences.”

    Then they will pay dearly for theirs, to their chagrin in future.

  12. Silver Whistle says:

    As long as nanny’s teat is there to suckle, there will be no complaints. Once the milk dries up – why, then you can call us Greeks.

  13. Kevin B says:

    Whoever leads the next UK government will be forced, by the IMF if nothing else, to wean the people off the government tit. They will then, in the time honoured fashion of democracies everywhere, be thrown out and consigned to the wilderness for a generation for their troubles.

    By then, the next bunch of statists will have “run out of other people’s money” and the cycle can start again. This fact explains why the labour party selected such a useless idiot as Gordoom, first as Chancellor and then as Prime Minister. They are desperate to lose this time. It might also explain the phenomenon that is Dave. It’s either that, or the long march has reached the tory party.

  14. Kresh says:

    As long as nanny’s teat is there to suckle, there will be no complaints. Once the milk dries up – why, then you can call us Greeks.

    It it really surprise buttseks when the collapse has been predicted for years?

    Just askin’.

  15. Silver Whistle says:

    It it really surprise buttseks when the collapse has been predicted for years?

    Just askin’.

    Nobody likes a Cassandra, Kresh. As Kevin B points out, it ain’t a vote winner. "Vote for me! I’ll cut your benefit!"

  16. Blake says:

    SW,

    I don’t know, with the current mood of the electorate, they may just understand everyone needs to feel some pain.

  17. Fred C. Dobbs says:

    I think the problem will be that too many fiscal conservatives will run in 2012, not that none will run. The multiple conservative candidates will split the conservative vote, and the social conservative or overall moderate will win the primary and lose the general to a weak Obama.

  18. Fred C. Dobbs says:

    I’m thinking of Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Bobby Jindahl, to name a few. And they will all have their supporters, which will split the fiscal conservative vote.

  19. Silver Whistle says:

    Not a chance, Blake:

    But in an interview on the Andrew Marr Show on BBC1, Cameron reassured wavering voters that he would match Labour’s pledge to protect frontline services.

    "What I can tell you is any cabinet minister, if I win the election, who comes to me and says: ‘Here are my plans’ and they involve frontline reductions, they’ll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again," he said.

  20. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    “push actual conservatism as an anecdote.”

    but you don’t HAVE actual conservatism…..and don’t you mean antidote, Mr. Language?
    all you have is a populist grievance movement.

  21. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    Read Meh.

    1. It is a populist driven movement- As the above quote from the late conservative icon, Russell Kirk demonstrates, conservatism is not populism. When factions of the American Right have been seduced in times past by a troubadour playing a populist hymn, it usually brings out the worst in them as Richard Hofstadter’s famous essay on the paranoid style in American politics so eloquently stated. So, when one sees signs held up at Tea Party rallies comparing Obama to an African witch doctor or signs implying taxpayers are Jews for Obama’s gas ovens there should be no surprise, its paranoid life imitating paranoid art.
    The Founders were well versed in their history. They knew especially the fate of Greek city-state democracies that fell to demagogues. Alexander Hamilton warned Americans about, “ times of such commotion as the present, while the passions of men are worked up to an uncommon pitch, there is great danger of fatal extremes” and later spoke of populist politicians that “begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people.”
    The other conservative Founding Fathers (i.e. John Adams, Gouverneur Morris, John Jay, Thomas Sedgwick, Rufus King, Fisher Ames et. al.) were on the same page with Hamilton. They saw populism as the dark arts of the ultra-democrat and rabble-rouser. Orestes Brownson would later in the 19th Century refer to the creed of the populist as “The people sovereign; the people are divine; the people are infallible and impeccable.” Needless to say, Brownson wrote that this is not a conservative creed nor should the conservative have any interest in seeing it prevail.
    Try and imagine if you can, Brownson or Hamilton barking like a seal the next time, FOX’s Laura Ingraham at a Tea Party rally, compares paying more taxes to the Nazi Holocaust.

  22. A fine scotch says:

    IGNORE THE TTP! Thatisall.

  23. Mike LaRoche says:

    I wonder how long it will take the Nishbot to get banned at FrumForum.

  24. JD says:

    Russell Kirk is rolling over in his fucking grave that Frum and Nishit the genocidal lying cunt would quote him.

  25. Matt says:

    The sad part is, fiscal responsibility is really simple and its a message that will resonate with the electorate. Lower taxes and less spending should be a good thing. But I’m convinced the pork machine that keeps most dems (and some repubs) getting re-elected is the primary objection to any reduction in spending- if you can’t bribe your constitutents to vote for you and must rely on your own merit and character? Well, I can see how that would be a bit scary for democrats.

  26. Matt says:

    Seriously? David Frum? That’s your best shot. How exactly has anyone who reads this site given any indication that we give a flying crap what Frum has to say.

  27. Danger says:

    “Me, I’d like to see the GOP seize this opportunity of nearly unprecedented Democrat declines in approval and popularity to push actual conservatism as an anecdote. Doing so will tell the American electorate that the GOP is serious about more than just getting elected — that they will offer a real alternative to the excesses of big government that both parties have embraced, and that has led to the very economic and social breakdowns we are now undergoing.”

    Hope and change? You decide:

    “Christie announced today he is removing Justice John E. Wallace and nominating Morris County lawyer Anne Murray Patterson to the seat.

