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Do the Jews, like the wacky practicing Papists with their Satan and their birth control questions, suffer from a loyalty problem?

Media Matters is just asking the tough questions, you see — questions redounding to patriotism and presumed seditious tendencies on the part of certain American Jews similar to those raised about all the Nips and the Krauts living in the US during WWII who just happened to be American citizens. Which, hey, nobody’s saying new camps are in order — at least, not yet — but at least these progressive champions of Truth are willing to buck PC dictates and raise the issues others are afraid to bring to the fore.

Predictably, some Jews are attacking the messenger. Alan Dershowitz, erstwhile “liberal”, “The odious ‘Israel first’ libel”:

[…] I first came across some of these vile quotes about “Israel firsters” and “dual loyalty” on an actual neo-Nazi website. Surprisingly, however, they were attributed not to the usual suspects, but to a spokesman for Media Matters, a hard left Democratic media attack and watchdog group that started out as an antidote to Fox News, and that still has close connections to the Obama White House.

The author of these hateful quotes is MJ Rosenberg, who is the senior foreign policy fellow of Media Matters.

[…]

Let there be no doubt that Rosenberg’s accusation of dual or singular loyalty to a foreign country is an anti-Semitic canard historically reserved for Jews. Rosenberg doesn’t accuse Arab Americans who support Hamas and Hezbollah — America’s sworn enemies — of being “Palestine firsters.” Nor did he accuse Irish Americans who supported the Sinn Fein of being “Ireland firsters.”

But Rosenberg defends his charges of disloyalty to America against those who sincerely believe that it is in America’s interest to support Israel against threats from Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah and other enemies of both nations.

Indeed, he boasts of having “popularized” the term “Israel firsters.”

Not surprisingly, the “Israel firster” charge is just one of many odious and wildly inaccurate positions Rosenberg has espoused regarding Israel.

He has called Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a “terrorist,” and Israel’s peace-loving President Shimon Peres an “uberhawk on Iran.”

He has denied that Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ever threatened to wipe Israel off the map, suggesting it was a mistranslation, despite Iranian Revolutionary Guard posters in English demanding “Israel should be wiped out of the face of the world.”

He had criticized those who call for punishing sanctions against Iran and has claimed that “if Iran gets the bomb, we are fully capable of containing a nuclear Iran.”

And he has defended former veteran White House reporter Helen Thomas against charges of anti-Semitism after she said the Jews should “get the hell out of Palestine” and criticized Obama for “diss[ing\] her,” calling instead for her to be “salute[d\].”

Media Matters is currently associated with the White House, where it has met with officials close to the President and with which it has frequent strategy calls. It is well funded by many Democratic contributors, including several prominent Jewish supporters of Israel, who are apparently unaware of Rosenberg’s rants.

Nor do I believe that Obama is aware that an organization that claims close ties to his administration is saying such bigoted things about AIPAC, which is headed by Obama’s close friend Lee (Rosy) Rosenberg (no relation to MJ), and about Jewish supporters of Israeli policies, most of whom voted for him and are probably hoping to vote for him again.

The President should quickly dissociate himself and his administration from Rosenberg’s hate speech. And unless Media Matters fires Rosenberg, the President should also distance himself from Media Matters.

Yeah, sure. Whatever. That’ll happen.

There’s nothing a leftist likes more than watching a Zionist whine.

Obama is likely to distance himself publicly from certain of the more controversial remarks in order to maintains the support of secular leftwing Jews who desire above all else acceptance from their liberal peers — a kind of cultural assimilation, if you will, into the class of educated coastal elites — and so will be willing to give Obama a pass, provided he makes the proper social overtures.

But it’s with a wink and nod.

Because honestly: as desperate as these Jews are for mainstream acceptance, they’re still Jews. And, well. You know.

41 Replies to “Do the Jews, like the wacky practicing Papists with their Satan and their birth control questions, suffer from a loyalty problem?”

  1. sdferr says:

    The Center for American Progress is having associated difficulties of its own:

    “Ali’s radicalism is a perfect example of the bind that CAP is in,” Reaboi added. “On one hand, it’s writers are clearly sympathetic to the Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood program—imposition of sharia, destruction of Israel, and the gutting of American national security; on the other, they have no choice but to hide their very real and frightening extremism from many of their donors, contacts on Capitol Hill, and others who are closer to the mainstream.”

  2. motionview says:

    Are we sure Dershowitz isn’t confusing MMFA with AdBusters, the facilitators of OWS ? No, he’s right, it’s MMFA. Another Prog front group with a core of anti-semitism; purely coincidental I’m sure.

