Left parties are in trouble in the Anglosphere. Here in America Democrats are doing worse in the polls than at any time in the last 50 years. In Britain the Labor party is on the brink of finishing third, behind both Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, in the election next Thursday.
[…]
[…] Barack Obama and Blair’s successor, Gordon Brown, head governments that are running budget deficits of 10 percent of gross domestic product. Both are promoting higher taxes and expansion of government programs.
The financial crisis is one reason for the large deficits. But it is undeniable that to varying extents both Obama and Brown have pursued more statist policies than their predecessors did a dozen years ago.
And it is undeniable too that both are in trouble with the voters.
In these circumstances it is surprising that the pundit class is not chiding Obama and Brown for abandoning the politically successful policies of Clinton and Blair. The same pundit class is always ready to chide American Republicans and British Conservatives for not pursuing the courses that Rockefeller Republicans and pre-Thatcher “wet” Conservatives pursued with some political success a much longer time ago.
Rocky and the wets supported a continuing expansion of government and maintaining the power of labor unions. But a British party last won an election on that platform in 1974, 36 years ago, and no American president has been elected on such a platform between 1964 and 2008. And with Democrats plunging in the polls, Obama’s election is beginning to look like an exception that proves the rule.
Americans may have voted for “hope and change,” but not in the form of the 2009 stimulus package and the 2010 health care bill.
Looking back in history, the Rockefeller Republicans chose their course because they believed their party could not beat New Deal Democrats except by moving some distance toward their philosophy. And in particular they believed they could not beat Democrats in New York, which in the first half of the 20th century was both the nation’s largest state and one of the politically most marginal.
But by the early 1960s New York was no longer the nation’s largest state and was safely Democratic. And by the early 1970s Americans were no longer voting for big government. The Rockefeller strategy was rendered obsolete.
It’s not clear that the Clinton New Democratic strategy is similarly obsolete. Clinton calculated that Democrats could not win except by making inroads in the South and by making big gains in the suburbs. That’s how he won twice, and Obama improved on his leads in the suburbs and carried three Southern states with Northern-accented suburbs (Virginia, North Carolina and Florida).
But Obama ran well behind in eight Southern-accented and Mountain states that Clinton carried in 1992. And polling now shows Democrats weaker than Obama was in 2008 virtually everywhere except in university towns and the affluent precincts of metro New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco.
[my emphasis]
If this is the case, the great demographic shift that some progressives keep touting seems to be concentrating itself in very specific regions, and so will be less of a force in electoral college voting than these same progressives surmise.
Which, I guess, is what you get when you stand for elitist gentrification disguised in the garb of championing “social justice.”
But I digress.
Similarly, in Britain polling has shown Brown’s Labor party holding its traditional redoubts in declining industrial towns but getting shellacked in the affluent suburbs where Blair’s New Labor thrived.
The left parties have reacted to their unpopularity by playing the race card. Democrats have tried to portray Tea Partiers as racist and Brown called a lifelong Labor voter who questioned his policies a “bigoted woman.”
Blaming the voters is the last resort of a party in trouble. Old Labor and the Obama Democrats may not yet be finished. But they’re not doing as well as their “third way” predecessors.
Unfortunately, the GOP takeaway from all this seems to be that they themselves can capture that “third way vote” — which has the practical effect of moving Republicans ideological toward 90s Democrats, in an ever increasing lurch leftward in search of votes.
This is is dubious move, both electorally and certainly from the standpoint of party principles, which as they become increasingly statist (McCain, after all, was nothing if not a “conservative” statist) close certain gaps between what it means to be “liberal” and what it means to be “conservative” in the US — with the current usage of “liberal” better describing the New Left than anything resembling classical liberalism.
The GOP, in other words, seems to believe it can gain power by remaining socially conservative in many areas, while promising to govern in other areas in a way that is consonant with the big government ambitions of progressives. That is, they continue to run as “Democrat light” when it comes to government scope — while often highlighting only the “social conservative” part of conservatism as a sop to what they believe is their base.
In doing so, they will continue to give us Romneys and McCains on one hand and Huckabees on the other — without ever really giving us the kind of candidate that best sells conservative / classical liberal principles.
The Tea partiers, for all that they’ve been demonized on both the left and, counterintuitively, in certain circles on the right given to sneering, are nevertheless creating the conditions where a challenge to prevailing GOP wisdom is forthcoming: fiscal and legal conservatism are being highlighted, and as a result now stand in sharp relief to both the progressivism the Obama administration and a leftist Congress has foisted on us and the GOP-flavored attempt to recapture electoral lightning in a bottle by recreating Clinton’s third way, with Republicans now the party of “we feel your pain.”
Some in the GOP seem to sense the shift. But the party leadership itself seems determined to continue its pander to what it seems certain are the big government desires of the vast middle of the electorate.