    Wallace, 68, is the only black justice on court and is the first member of the court not to be reappointed after an initial seven-year term.”

    It seems the N.J. Gov has answered the calling whilst displaying brass loaded pants.

    Volley launched, target destroyed!

  28. Danger says:

    G’night all,

    Keep firing!!!!

  29. sdferr says:

    Cool, way cool. Hitting back rarely looks so good.

  30. B Moe says:

    The left has lost its way in every way.

    If he was older he might have had the wherewithal to shout back at them: “Do I look like a bloody chaffinch, you self-important, doctrinaire, Stalinist harridans?” But he didn’t, because he was only two years old, so he just cried his eyes out instead. What can we do about these people?

    What kind of heartless fucking bastards steal food from two year olds?

  31. Jim in KC says:

    I’m sure HHS will be doing the same thing here shortly, B Moe.

  32. Jim in KC says:

    Oh, and Clinton didn’t win merely because his “Third Way” was awesome. There was a relatively well-financed third party in those elections who might have influenced the outcome.

  33. dicentra says:

    That’s how he won twice

    Please. Ross Perot won those elections for him.

  34. Mr. W says:

    I don’t really have anything to say on this particular thread I just wanted to try out my new voice activation software. This may be the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen. I just speak and it writes it on the page, it’s really rather remarkable. And it smells a lot better than I do. I mean it smells a lot better than I do. Make that spells. Well it’s not perfect is it. But damn.

  35. SDN says:

    and so will be less of a force in electoral college voting than these same progressives surmise.

    Which is precisely why the progressives have been trying to abolish or circumvent the damn thing for years. Remember the Copperhead attempt to pass state laws requiring their electors to vote for the nationwide popular vote winner? Kind of takes the Electoral College out of the picture.

  36. Mr. W says:

    The abolition of the Democratic Party will occur at the exact same time as absentee voting, early voting, and voting without a drivers license are abolished.

    It is estimated that in some areas up to 25% of the Democrat party vote count is fraudulent. In the upcoming, I frankly do not see how they can manufacture the number of votes they will need to overcome the popular discontent.

    But his history shown us they may not work hard at much, but they knock themselves out for that vote fraud.

  37. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    That isn’t Frum, its Andrew Murphy.

    hmmm….hey language-boi, what do YOU think Kirk intended?

    “There prevails in America a conservative understanding of a popular character that is not Populism.”
    Russell Kirk, 1988

  38. Mike LaRoche says:

    There prevails at Protein Wisdom an understanding that Nishi has the intelligence quotient of a pomegranate.

  39. newrouter says:

    That isn’t Frum, its Andrew Murphy.

    its still frumpy

  40. Darleen says:

    Nishi has the intelligence quotient of a pomegranate

    Hey, stop that! Pomegranates are useful and tasty!

  41. Mike LaRoche says:

    Haha, indeed Darleen! My apologies…

  42. B Moe says:

    I don’t often agree with wikipedia, but I like this.

    Academic and scholarly definitions of populism vary widely and the term is often employed in loose, inconsistent and undefined ways to denote appeals to ‘the people’, ‘demagogy’ and ‘catch-all’ politics or as a receptacle for new types of parties whose classification is unclear.

    Without seeing it in context, populist is a mostly useless word.  Even in context is often is.  I would disagree with the notion of the Tea Parties as a populist movement by most definitions of the word.

  43. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    I feel optimistic.
    I don’t know why…..i think the good guys are going to win.
    Think about it…Obama is working on HCR–Blue Cross raises premiums 40%…..Obama mentions immigration reform to Scott Brown–Arizona passes a gestapo law that alienates brown people…..Obama is working on FinReg–Goldman-Sachs bankstahs get crucified on CSPAN3…….Obama brings up environmental legislation–a gigantic oil spill spawns right off Americas coast…..kinda makes me wonder.
    :)

  44. newrouter says:

    I feel optimistic.

    have another drink of kool aide bot

  45. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    “I would disagree with the notion of the Tea Parties as a populist movement by most definitions of the word.”

    Oh, me too!
    The Tea Parties are a christian fascist movement.
    I’m writing a book called Christian Fascism…I’m just doing a global replacement on Jonah Goldberg’s crappy book and swapping christian for liberal. Palin for Hitler, DeMint for Stalin, christians for fascists, evangelicals for nazis……you get the picture.
    :)

  46. Mike LaRoche says:

    I feel optimistic that a certain griefer trust-fund baby will be crying into her Kirin Ichiban on the evening of November 2. :)

  47. Mr. W says:

    A populist is a politician who tells you what he thinks you want to hear based on what his pollster told him you wanted to hear. A populist, by definition, cannot be a man of conviction. He can only be a man of opportunity.

    See Bill Clinton.

  48. happyfeet says:

    Tea Parties for reals aren’t a Christian fascist movement you can tell cause of I haven’t had Tea Party episode.

  49. Mike LaRoche says:

    I might believe you if you were smart enough to be able to read Jonah Goldberg.

  50. newrouter says:

    i wonder if he wears a bear suit:

    American Who Recently Visited Pakistan Eyed in Times Square Bomb Plot

    FOXNews.com

    The person is a naturalized American citizen who was in Pakistan for several months and returned to the United States recently, investigative sources told Fox News

    link

  51. happyfeet says:

    *a* Tea Party episode I mean

    jeez I’m supposed to be working this is irresponsible

  52. Mike LaRoche says:

    Nishi is hitting the boxwine early this evening…she’s not even trying to make a cogent argument.

