So far, no sponsorship pullouts of note that I’ve heard about.
But then, there’s like, a totally good reason for the double standard: nobody takes leftwing liberals seriously anyway.
CNN’s Jay McMichael:
“We’re very excited about having Louis C.K. at the dinner. This is an evening you’ll want to experience. We’re shaking things up, showcasing the unexpected, and delivering lots of laughs.”
For the record? Here’s a bit of CNN’s coverage of Limbaugh’s “tirade” — which evidently doesn’t quite reach the Louis CK standard that somehow transforms vile attacks on a conservative woman and her child into something exciting and unexpected “you’ll want to experience”:
butt Louis CK is a
comediancommunist!!11!!!I actually like his comedy. For the record. And he can make any joke he wants. But it’s risky hiring him to do your correspondence dinner if you’ve spent the last week pretending to be morally outraged over Rush Limbaugh’s pointed joke re: Fluke and her desire to see the First Amendment twisted out of usefulness to meet her narrow policy interests.
In a world where real reporters still existed.
it is hard to “pick the target /freeze the target” when they throw up multiple targets. better to attack the whole ideology.
I’ve given Louis CK a couple of tries but found him boring beyond tolerance each time. But hey, fast paced obscene patter is always easy, and frequently works.
They had one of his episodes attached to the Archer dvd. I got about 2 minutes in. Supposedly he was getting on a bus to go on a field trip with his daughter. All I could think was, I hope that isn’t really his daughter. What a rotten human being.
Now I know.
My son, by the way, is 17 years old. He has Down’s Syndrome. If I saw this guy in person, I would put my fist through his ugly face.
CNN spent 3 days hammering the Limbaugh/Fluke thing.
LouisCK is funny enough, but he gets tedious quickly. Progg hypocrisy is not the least bit surprising. The Democrat Media Complex owns the narrative, so why worry about it?
Steely Dan – Pretzel Logic
His TV show on FX is often quite funny, and like many liberal comics, he aims a lot of his humor at his own pretentiousness.
If only he would pay attention and not just dismiss these glimpses into his own character as useful comedic tropes.
Well this is awkward.
Well this is awkward.
That creepy-looking poodle also called Carrie Prejean a dog back when the media was relentlessly attacking her for holding the same position on gay marriage that his boss has.
“Good“man. But some of us knew that from the get-go.
I consider obscenity to be the oral comedic equivalent of slapstick. It doesn’t require a lot of cleverness, and very quickly becomes boring.
OT, but absolutely stunning. Can anybody say “duck and weave” .
Diana,
I’ll side with you, the Consitution and Hinderaker on this. It’s one of the more stark differences between left and right, their willingness to “globalize” U.S. power.
But, really, here I think Ron Paul is correct. What the hell are we doing anywhere near Syria? It’s not worth three butterfly stitches on a serviceman.
I wish there was an identifiably golden right-wing comedic talent.
Somebody with the chops of one of the great Nat Lamper’s of the early 70s, a Michael O’Donoghue or Doug Kenney. O’Rourke worked there, and was serviceable, but never was on the A side.
I’m thinking someone who could work “blue” on the Left’s little hobbyhorses. The guys from Opie and Anthony come close, but they aren’t terribly political. Honestly, even a late night club audience isn’t ready for hard-hits on Lefty faves.
Sure, Roddy … but when John Kerry didn’t seek the permission of the UN or NATO to kill a Canada Goose? If you cede your Constitution to the world … where will it end?
Oh …
I think your resident host would do just fine.
Good Christ, what a fuckup. Think they can get Obama to say, “Sock it to me”? Was Artie Johnson booked? How “hip” can you get? I hope he decides to stick it to the man and really goes off on those old rich dudes… like Ted fucking Turner and his shitty buffalo farm. Oh, wait… *sigh*
I think he can be funny sometimes, but… a lot of the “anger” comedians are turning out some pretty predictable stuff.