Me, I’d like to see the GOP seize this opportunity of nearly unprecedented Democrat declines in approval and popularity to push actual conservatism as an antidote. Doing so will tell the American electorate that the GOP is serious about more than just getting elected — that they will offer a real alternative to the excesses of big government that both parties have embraced, and that has led to the very economic and social breakdowns we are now undergoing.
But, politics being what it is, I won’t hold my breath.
1) Ignore the bullshit.
2) It’s all bullshit.
“Some in the GOP seem to sense the shift.”
Some, I continue to hold out hope, have arrived where we are by taking the self-same path we have taken. There aren’t many such visible, I’ll warrant (Paul Ryan, for instance, seems one), but there are a few, and I’d wager, many others who simply haven’t stepped into the spotlight.
Let’s hope so sdferr.
Mojo —
What does “it’s” refer to?
This morning a BBC interview with William Hague of the Conservative party was aired on NPR. Amazingly, Hague is openly advocating a resurgence of British influence around the world in politics and education, presumably so as to create new allies and greater homeland security. The transcript doesn’t seem to be online yet.
Hearing this on the car radio, I almost drove in the ditch.
I’m not assuming that the current GOP leadership will get it’s head out of it’s collective keister. All the GOP has to do to look like it’s winning (and thus think itself a successful brand) is merely not suck as bad as the Democrats. They’re conservative only as far as being a muted opposition to the worst of the Democrat big government shennanigans. That’s it. John McCain IS the current GOP standard of conservatism.
Until the current GOP leadership gets the boot, or gets a boot up it’s ass, they’ll be more than happy to ride the current anti-Democrat status quo until they loose another election cycle. It’s the Republican’s election to loose and they just might be up to the task.
Yeah, that appears to be the appropriate response. I always loose control of the vehicle when my jaw drops into my lap. It’s quite painful on the boys.
I’m with Kresh. I’ll believe a shift to smaller government and less interference in my life initiated by the GOP when I see it. Until then, I hold little hope. I mean, how long did it take for many ‘Pubs to start walking back repealing Obamacare in its entirety in favor keeping the–quote–good–unquote parts.
Oy.
The GOP, in other words, seems to believe it can gain power by remaining socially conservative in many areas, while promising to govern in other areas in a way that is consonant with the big government ambitions of progressive.
This is very much the ideology of the present "Conservative" Party, under its statist leader Dave Cameron, who has gone to great lengths to underline how much he disagreed with Thatcher’s conservatism/Austrian school economics. There is nothing conservative about the party anymore. The ironically named Liberal Democrats look like beating Labour into third place – this is the party that The Guardian has endorsed, for heaven’s sake, abandoning the Labour Party for only the third time in its history. The Lib Dems have an unfortunate habit of tolerating party apparatchiks who see the heavy hand of "the Jewish lobby" everywhere; their leader Nick Clegg previously called on PM Gordon Brown to "… also halt Britain’s arms exports to Israel, and persuade our EU counterparts to do the same".*
Such is Henry Ford’s choice for the British electorate this Thursday: any colour you want, as long as it’s red. I’m a wee bit disillusioned.
The weakness is that conservative, small government policies seldom give a politician a sheaf of “accomplishments” to run for re-election upon…
Too many politicians and nary a statesman in sight.
Dread, I look at Thatcher’s accomplishments, and would vote for more of the same in a heartbeat. But, to take your point, I doubt if a quarter of the UK electorate share my preferences.
“I doubt if a quarter of the UK electorate share my preferences.”
Then they will pay dearly for theirs, to their chagrin in future.
As long as nanny’s teat is there to suckle, there will be no complaints. Once the milk dries up – why, then you can call us Greeks.
Whoever leads the next UK government will be forced, by the IMF if nothing else, to wean the people off the government tit. They will then, in the time honoured fashion of democracies everywhere, be thrown out and consigned to the wilderness for a generation for their troubles.
By then, the next bunch of statists will have “run out of other people’s money” and the cycle can start again. This fact explains why the labour party selected such a useless idiot as Gordoom, first as Chancellor and then as Prime Minister. They are desperate to lose this time. It might also explain the phenomenon that is Dave. It’s either that, or the long march has reached the tory party.
It it really surprise buttseks when the collapse has been predicted for years?
Just askin’.
It it really surprise buttseks when the collapse has been predicted for years?
Just askin’.
Nobody likes a Cassandra, Kresh. As Kevin B points out, it ain’t a vote winner. "Vote for me! I’ll cut your benefit!"
SW,
I don’t know, with the current mood of the electorate, they may just understand everyone needs to feel some pain.
I think the problem will be that too many fiscal conservatives will run in 2012, not that none will run. The multiple conservative candidates will split the conservative vote, and the social conservative or overall moderate will win the primary and lose the general to a weak Obama.