  53. newrouter says:

    Palin for Hitler, DeMint for Stalin, christians for fascists, evangelicals for nazis……you get the picture.

    yes your delusions are demented

  54. Mr. W says:

    Christian Fascism:

    That’s where Aunt Bea tells everyone how to run the bake sale.

  55. newrouter says:

    at least it wasn’t irregardless

  56. happyfeet says:

    Mr. LaRoche nishi is plenty smart enough to mount an interesting critique of the Mr. Goldberg… I do not know what purpose it is to say that she is stupid and not fruit-tasting.

  57. Mike LaRoche says:

    Yep, comparing Palin to Hitler is a mighty interesting critique of Goldberg, I reckon.

  58. cranky-d says:

    I see no nishi here.

  59. happyfeet says:

    Mr. LaRoche sometimes my feeling is that nishi, she couches things in a very provocative way. Maximally provocative, sometimes.

    It is one of her unique gifts.

  60. B Moe says:

    The Tea Parties are a christian fascist movement. I’m writing a book called Christian Fascism…I’m just doing a global replacement on Jonah Goldberg’s crappy book and swapping christian for liberal. Palin for Hitler, DeMint for Stalin, christians for fascists, evangelicals for nazis……you get the picture.

    Yeah, you are babbling complete nonsense.  Everyone gets the picture but happyfeet.

    I am probably going to hate myself for asking, but who is Wilson, FDR and Mussolini down this rabbit hole of yours?

  61. Mr. W says:

    Okay I repeat:

    Nishi said something about Christian Fascism. So then I said,

    Christian Fascism: That’s like when Aunt Bea takes over the bake sale and tells everyone what to do.

    And then I went on to compare what Obama has done with actual Fascism in the case of GM, Wall Street, healthcare, pharmaceutical companies, Chrysler, big oil, little oil, medium oil, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Sallie Mae, student loans, home loans, real estate loans, and the general state of devastation of the American economy.

    The Christians have a lot of catching up to do.

  62. Nigel Tufnel says:

    There is a very fine line between provocative and… stupid, you know?

  63. happyfeet says:

    yes, I know this a lot Mr. Nigel

  64. happyfeet says:

    Thank you for explaining about Aunt Bea.

  65. newrouter says:

    she couches things in a very provocative way

    or stupid take your pick

  66. Darleen says:

    It is one of her unique gifts

    kinda like the gift of genital herpes

  67. Mr. W says:

    I’ve said before that the formative experience of Nishi’s young life was being seduced and abandoned by someone I am guessing was probably her humanities professors student assistant. The same one who introduced her to the joys of communism.

    There she was, a young waif, away from home for the first time, and he, with seven years experience, could always spot the weak ones. It started out with late-night study sessions in his dorm room, a picture of Che looking down approvingly from the wall, but it was all destined to end in tears… And herpes.

  68. happyfeet says:

    No it is not like that at all Darleen unless the genital herpes is mischievous and clever and funny and prone to cast withering aspersions on a Team R what couldn’t be more deserving of withering aspersions.

  69. Mr. W says:

    It’s not that you’re transparent, Nishi. It’s just that you’re easy to see through.

  70. happyfeet says:

    this took me a second

  71. Mr. W says:

    Actually, it’s not that you’re easy to see through, it’s just that you’re a cliché.

    Which is kind of worse, now that I think about it.

  72. Mr. W says:

    Now that I think about it, you are not really so much a cliché as you are simply tedious.

    Which now that I think about it, is about as bad as it gets.

  73. Pablo says:

    No it is not like that at all Darleen unless the genital herpes is mischievous and clever and funny and prone to cast withering aspersions on a Team R what couldn’t be more deserving of withering aspersions.

    Genital herpes is at least as mischievous, clever and funny as nishi. I think it’s apolitical, though.

  74. happyfeet says:

    my intentions, you twists it, Pablo!

  75. newrouter says:

    dexter i think has a problem maybe herpes

  76. Mr. W says:

    Actually, tedious implies a response on the part of the individual that is subjected to your thoughtless Trotskyite ramblings. I have decided that a more accurate label is just plain boring.

    Boring equals Nishi.

  77. Mr. W says:

    What were we talking about?

  78. Darleen says:

    my intentions, you twists it, Pablo!

    good lord, hf, why is it any time Kate Mengele is around you start sounding more like Gollum?

  79. Mr. W says:

    This just in:

    authorities closing in on person of interest in Times Square bombing incident. Man described as naturalized American from Pakistan, who just returned after spending five months there.

    Could he be a tea party affiliate? I just don’t want to disappoint CNN.

  80. Mike LaRoche says:

    Could he be a tea party affiliate?

    He must have been there for the Waziristan Tea Party.

  81. LTC John says:

    “kingslayer” – Ha. Someone who has never slain anyone or anything, and not been within shouting distance of any actual royalty. But go ahead, keep giving it the attention it wants. hf sure will…

  82. […] “The Left loses its way by abandoning 'third way'” […]

  83. happyfeet says:

    nishi could go to any blog she wants but she picks us…

    think about it like that, LTC. Kind of give you chills thinking about the cosmic improbability, huh? The odds, they are incalculable even if you use math.