  3. Ernst Schreiber says:

    The President should quickly dissociate himself and his administration from Rosenberg’s hate speech. And unless Media Matters fires Rosenberg, the President should also distance himself from Media Matters.

    It’s a pity that Dershowitz won’t take the blinders off.

    The King’s a good King; it’s his evil ministers who make him do bad things

  4. Pablo says:

    But Soros is a Jew, mv, and he supports both orgs, as well as CAP. So, they can’t be anti-Semitic.

  5. motionview says:

    Is it not just as valid to comment on the Jewishness of the neocons as it is to point out that the majority of them are male or white or wealthy or from the Western world or have studied at a particular university?

    1. ethnicity
    2. sex
    3. race
    4. amount of assets & income
    5. birth continent
    6. studied at a particular university

    Which of these things is not like the others?

  6. geoffb says:

    A radical Muslim group with ties to the Obama Administration will be featuring the head of the Democratic National Committee, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, as the keynote speaker for its annual fundraising banquet this coming April.

    Of course this accusation must be taken with a ton of salt as it comes from the site of that notorious race/class traitor David Horowitz.

  7. geoffb says:

    Can you be Jewish and at the same time support organizations that are dedicated to the elimination of all Jews?

    If you can, then what exactly is it that is meant by saying one is Jewish?

  8. motionview says:

    George has his own website which I had never been to before and unsurprisingly Soros self-identifies as an atheist. Politics?

    What are George Soros’s views on revolution? Soros believes that revolutions are destabilizing and unnecessarily extreme…

    Which to anyone who didn’t just fall off a turnip truck means that he is a Marxist who works to herald the coming of socialism and New Man Human, but he’s smart enough to know that when the Progs gets too open about their real goals, they get smacked down for a generation. Lies and money and hope are much more effective than revolution, and if that means that he has to team up with the most dedicated revolutionaries facilitators who are anti-Semitic, so be it.

    There’s also the whole inner self-loathing thing, and he certainly has a lot to self-loathe about. Very similar to the survivor guilt Obama clearly feels about Roe v. Wade, which he expresses as total an unwavering support for abortion on demand, at any time, at any cost, two go in, one comes out. No quarter. It is really pretty psychotic.

  9. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Very similar to the survivor guilt Obama clearly feels about Roe v. Wade, which he expresses as total an unwavering support for abortion on demand, at any time, at any cost, two go in, one comes out. No quarter. It is really pretty psychotic.

    What the hell’s he got to feel guilty about, since he was about 12 years old when Roe was imposed?

  10. Andrew says:

    I belong to the Roe generation (1976), and I don’t feel survivor guilt. More like I made it through the gauntlet.

  11. sdferr says:

    motionview, I had been under the impression that Soros thinks himself — at least to some extent — a follower of Karl Popper, under whom he studied at LSE. Hence his nod in that direction by naming his institute the “Open Society” Institute? What Popper represents? (Outside of a handful of nominal slogans, like: falsificationism.) Dunno.

  12. leigh says:

    Wasn’t Soros a Capo? Or is that historical fiction?

  13. leigh says:

    Popper represents the Paradigm Shift, when I think of Karl Popper.

  14. Ernst Schreiber says:

    I was born in 72, and it’s never once occurred to me “gee, I wonder moms wishes she would have had a choice in the matter.”

    Of course I’m not Ann Dunham’s bouncing baby boy.

  15. sdferr says:

    Hmmm, I had thought the paradigm shift idea was associated with Thomas Kuhn leigh? Though, that isn’t to say Soros or Popper even(? I dunno, again), took Kuhn’s position into account.

  16. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Except paradigm shift is Kuhn isn’t it?

  17. leigh says:

    It may be Kuhn, sdferr. It’s been a long time since I read much about Popper or Kuhn.

  18. Ernst Schreiber says:

    When I think of Popper, I think of The Open Society and it’s Enemies. One of whom George Soros undoubtedly is.

    Naming his institute the Open Society Institute is a bit of pseudo-democratic and populist misdirection —like how all those Marxist tyrannies were Democratic People’s Republics.

  19. sdferr says:

    When I think of Popper I think of the correspondence of Voegelin and Strauss, and Strauss and Kojève, laughing at, mocking even, his clumsy and inept scholarship.

  20. leigh says:

    I was thinking of his embracing of Empiricism. That and he was pals with Hayek, Friedman and Von Mises.

  21. Pablo says:

    Soros was a kid at the time, Leigh. He was involved to some extent in confiscating property for the Nazis. His reminiscence:

    “It was actually, probably the happiest year of my life – that year of German occupation. For me it was a very positive experience. It’s a strange thing, because you see incredible suffering all around you, and in fact, you are in considerable danger yourself. But you’re fourteen years old and you don’t believe that it can actually touch you. You have a belief in yourself, you have a belief in your father. It’s a very happy making exhilarating experience.”