I’m thinking of Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Bobby Jindahl, to name a few. And they will all have their supporters, which will split the fiscal conservative vote.
Not a chance, Blake:
But in an interview on the Andrew Marr Show on BBC1, Cameron reassured wavering voters that he would match Labour’s pledge to protect frontline services.
"What I can tell you is any cabinet minister, if I win the election, who comes to me and says: ‘Here are my plans’ and they involve frontline reductions, they’ll be sent straight back to their department to go away and think again," he said.
“push actual conservatism as an anecdote.”
but you don’t HAVE actual conservatism…..and don’t you mean antidote, Mr. Language?
all you have is a populist grievance movement.
Read Meh.
IGNORE THE TTP! Thatisall.
I wonder how long it will take the Nishbot to get banned at FrumForum.
Russell Kirk is rolling over in his fucking grave that Frum and Nishit the genocidal lying cunt would quote him.
The sad part is, fiscal responsibility is really simple and its a message that will resonate with the electorate. Lower taxes and less spending should be a good thing. But I’m convinced the pork machine that keeps most dems (and some repubs) getting re-elected is the primary objection to any reduction in spending- if you can’t bribe your constitutents to vote for you and must rely on your own merit and character? Well, I can see how that would be a bit scary for democrats.
Seriously? David Frum? That’s your best shot. How exactly has anyone who reads this site given any indication that we give a flying crap what Frum has to say.
“Me, I’d like to see the GOP seize this opportunity of nearly unprecedented Democrat declines in approval and popularity to push actual conservatism as an anecdote. Doing so will tell the American electorate that the GOP is serious about more than just getting elected — that they will offer a real alternative to the excesses of big government that both parties have embraced, and that has led to the very economic and social breakdowns we are now undergoing.”
Hope and change? You decide:
“Christie announced today he is removing Justice John E. Wallace and nominating Morris County lawyer Anne Murray Patterson to the seat.
Wallace, 68, is the only black justice on court and is the first member of the court not to be reappointed after an initial seven-year term.”
It seems the N.J. Gov has answered the calling whilst displaying brass loaded pants.
Volley launched, target destroyed!
G’night all,
Keep firing!!!!
Cool, way cool. Hitting back rarely looks so good.
The left has lost its way in every way.
What kind of heartless fucking bastards steal food from two year olds?
I’m sure HHS will be doing the same thing here shortly, B Moe.
Oh, and Clinton didn’t win merely because his “Third Way” was awesome. There was a relatively well-financed third party in those elections who might have influenced the outcome.
That’s how he won twice
Please. Ross Perot won those elections for him.
I don’t really have anything to say on this particular thread I just wanted to try out my new voice activation software. This may be the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen. I just speak and it writes it on the page, it’s really rather remarkable. And it smells a lot better than I do. I mean it smells a lot better than I do. Make that spells. Well it’s not perfect is it. But damn.
Which is precisely why the progressives have been trying to abolish or circumvent the damn thing for years. Remember the Copperhead attempt to pass state laws requiring their electors to vote for the nationwide popular vote winner? Kind of takes the Electoral College out of the picture.
The abolition of the Democratic Party will occur at the exact same time as absentee voting, early voting, and voting without a drivers license are abolished.
It is estimated that in some areas up to 25% of the Democrat party vote count is fraudulent. In the upcoming, I frankly do not see how they can manufacture the number of votes they will need to overcome the popular discontent.
But his history shown us they may not work hard at much, but they knock themselves out for that vote fraud.
That isn’t Frum, its Andrew Murphy.
hmmm….hey language-boi, what do YOU think Kirk intended?
There prevails at Protein Wisdom an understanding that Nishi has the intelligence quotient of a pomegranate.
its still frumpy
Nishi has the intelligence quotient of a pomegranate
Hey, stop that! Pomegranates are useful and tasty!
Haha, indeed Darleen! My apologies…
I don’t often agree with wikipedia, but I like this.
Without seeing it in context, populist is a mostly useless word. Even in context is often is. I would disagree with the notion of the Tea Parties as a populist movement by most definitions of the word.
I feel optimistic.
I don’t know why…..i think the good guys are going to win.
Think about it…Obama is working on HCR–Blue Cross raises premiums 40%…..Obama mentions immigration reform to Scott Brown–Arizona passes a gestapo law that alienates brown people…..Obama is working on FinReg–Goldman-Sachs bankstahs get crucified on CSPAN3…….Obama brings up environmental legislation–a gigantic oil spill spawns right off Americas coast…..kinda makes me wonder.
:)
have another drink of kool aide bot
“I would disagree with the notion of the Tea Parties as a populist movement by most definitions of the word.”
Oh, me too!
The Tea Parties are a christian fascist movement.