  84. JD says:

    We are cursed cursed cursed, I tell you.

  85. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    oh wow…….how could i be so wrong?
    the tea partiers aren’t christians……they are judeo-christians!!!!!
    umm….wtf is a judeo-christian?
    can you proteins ‘splain that to me?

    Andrew Breitbart: “I consider myself to be a Judeo-Christian. I fight on that side. I don’t relate to the nihilists on the left. i don’t relate to their world view. I relate to the world view that America has. It’s a distinctly Judeo-Christian one and I think that it works.”

    i hafta ax……Jeff! are you a judeo-christian too? ‘cuz that would totally ‘splain everything to me!

  86. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    i mean..judeo-christian….wow…..that is the perfect bracketing…its like…. jews that vote republican, pre-trib fundamentalist like Palin and Hagee, christofascists like DeMint and Cantor, Zionists like AIPAC, even mormons like Beck and Romney!

  87. JD says:

    Someone shoot that krazy bint with an elephant tranquilizer. Stat.

  88. Mike LaRoche says:

    christofascists like DeMint and Cantor

    You mean that “Christofascist” Eric Cantor, who is Jewish? Your stupidity and bigotry truly knows no bounds, Nishbot.

    You’re little more than a low-rent Patty Hearst.

  89. JD says:

    Don’t insult Patty Hearst like that, Mike. Did you catch above where it was trying to use the words of Russell Kirk to buttress its “argument”, and by argument, I mean psychadelic infused mental instability driven fevered rantings.

  90. bh says:

    This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.

  91. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    They can all be together in the Big Judeo-Christian Tent!
    isn’t that wunnerful?

    feets the original nishizono shinji was an evil psychopathic internet DNA virus that traveled over twisted pair into the eyeballs of genetically prepared “barcoders” (usually joshikousei).
    the barcoder would then become a vector for transmission, as well as possessing the will of the host.

  92. Darleen says:

    wtf is a judeo-christian?
    can you proteins ’splain that to me?

    Psssst, Nishi, here’s the secret…Jesus was a Jew!

  93. JD says:

    It is the language nishit the liar speaks.

  94. Darleen says:

    Hey Kate

    I’m a Zionist.

    I believe in the sovereignty of Israel and that the Israeli’s have the right to a nation and a national identity.

    Kinda like being an Italian in Italy, or a Swede in Sweden, or an American in America.

    Anti-Zionists are antisemites.

    Simple.

  95. JD says:

    It is a complete output-generator. Anything said to it, or about i,t has no practical effect on its next comment.

  96. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    i bet Cantor is a Judeo-Christian too!
    lawl.

    Reaching out to the Muslim world may help in creating an environment for peace in the Middle East, but we must insist as Americans that our policies be firmly grounded in the beliefs of the Judeo-Christian tradition upon which this country was founded.

  97. JD says:

    Kate hates her some Joooooooooooos. Of that there is no doubt.

  98. happyfeet says:

    viruses are very very small to where you can’t even see them unless you have electrons but I understand the genetically prepared part… it’s a lot like in marketing how you match the message to the medium to the target.

  99. Mike LaRoche says:

    Did you catch above where it was trying to use the words of Russell Kirk to buttress its “argument”

    Yes, and that was hilarious. Russell Kirk is far beyond the comprehensive abilities of hare-brained socialist internet trolls.

    This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.

    Via Wikipedia, according to Donald DeFreeze – founder of the SLA – this is the definition:

    In his manifesto “Symbionese Liberation Army Declaration of Revolutionary War & the Symbionese Program,” Donald DeFreeze wrote, “The name ‘symbionese’ is taken from the word ‘symbiosis’ and we define its meaning as a body of dissimilar bodies and organisms living in deep and loving harmony and partnership in the best interest of all within the body.”blockquote

    Far out, man.

  100. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    But that is it! The Secret Identity of the Tea Partiers!
    Like Brietbart and Cantor and Rev. Hagee and Darleen…….they are not just plain ol’ garden variety christians!
    They are Judeo-Christians!

    (w/e the fuck that is)

  101. Mike LaRoche says:

    Seventy years ago, Nishi would have been an upstanding member of the Germanistischer Wissenschafteinsatz.

  102. JD says:

    This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.

    Despite Mike’s educated answer, I still claim that it is the language nishit speaks it.

    Mike – My mother was related to Mr Kirk, and I knew him. I was a child, and really did not understand who I was meeting, at the time.

  103. Darleen says:

    the poor little Kate, the Judenhass, is all confussled about how the Jews and Christians share the Bible.

    Go on Kate, isn’t there a cross-burning you’re missing?

  104. JD says:

    She has been particularly agitated the last couple of weeks. There must have been some incredible amounts of filing she had to do at work, which precipitated the current psychotic break she is on.

  105. Mike LaRoche says:

    Mike – My mother was related to Mr Kirk, and I knew him. I was a child, and really did not understand who I was meeting, at the time.

    That’s cool.

    I have a somewhat more remote connection to Kirk in that one of my undergraduate college professors was a friend of his. It’s amazing how many people Kirk influenced.

  106. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    JD, you keep trying to glue Jews onto your failboat philosophy.
    Most Jews don’t like christians.