  22. motionview says:

    If you read Obama and Ayer’s fictions, then go back and read Jack Cashill, it is clear that Obama’s father was married to Obama’s mother only in the most transient sense. I have to say that because of the circumstances of my birth, at some point in my life I realized I would probably not be here if Roe v Wade was the law of the land when I was born. Obama has to know that same thing is true about him, and I would not be surprised if he and Dunham had that conversation at some point.

  23. leigh says:

    Thanks, Pablo. I remember that now.

  24. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Honestly motionview, I doubt Barak and Ann talked about anything —ever.

    I don’t believe she was interested in making the time.

  25. motionview says:

    Maybe I’m over-reading it; I just find it puzzling that he can bend and flex and back-track on just about any other issue for tactical advantage but there just is no give on abortion.

  26. leigh says:

    He was pretty tight with Granny, the typical white person. It would follow that if he were to ask about the circumstances of his birth, it would be with Granny.

    I think it also explains why he seems to have a distain for women, yet surrounds himself with females.

  27. Ernst Schreiber says:

    there just is no give on abortion

    No there isn’t, is there. Party of Death indeed.

  28. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Paul Johnson in Intellectuals noted that it was characteristic of intellectuals of a certain type to hail from matriarchal families, to be “the centre of an admiring female circle.”

  29. geoffb says:

    He is a man of his base and of the new coalition that he seems to be making The Democratic Party consist of.

  30. leigh says:

    He would be accurate in that observation.

  31. Mueller says:

    I think it also explains why he seems to have a distain for women, yet surrounds himself with females.

    Paul Johnson in Intellectuals noted that it was characteristic of intellectuals of a certain type to hail from matriarchal families, to be “the centre of an admiring female circle.”

    Um. Uh………………….Never mind.

  32. geoffb says:

    My sources inside Iran tell me that President Obama, seeking to protect the recovering U.S. economy and bolster his chances of being re-elected in November, apparently has entered into an informal agreement with Iran that he believes will defuse the nuclear weapons crisis and keep Israel from attacking the Islamic regime.

    The agreement calls for the United States to acknowledge that Iran is not pursuing nuclear weapons, and for Iran to hand over its highly enriched uranium, which is necessary for nuclear weaponization.

    Iran, for its part, though engaging Obama, has no intention of abiding by the agreement and is stepping up its nuclear enrichment program clandestinely, even as it prepares for a war it believes it can win.
    […]
    The Iranians have now expanded their nuclear program to the point where they not only have enough low-enriched uranium for six nuclear bombs but also have doubled their stock of highly enriched uranium of 20 percent. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) recently reported that Iran has added 3,000 more centrifuges to the Natanz facility, bringing the total to 9,000, and has started enriching to 20 percent at the previous secret site, the Fordow facility, which is deep within a mountain and secure against any attack. Such production could give Iran weapons-grade uranium for nuclear bombs within weeks.

  33. McGehee says:

    But Soros is a Jew, mv, and he supports both orgs, as well as CAP.

    He’s there so they can say, “Some of our best friends are filthy, moneygrubbing Jews.”

  34. McGehee says:

    he can bend and flex and back-track on just about any other issue for tactical advantage but there just is no give on abortion.

    That’s neither new nor unique to Obama. It was observed to be true of the Democratic Party as an institution during the 1990s.

  35. geoffb says:

    OT:

    Michigan Forecast Update: Romney’s Lead Looks More Tenuous

  36. Pablo says:

    Also because he despises Jews, McGehee.

  37. McGehee says:

    Well, yeah.

    /that bald professor guy with the flamethrower in the Farmers Insurance ad

  38. Ernst Schreiber says:

    Not sure where you were going with that Mueller, but Obama qualifies as an intellectual in Johnson’s book. The guy thinks he can CHANGE THE WORLD through the force of his intellect and the power of his personality.

    It’s only natural then, that he should have groupies.

  39. And Barney Frank was eager to join up until he realized it didn’t say “Israel Fisters.”

  40. Mueller says:

    Earnest. It also describes a tendency to an alternative lifestyle.
    NTTAWWT
    Has anybody ever found any of his old girl friends?

    I haven’t read Johnson’s book, but I’m pretty sure that’s the only place he qualifies as an intellectual.

  41. Ernst Schreiber says:

    That would explain why Michelle takes the kids on so many vacations

    Daddy’s having a “sleepover” again.

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