I’m writing a book called Christian Fascism…I’m just doing a global replacement on Jonah Goldberg’s crappy book and swapping christian for liberal. Palin for Hitler, DeMint for Stalin, christians for fascists, evangelicals for nazis……you get the picture.
:)
I feel optimistic that a certain griefer trust-fund baby will be crying into her Kirin Ichiban on the evening of November 2. :)
A populist is a politician who tells you what he thinks you want to hear based on what his pollster told him you wanted to hear. A populist, by definition, cannot be a man of conviction. He can only be a man of opportunity.
See Bill Clinton.
Tea Parties for reals aren’t a Christian fascist movement you can tell cause of I haven’t had Tea Party episode.
I might believe you if you were smart enough to be able to read Jonah Goldberg.
i wonder if he wears a bear suit:
link
*a* Tea Party episode I mean
jeez I’m supposed to be working this is irresponsible
Nishi is hitting the boxwine early this evening…she’s not even trying to make a cogent argument.
yes your delusions are demented
Christian Fascism:
That’s where Aunt Bea tells everyone how to run the bake sale.
at least it wasn’t irregardless
Mr. LaRoche nishi is plenty smart enough to mount an interesting critique of the Mr. Goldberg… I do not know what purpose it is to say that she is stupid and not fruit-tasting.
Yep, comparing Palin to Hitler is a mighty interesting critique of Goldberg, I reckon.
I see no nishi here.
Mr. LaRoche sometimes my feeling is that nishi, she couches things in a very provocative way. Maximally provocative, sometimes.
It is one of her unique gifts.
Yeah, you are babbling complete nonsense. Everyone gets the picture but happyfeet.
I am probably going to hate myself for asking, but who is Wilson, FDR and Mussolini down this rabbit hole of yours?
Okay I repeat:
Nishi said something about Christian Fascism. So then I said,
Christian Fascism: That’s like when Aunt Bea takes over the bake sale and tells everyone what to do.
And then I went on to compare what Obama has done with actual Fascism in the case of GM, Wall Street, healthcare, pharmaceutical companies, Chrysler, big oil, little oil, medium oil, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Sallie Mae, student loans, home loans, real estate loans, and the general state of devastation of the American economy.
The Christians have a lot of catching up to do.
There is a very fine line between provocative and… stupid, you know?
yes, I know this a lot Mr. Nigel
Thank you for explaining about Aunt Bea.
or stupid take your pick
It is one of her unique gifts
kinda like the gift of genital herpes
I’ve said before that the formative experience of Nishi’s young life was being seduced and abandoned by someone I am guessing was probably her humanities professors student assistant. The same one who introduced her to the joys of communism.
There she was, a young waif, away from home for the first time, and he, with seven years experience, could always spot the weak ones. It started out with late-night study sessions in his dorm room, a picture of Che looking down approvingly from the wall, but it was all destined to end in tears… And herpes.
No it is not like that at all Darleen unless the genital herpes is mischievous and clever and funny and prone to cast withering aspersions on a Team R what couldn’t be more deserving of withering aspersions.
It’s not that you’re transparent, Nishi. It’s just that you’re easy to see through.
this took me a second
Actually, it’s not that you’re easy to see through, it’s just that you’re a cliché.
Which is kind of worse, now that I think about it.
Now that I think about it, you are not really so much a cliché as you are simply tedious.
Which now that I think about it, is about as bad as it gets.
Genital herpes is at least as mischievous, clever and funny as nishi. I think it’s apolitical, though.
my intentions, you twists it, Pablo!
dexter i think has a problem maybe herpes
Actually, tedious implies a response on the part of the individual that is subjected to your thoughtless Trotskyite ramblings. I have decided that a more accurate label is just plain boring.
Boring equals Nishi.
What were we talking about?
my intentions, you twists it, Pablo!
good lord, hf, why is it any time Kate Mengele is around you start sounding more like Gollum?
This just in:
authorities closing in on person of interest in Times Square bombing incident. Man described as naturalized American from Pakistan, who just returned after spending five months there.
Could he be a tea party affiliate? I just don’t want to disappoint CNN.
Could he be a tea party affiliate?
He must have been there for the Waziristan Tea Party.
[…] “The Left loses its way by abandoning 'third way'” […]
“kingslayer” – Ha. Someone who has never slain anyone or anything, and not been within shouting distance of any actual royalty. But go ahead, keep giving it the attention it wants. hf sure will…
[…] “The Left loses its way by abandoning 'third way'” […]
nishi could go to any blog she wants but she picks us…
think about it like that, LTC. Kind of give you chills thinking about the cosmic improbability, huh? The odds, they are incalculable even if you use math.