    In the United States, the two groups that most ardently support Israel are Jews and evangelical and fundamentalist Christians. Jewish support is easy to explain, but why should certain Christians, most of them politically quite conservative, be so devoted to Israel? There is a second puzzle: despite their support for a Jewish state, evangelical and fundamentalist Christians are disliked by many Jews.

    Not “many”, Drudgey…..most.
    I suppose we are fooling the jews like we liberals fool those poor african-americans and hispanics into thinking conservatives are largly racists, nativists, christofascists, anti-semites and neo-nazis…..and also pre-trib fundies only interested in using Israel as a staked goat to bring on the rapture…..
    nah, that couldn’t be it!

  107. JD says:

    It was shocking to see Frum and nishit invoking him. I guess the lying twat should no longer surprise me, but that one did.

  108. JD says:

    JD, you keep trying to glue Jews onto your failboat philosophy.

    That is a fucking lie, and you are a fucking liar, you lying twat. Evidence please, or admit you fucking lied. That is all.

  109. LTC John says:

    #84 – no, hf, it is like catching a cold – why did that miserable virus end up in my sinuses? That particular TTP has added nothing, except an example of many loathsome things. But, if the inability to convey a clear and rational thought turns you on…go for it.

  110. JD says:

    You could not describe my philosophy if I gave you 50 guesses, you ignorant twit.

  111. LTC John says:

    I shall return to letting the Blackhawks age me prematurely. At least I have some port at hand to ease my pain…

    Oops, as I type this, the go ahead goal with 90 seconds left. Maybe things are looking up?

  112. Mike LaRoche says:

    From an old blog post of mine titled Sigrid’s Dream, or Fear and Loathing in Post-Christian Europe, meet Nishi’s ideological National Socialist doppelganger: Sigrid Hunke.

  113. JD says:

    Nishit the eugenecist twatwaffle – Do you still contend that the Times Square wannabe was a wec teabagger, or are you willing to admit your error?

  114. bh says:

    Go ‘Hawks! Not that I understand the ice soccer with sticks. But, I like the Chicago very much.

  115. LTC John says:

    Ha, and an empty netter… 4-2. Whew.

  116. LTC John says:

    bh, soccer is a “contact” sport – hockey is a “collison” sport – no comparison!

  117. bh says:

    See, told you I didn’t understand it, John.

  118. happyfeet says:

    Mr. LTC our TTP is… omg scary right about many things … she’s like an oracle maybe or a prophet

  119. happyfeet says:

    ohnoes we lost Adam

  120. bh says:

    Here’s a fun little exercise, ‘feets. Take nishi’s comments. Break them down into thesis statements. Roughly a quarter will be silly insults. Disregard them.

    From the remaining statements keep track of what turns out to be right and what turns out to be wrong. You’ll find she’s an oracle the way all oracles are. You remember when she’s right and forget when she’s wrong.

    (To be utterly honest and transparent here, if you did that with me, I’d be doing only slightly better than nishi, hopefully!, but I’d still be no oracle. I’d be just another guy trying to predict complex systems into the future. That is, poorly.)

  121. bh says:

    (I know you’re joking around with “oracle”. However, many times you’ve expressed that you think she’s in the money with all sorts of predictions.)

  122. bh says:

    (I love parenthesis.)

  123. happyfeet says:

    she’s right enough to be worth a listen…

    it’s… the frames she picks tend to be ones that hold and when they’re not they tend to be frames that are genuinely insidious and dangerous…

    will the Tea Party begin to take on an evangelical patina?

    Doubt it. But she’s absolutely right it would be fatal.

  124. JD says:

    She was practically Nostradamus in predicting that Barcky would beat McCain. happyfeet – you know I love you, but nishit is about as vile and insidious of a human virus as I have ever encountered.

  125. sdferr says:

    Harvey Mansfield is more worth a listen, by far.

  126. bh says:

    it’s… the frames she picks tend to be ones that hold and when they’re not they tend to be frames that are genuinely insidious and dangerous…

    I’ll think about that.

  127. Mike LaRoche says:

    The only two things in life that make it worth livin’, are guitars that tune good and firm feelin’ women…

  128. bh says:

    Guitars that tune good, firm feelin’ women… and Harvey Mansfield.

  129. happyfeet says:

    cupcakes!

  130. bh says:

    Otters!

  131. bh says:

    Okay, thought about it, she’s still too much noise for that little bit of signal. I read and speak with others for that function.

    If she decided to post as Kate, that’d be a different thing. Maybe a good different thing.

    Yet, to talk about her like she’s multi-self, that kinda says it all, doesn’t it?

  132. bh says:

    Here is a documentary recommendation. There is a surprise. It is twisty.

  133. J. "Trashman" Peden says:

    “107.Comment by Nishi the Kingslayer on 5/3 @ 9:23 pm”

    See, Nishi, when you take the easy route and simply “repeat a written word-form”, you end up making no sense beyond those elements which fit into your own infantile fantasyworld – though some of the statements therein do function to gratify you at a certain emotive level, raw hate, which is easily seen to be your sole motive for presenting them.

    But since, especially for you, it would take work to understand what I just said, I know you can’t possibly understand what i just said.

    Carry on.

  134. bh says:

    Twice today I’ve made comments that could read as double entendres but shouldn’t. My apologies.