My oldest thinks this guy is hilarious because he “sounds just like” me. Maybe that’s why I find him predictable. Listening to some 40 year-old guy bitch about fat people in the supermarket isn’t “good tv”. To me, it’s dinner conversation. I’m a 40 year-old guy. I’m married, I have kids, I’m pissed off most of the time. I don’t need to pay to hear some other guy talk about how much he jerks off. I probably got him beat (heh). I’ve got four sons, two in Junior High, one in High School. My entire house is coated in semen. There are penises drawn everywhere and the place smells like a stable. This guy probably doesn’t like rednecks or white trash, so what else is new? He probably likes SCIENCE! because he watches the Discovery Channel and listens to Ira Flato. I don’t, you see, because I live where tornadoes are and my kids still think escalators are cool. Besides, he’s on TV and I spent four and a half years in college learning to drive a train.
Well this is awkward.
Funny, but I don’t recall the media spending three days on Maher calling Palin a twat. Anyone recall how vocal NOW was about “rebuking” Maher? Anyone recall stentorian howls for boycotts? Not on the Left. Or to be precise, the mainstream media, which is one and the same thing. I guess the moderate middle just can’t be bothered to get upset over the precious First Amendment rights of a mediocre late-night comedian crippled with acne-scarring and a shrunken posture.
The way the Right plays patty-cake with the Left about language never seems to change, no matter how often the Left bludgeons its enemies by framing the narrative. Even usually intelligent men like Dennis Prager submit to this nonsense. Yesterday he made a brief comment about this manufactured outrage that illustrated the problem. He said that Limbaugh, being such a visible figure on the Right, has a responsibility to be careful about what he says. This is plain surrender, inverted in a prism, to look like prudence.
Reject this, and reject this fully. There is no way to be careful about the meaning of your words when others will lie about their meaning. Limbaugh is not an elected official. He’s just a guy on the radio, with a big audience. This is supposed to be a free republic with free speech. And if someone wants to be offensive, grow a pair and deal with it, comrade. If Prager ever expects to make progress in the battle against the Left, he had best remember that this battle is fought largely with words, and some of those words won’t always be nice. It’s not Prager’s job to be a moral scold when he’s reading from the Left’s book of morality. Prager’s unforgivable error is to join the Left in lying about the meaning of Limbaugh’s words.
What is more nauseating is to hear John Boehner, an actual elected official and presumably an ally, criticize another ally on the Right by name. Weepy John should either shut up about this incident entirely or say “Limbaugh like anyone else has the same free speech rights as you do. If you don’t like what he says, you say so yourself. Don’t ask me about it. It is not my place to criticize the free speech of others. I’ve got a trillion dollar deficit to worry about.”
I wish there was an identifiably golden right-wing comedic talent.
To be identifiable, such a talent would need exposure to an audience. Let’s make a list of all the comedy clubs and late-night programs where a right-winger would be invited:
1) …
Blue-Collar Radio on Sirius is about as close as we’re going to get for the time being. One more reason why we need to keep pushing back against our marginalization by the narrative-keepers.
Crank that up a notch or three.
“I’ve got a trillion dollar deficit to worry about.”
Crank that up a notch or three.
Well, it is Boehner I’m mocking here. It’s not like an extra trillion or two is a big deal to him. Or McConnell.
Sluts.
I have this to say about Carrie Prejean:
If Perez Hilton hadn’t asked, I doubt she would have told. It’s not like she shoved her views down anyone’s throat; she was asked. And she told the truth, even though she knew that it would not be well received.
If you don’t want to hear the answer, don’t ask the question.
If you don’t want to hear the answer, don’t ask the question.
And if you are asked the question, be sure to check with your colleagues on the Right to make sure your answer is anodyne, oblique, and inoffensive. Even if it means you have to lie.
BINGO!!
George —
I’ve been trying to teach people like Prager for nearly a decade now. This is what I’ve come to understand. Many on the right these days are all for preaching about the need to take back language and “not cede the narrative” to the left; but when push comes to shove, preening self-righteousness and an appearance of being above the fray is something these people will hold to doggedly — and, if they happen to be lawyers, are happy to use as a way to blunt any real change in how we approach language, because frankly, they rely on precisely the same kind of linguistic incoherence to draw their own professional powers and usefulness.
There are plenty on the right who hate me for what I’ve written about their surrenders. Meanwhile, I have grown to despise them because they are frauds and con men taking advantage of the conservative information niche without really embracing the structures necessary to truly promote conservatism.
So is it really any wonder they spend the years in between elections railing against leftist tropes, only to spend the months leading up to elections warning us away from conservatism?