We are cursed cursed cursed, I tell you.
oh wow…….how could i be so wrong?
the tea partiers aren’t christians……they are judeo-christians!!!!!
umm….wtf is a judeo-christian?
can you proteins ‘splain that to me?
i hafta ax……Jeff! are you a judeo-christian too? ‘cuz that would totally ‘splain everything to me!
i mean..judeo-christian….wow…..that is the perfect bracketing…its like…. jews that vote republican, pre-trib fundamentalist like Palin and Hagee, christofascists like DeMint and Cantor, Zionists like AIPAC, even mormons like Beck and Romney!
Someone shoot that krazy bint with an elephant tranquilizer. Stat.
christofascists like DeMint and Cantor
You mean that “Christofascist” Eric Cantor, who is Jewish? Your stupidity and bigotry truly knows no bounds, Nishbot.
You’re little more than a low-rent Patty Hearst.
Don’t insult Patty Hearst like that, Mike. Did you catch above where it was trying to use the words of Russell Kirk to buttress its “argument”, and by argument, I mean psychadelic infused mental instability driven fevered rantings.
This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.
They can all be together in the Big Judeo-Christian Tent!
isn’t that wunnerful?
feets the original nishizono shinji was an evil psychopathic internet DNA virus that traveled over twisted pair into the eyeballs of genetically prepared “barcoders” (usually joshikousei).
the barcoder would then become a vector for transmission, as well as possessing the will of the host.
wtf is a judeo-christian?
can you proteins ’splain that to me?
Psssst, Nishi, here’s the secret…Jesus was a Jew!
It is the language nishit the liar speaks.
Hey Kate
I’m a Zionist.
I believe in the sovereignty of Israel and that the Israeli’s have the right to a nation and a national identity.
Kinda like being an Italian in Italy, or a Swede in Sweden, or an American in America.
Anti-Zionists are antisemites.
Simple.
It is a complete output-generator. Anything said to it, or about i,t has no practical effect on its next comment.
i bet Cantor is a Judeo-Christian too!
lawl.
Kate hates her some Joooooooooooos. Of that there is no doubt.
viruses are very very small to where you can’t even see them unless you have electrons but I understand the genetically prepared part… it’s a lot like in marketing how you match the message to the medium to the target.
Did you catch above where it was trying to use the words of Russell Kirk to buttress its “argument”
Yes, and that was hilarious. Russell Kirk is far beyond the comprehensive abilities of hare-brained socialist internet trolls.
This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.
Via Wikipedia, according to Donald DeFreeze – founder of the SLA – this is the definition:
But that is it! The Secret Identity of the Tea Partiers!
Like Brietbart and Cantor and Rev. Hagee and Darleen…….they are not just plain ol’ garden variety christians!
They are Judeo-Christians!
(w/e the fuck that is)
Seventy years ago, Nishi would have been an upstanding member of the Germanistischer Wissenschafteinsatz.
This feels like a perfect opportunity to then ask what “Symbionese” means.
Despite Mike’s educated answer, I still claim that it is the language nishit speaks it.
Mike – My mother was related to Mr Kirk, and I knew him. I was a child, and really did not understand who I was meeting, at the time.
the poor little Kate, the Judenhass, is all confussled about how the Jews and Christians share the Bible.
Go on Kate, isn’t there a cross-burning you’re missing?
She has been particularly agitated the last couple of weeks. There must have been some incredible amounts of filing she had to do at work, which precipitated the current psychotic break she is on.
Mike – My mother was related to Mr Kirk, and I knew him. I was a child, and really did not understand who I was meeting, at the time.
That’s cool.
I have a somewhat more remote connection to Kirk in that one of my undergraduate college professors was a friend of his. It’s amazing how many people Kirk influenced.
JD, you keep trying to glue Jews onto your failboat philosophy.
Most Jews don’t like christians.
It was shocking to see Frum and nishit invoking him. I guess the lying twat should no longer surprise me, but that one did.
JD, you keep trying to glue Jews onto your failboat philosophy.
That is a fucking lie, and you are a fucking liar, you lying twat. Evidence please, or admit you fucking lied. That is all.
#84 – no, hf, it is like catching a cold – why did that miserable virus end up in my sinuses? That particular TTP has added nothing, except an example of many loathsome things. But, if the inability to convey a clear and rational thought turns you on…go for it.
You could not describe my philosophy if I gave you 50 guesses, you ignorant twit.
I shall return to letting the Blackhawks age me prematurely. At least I have some port at hand to ease my pain…
Oops, as I type this, the go ahead goal with 90 seconds left. Maybe things are looking up?
From an old blog post of mine titled Sigrid’s Dream, or Fear and Loathing in Post-Christian Europe, meet Nishi’s ideological National Socialist doppelganger: Sigrid Hunke.
Nishit the eugenecist twatwaffle – Do you still contend that the Times Square wannabe was a wec teabagger, or are you willing to admit your error?