  135. Tommy the Cat says:

    Think I understand her now. Is this right?

  136. happyfeet says:

    no worries that looks interesting

  137. sdferr says:

    Hello mr pakistani car bomber fellow, where do you think you’re going?

  138. SporkLift Driver says:

    Since this has turned in to a thread about everyone’s favorite griefer, some observations.

    I’ve read at least a bit and in some cases a lot of many of the authors she mentions. In many cases they had nothing worthwhile to say so I didn’t read much, in the cases where I’ve read a lot I can say that she doesn’t get them. Not. One. Bit.

    As for her “brilliant” observations. When I first started taking notice of politics I encountered a couple of highly intelligent observations from a certain politician. I looked for more quotes and after the first couple I found I was hooked, utterly fascinated, I couldn’t stop. Ultimately I collected dozens of the most thunderingly stupid, pig ignorant utterances in the history of politicians propounding on topics they know nothing about. That politician was Al Gore. Random chance or perhaps a tendency on my part to ignore the tailings and see the diamonds had caused me to pick up on these two quotes that made some sense. After that I realized he was randomly plugging technical words into the right slots in a sentence structure to make something that sounded “sciencey” and that having the sentence actually be correct as to facts was purely a matter of chance. Our little griefer employs exactly the same strategy and if something profound comes out she didn’t really mean it.

  139. Danger says:

    SLD,

    Yeah, Nishi is the model broken clock. Aren’t we lucky that shares her prophesies here.

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  141. B Moe says:

    will the Tea Party begin to take on an evangelical patina?

    Doubt it. But she’s absolutely right it would be fatal.

    Which is exactly why her and every other enemy of freedom is trying to paint the Tea Party as exactly that.  Self fulfilling prophesies don’t require oracles, or pundits not only too stupid to understand the concept of  Judeo-Christian , but who wear their ignorance like a badge of  honor.

  142. arthur dent says:

    Bustos seems Spanish for Frum, that’s the way it looks to me

  143. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    The tea party already has a patina of WECs. In 2008 WECs comprised 50% of the GOP in election exit polling.
    And you are superclueless if you think the tea party is comprised of anything but republicans and republican leaning indies.
    Again, my hypothesis is that tea party attendees would selfdeclare as nearly 100% selfdescribed christian.
    The tea party is 1% jews in national polling…..but those jews don’t go to the rallies.
    the rallies selfselect for enthusiasm.
    Since no one postulates a definition, I will say I suspect “judeo-christian” is a religio-political alliance of conveniance where christians try to coopt jewish demographics and zionist sympathy and holocaust guilt to support a common cause of “taking back America” from that black guy. Even though Jews don’t believe in christ-the-godhead and christians have to express a belief in christ-the-godhead to be christians…..
    judeo-christian as a religion (like Breitbarts useage of it) is a total oxymoron….so judeo-christian is just a schizophrenic political marriage of convenience.
    ;)

  144. Slartibartfast says:

    If she decided to post as Kate, that’d be a different thing.

    Is her name actually Kate? If so, how do you know?

  145. Slartibartfast says:

    Since no one postulates a definition

    Oh. No readee teh linkee, eh?

  146. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    Alternatively…..I guess judeo-christian is a word without cognitive meaning….an empty emotional slogan.
    i can’t make sense of it.
    Breitbart uses it as a religious identity…..i think it is a political identity if anything.

  147. Slartibartfast says:

    i can’t make sense of it

    Despite being given the sense of it.

    And you wonder why no one here respects you?

  148. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    i read the link.
    It doesn’t make sense as a religion, and that is how Breitbart uses it in context.
    the core liturgy of the two religions is non-reconcilable ….either the messiah was the christ or we are still waiting for the messiah…its binary.
    two completely opposite things.

  149. arthur dent says:

    One stems from the former Kate, whereas Islam comes across as the late comer, and tries to revise the whole book. And Sufi’s are far from representative of the latter, Hambali/Salafi seem to be the primary
    current

  150. Slartibartfast says:

    Breitbart uses it as a religious identity

    No, he didn’t. Read again.

  151. JD says:

    i can’t make sense of it.

    One of the few honest statements the genocidal eugenecist has ever uttered. The term Judeo-Christian is not new, was not coined by Breitbart, and this lying twat has to be intentionally obtuse to act like she has never heard this term before.

  152. bh says:

    If she decided to post as Kate, that’d be a different thing.

    Is her name actually Kate? If so, how do you know?

    Oh, I don’t know. Just hear Kate from time to time and it sounds like a name name.

  153. JD says:

    Anyone read the Tapper piece where Barcky is quote calling people teabaggers?

  154. B Moe says:

    She has referred to herself as Kate in comments before, as in “my father once said to me, “Kate…blah, blah, blah””

  155. J. "Trashman" Peden says:

    Attn. all fellow X-flock Teabaggers, for today we shall not wander aimlessly!

    I just noticed that Jimmy Bakker is on tv even as we speak, so once he issues his Holy Orders for the day, I’ll post them here!

    -As always, Tammy Faye, RIP.

  156. B Moe says:

    i read the link. It doesn’t make sense as a religion, and that is how Breitbart uses it in context.

    No, term is used to refer to the primarily secular aspects shared by both religions, which have shaped the culture, and the morality, ethics and legal system of the western world. 