I mean, Mitt Romney? Really?
Fuck off.
But, really, here I think Ron Paul is correct. What the hell are we doing anywhere near Syria? It’s not worth three butterfly stitches on a serviceman.
Roddy, if we have an opportunity to remove the support that Syria supplies to Hezbollah, I must respectfully disagree. That calculus might well prove favourable.
Roddy what about Colin Quinn, Dennis Miller, or Adam Carrolla?
Comedy.
So is it really any wonder they spend the years in between elections railing against leftist tropes, only to spend the months leading up to elections warning us away from conservatism?
Even the reliable James Delingpole has caved in over at Ricochet, declaring that “we need to think strategically” even though he perfectly understands what Rush meant.
So the strategy is to let the Left lie about our words and when scum like Maher trots out the “twat” comment (which wasn’t even a metaphor used in parody, just a plain epithet), we just shrug and say “Oh well?”
I’m not one of those people who thinks the Nation Below Canada will dissolve in some actual civil war or state of disorder. Not at all. The West is still too prosperous for that, despite Greece. Perhaps what makes me so incensed is that the war we have to fight and the only war we can fight is almost entirely with words. And the Right is handing over our weapons to the enemy for “inspection.”
Sluts.
Also roddy while you’re here any thoughts on this comment at kaus? (I didn’t mention the open bitter break between Rahm and the Chicago teachers union & allies.) Very low probability, but if deep down the Daley boys really are their father’s sons, they might, might have a really big story for someone.
George, for a chap who has been dead these six decades, you’re doing some very good work.
Merci, Whistle.
I used to spend considerable time over at this edgy, smart blog named after some deck of cards, but even that place has waved the white flag of surrender to the language police… which is hilariously ironic considering they pride themselves on having coined the acronym SCOAMF for Obama: Stuttering Clusterfuck Of A Miserable Failure.
So, somehow that is cool but a radio guy calling out a law school Democrat activist for whoring herself out to a political agenda in an all-Democrat press conference disguised as a “hearing” is beyond the pale. And furthermore when the radio guy apologizes for telling the truth, that blog calls is “manning up.”
With men like these, who needs women?
As you say, George, sluts, all. Gloves off, no more nice guy. I’ve had all the prog agitprop I can stomach.
The frustrating thing about this is if the Right had ignored the MFM and the howling Left, this thing would have blown over in two days. Especially if Limbaugh had shut up and not apologized. But he bears much of the blame by baring his breast for the daggers. And his explanation of the apology was incoherent and contradictory.
When did we return to the Victorian age were women are a bunch of blushing flowers in need of fainting couchs and duels for their honor? Fierce? Feminist? In your face? Whither Jane Fonda or Erica Jong, she of the “zipless fuck”?
You just know they’d all shit themselves if someone like Andrew Jackson were still on the scene filling guys who insulted his wife full of lead.
Having cake and eating it too is an evergreen maneuver leigh. As males, believe me, we’re used to witnessing it.
I am thankful everyday that I was blessed with only male offspring sdferr.
heh, poor put upon little fellas.
Unlike our pussywhipped president, I have their backs.
Again, mostly in jest: heh. Mama’s love comes attached to mama’s expectations, willy-nilly.
Heh. I mostly in jest, remind them of my expectations rather frequently.
Let me also throw in Treacher, Ace, and Iowahawk for the funny.
jeffg is understood, right? as mrs. mv says, to the seven of you who understand whatever the hell code language you all are speaking, I’m sure it’s gut-bustingly funny.
It is, it is. And of course really really very much not funny at all.
MotionView,
I think your analysis is better than Mickey’s.
Honestly. His is too deep game. Union guys don’t play that deep because their members want results now.
Let me also throw in Treacher, Ace, and Iowahawk for the funny.
Fun reads, all, but I have no idea about their sense of timing in a live performance, or their ability to extemporize.
Louis CK was the very first comedian that I’d ever heard who exceeded my ‘disgust’ tolerance. He’s so often almost funny, and then he just royally screws it up – like talking about cleaning his 4 year old daughter’s private parts – there’s just no way you can do that in a comedy bit.
Remember Dice Clay from the 80s? He’s tame compared to Louis. I’ll shut up now, because I know this isn’t what the post was about.