Go ‘Hawks! Not that I understand the ice soccer with sticks. But, I like the Chicago very much.
Ha, and an empty netter… 4-2. Whew.
bh, soccer is a “contact” sport – hockey is a “collison” sport – no comparison!
See, told you I didn’t understand it, John.
Mr. LTC our TTP is… omg scary right about many things … she’s like an oracle maybe or a prophet
ohnoes we lost Adam
Get a room.
Here’s a fun little exercise, ‘feets. Take nishi’s comments. Break them down into thesis statements. Roughly a quarter will be silly insults. Disregard them.
From the remaining statements keep track of what turns out to be right and what turns out to be wrong. You’ll find she’s an oracle the way all oracles are. You remember when she’s right and forget when she’s wrong.
(To be utterly honest and transparent here, if you did that with me, I’d be doing only slightly better than nishi, hopefully!, but I’d still be no oracle. I’d be just another guy trying to predict complex systems into the future. That is, poorly.)
(I know you’re joking around with “oracle”. However, many times you’ve expressed that you think she’s in the money with all sorts of predictions.)
(I love parenthesis.)
she’s right enough to be worth a listen…
it’s… the frames she picks tend to be ones that hold and when they’re not they tend to be frames that are genuinely insidious and dangerous…
will the Tea Party begin to take on an evangelical patina?
Doubt it. But she’s absolutely right it would be fatal.
She was practically Nostradamus in predicting that Barcky would beat McCain. happyfeet – you know I love you, but nishit is about as vile and insidious of a human virus as I have ever encountered.
Harvey Mansfield is more worth a listen, by far.
I’ll think about that.
The only two things in life that make it worth livin’, are guitars that tune good and firm feelin’ women…
Guitars that tune good, firm feelin’ women… and Harvey Mansfield.
cupcakes!
Otters!
Okay, thought about it, she’s still too much noise for that little bit of signal. I read and speak with others for that function.
If she decided to post as Kate, that’d be a different thing. Maybe a good different thing.
Yet, to talk about her like she’s multi-self, that kinda says it all, doesn’t it?
Here is a documentary recommendation. There is a surprise. It is twisty.
“107.Comment by Nishi the Kingslayer on 5/3 @ 9:23 pm”
See, Nishi, when you take the easy route and simply “repeat a written word-form”, you end up making no sense beyond those elements which fit into your own infantile fantasyworld – though some of the statements therein do function to gratify you at a certain emotive level, raw hate, which is easily seen to be your sole motive for presenting them.
But since, especially for you, it would take work to understand what I just said, I know you can’t possibly understand what i just said.
Carry on.
Twice today I’ve made comments that could read as double entendres but shouldn’t. My apologies.
Think I understand her now. Is this right?
no worries that looks interesting
Hello mr pakistani car bomber fellow, where do you think you’re going?
Since this has turned in to a thread about everyone’s favorite griefer, some observations.
I’ve read at least a bit and in some cases a lot of many of the authors she mentions. In many cases they had nothing worthwhile to say so I didn’t read much, in the cases where I’ve read a lot I can say that she doesn’t get them. Not. One. Bit.
As for her “brilliant” observations. When I first started taking notice of politics I encountered a couple of highly intelligent observations from a certain politician. I looked for more quotes and after the first couple I found I was hooked, utterly fascinated, I couldn’t stop. Ultimately I collected dozens of the most thunderingly stupid, pig ignorant utterances in the history of politicians propounding on topics they know nothing about. That politician was Al Gore. Random chance or perhaps a tendency on my part to ignore the tailings and see the diamonds had caused me to pick up on these two quotes that made some sense. After that I realized he was randomly plugging technical words into the right slots in a sentence structure to make something that sounded “sciencey” and that having the sentence actually be correct as to facts was purely a matter of chance. Our little griefer employs exactly the same strategy and if something profound comes out she didn’t really mean it.
SLD,
Yeah, Nishi is the model broken clock. Aren’t we lucky that shares her prophesies here.
[…] “The Left loses its way by abandoning 'third way'” […]
Which is exactly why her and every other enemy of freedom is trying to paint the Tea Party as exactly that. Self fulfilling prophesies don’t require oracles, or pundits not only too stupid to understand the concept of Judeo-Christian , but who wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.
Bustos seems Spanish for Frum, that’s the way it looks to me
The tea party already has a patina of WECs. In 2008 WECs comprised 50% of the GOP in election exit polling.
And you are superclueless if you think the tea party is comprised of anything but republicans and republican leaning indies.
Again, my hypothesis is that tea party attendees would selfdeclare as nearly 100% selfdescribed christian.
The tea party is 1% jews in national polling…..but those jews don’t go to the rallies.
the rallies selfselect for enthusiasm.