    Believing, or not, in the divinity of Christ doesn’t negate the influence of the Ten Commandments.  I am agnostic leaning toward atheism, but I still would consider the Bible one of the primary influences in my life.  That is because I am a product of a Judeo-Christian culture.

  157. JD says:

    BMoe – Evo culture has left you evolutionary deadenders behind lulz !

  158. JD says:

    Thanks, bh. Classic Barcky. Classy. Very presidential.

  159. sdferr says:

    A President ought to be glad to criticize and insult his electorate from time to time, though the electorate may want to consider charging him for the privilege: like requiring him to unzip himself and wave his dick at the cameras in public or some other thing designed to embarrass.

  160. B Moe says:

    From a comment by “progressive mama” at bh’s link:

    I’ve thought for a long time the average American is getting increassingly stupid– our average IQ is below average…

  161. bh says:

    Hehs all around.

  162. Pablo says:

    She has referred to herself as Kate in comments before, as in “my father once said to me, “Kate…blah, blah, blah””

    “Git off me, Kate, yer crushin mah smokes!”

  163. JD says:

    Has Kate Mengele acknowledged that her attempts to blame the teabaggers was vile and reprehensible, and wrong wrong wrong?

    sdferr – Actually, all it would take is for him to open his mouth ;-)

  164. sdferr says:

    Indian Prime Minister, glancing at CNN and overheard in aside to aide: “What! What’s he doing there Raghuvar? Whatever it is, it must be awfully cold today.”

    Minister’s Aide: “He must have been seized with a sudden desire to berate his people, Minister. This is done in fulfillment of one of their quirky customs. And yes, quite cold.”

  165. JD says:

    Daddy – “Kate, you pig ignert spoiled wench, clean your room and take your meds. NOW!”

  166. Slartibartfast says:

    I’ve thought for a long time the average American is getting increassingly stupid– our average IQ is below average

    That had to have been nishi. She’s always betraying ignorance of how IQ works in pretty much that same way.

  167. bh says:

    President Reagan had a sign on his desk that said, “It’s amazing how much you can accomplish if you don’t care who gets the credit.” If President Obama had a sign, it would say, “It’s amazing how much you can accomplish if you don’t care what the public thinks.”*

  168. bh says:

    OT: Here‘s a short Kaplan post I’m very sympathetic towards regarding immigration and our aging population. Standard caveat regarding illegal vs legal immigration applies.

  169. JD says:

    bh – Your link @ 170 is what I have long feared. It is a great strategic move, as it would put the next Congress on the defensive, having to repeal or amend crap laws, and still having to contend with the dirty little socialist veto.

  170. JD says:

    bh – The idea of this crap passing in a lame-duck session is even more noxious.

  171. sdferr says:

    But once immigrants arrive here, few of them want to settle for a welfare check; they want to earn some real money.

    They soon learn there’s a problem though, what with Barack Obama standing in their path, his hands firmly gripped around business’ neck choking the economy to death.

  172. geoffb says:

    JD,

    I fully expect them to exceed “ramming speed” and go for Warp 9 from November 2010 to January 2011 if they lose in November. There will then be nuttin’ to lose.

  173. JD says:

    geoffb – If they think people are pissed off now, just imagine what it will be like if they try that.

  174. geoffb says:

    And I now see that was Barnes conclusion. My only solace is I’ve said it long ago.

  175. sdferr says:

    It’s hard to have to rely on the likes of Collins, Snowe, Graham, Lugar and the rest as the final arbiters of the health of American legislative adventure, ain’t it?

  176. JD says:

    Off-topic … but I thought it was funny that CNN was trying to blame the attempted Times Square bombing on his house being foreclosed, while it was being reported elsewhere, at the same time, that at least 1, and possibly as many as 8 were in the process of being arrested in Pakistan.

  177. JD says:

    I look forward to the chance to vote against Lugar in a primary, sdferr.

  178. sdferr says:

    One of these days the jihadi’s will tire of being misrepresented by the CNN’s of the world and will start parking their car-bombs outside the headquarters of such organizations, with concomitant demands appended insisting their religion be granted due respect as the source of their angry murder sprees.

  179. JD says:

    Now, sdferr, that is just plain not nice.

    One of my friends is in a Congressional primary today here locally.

  180. bh says:

    Yeah, guys, I’m starting to come around to this position myself. On the plus side, as they continue to drop the pretense of political success, there has to be a few in their caucus who aren’t down with a suicide mission.

    True enough, sdferr. About the economy strangling. Which, really, is the worst possible scenario at this time. We need lots of new workers but their policies kill the very growth required to create those new jobs. Lose lose. (Not to even mention the huge internal backlog of people we need to get back to work just to return to the old status quo that was already unsustainable in the mid-term anyways.)

  181. bh says:

    Luckily Europe looks healthy and China shows no signs of overcapacity. That would convince me there might be problems ahead.

    What? Oh…

  182. JD says:

    There has been an uptick in comment spam the last couple days, no?

  183. sdferr says:

    And it’s equally interesting what sort of villain gets the administration’s attention: “At the same time, they’ve identified a villain — BP — with Interior Secretary Ken Salazar saying he’d keep a ‘boot on the neck’ of the company to ensure it would pay for and toil over a cleanup of historic proportions.” An exasperated reader emails me: “Will we hear Robert Gibbs say, ‘ We will keep the boot on the neck of the Iranian nuclear program’”? Uh, no

  184. sdferr says:

    Anybody heard what the replacement cost for that lost rig is?