Since no one postulates a definition, I will say I suspect “judeo-christian” is a religio-political alliance of conveniance where christians try to coopt jewish demographics and zionist sympathy and holocaust guilt to support a common cause of “taking back America” from that black guy. Even though Jews don’t believe in christ-the-godhead and christians have to express a belief in christ-the-godhead to be christians…..
judeo-christian as a religion (like Breitbarts useage of it) is a total oxymoron….so judeo-christian is just a schizophrenic political marriage of convenience.
;)
Is her name actually Kate? If so, how do you know?
Oh. No readee teh linkee, eh?
Alternatively…..I guess judeo-christian is a word without cognitive meaning….an empty emotional slogan.
i can’t make sense of it.
Breitbart uses it as a religious identity…..i think it is a political identity if anything.
Despite being given the sense of it.
And you wonder why no one here respects you?
i read the link.
It doesn’t make sense as a religion, and that is how Breitbart uses it in context.
the core liturgy of the two religions is non-reconcilable ….either the messiah was the christ or we are still waiting for the messiah…its binary.
two completely opposite things.
One stems from the former Kate, whereas Islam comes across as the late comer, and tries to revise the whole book. And Sufi’s are far from representative of the latter, Hambali/Salafi seem to be the primary
current
No, he didn’t. Read again.
i can’t make sense of it.
One of the few honest statements the genocidal eugenecist has ever uttered. The term Judeo-Christian is not new, was not coined by Breitbart, and this lying twat has to be intentionally obtuse to act like she has never heard this term before.
Oh, I don’t know. Just hear Kate from time to time and it sounds like a name name.
Anyone read the Tapper piece where Barcky is quote calling people teabaggers?
She has referred to herself as Kate in comments before, as in “my father once said to me, “Kate…blah, blah, blah””
Attn. all fellow X-flock Teabaggers, for today we shall not wander aimlessly!
I just noticed that Jimmy Bakker is on tv even as we speak, so once he issues his Holy Orders for the day, I’ll post them here!
-As always, Tammy Faye, RIP.
Here, JD.
No, term is used to refer to the primarily secular aspects shared by both religions, which have shaped the culture, and the morality, ethics and legal system of the western world.
Believing, or not, in the divinity of Christ doesn’t negate the influence of the Ten Commandments. I am agnostic leaning toward atheism, but I still would consider the Bible one of the primary influences in my life. That is because I am a product of a Judeo-Christian culture.
BMoe – Evo culture has left you evolutionary deadenders behind lulz !
Thanks, bh. Classic Barcky. Classy. Very presidential.
A President ought to be glad to criticize and insult his electorate from time to time, though the electorate may want to consider charging him for the privilege: like requiring him to unzip himself and wave his dick at the cameras in public or some other thing designed to embarrass.
From a comment by “progressive mama” at bh’s link:
Hehs all around.
“Git off me, Kate, yer crushin mah smokes!”
Has Kate Mengele acknowledged that her attempts to blame the teabaggers was vile and reprehensible, and wrong wrong wrong?
sdferr – Actually, all it would take is for him to open his mouth ;-)
Indian Prime Minister, glancing at CNN and overheard in aside to aide: “What! What’s he doing there Raghuvar? Whatever it is, it must be awfully cold today.”
Minister’s Aide: “He must have been seized with a sudden desire to berate his people, Minister. This is done in fulfillment of one of their quirky customs. And yes, quite cold.”
Daddy – “Kate, you pig ignert spoiled wench, clean your room and take your meds. NOW!”
That had to have been nishi. She’s always betraying ignorance of how IQ works in pretty much that same way.
OT: Here‘s a short Kaplan post I’m very sympathetic towards regarding immigration and our aging population. Standard caveat regarding illegal vs legal immigration applies.
bh – Your link @ 170 is what I have long feared. It is a great strategic move, as it would put the next Congress on the defensive, having to repeal or amend crap laws, and still having to contend with the dirty little socialist veto.
bh – The idea of this crap passing in a lame-duck session is even more noxious.
They soon learn there’s a problem though, what with Barack Obama standing in their path, his hands firmly gripped around business’ neck choking the economy to death.
JD,
I fully expect them to exceed “ramming speed” and go for Warp 9 from November 2010 to January 2011 if they lose in November. There will then be nuttin’ to lose.
geoffb – If they think people are pissed off now, just imagine what it will be like if they try that.
And I now see that was Barnes conclusion. My only solace is I’ve said it long ago.
It’s hard to have to rely on the likes of Collins, Snowe, Graham, Lugar and the rest as the final arbiters of the health of American legislative adventure, ain’t it?
Off-topic … but I thought it was funny that CNN was trying to blame the attempted Times Square bombing on his house being foreclosed, while it was being reported elsewhere, at the same time, that at least 1, and possibly as many as 8 were in the process of being arrested in Pakistan.