  185. geoffb says:

    Salazar saying he’d keep a ‘boot on the neck’ of the company

    Would that be a “jack-boot” or is that not a term that is allowed during times of Democratic Party rule.

  186. bh says:

    Related, Cameron (CAM) and Transocean (RIG).

  187. B Moe says:

    But once immigrants arrive here, few of them want to settle for a welfare check; they want to earn some real money.

    Coming from the third world, a welfare check is very real.  When unlimited immigration leads to a huge glut of labor and no jobs are available, that welfare check is still far, far more than the prospects they left behind.

  188. bh says:

    Perhaps relevant to Jeff’s theme, BP spends a shit-ton of money on green goodwill. Yet, they’re still now the face of bad dirty oil.

  189. JD says:

    bh – Also interesting is that Teh One was the biggest recipient of BP’s financial largesse in political contributions. But, it is important that we stand on their neck, because they are evil.

    Anyone care to speculate how high gas prices will go this summer?

  190. Dread Cthulhu says:

    @Darlene — it is no different than his foreign policy — coddling enemies whilst denigrating and insulting allies.

    Barring some other disaster, thet’re talking 3.13 to 3.25.

  191. bh says:

    Anybody heard what the replacement cost for that lost rig is?

    Note, this isn’t the replacement cost:

    Total value of the rig is approximately $560 million.*

  192. bh says:

    Anyone care to speculate how high gas prices will go this summer?

    Funny, you sound like my boss.

  193. JD says:

    I am not your boss ;-) Given that I put over 40,000 miles year on my car, gas prices are something I follow closely.

  194. bh says:

    Well, as a non-boss thumbnail answer, if you take last year’s oil price and this year’s, the increase would work out to around $3.00 a gallon. Seems reasonable given a fairly stable refinery outlook. Occasional spikes around $3.20?

    (Caveat, I could be totally wrong.)

  195. bh says:

    Just checked, JD, EIA says average around $2.92.

  196. VekTor says:

    Comment by dicentra on 5/3 @ 4:06 pm (re Clinton’s election):
    Please. Ross Perot won those elections for him.

    Continuing to repeat this urban legend does not make it more true. The facts of the matter are that Perot made no meaningful difference in the outcome of the Clinton elections. Exit polling showed that, of those who would not have stayed home if Perot hadn’t run, the remaining voters expressed an almost perfectly equal split… meaning that they all nullified each other.

    Perot did not in any way, shape, or meaningful form change any electoral outcome. Please stop propagating the false meme that he did.

  197. Dread Cthulhu says:

    bh “Just checked, JD, EIA says average around $2.92.”

    That’s now… what price increase has the futures market built in? It usu. takes a couple weeks to flow through the commodities pits…

  198. bh says:

    Dread, here you go.

    Thumbnail again, that’d put us around $3.00.

  199. Makewi says:

    In nishi’s world Jesus is the switchblade wielding leader of the WEC gang and he’s looking to cut a bitch. Better watch out nishi, Jesus’ll get ya.

  200. bh says:

    Oh, I misinterpreted that, Dread. I’m pretty sure EIB looks at futures contracts. The $2.92 is actually their prediction of the summer average price. That is to say, we’re at their predicted summer price already. Their next report comes out in around a week and they’ll adjust I assume.

    I’m just bumping it up based on the recent Gulf news. Just like the futures markets did. However, this isn’t really that big a deal as far as total supply goes. And, the futures are now pulling back accordingly.

  201. bh says:

    EIA, not EIB.

  202. Dread Cthulhu says:

    Means my guessitmates were ball-park, locally adjusted — I live in a high-tax, high transportation cost area.

  203. B Moe says:

    Comment by VekTor on 5/4 @ 11:33 am

    Comment by dicentra on 5/3 @ 4:06 pm (re Clinton’s election):

    Please. Ross Perot won those elections for him.

    Continuing to repeat this urban legend does not make it more true. The facts of the matter are that Perot made no meaningful difference in the outcome of the Clinton elections. Exit polling showed that….

    Bwhahahahahahahahaha!

  204. Jeff G. says:

    Yes, antidote, not anecdote.

    Had to run out yesterday and collect a sick kid from school. Never revisited the post nor bothered to proofread.

    Guess that makes me unfit to speak or write about language.

  205. sdferr says:

    So little does the GOP get it though, I’d almost settle for at an occasional story demonstrating the value of the propositions held. It could eventually be mistaken for their grasp of the principles, even.

  206. Nishi the Kingslayer says:

    Nah…you’re still ichiban ….on your side.

    here feets……. this is war

  207. Mike LaRoche says:

    So now the griefer trust-fund baby is pining away for a “revolution”? Haha, believe me honey, war is the last thing you want.

  208. Weds. morning links…

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  209. Danger says:

    “I fully expect them to exceed “ramming speed” and go for Warp 9 from November 2010 to January 2011 if they lose in November. There will then be nuttin’ to lose.”

    Geoffb,

    At least Thanksgiving and Christmas are strategically placed to limit the offensive. I would expect liberal use of filibusters and denials of unanimous consent as well.

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