I look forward to the chance to vote against Lugar in a primary, sdferr.
One of these days the jihadi’s will tire of being misrepresented by the CNN’s of the world and will start parking their car-bombs outside the headquarters of such organizations, with concomitant demands appended insisting their religion be granted due respect as the source of their angry murder sprees.
Now, sdferr, that is just plain not nice.
One of my friends is in a Congressional primary today here locally.
Yeah, guys, I’m starting to come around to this position myself. On the plus side, as they continue to drop the pretense of political success, there has to be a few in their caucus who aren’t down with a suicide mission.
True enough, sdferr. About the economy strangling. Which, really, is the worst possible scenario at this time. We need lots of new workers but their policies kill the very growth required to create those new jobs. Lose lose. (Not to even mention the huge internal backlog of people we need to get back to work just to return to the old status quo that was already unsustainable in the mid-term anyways.)
Luckily Europe looks healthy and China shows no signs of overcapacity. That would convince me there might be problems ahead.
What? Oh…
There has been an uptick in comment spam the last couple days, no?
Anybody heard what the replacement cost for that lost rig is?
Would that be a “jack-boot” or is that not a term that is allowed during times of Democratic Party rule.
Related, Cameron (CAM) and Transocean (RIG).
Coming from the third world, a welfare check is very real. When unlimited immigration leads to a huge glut of labor and no jobs are available, that welfare check is still far, far more than the prospects they left behind.
Perhaps relevant to Jeff’s theme, BP spends a shit-ton of money on green goodwill. Yet, they’re still now the face of bad dirty oil.
bh – Also interesting is that Teh One was the biggest recipient of BP’s financial largesse in political contributions. But, it is important that we stand on their neck, because they are evil.
Anyone care to speculate how high gas prices will go this summer?
@Darlene — it is no different than his foreign policy — coddling enemies whilst denigrating and insulting allies.
Barring some other disaster, thet’re talking 3.13 to 3.25.
Note, this isn’t the replacement cost:
Funny, you sound like my boss.
I am not your boss ;-) Given that I put over 40,000 miles year on my car, gas prices are something I follow closely.
Well, as a non-boss thumbnail answer, if you take last year’s oil price and this year’s, the increase would work out to around $3.00 a gallon. Seems reasonable given a fairly stable refinery outlook. Occasional spikes around $3.20?
(Caveat, I could be totally wrong.)
Just checked, JD, EIA says average around $2.92.
Comment by dicentra on 5/3 @ 4:06 pm (re Clinton’s election):
Please. Ross Perot won those elections for him.
Continuing to repeat this urban legend does not make it more true. The facts of the matter are that Perot made no meaningful difference in the outcome of the Clinton elections. Exit polling showed that, of those who would not have stayed home if Perot hadn’t run, the remaining voters expressed an almost perfectly equal split… meaning that they all nullified each other.
Perot did not in any way, shape, or meaningful form change any electoral outcome. Please stop propagating the false meme that he did.
bh “Just checked, JD, EIA says average around $2.92.”
That’s now… what price increase has the futures market built in? It usu. takes a couple weeks to flow through the commodities pits…
Dread, here you go.
Thumbnail again, that’d put us around $3.00.
In nishi’s world Jesus is the switchblade wielding leader of the WEC gang and he’s looking to cut a bitch. Better watch out nishi, Jesus’ll get ya.
Oh, I misinterpreted that, Dread. I’m pretty sure EIB looks at futures contracts. The $2.92 is actually their prediction of the summer average price. That is to say, we’re at their predicted summer price already. Their next report comes out in around a week and they’ll adjust I assume.
I’m just bumping it up based on the recent Gulf news. Just like the futures markets did. However, this isn’t really that big a deal as far as total supply goes. And, the futures are now pulling back accordingly.
EIA, not EIB.
Means my guessitmates were ball-park, locally adjusted — I live in a high-tax, high transportation cost area.
Bwhahahahahahahahaha!
Yes, antidote, not anecdote.
Had to run out yesterday and collect a sick kid from school. Never revisited the post nor bothered to proofread.
Guess that makes me unfit to speak or write about language.
So little does the GOP get it though, I’d almost settle for at an occasional story demonstrating the value of the propositions held. It could eventually be mistaken for their grasp of the principles, even.
Nah…you’re still ichiban ….on your side.
here feets……. this is war
So now the griefer trust-fund baby is pining away for a “revolution”? Haha, believe me honey, war is the last thing you want.
Weds. morning links…
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“I fully expect them to exceed “ramming speed” and go for Warp 9 from November 2010 to January 2011 if they lose in November. There will then be nuttin’ to lose.”
Geoffb,
At least Thanksgiving and Christmas are strategically placed to limit the offensive. I would expect liberal use of filibusters and denials of unanimous consent as well.
Red Thursday…
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